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@snailboat It's a shrug emote
Anonymous
@Nihilist_Frost Yes, I'm aware :-)
01:18
Good morning, Snails!
"A snowman is..." makes a better start to an entry than "The snowman is..." (because indef generics work great as definitional statements). But "The snowman is..." would not be ungrammatical. It's also true that "Snowmen are widespread in a cold climate" probably works better with a plural generic NP: in cold climates. But the indef generic NP is not ungrammatical. At worst, it is unfortunate. So your remark about the OP's sentence not being ungrammatical, per se is misplaced. Then the third sentence, "there are different methods..." is fine, for the same reason the first one is. — NES 2 hours ago
 
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02:52
@Dan: Is there a word for people who are afraid of not finding a single word for each ordinary fear? — Drew 14 mins ago
Anonymous
03:06
Aphobonymophobics?
Nice!
"Google claims the D-Wave 2X is 100 million times faster than any of today’s machines. As a result, this quantum computer could theoretically complete calculations within seconds to a problem that might take a digital computer 10,000 years to calculate."
03:36
An announcement in a Russian kindergarten: "Dear Parents! Owing to the recent growth of activity of the international terror organization ISIS, we earnestly ask that you latch the wicket gate. Than you for your understanding!"
I don't buy this answer:
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A: "The car had still cost Jake 1500 even after the price was reduced. " -- Why is the sentence consider Past Perfect?

AleAs the diagram shows: It was like a foul play. The seller managed to get the last $1500 and then he lowered the price so that people believed that Jake bought it at a discounted price.

Anonymous
04:25
I rolled back the title edit, but I can't add s proper edit of my own from my phone.
Anonymous
s = a
Anonymous
The question asks "Why does this sentence use the past perfect?"
06:09
@snailboat Fixed!
A curious word: "They seem morphologically complex to us because we speak an analytic language and don't notice how complex our syntax is. It seems bizarre to us to have umpty-ump different forms for every word, with lots of different paradigms and exceptions."
Anonymous
06:22
Thank you!
Ah, you're here. Good evening/afternoon!
Anonymous
Hello! :-)
Anonymous
@CopperKettle Do you know umpteen?
Anonymous
It's related to umpty!
Oh, we do have umpty?! :D
Anonymous
06:26
We sure do!
I can figure out how we've got umpty. Umpteen is a bit more challenging.
Anonymous
I think most people are more likely to say umpteen than umpty.
Anonymous
I like umpty-ump!
I think I'm confused and can't tell what the original sentence by the OP is in the "Bananas grow" question: ell.stackexchange.com/q/75423/3281.
06:53
> a) Carrots are a perfect vegetable to grow in a pot.
b) Carrots grow in a pot.
It'd sound wrong if I used a) to demonstrate that b) is correct too.
Anonymous
I don't see how a) demonstrates anything about b).
(Note that I'm not saying that "Carrots grow in pots" is any better.)
Anonymous
They both just look like sentences to me.
Anonymous
It's difficult to discuss Carrots grow in a pot or Carrots grow in pots without context.
In the parallel to the use of Bananas grow in a tropical climate as opposed to a desert climate to demonstrate that Bananas grow in a tropical climate is good as a standalone, generic sentence.
But right now I'm not sure how I should internalize "a tropical" climate anymore!
Is it a type of climate?
Do we have more than one instance of this type of climate?
And so on.
Anonymous
06:57
Can I go off-topic for a moment?
Yes, sure! :D
Anonymous
Anonymous
@snailboat Very cute!
06:57
Super cute!
Anonymous
She was very playful today :-)
Anonymous
Anonymous
It was too hard to take pictures while she was outside her cage, though. She's very fast!
Oh, that's how she gets water!
Anonymous
Uh-huh! :-)
Anonymous
06:59
She likes cashews.
Does she have to push any button, or just suck it?
@snailboat She is a lady with expensive tastes. (0:
Anonymous
The actual mechanism is kind of complicated, but basically she licks the end and water comes out.
Anonymous
So as long as she keeps doing that, she keeps getting more water :-)
@snailboat Awesome!
07:02
@DamkerngT. "Bananas grow in a tropical climate" seems not to work as a standalone sentence for me. It needs more context compared with "Bananas grow in tropical climates".
Anonymous
In real life, there's pretty much always context.
Imagine that you were given the task of abbreviating Wikipedia's article "Banana" to one sentence. "Bananas grow in a tropical climate" would not work, IMHO, while "in tropical climates" might work.
> ?Pandas can only be found in a zoo nowadays.
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A: I haven't come. I didn't come

Ricky"I didn't come" is something a woman says to a man when he is in a hurry (putting on his shirt, looking at his watch). "I haven't come yet" is something a woman says to a man when she wants him to slow down.

Short and to the point.
07:08
This definition should be included in textbooks.
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Oh, I forgot to ask, what's her name? (Has she gotten one?)
07:32
If you believe it was silly of me to post that answer by Ricky, I'm sorry, and feel free to delete it.
07:45
anyone here?
._.)
 
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@lekonchekon No.
@CopperKettle If you'll call something like that silly, I shouldn't chat in this room.
 
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10:53
ell.stackexchange.com/a/75607/14111 — Good call, @Copper. Save your answering karma for better questions.
11:07
@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. You mean it was wrong?
I thought it failed to reflect all the uses of the tenses.
Oh, maybe "I have been cooking lunch." does not imply I've stopped or paused the activity.
Darned English tenses.
@CopperKettle It's not wrong.
Oops. I thought "good call" meant "good that you deleted it".
I am cooking -'तुम खाना अभी बना रहे हो!'. I have been cooking - तुम खाना कुछ टाइम से बना रहे हो! Said that, 'have been cooking' मे कब से बना रहे हो वो बताना ज़रूरी है! — Maulik V ♦ 39 secs ago
I wish I knew Hindi.
@CopperKettle Yeah I meant that, but not because the answer was wrong. I don't want to see your name as an answerer of an easy question. :)
@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. Thank you! (0:
11:28
Russian Rock:
Well, Russo-Irish, since the tin flute player's name is Brian Finnegan.
Ahh. The best partners you get when trying to find out how much something is used is Google n-gram and COCA. In this case, n-gram was reliably clear on which one is correct usage, but COCA returned 3 and two results for each of them, which is unreliable. — Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. 26 secs ago
I wish all the learners in ELL saw that comment.
I searched and got both "sandwich bun" and "bun sandwich". The one ending with "bun" is basically just a bun, with no filler.
While "bun sandwich" is used but rarely.
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A: Sandwich bun / Bun sandwich?

LawrenceCThe entire thing is a sandwich. The bread specifically is what (not how) is called a bun, and if it's meant for a sandwich, then it's called a sandwhich bun.

Hee I wonder why I wrote 3 but two in my comment,
Thus, if the whole thing is being referred to, it's better call it just "sandwich".
11:47
MAR ... This is infelicitous: The best partners you get when trying to
..
Oh hey @Jim
Good day, sir.
@Dam @Dam @JimR is sighted.
Am I lucky to see you?
I'm on my stupid phone, so I might not ramble on in my usual brilliant manner.
O.o
I can't feel secure about something at the moment ...
She is one of those rare people who try/tries... ?
Who is?
11:52
You are lucky to be in my presence. There is only one narcissist bigger than me: Donald Trump!
It doesn't matter. It's a subject-verb agreement question.
@JimReynolds Try.
Try or tries? She tries or people try?
Ok. I wonder if native speakers commonly use the singular in such cases.
People try, logically.
But sometimes NS's are illogical.
Or is my brain just . . Bzzzt, crackle, spark ....
We are. :-(
So anyway what's up @JimR?
Still two busy to pay attention to us mortals?
12:01
I am kind of blah ... Kind of full from dinner. Kind of tired. Kind of bored. Kind of .... La la laaaaaaa (singing a new song I just wrote.
It's called "Kind of."
I'm singing it to my two dogs and one cat.
You do seem tired.
O.O
Why you .... !
How dare you insult me?
What's up with you?
You are busy ... Studying? Chatting with chemists?
Can you mail me some calcium carbonate? I want to stop drinking milk, I think.
@JimReynolds Writing an answer on chem.
Some weird person wrote an article saying how milk is bad fir our health and that it's disgusting. And now I keep feeling that it is disgusting.
@JimReynolds Even water can be bad for your health if it's over-dosed.
12:08
Ah ... Write away then. You can read my wise and entertaining words later. Perhaps you'll want to print them out and sleep with them under your pillow.
@淖韶晋 hmm..... Who is this with the Chinese name?
Someone new.
@snailboat will give me some kind of response perhaps.
@Dam and @Snail are still regulars.
I DIDN'T AUTHORIZE ANY NEW PERSONS!
There is also the mighty @Stoney and @TCh, so be careful with your hat(s)/(z).
@JimReynolds New persons don't authorize you either.
12:10
(Is my authorization not required?)
Hats?
Now?
Not now, 2.45 days left.
Hats? Is that innernewts-speak?
I'm so out of it.
tchrist, do good talkers say, "She's one of those who eats xxxx?
Singular subject?
well well
She’s one of those folks who eat their oysters with hot sauce.
She's one of those folks who *eats her oysters with hot says.
She the issue?
Ok. Hmm... I wonder why I got hung up on it now.
Reading your examples, I'd agree without a second thought. Maybe even * instead of ?
encourages it.

Our company is part of a corporate group centered in Europe, so we are especially challenged with intercultural differences in communication styles. This situation is very challenging for everyone, Hsin-Yi included, but she is one of the rare people who willingly not only endure the challenges but seek them out, because she knows that the often confusing and painful experiences that are part of extensive intercultural collaboration will pay off over the long-term.
12:20
@JimReynolds No, it doesn't encourage it.
She is one of the rare people who . . . endure/s . . . seek/s . . . . Ok. Now it doesn't bother me anymore.
Ha. Are you trying to be serious, MAR?
@JimReynolds God forbid.
@JimReynolds I suggest you add breath marks.
That (encourages it?) was a piece of test I accidentally included in my copy and paste operation.
text?
12:25
Haha. Yes. It's unwieldy.
@JimReynolds I was trying to indicate it so you'd edit it out.
Yes! Test was a test.
You caught it.
Then subsequent readers will think you are crazy.
These things happen in the best of families.
@淖韶晋 Hello. Where are you from? I'm in Taiwan. I'm not crazy.
Haha
Yeah I don't think so.
Define 'not crazy'.
12:39
Not Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.
Hmm, correct; but not terribly comprehensive.
Back to your infraction.
Hi. @jim
@Jim say hello to @Jim.
@Jim is back, so we want to throw a party.
MAR wrotd
Er, wrote: The best partners you get when trying to find out how much something is used is Google n-gram and COCA.
Note: That sentence was for starters.
12:46
No, I'm teasing. It's perfectly clear, but not exactly how "we'd" say it.
We = non-crazy people.
Oh.
Wait till I transform to @Snail after reading 3 billion tons of linguistics.
Then we'll talk.
Probably "best partners you can get/can have when . . . ."
I might've come up with that. But IIRC I changed the sentence construction in the middle, so it turned out something . . . Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.
Hehe. Fair enough.
Oh. Gotcha.
No you didn't. I'm still free.
12:54
@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. Will we then have a Double Helix?
@StoneyB No, since by then I'll explode into bits.
All this instability happened when you lost your temper, MAR.
I'M NOT ANGRY IT'S JUST THAT I'M FRUSTRATED ABOUT WHY I DIDN'T STUDY A LOT FOR THIS EXAM.
18 mins ago, by Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.
@Jim is back, so we want to throw a party.
No excuse for throwing things.
Maybe you were thinking about girls?
No use crying over spilled milk.
13:02
How old are you now?
Less than a billion years.
Are you trying to make me feel sick? I told you about the milk thing.
More than -1.
Don't expect me to be more precise.
Milk milk milk milk milk milk milk
nutritionfacts.org › Dr. Greger’s Medical Nutrition Blog
Sep 8, 2011 - When a cow is infected, greater than 90% of the somatic cells in her milk are neutrophils, the inflammatory immune cells that form pus.
Ugh. This conversation is not edifying. I'm going to go rip my eyes out. Ta all.
13:06
See you later.
@JimReynolds So you drink infected cows' milk everyday?
If so, there are grosser stuff that you could eat with that nutritional habit.
@StoneyB I'm not the one to be blamed here.
That guy wrote an article saying that, if I remember correctly, most or almost all milk cows are infected.
Well, StoneyB can start an edifying line of conversation if he wants.
There is more to life than cow juice.
@JimReynolds The guy's brain is infected.
You can always ask something on Skeptics.
Hmm.. That sounds interesting. I've never looked at it.
Though they might not like me if I just run in there, believing that it's real.
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Q: Does cows' milk contain blood?

Andrew GrimmSomeone in my Twitter feed said today: TIL starbucks put ground up insects in stuff, and milk has blood in it. The ground up insects part is true for now, but I'm not sure about the blood-in-milk one. It sounds half-way plausible, considering that breastfeeding mothers can sometimes suffe...

13:13
Oh. I see StoneyB's point.
It's disgusting.
Well, the answer is it doesn't.
Thank heaven.
I mean, it does, but it's not how you think it is.
It's like saying I don't drink water since it'll contain magnesium.
I won't chat with you because you contain . . .
blood.
I forgot how to insert links here.
O.O
I can't even find the chat help.
I'm in bad shape.
@JimReynolds .
13:22
Hey, look who's here!
@DamkerngT. Who's here? Worried
Hi Dam!
Hi, @Jim! @Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ., I meant Jim. :D
For la grande fête des chapeaux is he come amongst us during this yuletide season.
Is it the Hats Time now?
13:25
Please do some searching before asking a question. This is the second result of the Google search of "to be blamed or to blame". — Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. 8 secs ago
I've been leaving comments like that all around today.
@DamkerngT. Not quite three days to go.
@DamkerngT. 2 days. 2.
2 days and half.
I don't know if I can participate much, but I feel like Yay!
13:26
And I thought I blew the exam, but I really didn't.
\o/
Yay for that, too!
Even though the result of this one still doesn't matter or count for me.
@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. As with so much in this life, it is not final result of the hat-dash that we cherish but rather the merry chase itself which brings us delight during this the darkest time of the year.
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@tchrist Life is a pursuit of happiness. You should never stop pursuing, and if you reached it, life doesn't have any meaning for you. It's the pursuit that matters, not the happiness. It's the pursuit that determines who we are, much less the kind of happiness we're looking for. Hence we prefer dark times when we're running to reach light way more than times we think we're in the light.
Call no man happy until he passes the end of his life without suffering grief. Call him merely fortunate—so far.
13:36
Some people even like to fall down, since they'll look at the beautiful sky from there, while if they rose to the sky, all they would see would've been dirty soil.
While the better guy ignores the soil and enjoys the spectacular scenery of the mountain.
Happiness is not important, but the pursuit of it is. So pursuit is important. So should we instead pursue pursuit?
@JimReynolds Yes.
Then we are always persuing persuit, never in persuit?
Depends. Some people know how to pursue, so they're in their search for happiness.
Some people don't, and they're trying to figure out how to pursue.
Then if we are pursuing, we are already there?
13:42
Some people don't, get confused and sit down, and get lost in the tidal wave of occurrences.
@JimReynolds We're not.
Very few people realized they just got to happiness the moment they died.
Others, not so much.
I'm happy when I pee my pants, in winter.
It's like a warmth, spreading from my core.
That's illusion.
You'll feel happier if you pee someone else's pants.
Aaand you successfully busted some philosophical moments.
13:45
Some pursuits are destructive:
@tchrist Some people close their eyes and try to act according to what they hear.
Which is just 1/5th as precise.
Analyse the grammar of “His wrath will pursue us till he destroy us.”
I broke.
May Jim analyze thy for thee.
You have your own self broken?
*For thee.
Sure, it's this lever beside my armchair.
13:49
The point is that formally, an until clause could take an untensed verb (or present subjunctive, if you would).
So to speak.
As in the traditional marriage vows that finish with "tell Death do us part".
So until Death parts us in modern-day English.
Fingers on auto-complete.
Yeah, I think I remember J.L.'s post on it.
@tchrist Someone told me the other day they would never let bots do such things to them. ;)
Just get your hands off that lever, young man.
@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. You misunderstand. It is not the computer. It is my fingers.
Oh aha,
and BTW is it just me or does everyone think Skeptics used to have way more questions than 6.1k?
I doubt it.
13:58
They were deleted by the Illuminati.
:o This is an outrage! (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
What is the thing on the right side of your glyph?
A rifle?
14:57
@JimReynolds IIRC it's a ligature of something latin.
\o @lekonchekon.
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Q: Rating negative before commenting?

SubjunctiveOk, so today I got one of my answers rated negative because something was wrong on it. Perhaps, before immediately rating negative a post, a comment should be posted to edit it. (Like a suggestion.) What is the criterion to downvote? If I saw something wrong, I'd post to correct, improve or giv...

LOL that Ale guy was too charmed with the subjunctive mood.
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Q: I win or I won right after the end of a game

cellikTwo kids are playing a game. Right after the game is over one of them shouts happily: "I won! I won!" or should he better say "I win! I win!"

This really makes me wonder.
Why should the little child shout happily "I WIN!" instead of "I WON!"?
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Q: What's the meaning of IXW?

Rodrigo RamosWhat's the meaning of IXW in the sentence: I want to talk about my career path at IXW I read this and don't understand that.

Wow. Does ELL always get questions of this quality?
16:41
I think we're gradually drifting in that direction.
I feel a little strange that I can't find an interesting question on the main page today.
Maybe I've missed something.
Thanks MAR.
For your help.
The question asked by Rodrigo Ramos is interesting so I upvote it.
I am not sure why but I thought he needed help
@kitty Kitty the problem is Rodrigo doesn't need our sympathy or upvotes.
Hi MAR.
Upvotes just mean 'this post is good', as downvotes mean otherwise.
Even if @Dam writes a bad answer, I'll downvote it if I see it.
Thank you. I see your point.
16:50
@kitty Hi kitty!
MAR, I want to say thank you to you so I came here.
Bye.
@kitty Welcome! I didn't do anything considerable.
I think across SE, upvotes mean, roughly, "we want to see more of this (kind of question)".
@DamkerngT. They don't mean it, but the sentence entails it.
Hmm... it's just my opinion, anyway. Questions from users are not one off, so I think it's a good way to give users a signal.
Questions don't have to be difficult, imho, though.
16:58
Yeah.
Then again, questions shouldn't be too easy.
The question doesn't need to be rudimentary or sophisticated. It needs to be thought-provoking.
(as in easy to find the answers on the web, and so forth)
It needs to be a product of the thought of the asker.
I don't think they even have to be thought-provoking, really. Just being realistic should be enough.
17:00
That most of the time means the same thing.
Ideally, realistic, practical, not too easy to find answers everywhere, well-thought-out.
Oh, and I think we are not very fond of SWRs.
Like all of my questions. ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ
17:12
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A: he was a third member vs. he was the third member

TRomanoUntil another member is added to the group, there is no third member; thus "the third member" would be premature. Only once the group contains three members can one refer to "the third member". Compare: I'd like to add a third coat of varnish. One could say "I'd like to add the third coat of va...

This appears to be interesting, but I think it may not apply to the case.
I think the Committee of Public Safety had about a dozen of members, iirc.
How many third members could they have?
I wonder if a third member is perhaps not entirely appropriate. I'm not sure if they listed the members in any order, but then again they might've had.
17:36
In the game I play, there is a character called "Smough". Nobody can agree on how to pronounce it.
smuff, smoff, smo, lol
that's the funny thing about the English <gh>
 
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19:04
I think both are possible in different situations. 1-"be to blame": It's not our fault. John is to blame. 2-"be to be blamed": The project is headed toward a disaster. The marketing department is to be blamed during next week's stakeholder meeting.Brandin Mar 26 at 12:44
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A: To blame or to be blamed

KhanIt's an important question that's confusing to many non-native speaks. I am a non-native speaker, too. As I have learnt, the word "blame" is a transitive verb as well as a noun. You were to blame. You were to be blamed. Both the sentences are different in meaning. In the first sentence "to ...

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A: To blame or to be blamed

MaxW You were to blame. Whatever problem resulted, it was "your" fault. (Whoever "you" is referring to.) You were to be blamed. Whatever problem resulted was considered "your" fault. (Whoever "you" is referring to.) Here one or more persons have decided that the problem was ...

The comment and the two answers share basically the same idea.
Which is different from the explanation in all three reference sources given in an ELU answer (that the two alternatives are equivalent).
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A: Why do we say "be to blame", not "be to be blamed"?

Marius HancuFirst, a bit of terminology: to blame is an active infinitive to be blamed is a passive infinitive Luckily, this issue of "to blame" is known, and was treated by the greatest grammarian of the English language, Otto Jespersen (a Dane:-)) He says: Essentials of English Grammar By Otto Jes...

19:19
It would be "cosmetics for sensitive skin", as in "cosmetics for skin which is sensitive". Saying "cosmetics for sensitive skins" just sounds completely and utterly wrong. — Anthony Grist 3 hours ago
Oh, right!
I'll admit that I overlooked that at first glance.
Anonymous
19:52
Cosmetics for sensitive skins does sound very unlikely to me.
Anonymous
Not ungrammatical, but you'd need a reason to treat skin as count here, and the most common reason, as pointed out in the comments, seems wildly inappropriate.
Anonymous
Still, you can usually construe a non-count noun as count to talk about multiple kinds of whatever it refers to. I feel that's grammatical and possible here, but I imagine it's so infrequent that you might not be able to find any examples of it.
Anonymous
I haven't looked, of course. I'm just saying what my intuition tells me.
Anonymous
So although I might stop short of "completely and utterly wrong", I basically agree with the comment.
19:55
I think it's because "skins" has its own established meaning.
Anonymous
That could definitely be a factor!
BTW, I just posted this comment:
I think I get your point, though I'm not sure if it's the same case in the OP sentence. For example, I think I would use a for Honey, are we ready for a third baby?, too, but I'd feel a little awkward to say something like A third baby of the (just mentioned) family is James. — Damkerng T. 2 mins ago
I'm not sure if my intuition is in the right direction.
3 hours ago, by Damkerng T.
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A: he was a third member vs. he was the third member

TRomanoUntil another member is added to the group, there is no third member; thus "the third member" would be premature. Only once the group contains three members can one refer to "the third member". Compare: I'd like to add a third coat of varnish. One could say "I'd like to add the third coat of va...

Anonymous
I think A third baby of the Smith family is James is pretty unlikely for a couple reasons.
Anonymous
If you're listing unordered members of the set "babies of the Smith family", it's just possible, but
Anonymous
It would be the third you've mentioned, and not the third in birth order, presumably
Anonymous
19:58
I feel like talking about babies of the Smith family would be rare to begin with
Anonymous
And usually if you're talking about the third baby, you're going in order, so we have unique and specific reference
Hehe! I tried to think of the construction in a more familiar context. The original context is a/the third member of the Committee of Public Safety.
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