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12:00
@IͶΔ I somewhat agree with you. I mean surely if the person in question continues with the same behaviour that got them banned on SE.whatever, they'll just end up getting banned on SE.whateverelse as well. Do we really need a process to help that along?
Anonymous
I'm hoping to find some snails this morning before the sun comes up :-)
Will they be in a boat?
Anonymous
I'll make them a small craft of leaf and grass.
@snailboat I usually face life in the morning running trying to catch the school van.
Delightful.
I have to get up at 6am every morning for work, but whether I'm a morning person is debatable.
Anonymous
12:02
Five days till the equinox, sunrise at 7:17.
12:12
Good afternoon, @snailboat!
7:12 here
I mean, sunrise.
Oh, it's still 2 hours to sunrise in your part of the woods.
What?
Oh.
Anonymous
Good morning! :-)
I thought you meant the time.
@snailboat You are in the nature now, looking for snails? Cool.
@CowperKettle or in groceries
12:19
I thought it was too cold for snails yet, +7C.
Although in the day it will be +21C.
But maybe in California they lead an active life through the year.
BBL!
LLL
Anonymous
They're active :-)
Thy Zeppelins
Hmm, do you guys also sometimes feel the music you're listening to is beating slower or faster than before?
When I'm biking, music beats sound slower.
@snailboat Good morning!
Comics seem to be very popular in chat rooms now!
@IͶΔ Sometimes. Then again, most of the time, it's because it's really slower or faster!
@DamkerngT. How so?
@DamkerngT. No, I mean the same piece of music
12:33
@IͶΔ When I'm bicycling, I never listen to music, 'cause it's too dangerous.
Sometimes they do something with the tempo of the music.
@CowperKettle (/¯◡ ‿ ◡)/¯ ~ ┻━┻
@DamkerngT. SAME piece of music
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Q: "Mechanism of toxicity involves..." - why without the definite article?

CowperKettleFrom eMedicine, "Thyroid Hormone Toxicity": Levothyroxine's delayed onset of toxicity is thought to be secondary to the delay in conversion of T4 to T3 and the distribution of T3 into tissues. As a result, symptoms may be delayed, developing anyway from 6 hours to 11 days after ingestion. ......

Hmm...
people get injured due to not noticing a car while bicycling with their headphones on
@Cop I think it's just unusual.
Drug brochure grammerz
12:35
@IͶΔ Yes, I too think it's "technical writing".
Yeah that
Maybe we should have the 'technical writing' tag
Oh, it does exist.
@CowperKettle One monument of an example question.
nods
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A: "on opposite sides of" vs. "on the opposite sides of"

Joao Arruda The two lovers lived on opposite sides of the U.S. Here what we have is vague. It is not clear where they live, we only know that they live far apart from each other, and this is the focus in this sentence, the distance, and not the location. The two lovers lived on the opposite sides of...

I'm not sure in this answer.
I pointed out the guy's minor mishap (Penthouse Principle).
One of the major difference to my eye is that "the opposite sides of" implies only two sides, as using the definite article has a connotation of including every side there is, while "opposite sides of" allows for more than one set of side pairs to exist.
Anonymous
12:48
@IͶΔ No, I usually have a fairly good awareness of how fast a given pulse is.
Anonymous
Rhythm is the single most important part of music, after all :-)
Anonymous
Maybe it's because I spend so much time paying attention to rhythm.
@CowperKettle Only thing I'd change in your comment is to say focus on instead of of in your second corrected sentence.
"be sure of what you want to focus" sounds off to me.
Since the response to that would end up being "I want to focus of [X]"
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Good morning!
@snailboat Have you found some snails?
Anonymous
12:54
I'll keep you posted :-)
@JohnClifford Thanks!
Happy snail-hunting! (0:
Today's the last winter day here, judging by the forecasts.
It was -22 at dawn, but now it's only -4, and tomorrow it will be closer to zero.
@CowperKettle Hey, that's still cold!
(for me :P)
I know. (0:
> The Southern California native Helminthoglypta tudiculata, for example, turns out to be a beautiful snail with a shimmering taupe body and an elegant, walnut-colored shell perched jauntily on its back.
Word of the day:
Taupe (pronunciation: /ˈtoʊp/ TOHP), otherwise known as beige-brown, is a dark tan color in-between brown and gray. The word derives from the French noun taupe meaning "mole". The name originally referred only to the average color of the French mole, but beginning in the 1940s, its usage expanded to encompass a wider range of shades. Taupe is a vague color term which may refer to almost any grayish-brown or brownish-gray, but true taupe is difficult to pinpoint as brown or gray. According to the Dictionary of Color, the first use of "taupe" as a color name in English was in the early 19th century...
The first time I met this word.
Eww... so cute! :P
I've seen the term taupe before but I didn't realise it derived from the French for mole. That's fascinating.
13:08
This Frank dude is plain awesome.
Well they don't call it an early warning system for nothing.
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Q: word for dark smelly fart / farting without noise

masoom nazir sanadiIn our local language (India->Maharashtra->Kolhapur) we have two different words for fart. 1. When a male farts with loud noise (smelly or not smelly) we call this farting 'Padla'. 2. When a male farts without noise and we come to know because of dark smell, we call it 'Thuski'. So what is this ...

Hmm... dark smell.
Maybe from a dark smell comes a darkest hour.
In any case, I have never figured out what darkly in Scanner Darkly means.
@DamkerngT. Scripture reference
"as through a glass darkly"
(I'm not even sure what that Scanner means.)
in a threatening, mysterious, or ominous way.
13:18
Through a Glass Darkly may refer to: Through a glass, darkly (phrase), a Biblical phrase from 1 Corinthians 13:12 == Film == Through a Glass Darkly (film) (Såsom i en spegel), a 1961 film by Ingmar Bergman == Literature == === Fiction === Through a Glass, Darkly (Gaarder novel), a 1993 novel by Jostein Gaarder Through a Glass Darkly (Koen novel), a 1986 novel by Karleen Koen Through a Glass, Darkly, a 2006 novel by Donna Leon Through a Glass, Darkly, a 1950 novel by Helen McCloy Through a Glass Darkly, a 1999 novel by Gilbert Morris Through a Glass Darkly, a 1965 play by Joe de Graft ...
> 1 Corinthians 13:12 contains the phrase βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι' ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι (blepomen gar arti di esoptrou en ainigmati), which is rendered in the KJV as "For now we see through a glass, darkly." This passage has inspired the titles of many works.
> Example English language translations include:

Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror (New International Version)
What we see now is like a dim image in a mirror (Good News Bible)
Trying to apply meaning to song/movie titles in the same way as standard English is often an exercise in futility.
@JohnClifford Very wise word!
See "The Way I Are" for a prime example.
@CowperKettle It seems to make more sense for me with through, but with scanner?
I think the "scanner" in this case is a reference to Bob, likening him to a device for monitoring the populace.
13:21
I finished the movie confusingly, anyway, though.
In other words, Bob is "a scanner darkly" in that he's a monitoring device who operates in mysterious ways.
A-ha! Hmm...
Was it darkly because of his end?
I think it might be because he made his identity unknown using the scramble suit, as well.
Could be a double meaning with that as well, Dam.
Not sure whether to strike the closehammer on this one as the answers given aren't bad at all.
13:30
nods -- Maybe it's a duplicate.
make all of ELU questions appear on ELL first.
@IͶΔ Hehe! I like the idea! :-)
We would migrate them if necessary.
It is possible to implement a cross-posting feature like that?
If you get people to agree, yes.
So no.
13:37
Hahaha
For what it's worth I think it would be a good idea, especially given the number of questions we get which are immediately flagged as off-topic.
Many would.
The problem is the many that wouldn't.
Funnels don't start at the thinnest point and get wider; why should the flow of questions between a beginner's site and one for enthusiasts? :)
Internet funnels do start at the thinnest point and get wider.
Well they shouldn't.
Aw man, one of my answers on ELL is one away from having 50 upvotes. :(
I guess we could implement a kind of test that newcomers on EL&U have to pass before they can post any question. Something like GRE. If they don't pass the test, the test will redirect them to ELL automatically. ;-)
@JohnClifford Cool!
13:43
@JohnClifford They don't give candy for 50 upvotes.
You get a badge at that level, right?
Aw,
No.
Well it's still the highest-voted answer I've had to date, regardless.
You get one for 100.
I think so. Hmm... maybe it's 100 after the graduation.
13:45
It was 100 before the graduation too.
Ha, never noticed I got the Talkative badge.
You had a message starred.
4 hours ago, by John Clifford
And I only remember that because we had a mnemonic for it: "Mrs Edwards Plays Basketball, Please Hold Her Overcoat".
The star board is on the right.
Oh, nice.
The only problem is I'm so addicted to ELL and EL&U now that I spend most of my work day on them.
Oh no, @Dam, something terrible has happened.
13:47
Out of the 6 messages I can see on the star board, only one belongs to @Snail!
BLASPHEMY
I got two stars for my wish of a happy Pi Day too. :D
I can currently see 10 messages on the star board; 2 of them are snail's. :D
Why does the top one have an unfilled star instead of a solid black one?
ᗡ:
13:49
I can see only the first four, actually.
@JohnClifford It's pinned.
Room owners and moderators can pin important messages so that they appear on the top of star board because they're important or something.
In this case, @Dam finds MFI important.
Consider that starred. :D
Yippee
13:51
The great thing about my most recent starred message is that anyone who reads it is going to be like "What the actual hell is that even a mnemonic for?!"
You can see more about a room in each room's info, which is on the top right "room <downarrow>".
Or "For what the actual hell is that even a mnemonic?!" if you're one of those people who think it's bad to end sentences with a preposition.
@JohnClifford I love for my sentences to have ends where prepositions lie at.
Oh, you'll love this. Hang on.
Woo, that answer is up to 51 upvotes now. :D
13:56
Liked!
The only thing that would make it better would be to change "big" in #7 to "sesquipedalian".
BTW @John you haven't told us about yourself.
What would you like to know?
Anything you'd like to share.
well I have to go to a meeting but when I get back I'll tell you everything. :P
14:02
in English Language Learners, Feb 17 '15 at 14:51, by snailboat
It's okay, I put my age on my profile. It's linguistically significant
Anonymous
Ah, but people take issue with putting linguistically significant information in your profile, I've discovered.
Anonymous
Anonymous
A new snail! :-)
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@snailboat Eh?
(Japanese)
Is there a story I'm not aware of?
@snailboat This one looks like he drifts well.
I'm not sure of his traction on the road though.
A Snail Darkly, coming soon to a theater near you.
Anonymous
14:11
@IͶΔ On meta, I was chiming in, trying to encourage people to provide basic information about the language(s) they speak on their profile.
Anonymous
It can be very useful information from time to time.
Anonymous
And people sometimes react rather negatively when you ask them for this information if they haven't chosen to provide it on their own, I've discovered.
Anonymous
Some people really don't want people to know what their L1 language(s) are, and that's okay.
@snailboat Then what happened?
Anonymous
14:12
Though I wish the world were the sort of place where no one would ever feel like they can't provide that information without some kind of negative social consequence.
Oh.
Well.
Anonymous
@IͶΔ Well, other people are rather against this sort of information being shared.
It's sad that damn politics who only makes people we never meet in our life rich has to affect our intercontinental relationships this way.
Anonymous
And would rather it not be on profiles, and instead that we ask whenever it might be relevant.
Anonymous
14:15
So I decided to bow out of the discussion.
Anonymous
Can't win either way.
Anonymous
But! I have a new snail :-)
Yay for the new snail!
Anonymous
Currently eating lettuce.
Is that a natural loading bar?
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Q: What does date and month mean in profile?

Anubhav GoelWhat does date and month mean in profile data? It shows 29 months 10 week 9 days. Although I am less than an year old user.

Wow, it surprises you what stuff can confuse people.
Anonymous
14:18
It does surprise me! I wouldn't have guessed that was what confused them from the question alone.
That's why UX is important!
Anonymous
@IͶΔ The comments that made me decide to leave the discussion are no longer there.
Darn it. The only meta discussion that would've sounded a bit astonishing to ensue, and I missed it.
And I usually check all the newest meta questions 15 times a day.
Anonymous
What I learned, though, is that people with two different conflicting views both get emotional about them, and I want to avoid that conflict.
Anonymous
14:29
So at the moment I'm not going to try to encourage people to provide that information in their profiles.
What's even stranger is that we have both kinds of websites and forums.
Anonymous
It's undeniable that the information is important, though. It's impossible to acquire an L2 without it interacting with your L1.
@snailboat You only learned it back then? Wasn't my always being emotional a clue?
Anonymous
@IͶΔ I meant about this particular topic.
Aha
I should get emotional about this topic too
Anonymous
14:31
People get emotional about all sorts of topics. It's not always avoidable.
Like, it's never avoidable.
Anonymous
But all the same, I'd rather not upset people if I can avoid it.
Meeting is done!
That took less than expected.
So yeah, I'm a 31-year-old guy from Scotland, been married nearly two years to a woman I've been with for nearly six. I'm an enormous nerd and English enthusiast. Love comic books, video games, programming, puzzles and wordplay. My IQ was 128 last time I took a test. I like cheese.
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14:35
@snailboat Yeah, let's talk about snails instead.
@JohnClifford Passport ID?
It's in my other jacket, sorry.
Credit card number would also be nice. :P
(that's actually legitimately true, I keep it in my summer jacket and I took my winter one to work)
You'll have to pry my credit card number from my cold dead hands. :P
Anonymous
Word of the day, self-doxing? :-)
14:36
Thy chat ith thtarry today.
So is your handle snailboat specifically because you collect snails?
Anonymous
I think snails are cute.
Snails are awesome.
Anonymous
And snailboat sounds like sailboat.
They're like slugs with ambition.
14:37
@JohnClifford She keeps them. Collectors are sometimes jerks.
Source: Cartoons
Anonymous
Anonymous
This was my pet snail Bean!
Anonymous
Enjoying a slice of banana.
I used to have a pet snail and a caterpillar when I was younger.
14:37
Solely collectors.
The caterpillar was called Cassie. She escaped her bucket. It was the saddest day.
Anonymous
Oh no!
@JohnClifford :/
I know English isn't the easiest of languages to learn, but do any of the rest of you ever just want to bang your head against a desk repeatedly at some of the questions people ask about the basics?
Anonymous
14:39
Pet snails seem to be popular in the UK lately, particularly giant African land snails. We can't keep any of the giant variety here in the US, though. They're illegal here.
From a few data points, I think people who like snails are good at English. ;-)
Anonymous
@JohnClifford Yeah, I think it depends on how the question is asked. Sometimes questions show a real lack of effort. But a question about the basics can be very good.
The UK attitude appears to be something along the lines of "if you can capture it without it eating you, you can have it as a pet."
@snailboat Yeah, I guess I meant more the ones that are badly worded to the point where you can tell they literally just rolled out of bed and onto the site, question in hand.
Anonymous
Well, two of the snails I've caught did nibble on me a little bit on the way home.
I've seen some lately that may as well have just been WHAT IS AN ADJECTIVE
(in all caps, because caps lock is cruise control for cool)
Anonymous
14:41
Which is a good question, generally speaking, but doesn't really fit the Stack Exchange format too well.
Anonymous
It would be better answered by a textbook.
Which makes it off-topic for us. :)
Anonymous
It's funny, though. Most English speakers think they know what an adjective is, but probably few could give a workable definition.
@JohnClifford That always happens
@snailboat Don't ask me how many parts of speech Thai has. :-)
14:44
@JohnClifford That's way less on ELL.
Or maybe it's too much it's unnoticeable.
I was referring more specifically to EL&U.
You should see some chem homework questions.
They look like friends texting each other in the middle of an exam.
rofl, can you show me an example?
No outstanding examples on the site right now, lemme take a look at my screenshots.
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. I think that dividing words up into lexical classes is more important in the grammar of some languages, less important in the grammar of others.
14:49
At least they said please!
I'm honestly surprised it didn't say PLEASE HELP IMMEDIATELY IF NOT SOONER
@snailboat I think they will come up with a new grammar some day.
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Of Thai?
Anonymous
People are always coming up with new grammars.
Yes. It's currently based on the 8 (or 9) PoS, which isn't quite right, imho.
14:51
Oh. You guys will love this:
Anonymous
I'm sure there are already multiple approaches to Thai grammar.
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Do you remember the grammar I linked to before, the one Shoichi Iwasaki worked on? That one distinguishes 14 classes.
@snailboat nods -- But unlike some other languages, especially English, the grammar used in our curriculum has a very wide effect.
14:52
Hi everyone!
@snailboat I can't remember the name, but I think I remember you linked to it.
Hi, @Student!
Anonymous
A Reference Grammar of Thai
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Oops, I think that greeting got misdirected :-)
Hi, @DamkerngT.
@snailboat Oops! Sorry about that!
What's the subject now? :)
Hmm... unclear. :D
@Student I'm posting screenshots of SE masterpieces I caught.
so, let's make it clear :D
14:55
Also how to make werewolves in some easy steps.
@IͶΔ got you! :)
@John:
@snailboat Ahh... the book writes about Thai prefixes and suffixes, but most of them are either loanwords or something I'm wondering if we should consider them real prefixes. I think we've dabbed into this a bit once, iirc.
It looks like a good book, still.
How was your snailhunt, @snailboat?
@CowperKettle She caught a new black beauty.
14:58
Great!
Anonymous
49 mins ago, by snailboat
user image
Hmm... do we call 'ball' in 'football', 'baseball', and other '-ball's "suffix"?
@snailboat A beautiful black beauty! Is it looking at the camera, I wonder.
@snailboat A black beauty indeed!
It looks like its eyes are directed at the camera.
15:00
Also black is the coolest color ever, even if it's on a snail.
Black is good, because it makes you seem thinner. (0: I wonder if snails get fat though. (0:
Awesome screenshot with one subtle stinging humor:
Speaks volumes about question quality on SO. Also moderation
BTW @Dam when have I taken this:
> it's a fruit that is delicious Zeppelin
Haha!
Okay, there's an expression in Thai for something that's very, very delicious. It's อร่อย-เหาะ [delicious-fly]!
Your tabs are so chemical, Muhammad.
"oxy", "dihy", "bica"
> The English called a pineapple under the GMA strikes similar to the Malay language that was shot and looped the Tamil-called analog appointment is a merchant Tamils look to the Malay pineapple. Called a Tamil or not.
I now really do wonder how accurate that translation is @Dam.
15:07
@IͶΔ That paragraph is probably almost beyond repair.
Let's see...
> ส่วนภาษาใต้เรียกสัปปะรดว่า ย่านัด คล้ายๆกับภาษามาเลย์ที่เรียกว่า นานัด และคล้องกับภาษาทมิฬที่เรียกว่า อนานัด อันนี้คือพ่อค้าชาวทมิฬเขาเอาสับปะรดเจ้ามาทางมลายู เลยเรียกเป็นภาษาทมิฬหรือเปล่าครับ
0.7 mm. Dang
> In Southern Thai (we) call pineapples "yanad" sort of like in Malay which calls it "nanad" and this rhymes with Tamil which calls it "ananad". Here, the thing is Tamil traders imported pineapples from Malayu so we call it like in Tamil, right?
Wow, GM was really close this time.
15:12
:D
@DamkerngT. 'ananad'? Very much like Russian "ananas" (ананас)
I'm still not sure what part The English was translated from.
@CowperKettle I guess so!
But this is used only in Southern Thai.
> The word Ananas is derived from the Guarani name for the pineapple, via Portuguese. In most languages, pineapple is called "ananas".
@CowperKettle And the Persian one.
15:18
Hmm... it seems like the word for pineapple is different in all different regions of Thailand!
You guys are weird.
Why couldn't you live with "ananas"?
So pineapple is just a banana with no bees.
The main four dialects: standard Thai สับปะรด "sab-pa-rod", Northern Thai มะนัด "ma-nad", Southern Thai ยานัด "ya-nad", Isan (Northeastern Thai) บักนัด "bak-nad".
A love dart (also known as a gypsobelum) is a sharp, calcareous or chitinous dart which some hermaphroditic land snails and slugs create. Love darts are made in sexually mature animals only, and are used as part of the sequence of events during courtship, before actual mating takes place. Darts are quite large compared to the size of the animal: in the case of the semi-slug genus Parmarion, the length of a dart can be up to one fifth that of the semi-slug's foot. The process of using love darts in snails is a form of sexual selection. Prior to copulation, each of the two snails (or slugs) attempts...
@JohnClifford I wonder why it has apple in it. :-)
15:21
@CowperKettle Organic spear
@CowperKettle Oh! That's a snail thing!
@DamkerngT. Yes! I never knew it existed.
> Love, though for this you riddle me with darts,
And drag me at your chariot till I die, —
Oh, heavy prince! Oh, panderer of hearts! —
Yet hear me tell how in their throats they lie
Who shout you mighty: thick about my hair,
Day in, day out, your ominous arrows purr,
Who still am free, unto no querulous care
A fool, and in no temple worshiper!
(Millay wrote a poem about this)
(0:
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Q: A phrase about "my brain" and "programming"

Marian07I want to add a text about the programming activity and my brain, over a picture. And would like to know if any of the below phrases are correct. " My brain, while programming. My brain, while I'm programming. How my brain feels during programming. " Thank you four your time and help!

That's enough internet for today.
Thank you four your time!
She has a bronze badge for deleting her own post with a score of -3 or lower. I'm actually jealous of that. XD
@JohnClifford I have that badge too.
15:36
Aww.
I kinda want to post a crap question now so I can get one.
Meh, just wait for when you're suddenly terribly wrong.
It happens to all of us.
That's happened before, I just clean up the evidence quickly enough to not suffer a loss of reputation from it. XD
(that said, I have a couple of answers to recent questions that are more than likely to contain some mistakes, so we'll see)
I actually want to answer this, but if I do so I'll feel compelled to correct the rest of the question as well and I don't want to look like a jerk.
@JohnClifford I wish all the answerers on ELL had that attitude. :(
What, not wanting to look like a jerk or wanting to answer a question? :P
No, wanting to clean up the question along with answering.
15:46
Hmm... the OP examples... It's sort of poetic, don't you think?
Haha, OP keeps trying to incorporate the edits I was trying to make while I'm trying to edit, so mine end up being overwritten.
It looks okay now, so I'll leave it at that.
Anonymous
Poor little thing is ravenous!

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