Language Overflow

Damkerng T.

00:14

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A: Do I need an extra "had" in the following sentence?

There are two actions in the past. The postponement of the dog's burial is earlier than the other action in the past. We don't use an extra had; you will simply use "had to" to make the sentence in the past simple. So the correct sentence is: Since we had postponed my dog's burial, Mom had to fi...

An interesting answer.

> OP1: Since we had postponed my dog's burial, Mom had to find a way to preserve him.

> OP2: Since we had postponed my dog's burial, Mom had had to find a way to preserve him.

> Answer: Since we had postponed my dog's burial, Mom had to find a way to preserve it.

What about these:

> 2a. Since we postponed my dog's burial, Mom had to find a way to preserve him.

> 2b. Since we postponed my dog's burial, Mom had had to find a way to preserve him.

A comment to another answer:

I don't think this is a good answer. Firstly, I don't believe articulate native speakers would consider the had had repetition in the least bit "strange" (it's a natural implication of how the tense works). More importantly, any opinion as to whether the second clause could or should also use use past perfect depends entirely on the "narrative time" (of whatever follows). We thus don't really have enough context to rule on that point. — FumbleFingers 7 hours ago

I guess most writers would settle with either OP1 (which is the same as the top-voted answer) or 2b.

In any case, I'm a little surprised to see +5.

Not that it's particularly bad, it's just that it's not particularly good, imho.

Damkerng T.

01:05

1

A: What kind of structure are the phrases in bold?

Both 243's and Gangnus's answers are correct, enough that I thought I might not have to add anything, or have to provide my own answer. However, after I tried to put myself in the OP's shoes and imagined the confusion that seems to arise from a few causes, I'm thinking that there some angles of s...

A thinking-too-much answer of mine.

(I found it while searching for an old answer that says 'the' in 'the most' is optional.)

0

A: Is this sentence correct?

Pretty close. I think most people would generally say, "What is it that most irritates you?" or "What irritates you the most?" Either way, unless there is reason to be emphatic, the first sentence is wrong.

Weird. Nobody upvoted this answer.

But three upvoted Khan's.

Anonymous

Well, I think both answers are wrong, to an extent.

Anonymous

Naaah, on second thought, that answer you linked is pretty good.

Anonymous

But they could expand on the emphatic thing.

Damkerng T.

Which makes me don't understand our voting.

ELL still has a serious voting problem.

Anonymous

It's one of those things that you wouldn't really understand unless you already know what it's talking about.

Damkerng T.

01:09

@snailboat Agreed.

Anonymous

The first sentence is grammatical.

Damkerng T.

Yes, and that answer didn't say otherwise.

Anonymous

But do doesn't carry any meaning of its own

Damkerng T.

nods

Anonymous

Well, it says it's wrong unless there is reason to be emphatic

Damkerng T.

01:10

Isn't that correct?

Anonymous

I guess? I just think that most people won't be able to tell what that means unless they already know what it's trying to say.

Damkerng T.

nods

Anonymous

You can insert do so that you can stress an auxiliary to emphasize the positive polarity of the sentence, often in contrast to a previous negative utterance.

Damkerng T.

My idea is every sentence that is used in the wrong occasion is wrong, even though it's grammatical.

But that's not what they teach in English classes.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. That's fair, as long as you define "wrong" appropriately.

Damkerng T.

01:14

nods -- I remember vaguely that you mentioned something about "pragmatic".

Anonymous

@CrazyEyes Nah, the first sentence is fine if it's used in the right context. Native speakers would use it, for example, to express contrastive polarity. — snailboat yesterday

Anonymous

@snailboat What is contrastive polarity? A Google search yields nothing but papers and articles about licensing costs. — Crazy Eyes 12 hours ago

Anonymous

@CrazyEyes Ah, my apologies. I should have left a longer comment (or possibly used the more common term "emphatic polarity"). In English, speakers often stress the affirmative or negative polarity of a sentence by stressing an auxiliary verb, and this is often in contrast to a previous utterance of the opposite polarity: "Noon doesn't work for me, either." "Well then, what time does sound good to you?" When there's no auxiliary present, the dummy auxiliary do is inserted for this purpose. This insertion is grammatical, but it only makes sense in certain contexts. — snailboat 18 secs ago

Anonymous

Although I'm pretty sure you can find stuff looking up "contrastive polarity", too.

Anonymous

Our discussion just now reminded me to reply to Crazy Eyes' comment.

Damkerng T.

01:18

nods

To me, a simplified answer saying that "What time does sound good to you?" is wrong is better than saying that "What time does sound good to you?" is correct.

Anonymous

Sure.

Anonymous

That's reasonable.

Damkerng T.

@snailboat On the Semantics of Syntax: Mood and Condition in English

The first book/link Google gave me.

Anonymous

books.google.co.jp/…

Damkerng T.

Hehe! I like the cover of the book!

Anonymous

01:21

See, John Wells uses contrastive polarity.

Anonymous

And John Wells is John Wells.

Anonymous

Still, terminology like that isn't terribly important. Communication is. So it was my fault for using the term and not defining it.

Anonymous

I mean, if you use a common term with an agreed upon definition, you can reasonably expect people to educate themselves.

Anonymous

books.google.co.jp/…

Anonymous

Speakers use that do for other reasons, too.

Damkerng T.

01:26

nods

About the voting thing, I don't know why 5 people upvoted this one:

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A: Do I need an extra "had" in the following sentence?

There are two actions in the past. The postponement of the dog's burial is earlier than the other action in the past. We don't use an extra had; you will simply use "had to" to make the sentence in the past simple. So the correct sentence is: Since we had postponed my dog's burial, Mom had to fi...

Because it looks superficially correct?

Anonymous

I have to admit I haven't been voting on a lot of things because I haven't been reading them very carefully.

Damkerng T.

nods -- I'll admit that sometimes I didn't read the answer thoroughly thorough, too.

But I try to! :-)

Anonymous

That question needs more context.

Anonymous

I mean, we can discuss had versus had had, but perfects are generally licensed by context, and it's not a good idea to discuss them in a vacuum.

Damkerng T.

nods

But the reason was weird.

Probably not weird. I think misleading would be a better word.

> Since this had happened, we did this.

That's the correct sentence.

Anonymous

01:32

Hmm, I don't really agree with Khan's answer.

Anonymous

0

A: Can we use the verb "arrive" with the preposition "to"?

Your article is an example of incorrect usage. Arrive cannot be used with to. Justification: To is a preposition of movement, and arrive does not show movement. You walk to, but do not arrive to. Prepositions that can be used with arrive are at, in, and on.

Anonymous

I don't think this answer makes sense. I downvoted it.

Damkerng T.

Because "the "this had happened" is earlier than the "we did this" in the past.

Anonymous

We don't really know without further context how the events are arranged in time.

Damkerng T.

Ah, I haven't read the "arrive" one.

Anonymous

01:33

languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=7476

Anonymous

Does welcome "show movement"? More than arrive?

Anonymous

You welcome to, but do not arrive to.

Damkerng T.

Interesting. I haven't thought of that.

Anonymous

They came up with the right answer ("You can't use to.") and then tacked on some logic that doesn't work to support it.

Damkerng T.

I think, for the two verbs, I just let their collocations prevail.

Anonymous

01:34

The other answer, which doesn't give any reasoning, is actually better.

Damkerng T.

I think "arrive to" is at least marginal.

(There are two other answers, BTW.)

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Well, it's clearly non-standard.

Anonymous

Oh, there's a third answer? I forgot. Lemme look.

Anonymous

Oh, hey! It's new.

Damkerng T.

Oh, hmm... is to part of the verb?

Anonymous

01:37

It's not.

Anonymous

It's part of the verb phrase.

Damkerng T.

Hehe! Okay!

Anonymous

Well, it's part of to help you get into your car, whatever you want to call that constituent.

Anonymous

A non-finite complement clause, perhaps.

Damkerng T.

nods

Anonymous

01:38

It's the infinitive marker to, which is often considered a subordinator (a marker of subordination) for infinitival clauses.

Damkerng T.

I misread their answer the first time.

Anonymous

I can't upvote that answer because one of my pet peeves is people calling to help a single verb.

Anonymous

Or to V, where V is a verb and to is a separate word.

Anonymous

But it's basically a useful answer.

Damkerng T.

1

Q: How can I replace "more and more" in this sentence?

I'm pretty sure "more and more" is quite informal but I can't think of anything better. ...to warn readers that if you give someone a taste of power, they will want more and more until...

phrase-request

My funny answer: replace it with 'want more and more and more until ...' :P

Anonymous

01:42

Another answer with a contextless non-constituent substring as an example.

Anonymous

By the way, string is a technical term for "N words in a row", which is probably obvious to you as a programmer, but may be less obvious to other folks.

Anonymous

The reason linguists sometimes say string is because phrase is a technical term for a kind of constituent.

Damkerng T.

nods

Anonymous

And string is more general―it refers to a bunch of words in a row, which may or may not be a constituent.

Damkerng T.

"a string of words" should be obvious for everyone, I suppose.

Anonymous

01:43

Yeah.

Anonymous

Right now I'm just talking to you, so I'm not that worried about saying things like the above. :-)

Anonymous

1

Q: What does "our pass the popcorn moment" mean?

Here is from Paul Krugman's blog. So, over the weekend we were told that our pass the popcorn moment — I mean, our long national nightmare — was over: Donald Trump would implode now that he had dared to question John McCain’s heroism. http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/07/23/the-vill...

meaning-in-context

Anonymous

This one's great! +1

Damkerng T.

LOL!

Anonymous

Another great question from Deep.

Anonymous

01:44

Deep is like, my favorite new user.

Damkerng T.

Oh, that "lava" guy!

They hurt me a bit with this comment:

@DamkerngT. "Then 260.2 should apply." Why do you think so? I think the place is not very far(say 100 miles) from their houses but far enough(say 30 miles) for them to be able to evacuate. By the way, are you a native English speaker? — Deep Jul 7 at 11:55

Anonymous

Oh no!

Anonymous

I hadn't read their comments.

Damkerng T.

I think I basically said the same thing as DJ McMayhem's answer.

Way before DJ McMayhem edited their answer.

But their questions are interesting.

Anonymous

Yeah. That's all I was really trying to say.

CopperKettle

01:49

Good morning Snails, Damkerng!

Anonymous

Morning, Copper Kettle! :-)

Damkerng T.

I guess inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M would have some fun answering that question if he wasn't in bed. :-)

CopperKettle

@snailboat - it's hightly US-specific, I don't know the meaning in this context (0:

Damkerng T.

Morning!

CopperKettle

tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PassThePopcorn

Damkerng T.

01:49

(I got a problem with my Caps Lock for a while.)

Anonymous

@CopperKettle Yeah! That popcorn.

Damkerng T.

chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=popcorn&room=24938

CopperKettle

@snailboat - I don't follow the US presidential race, so it's an enygma to me. (0:

Damkerng T.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M even grabbed popcorn sometimes in here! :D

Anonymous

You're just sitting there watching with rapt attention. It's like you're watching a movie, your eyes glued to the big screen :-)

Damkerng T.

01:51

From what I've heard, Trump was fired from NBC.

CopperKettle

@snailboat Oh, I see!

Anonymous

Anyway, I don't know if I can really capture the meaning well enough to write an answer.

Anonymous

But that's my impression, in case it's helpful.

Anonymous

The pass-the-popcorn moment is when it's getting good (entertaining) and you can't look away :-)

Anonymous

Like the good part of a movie.

Damkerng T.

01:52

I'm sure that inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M would say something like, "Oh, another drama! grabs popcorn" :-)

CopperKettle

@snailboat (0:

Anonymous

I might write an answer in a few days if no one else does, but I really bet that someone else who's better with words will be able to write a good one in the meantime :-)

Damkerng T.

Because of the separation, I'm not sure what will happen to Miss Universe this year.

Anonymous

I've never seen one of those.

Anonymous

Pageants.

Damkerng T.

01:54

nods

CopperKettle

@DamkerngT. separation?

Damkerng T.

I guess if it's not going to happen on NBC, it would be some other network.

3 mins ago, by Damkerng T.

From what I've heard, Trump was fired from NBC.

CopperKettle

Ah..

NBC shucked off Trump, still my eyes aren't damp

Damkerng T.

nods -- they didn't fire-fire Trump, but because Trump says "You're fired." so often in his show, people say that Trump was fired on the news and media.

CopperKettle

(practicing the verb shuck)

Damkerng T.

01:59

I was a bit surprised to learn that Trump owns Miss Universe.

(Not sure if it's a company or franchise or something else.)

I think it was around the time Natalie Glebova became famous over here that I learned that Trump owns the franchise.

CopperKettle

I'm afraid I don't have the honor to know either o'them. (0:

Damkerng T.

Ah, she (Natalie Glebova) was (still is?) famous over here because she decided to move here after she won the Miss Universe that year.

CopperKettle

@DamkerngT. Nice! Did she (or "has she"?) become a Thai citizen?

Damkerng T.

A few years later, she got married to the best tennis player of ours at that time (Paradorn Srichaphan).

@CopperKettle I guess so (though I'm not 100% sure), because of the marriage.

CopperKettle

nods

Anonymous

02:04

I usually avoid talking about politics in SE chat, but man, Trump? Really? Still can't believe he'd run for president. And Carly? Seriously? Wasn't it bad enough she ran for Senate?

Anonymous

Politics is depressing.

Anonymous

And also takes singular agreement!

CopperKettle

@snailboat Who's Carly?

Anonymous

Carly Fiorina

Cara Carleton "Carly" Fiorina (née Sneed; September 6, 1954) is an American politician, former business executive, and current chair of the non-profit organization Good360. Starting in 1980, Fiorina rose through the ranks to become an executive at AT&T and its equipment and technology spinoff, Lucent. As chief executive officer of Hewlett-Packard (HP) from 1999 to 2005, she was the first woman to lead one of the top twenty U.S. companies. In 2002, Fiorina undertook the biggest high-tech merger in history with rival computer company Compaq, which made HP the world's largest personal computer...

Damkerng T.

@snailboat I saw a short clip (which I think was the reason for NBC to make such a decision), and I was speechless.

Though I'm not sure about the facts over there.

Anonymous

02:06

> Yale business management scholar Jeffrey Sonnenfeld has labelled Fiorina as “the worst CEO" for “destroying half the wealth of her investors and yet still earn[ing] almost $100 million in total payments for this destructive reign of terror.” [64] He later said about Fiorina being chosen to assist with the McCain presidential campaign: "You couldn't pick a worse, non-imprisoned CEO to be your standard-bearer."[82]

CopperKettle

You should be grateful that you at least have elections. (0:

Damkerng T.

LOL

Politics is everywhere, actually.

Anonymous

After driving companies into the ground and destroying tons of jobs, she used her newfound wealth to try to buy her way into politics. It failed. It's going to fail again.

Damkerng T.

Even in my small village.

Anonymous

I'm sure she could buy her way into politics if she had even more money.

Anonymous

02:06

Politics is like that.

Anonymous

@CopperKettle Oh, yeah. Politics in Russia scare me.

CopperKettle

@snailboat Our town elected a man running against Putin's party as Mayor, to the big displeasure of the authorities.

Anonymous

At least Meg Whitman isn't running for President :-)

Damkerng T.

Actually, Carly reminds me of someone who is running a very big company over here, but I'd better say nothing more about it.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. It's true. And you can't necessarily separate out politics from other stuff.

CopperKettle

02:09

Yevgeny Roizman

Yevgeny Roizman (Russian: Евге́ний Вади́мович Ро́йзман; born 14 September 1962) is a Russian politician, the Mayor of Yekaterinburg after winning the mayoral election in September 2013. He is known as a campaigner against corrupt police, illegal drug sellers and for drug rehab centers. == Early life == The son of a Jewish factory worker, Roizman left home at the age of 14 and started to work at odd jobs, later to be prosecuted for theft. == Criminal record == He was sentenced to a two-year prison term in 1981 on charges of theft and fraud In 1999, Roizman cofounded the project City Without Drugs...

Anonymous

But I'm happier day-to-day when I put my head in the sand and don't think about politics :-)

CopperKettle

@snailboat (0:

Damkerng T.

@snailboat I think that happens to almost everyone who got tired about politics.

Anonymous

Do you all know the "head in the sand" thing? It's a thing that some people mistakenly believe ostriches do.

Anonymous

Fictional ostriches are very smart creatures. Or possibly very dumb. Maybe both?

CopperKettle

02:10

"Six feet two inches tall, weighing well over 200 pounds, American poet Theodore Roethke (1908-63), was a man tormented, frantic for fame, succumbing to depression, suffering from alcoholism." -a nice sentence.

2

Damkerng T.

I'm not sure if ostriches do it, but I think the phrase is from them!

CopperKettle

@snailboat Yes, they actually don't do that. (0:

Anonymous

I'm glad we're all aware of ostrich behavior.

Anonymous

I don't think I've ever seen an ostrich in real life, though. :-(

Damkerng T.

I did!

Anonymous

02:12

Ooh, where?

Damkerng T.

In New Zealand!

CopperKettle

@snailboat Haven't you? We've an ostrich farm at the edge of the city, where they let you feed ostriches. Folks use to take bicycling trips there.

Damkerng T.

They almost pecked my head!

CopperKettle

@DamkerngT. Hehe (0:

Damkerng T.

I think I was paying my attention to the emus, then the ostriches sneaked in behind me. Luckily, I was quick enough. :P

Hmm... I can't remember the name of the place now.

But it was around the area of Rotorua, 'cause it was the same day that I visited Rotorua.

CopperKettle

02:16

Flanders and Swann The Ostrich Song

►

Damkerng T.

(Names in New Zealand are not the easiest things to remember!)

@CopperKettle A song!

CopperKettle

@DamkerngT. I've just found it. (0:

Damkerng T.

Hmm... talking about the ostrich, where did they come from?

Australia?

CopperKettle

Not as good as their "Hippopotamus song"..

@DamkerngT. Probably so.

@DamkerngT. No, it turns out it's Africa.

Damkerng T.

Oh!

CopperKettle

02:22

BBL, was nice chatting to you!

Damkerng T.

See you soon!

I wonder if California Dreamin' is still popular in California.

Anonymous

02:36

@DamkerngT. What's that?

Damkerng T.

LOL -- It's a song.

I just heard it again in a rerun of Forest Gump.

I had an opportunity to listen to it like a thousand times!

Anonymous

Oh, I'm sure I've heard it before. I even recognize the title.

Anonymous

But I can't connect the title to the song in my mind.

Anonymous

(Also, I didn't remember that it was a song!)

Anonymous

I've seen Forrest Gump.

Damkerng T.

02:38

Because in one office I've worked, one of my seniors used to play this song over, and over, and again!

@snailboat Yay! (I think everyone probably knows the movie.)

listening to 'A Whiter Shade of Pale'...

Hmm... interesting lyrics...

(Haven't noticed this before...)

Anonymous

03:30

@DamkerngT. Now that's a good song!

Damkerng T.

04:23

I just noticed something about translation of participles into Thai.

It seems like a lot of people choose to translation Expanded Universe into [universe-expand] (note the missing -ed).

Now, I'm not absolutely sure, but I think they will run into a problem when having to translate Expanding Universe, 'cause it'd also be [universe-expand].

0

A: Is "always be using" grammatically correct?

If I could offer you a piece of unsolicited advice, it would be this: always be using the Oxford comma. it is grammatical. But it sounds like, well, Indian English. If that is your dialect, you might be okay with that. In the US, UK, etc, we would say If I could offer you a piece of uns...

> "If I could offer you a piece of unsolicited advice, it would be this: always be using the Oxford comma."

> it is grammatical.

Hah!

Now, now. What is grammatical? o_O

(or less ambiguous: What does grammatical mean?)

When I say 'Basketball has long fascinated me', am I implying that I am no longer interested in it? — Rescy_ 5 hours ago

An interesting question.

I have long stayed with this group -- am I still staying with the group?

Maybe, maybe not.

Damkerng T.

07:46

3

Q: Diffrence between is gone and has gone

Which sentence is correct and why? Me and I were waiting on bus stand. I reached before my friend to the stop. He came to stop after 10 min and asked me about bus status. How Should I Say "The bus is not yet gone from our stop." current status (Indicates State of Being not gone) or "T...

sentence-construction

Another question that though the question itself is confusing, the answer by a native speaker is better.

(Not in the sense that it's better in the context, because the context is confusing, but it's better in grammar points.)

CopperKettle

08:27

1

Q: past simple or present in that case

I am going on holidays in two days for two weeks, but before going I would like to see my friend: shall I say It would be nice to see you before I leave. It would be nice to see you before I left. I think the second one is better, as it is not a real situation but a wish.

conditional-constructions wish

I wonder how to remake the sentence so that left could be felicitously used.

"If I left early I would be glad to see you beforehand" (?)

"If I left early it would be nice to first see you to say goodbye" (?)

"I wish I left only after seeing you before going" (?)

"It would be nice to see you (beforehand) if I left for a two-week holiday" (?)

Anonymous

@CopperKettle What a great question!

Anonymous

I'm too sleepy to think about it properly (I'm falling asleep right now)

CopperKettle

@snailboat Then you must sleep, sleep is important for the brain. (0:

CopperKettle

08:58

The second one probably sounds better to your ear because it is using the default backshift version, where it is using the past-tense verb "left". — F.E. 3 mins ago

Oops, I migh've been wrong.. (googles 'backshift')

Live and learn:

@CopperKettle Yes, for the matrix clause verb "would" is a past-tense, and that makes backshift available. Usually, the backshift version ("left") would be used here. Though, there's nothing wrong with the first version. Either version is fine. The first version (the non-backshift) might be considered to be slightly marked, and so, would probably be used in a situation where a superior is requesting a junior to be available for a, er, chat before the superior leaves. — F.E. 46 secs ago

I'll need to knuckle down through some chapter on backshifting in a textbook or two.

CopperKettle

10:03

"Where will-o'-the-wisps and glow-worms shine,
In bulrush and in brake;
Where waving mosses shroud the pine,
And the cedar grows, and the poisonous vine

Is spotted like the snake"

(I wonder if we could say: "Is spotted like a snake")

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

But what would be the fun in that?

CopperKettle

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M What is the fun in using the before snake?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@CopperKettle Markdown doesn't work when you use shift thingy to break lines.

CopperKettle

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Many a time I've burnt my fingers (or "burned"? ) on this. (0:

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@CopperKettle Well the snake is imagined to be known; you'd just break the poetic sense if you replace that with a.

CopperKettle

10:06

No, in this particular poem there's no mention of none particular snake

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

That's the point.

CopperKettle

BBL!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I haven't looked at the poem itself; but what the author is trying to imply is that he has known that snake for some considerable amount of time.

Bah, I know you went to ask it on ELL.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

10:45

@Dam I attempt to write a mediocre answer to a question with an accepted answer.

I think it's the first time I'm doing this; it's cuz I'm really enjoying writing this answer.

CopperKettle

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M This is great!

"My only consolation was a picture standing in a (the?) corner of my room."

It seems that we use the despite the fact that each room has 4 corners.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I'm good with a.

CopperKettle

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M a seems too specific to me. the seems the default option like "I found it on the side of the road" (despite the fact that roads have two sides)

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Specific?

CopperKettle

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M yes, specific as versus generic

"in the corner of my room" is about a generic corner

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

10:51

Well, I think it has some special grammar for it; let me find more examples. . .

CopperKettle

generic THE

BBL

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

> A picture of Mona Lisa was the only thing that could be seen in the room.

When you get back @Copper, take a moment and think about my statement above.

It might be specific, but it works.

The picture is known, but it took a.

Interesting; have a talk to isn't non-existent.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

12:52

@Dam I just posted my longest answer ever on ELL.

I just felt really inclined to post it; and I did.

Oh! The OP just changed the accept and accepted mine! Yay!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

13:09

Darn it!

books.google.com/ngrams/…

Covalent is more common than commoner and more common, but stupid spellchecker knows covalent as a spelling mistake.

CopperKettle

13:23

Five signs of laziness:

1.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

2.

3.

4.

5.

We're done!

Now back to laziness!

OMG @snail what int he world in "contrastive polarity"? Don't tell me I have to study MO theory here too!

Oh crud. I meant in the not int he.

Heh!

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