Language Overflow

Damkerng T.

17:00

Probably from Colt?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Yes.

CopperKettle

Nice!

Anonymous

Yeah, that sounds right.

Anonymous

Colt's Manufacturing Company

Colt's Manufacturing Company (CMC, formerly Colt's Patent Firearms Manufacturing Company) is an American firearms manufacturer, founded in 1855 by Samuel Colt. It is the successor corporation to Colt's earlier firearms-making efforts since 1836. Colt is known for the engineering, production, and marketing of firearms, most especially between the 1850s and World War I, when it was a dominating force in its industry and a seminal influence on manufacturing technology. Colt's earliest designs played a major role in the popularization of the revolver and the shift away from earlier single-shot pistols...

Damkerng T.

This is the first time I've ever seen the logo!

Anonymous

17:02

Same!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Oh yummy yummy sloes! My tooth aches now. . .Hey @snail what's a word for the special kind of aching your teeth do when you eat sour fruit like sour cherries or sloes?

@DamkerngT. I've seen the logo in toy guns.

Anonymous

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I have no idea. But caries comes to mind ;-)

CopperKettle

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M sloe is a great word in English, used to describe eyes in literature (0:

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Should I write an ELU or ELL question about it?

CopperKettle

sloe-eyed

Adjective: sloe-eyed (not comparable)

Having dark eyes.
1917, William MacLeod Raine, The Sheriff's Son, ch. 19:
1918, Zane Grey, The U. P. Trail, ch. 35:

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

17:03

@CopperKettle A delicious word.

Anonymous

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M If you like! I'm not sure there's a word for it, though.

CopperKettle

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Do you mean when your tooth enamel comes off from the action of fruit acid?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@snailboat There's a nice word for it in Turkish.

@CopperKettle Less aggressively, but yeah.

CopperKettle

The Russian language has numerous borrowings from Turkish languages

Тюркизмы в русском языке

Тюркизмы в русском языке — слова, заимствованные из тюркских языков в русский, древнерусский и праславянский языки в разные исторические периоды. Через посредство тюркских языков в русский (как и в западноевропейские языки) попали также и слова арабского и персидского происхождения, имеющие поэтому лингвистический статус тюркизмов (например, хозяин или заимствованные из западноевропейских языков диван, киоск, халва). Тюркизмами называются также слова тюркского происхождения независимо от языка-посредника. Основная масса заимствований приходится на период XVI—XVII веков. == Фонетика == Фонетическая…

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Yeah, that Wikipedia link is totally helpful, since I can totally read Russian.

Totally.

CopperKettle

17:11

(0:

Oh, it says that sobaka (a dog) is borrowed from Iran

The Russian word dengi (money) is Turkish

Damkerng T.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Aww... the page has no English version.

CopperKettle

It also says that Russian arbuz (watermelon) is a Turkish word

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Yeah well, yeah!

CopperKettle

Another article says that the Russian word farfor (china) is from Iranian

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Do you call china farfor?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I can't remember anything relevant to this one though.

We call it chin.

Literally.

Pronounciationally.

CopperKettle

17:16

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M The material from which coffee cups are made, not the country of China?

Damkerng T.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Approx. the same here.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@CopperKettle I meant China.

Not the material type.

We call the material type Chinee.

Anonymous

> Ottoman Turkish فغفوری (fağfûrî, “Chinese [porcelain]”), from Persian فغفوری (fağfuri, “Chinese [porcelain]”), from فغفور (fağfur, “emperor of China”) + ـی (-i), from Sogdian βγpwr (βaγpūr)

CopperKettle

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Oh, I see!

@snailboat Thanks!

Anonymous

> From Old Iranian *baga-puθra- (“son of god”).

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

17:18

@snailboat Bingo!

CopperKettle

@snailboat Wow.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@snailboat فغفور would be China, but this word is so archaic, you'll never see anyone using it nowadays.

CopperKettle

And in Russian we have the chess figure called ferz (0: - this must be similar to the Iranian name for the rook

Damkerng T.

Oh, the piece that's called "rook" in English is called "boat" in Thai. Don't ask me why. :-)

CopperKettle

@DamkerngT. Because you have too much water. (0:

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

17:21

@CopperKettle Yeah, basically anything ranging from witty to rook and fast can be synonymized with Ferz.

@DamkerngT. Cuz boats, right?

Damkerng T.

@CopperKettle Quite possible!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Or maybe even snail boats. Squinting

CopperKettle

Oh, I was mistaken. Ferz is Queen.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Hahaha!

CopperKettle

And of course we have samovar which is believed to come from Persia

Samovar

A samovar (Russian: самовар, IPA: [səmɐˈvar]; literally "self-boiler", Persian: Samāvar, Turkish: semaver) is a heated metal container traditionally used to heat and boil water in and around Russia, as well as in other Central, South-Eastern, Eastern European countries, Kashmir and in the Middle-East. Since the heated water is typically used to make tea, many samovars have a ring-shaped attachment (Russian: конфорка) around the chimney to hold and heat a teapot filled with tea concentrate. Though traditionally heated with coal or charcoal, many newer samovars use electricity to heat water in a...

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

17:24

Yes.

I wonder what Thai words are from Persia.

Damkerng T.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I think 'grape' is one.

In Thai, it's approx. pronounced "a'ngun".

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Whee!

It's called Angur in Persian.

Damkerng T.

Close enough!

CopperKettle

Persian زمرد (zomorrod) is emerald. In Russian, izumrud. (0:

@DamkerngT. nice!

Anonymous

Chinese 葡萄 'grapes' (Mandarin pútao) is from Old Iranian. It was borrowed from Middle Chinese into Japanese as budō and Korean as podo.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

17:27

@CopperKettle It's way cooler than zomorrod.

Damkerng T.

@CopperKettle Is it similar in Russian as well?

CopperKettle

I would never have thought that such distant countries would have common lexemes

@DamkerngT. No, it's vinograd in Russian

Damkerng T.

Ahh... vine.

Possible related to wine. :)

CopperKettle

One web article says its from Gothic

Anonymous

Related to wineyard, maybe?

Anonymous

17:29

What is grad?

Damkerng T.

Oh, "sailor" in Thai is from Persian! (kalasi).

CopperKettle

It is said that it's from Gothic "weinagards" - wine + gard (city) - the initial meaning was "a garden"

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@DamkerngT. Huh?

Anonymous

@CopperKettle Hmm, well, gard is where yard comes from.

Damkerng T.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Not close?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

17:30

Sailor is malavan in Persian.

Damkerng T.

Another word is "rose" (kularb).

CopperKettle

@snailboat Yes? Nice! THere's plenty of grads in Russian. Volgograd, Stalingrad. (0:

Gorod is still "a town" in Russian (grad in Old RUssian)

Anonymous

etymonline.com/index.php?term=yard&allowed_in_frame=0

Damkerng T.

@CopperKettle If I heard anything-grad, I'd think of Russian. :)

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@DamkerngT. Well, ancient Persian is highly different from modern (?!) Persian.

CopperKettle

17:32

@DamkerngT. Bangkokgrad! (0:

Damkerng T.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Oh?

Haha!

Anonymous

The OED says:
> [OE. ᴁeard str. masc. fence, dwelling, house, region = OS. gard enclosure, field, dwelling, MDu., Du. gaard garden, OHG. gart circle, ring, ON. garðr garth, (Sw. gård yard, Da. gard yard, farm), Goth. gards house, with corresp. wk. forms OFris. garda garden, OS. gardo, OHG. garto (MHG. garte, G. garten) garden, Goth. garda enclosure, stall. (OE. ᴁeard is the second element of middanᴁeard middenerd, ortᴁeard orchard, wínᴁeard winyard.) The ulterior relations of these words are uncertain. Close affinity of sense is exhibited by the words derived from the Teut. root gerd-: ga…

CopperKettle

Londongrad (disambiguation)

Londongrad is a nickname of London, alluding to high presence of Russians in the United Kingdom Londongrad may also refer to: Londongrad: From Russia with Cash; The Inside Story of the Oligarchs, a 2009 book by Mark Hollingsworth and Stewart Lansley Londongrad: an Artie Cohen Mystery, a 2010 novel by Reggie Nadelson Londongrad. L'ulitma spia the Spanish title of Alan S. Cowell's book The Terminal Spy: A True Story of Espionage, Betrayal and Murder...

@snailboat Yes, Novgorod, a "New City" (0:

Damkerng T.

Oh, I always thought that our word for "foreigner" (farang) was from English, but a source says it's from Persian (farangi).

CopperKettle

Oh, in Russian foreigner is inostranetz = ino (another) + strana (country)

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

17:36

@DamkerngT. It's from Persian, and for God's sake, I remember it this time.

Damkerng T.

ino = another <-- easy to understand :-)

CopperKettle

@DamkerngT. Yes. (0: inoveretz (a person of another faith), inohodetz (a horse with an untypical gait), inorodetz (one born in another country)

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Well, I think we can safely assume that this is Language Overflow now.

Damkerng T.

:-)

CopperKettle

(0:

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

17:37

Like inchoative aspect wasn't enough to blow my mind already.

2

Damkerng T.

LOL

Oh, you have a word for that! (inohodetz)

CopperKettle

Ambling

Ambling is any of several four-beat intermediate horse gaits, all of which are faster than a walk but usually slower than a canter and always slower than a gallop. They are smoother for a rider than either the two-beat Trot or pace and most can be sustained for relatively long periods of time, making them particularly desirable for trail riding and other tasks where a rider must spend long periods of time in the saddle. Historically, horses able to amble were highly desired for riding long distances on poor roads. Once roads improved and carriage travel became popular, their use declined in Europe...

It's ambler in English, apparently

Damkerng T.

Another new word for me! (Yay!)

CopperKettle

When a horse moves two left legs, then two right legs, and so on.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Oh, it haz special words in Persian too, but I'm surprised Russians ride horses.

And don't ask, I don't remember those words now, except one of them.

CopperKettle

17:40

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Yekaterinburg has many horse fans and some horse farms

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I know, I was just kidding.

CopperKettle

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Gallop in Persian is literally Four horseshoes.

CopperKettle

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Nice!

"And the steed it shall be shod
All in silver, housed in azure,
And the mane shall swim the wind;
And the hoofs along the sod
Shall flash onward and keep measure,
Till the shepherds look behind."

Horseshoe is podkova in Russian. pod = under, kovat = to forge

Damkerng T.

@CopperKettle Hehe! I read "steed" as "steep". Apparently, I'm hungry!

CopperKettle

17:47

@DamkerngT. Is "steep" something yummy?

Damkerng T.

We steep stuff in some dishes.

CopperKettle

Ah. (0: "Steep the noodles into boiling water" (0:

Damkerng T.

Yup! I prolly better go steep something. :P

CopperKettle

@DamkerngT. Bon appetit!

Damkerng T.

Thanks! See y'all soon!

CopperKettle

18:15

A bionic eye has been successfully implanted into a patient's retina

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

OMG the teminotorrean era is close.

Anonymous

18:36

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Teminotorrean?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Referencing terminator.

I figured it should've been a instead of o, but meh.

Anonymous

Oh! Terminatorrean? :-)

Anonymous

I might've guessed if the 'r' were there!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Ah the typo.

Damkerng T.

19:27

Right, what oerkelens said. Sometimes -ing forms are verb forms, sometimes they're nouns. Look at their modification, complementation, and inflectional forms to see. — snailboat Jul 7 at 8:45

I think it's the best post in that question.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

OK, I admit it.

I really get disappointed when I see Maulik answered something.

Aside from my Indian allergy, it's more because I don't expect to learn anything from him.

His answers are popular, just that.

To upper-than-elementary learners like me and advanced learners like @Dam, his answers (at least, the ones that I have seen) are barely more than gibberish.

Also, it explains his 332 score for 321 posts in his top tag, which is a ratio close to 1.

While the ratio is about 2 for @Stoney, about 2.9 for me, and 2.5 for @Dam.

Take the TMAPP rule into account and you'll see the person with the peculiarly low score is Maulik.

While it demonstrates the lack of enough votes on ELL, it also gives an impression about the answerer's answer quality.

FWIW, most of the main and not-really-random voters on ELL are either native Englishers, or our monument @Dam.

Anonymous

19:53

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Ooh, how do we play this game?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

You had some 3D-something.

Anonymous

I do!

Anonymous

I can't play it all day, though. Sometimes I've got to play TMAPP.

Anonymous

What's TMAPP?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Self-coined Too Many Answers Per Person rule.

Anonymous

19:55

Oh! Wow.

Anonymous

I've got a lot of answers, though. What if I've got too many?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I've noticed that people with amount of posts higher than an arbitrary threshold usually have less score/post ratio in their top tag.

Anonymous

I have 455 answers.

Anonymous

How do I find out my score/post ratio in my top tag?

Anonymous

I found it!

Anonymous

19:57

> Gave 94 non-wiki answers with a total score of 526.

Anonymous

I win! :-)

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

For example, I'm not familiar with Japanese.SE, but since your number of posts is a lot, I suspect it's more than the threshold I would put there.

Now I notice, your ratio is 526/94 ~ 5.2!

Anonymous

Oh, I was looking at my ELL account.

Anonymous

Let's see on Japanese.SE...

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Oh, then, wow.

Anonymous

19:58

449 and 85 on Japanese.SE

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

449/85.

Anonymous

Yay! I'm a winner!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

And what does that mean? My first impression of <insert person's name>.

Whoa, they're sure a quality poster.

So, that's basically the gist of it.

Anonymous

Or maybe I just wait until I see a question that I think'll end up on Hot Network Questions and answer that.

Anonymous

That way I get lots of score even if my answer isn't very good.

Anonymous

20:00

Mwa, ha ha!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

That's easy to tackle with, I'll check your top posts.

Damkerng T.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M An interesting term!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

If I see one post with 432 votes while the next is 5, I'll see you're a lucky guy.

If I see less than 20-50 answers depending on the site, but each with a 20-something score, I'd conclude they're a rep-wore. *Sorry, the term just exists

Damkerng T.

@snailboat That reminds me of what I mentioned yesterday. I think we can make the question we answer a HNQ easily. It happened to my last answer, which according to the average number of votes on ELL, +10 is way too high.

Jul 18 at 18:12, by Damkerng T.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I mentioned that question 'cause I guess that if you posted your answer and it got an up-vote quickly, it would make it a HNQ.

Anonymous

I do tend to upvote questions that I answer. That's usually because I prefer to answer questions that aren't bad.

Damkerng T.

20:04

Basically, I think it we answer a new question within less than an hour, and it's got an upvote or two, it will have a very good chance to become a HNQ.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Still, if there's 3/5 of the answers I expected for the rep-whore threshold existed, I conclude that I'm not likely to get a reply from that user; since they visit "dilutely".

Anonymous

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M There's an 'h' in that word.

Damkerng T.

I think I turned quite a handful of such answers into popular answers of HNQs.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@snailboat Formatting problem thingy.

Anonymous

Formatting doesn't make the letter 'h' go away.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

20:05

I posted rep-w*ore.

Anonymous

A-ha.

Anonymous

I don't think that makes the word more or less offensive than it already is.

Anonymous

That suffix is in wide use among American youth, by the way.

Anonymous

Of course, many people prefer not to use it, but others use it without thinking anything of it.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Well, I'm sure you know it, that's the standard SE slang for a person who answers for the reps rather than for the sake of helping; with some sauce.

Anonymous

20:06

I don't know a safer synonym for it.

Damkerng T.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I guess such a ratio would become obvious for users who are more familiar with the site.

Anonymous

Sure. The suffix predates SE.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@DamkerngT. You mean?

Damkerng T.

It's like, what the heck, why do these high-rep users keep posting weird answers.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M First, they would feel it. Then, they may or may not look at the stats.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Of course, stat never replaces human interaction.

Damkerng T.

20:08

But it doesn't really matter. What really matters, IMHO, is that in the long run this may decrease the site's creditability.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M nods

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

It's only giving me a first-time impression.

For example, you have a 2.52 ratio on ELL for 100 answers.

I mean posts.

Damkerng T.

nods

Iirc, snailboat has something around 5.

Anonymous

60

A: What's a less offensive substitute for "rep-whores"?

The term rep-farmer is also used. Discussed here http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/126987/what-is-rep-farming

Anonymous

Farmer works for me!

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Ah!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

20:10

If I see you with that for the first time, I concur you deserve an upvote.

Right, farmer.

A good anti-additive substitution may occur.

Anonymous

It wouldn't've occurred to me without reading that answer, but maybe I'll talk about rep farming in the future :-)

Damkerng T.

How 'bout rep-grubber? :P

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Bah, I totally exposed my thoughts now. Darn it! Now you know I'm not that silly @snail. . .I should hang myself.

Damkerng T.

Oh, finally, my latest question got an upvote!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

And who did it. . .

Damkerng T.

20:13

I guess it's very likely that it was from one of you. :D

Anonymous

19

Q: What is rep farming?

I was expecting this to have already been asked, but can't find any clear explanation in the archives. There are a lot of mentions of the phrase "rep farming" in various meta questions, but it seems the people posting are just assuming the readers know what they mean by that. Well I personally do...

Anonymous

And it's in actual use!

Damkerng T.

A-ha! So "rep farming" it is.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Yes, yes, I have seen that a lot in meta.SO.

Damkerng T.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M So, thanks! :D

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

20:13

But it didn't come to my thoughts.

Anonymous

People do use the other word (which I called a suffix earlier, though perhaps I should just consider it a novel use) in relatively innocent ways

Anonymous

creatingmotherhood.com/2012/07/26/kitchen-spices/…

Anonymous

> I’m in the same exact boat. So what I’ve decided to do is gradually replace the old spices. I keep an eye on the sales where I normally shop and load up when I can. It will take a while to replace all the bottles (I never realized how much a spice whore I was until now), but that’s ok. I’m still using some of the old stuff for now, since I’m sure it’s still ok, just not as tasty as it should be.

Anonymous

Haha, some of them have Wikipedia pages for some reason:

Anonymous

→ Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphic_whore

Anonymous

20:18

→ Wiktionary: en.wiktionary.org/wiki/graphics_whore

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Aha.

Damkerng T.

I think the first anything-whor* for me was attention whor*.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Nah, I faced it first in Mice & Men.

Damkerng T.

I'm sure I ran into it after I use YouTube often enough.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Hah!

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Yeah, that one's pretty common, too. You can always use attention seeker...

Damkerng T.

20:19

nods

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

And it was just w*ore; so learning the meaning raised an alarm of being highly vulgar.

Damkerng T.

nods

Another TV series that coined a weird substitution for swearwords is Battlestar Galactica.

Anonymous

If you have problems with formatting, you can always type \* to make sure your asterisk doesn't turn into italics or such

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Those are called wrongswears! :-)

Anonymous

Okay, not really.

Damkerng T.

20:22

Can't recall the word precisely, but I think it was fraking.

Anonymous

Frack

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Oh!

Anonymous

They aren't really called wrongswears.

Damkerng T.

A-ha! Yes, that sounds about right.

Anonymous

But I like that word.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

20:22

@snailboat I did backticks.

Damkerng T.

Test A: *asterisk first, Test B: *asterisk after

Anonymous

The backslash is the proper way to escape an asterisk in normal text. Backticks are okay, too, if you intend to use code formatting.

Damkerng T.

Hmm... it works both ways.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@snailboat Does this have to do with TeX? I dunno if Markdown has anything to do with TeX.

Anonymous

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M It does not.

Damkerng T.

20:26

2

Q: Usage of the expression "My name has been... John Doe"

The former radio host and current Youtuber, John "TotalBiscuit" Bain, often finishes his videos with the phrase My name has been TotalBiscuit, thanks.... I'd never heard this expression before, and it sounds odd to me, as if it could imply that his name changed after the show ended. Is this jus...

phrase-usage present-perfect

A strange has been!

It could mean that the speaker was subconsciously aware that his real name isn't TotalBiscuit.

Anonymous

I don't think it means that.

Anonymous

I think it means the 'program' is now over :-)

Damkerng T.

Oh! But with My name's been ...?

English is strange at times. :D

@snailboat BTW, you look different on ELL main site. :P

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@snail really likes to change her avatar. Argh the Temptation. . .

Anonymous

What are you tempted to do?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

20:30

Change my avatar.

Anonymous

Go for it!

Damkerng T.

Change it, change it, change it, ...!

:D

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

OK I won't cause you said that.

I respect your view.

Damkerng T.

LOL

1

A: Is the phrase "Being born and brought up in India...." correct/

It sounds like you might be looking for a sentence-leading dependent clause. In that case, "having been born and raised" sounds more natural. For example: Having been born and raised in India, I am fluent in Hindi.

Hmm... I know that textbooks encourage students to use perfect participles.

> Having been born and raised in India, I am fluent in Hindi.

But is it really required?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

It's required if you wanna look like cardboard.

Damkerng T.

20:37

Hehe!

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Q: Is Vague the opposite of Vivid?

I can say: I have a vague memory of something. I have a vivid memory of something. So are they opposites?

antonyms opposite-word

A-ha! It indeed went network wide!

I could get +3 not too difficultly, I think, if I chose to piggyback. :D

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

You mean do some farming.

They say village air is good for health.

Damkerng T.

LOL!

Damkerng T.

20:53

Paris Hilton Plane Crash Prank !

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Just saw it!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Who is Paris Hilton?

Damkerng T.

An heiress of the Hilton hotel, I think.

I don't know if there is any line for playing pranks. I hope there is.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I thought she was some monument in Paris.

Damkerng T.

Hehe!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

The French make a lot of monuments outta stuff.

For example, imagine Hagu going viral. (Like it hasn't)

Damkerng T.

20:57

I remember that 5-6 years ago, someone got hurt because a candid camera over here scared people by shouting "Bomb!" on a bus.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Did they hit the ceiling?

Damkerng T.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M There is a cat which looks a lot like Huga on YouTube!

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I think someone fell, and others stomped over. Everyone was trying to get off the bus asap.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Damkerng T.

Oh, no! Poor Jerry!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Like that?

Damkerng T.

21:00

Pretty much, yeah!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I wonder how much Jerry's gonna get beaten up until this thing scrolls off.

Damkerng T.

Minimizing the window helps. :-)

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

K I gotta sleep now. ICU tomorrow @Dam!

Damkerng T.

Sleep tight!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Oh, an @Jim entered. He may entertain our @Dam king.

Damkerng T.

21:06

My name isn't pronounced like that, though.

Anonymous

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M One of my friend's cats "went viral". That is to say, someone took a picture they posted online of their cat without permission and made it into an online meme.

Damkerng T.

But I used to use names like Dennis or Danny sometimes, to make it easier for my colleagues.

@snailboat I feel sorry for that cat!

What's the name of that cat? The cute cat that looks pretty much like Hugu.

Moku, Moko, or something?

Anonymous

Maru?

Damkerng T.

A-ha! Yes! Thanks!

まるです４。-I am Maru 4.-

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Cat in a Box!

Anonymous

Yay!

Damkerng T.

22:35

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Q: Please explain 'confer an equitable right on B to compel fulfilment of the promise'?

Source: p 120, The Law of Contract, 5 ed (2012), by O’Sullivan and Hilliard Promissory estoppel cannot take the place of consideration when a contract is being formed for the first time between the parties, only (as in the Foakes v Beer problem) when existing contractual rights are being ...

meaning-in-context legal

> ‘If a promise by A not to enforce an existing right against B is to confer an equitable right on B to compel fulfilment of the promise, why should B be denied the same protection in similar circumstances if the promise is intended to create in B a new legal right against A?’

It's always fun to read legalese. :D

jimsug

Remember that you can refer questions to Law if they're too legal ;)

Damkerng T.

Hehe! I'll keep that in mind! :D

jimsug

Or a diamond mod can migrate it.

Damkerng T.

23:35

For later: a phenomenon in listening when we may have to listen for more words or even a few more utterances before we can understand the phrase we're listening to.

jimsug

@DamkerngT. garden path sentences?

Garden path sentence

A garden path sentence is a grammatically correct sentence that starts in such a way that a reader's most likely interpretation will be incorrect; the reader is lured into a parse that turns out to be a dead end. Garden path sentences are used in psycholinguistics to illustrate the fact that when human beings read, they process language one word at a time. "Garden path" refers to the saying "to be led down the garden path", meaning to be deceived, tricked, or seduced. As a person reads a garden path sentence, the reader builds up a structure of meaning one word at a time. At some point, it becomes...

I guess it's a subset of the phenomenon you're describing.

Damkerng T.

@jimsug Not really. It's more noticeable in a second language listening task.

jimsug

Fine. I just like garden path sentences :P

Damkerng T.

I like those sentences too!

I was reminded of that idea again because a moment ago I heard "Monsters" but couldn't figure it out until I heard the next utterance.

And "Monsters" is not a very difficult word at all.

I think I couldn't pick up the /m/ sound the first time.

jimsug

Hmm.

Damkerng T.

23:44

The full utterance was "Monsters, get back in your cells."

But there was a brief pause, perhaps a second or two between "Monsters" and "get back in your cells."

I think I was able to figure it out at around "get" or "back".

Maybe the two (this listening phenomenon and the garden path sentence) are related somehow.

They both give us something unexpected at first, and we need more information or more time to figure it out.

jimsug

Ugh.

I have a bad case of jamais vu.

Staring at corpus data :/

Damkerng T.

Semantic satiation strikes again? :P

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Q: What's the difference between "get to here" and "get here"?

I read a sentence "First you'll need the truck to get it to here from wherever you got it". Is it still right if I delete the "to" before "here"? Can anyone tell me the difference between "get to here" and "get here"? Are they all right in grammar? Thanks! Best wishes, Jane

grammar

I still have no good explanation for this one.

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