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Anonymous

04:19

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Anonymous

I got a picture with better lighting :-)

Damkerng T.

05:51

@snailplane Cutie cute!

V.V.

06:11

@snailplane, tiny-tiny!

TIPS

11:58

Hullo @Arau

Also @Man

Man_From_India

@TIPS hello MAR

TIPS

@snailplane Is her/his shell strong yet?

Man_From_India

Hmmm you haven't eaten anything yet today, right?

TIPS

Yup.

Not hungry actually.

Man_From_India

If u think of snal, how will u be? :D

TIPS

12:11

@Man_From_India I don't eat snails.

Not a thing in my country

Man_From_India

Think of hmmm... Big roasted...

@TIPS except hunan, I can eat anything ;)

TIPS

Actually, whatever I think of, pizzas, sandwich, all our traditional food, or whatever, I'll not become hungry.

Man_From_India

(eatable only)

Actually I'm hungry :-) thinking og big roasted meats

TIPS

Well, no, I've become enough of a grown up to tell myself when to get hungry and when not to. :P

Man_From_India

Oh thinking of Man Eaters, where is Jim?

Btw that "Man" doesn't refer me :P

TIPS

12:17

It does.

Maybe you can't hear it.

Man_From_India

@TIPS congratulation. When did that miracle happen? :D

TIPS

Yesterday evening.

What do you expect my answer to be?!

Man_From_India

@TIPS naughTy kid

ADG

which is better "modeled as" or "modeled by"

TIPS

@ADG Both can be used in different contexts I believe.

Also long time no chat.

ADG

12:21

How come you remember me? Do you know me?

TIPS

Yes.

ADG

Oh, from when?

TIPS

I'd rather keep mysterious.

ADG

My sentence is "These systems can be ....(modeled as/by) dynamical systems"

TIPS

So "modeled" means "named"?

ADG

12:24

modeled means simulated by a model or so

TIPS

If you say "A can be X'd by B", you mean that somehow B is going to X "A".

ADG

acc^r to dictionary.com "to simulate (a process, concept, or the operation of a system), commonly with the aid of a computer." which is correct in this case

TIPS

I'm more inclined to go with "modeled as".

ADG

thanks.

TIPS

The context isn't enough, but my guess is perhaps accurate.

ADG

12:27

btw do you "show a method" or "present a method" to someone else?

TIPS

"show" flows better.

ADG

that's all thanks for your help

I was actually writing a research paper

I'm not a native English speaker

TIPS

Research paper language is sometimes different though.

Unnecessary fluff and use of bizarre vocabulary.

@ADG Neither am I.

ADG

Interesting.

Shweta Sekuri

Hi everyone

TIPS

12:40

Hey

Shweta Sekuri

I need your help :-) once again

TIPS

What is it?

Shweta Sekuri

'I'm so tired '. I want this sentence in other way

Using some other words

TIPS

> I'm very exhausted.

Sorry, I was chatting in another chat.

Shweta Sekuri

Hehe

Even I went out

TIPS

12:54

OK, this being tired is something you're informing others with, so as long as you're imaginative, it'd work better than using niche vocabulary.

I'd say something like "I'm so weary I'd sleep while swimming".

Shweta Sekuri

15:10

@TIPS I'm so sorry

@TIPS I was doing some work so didn't saw your reply.. I'll be back later

Damkerng T.

16:34

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A: "Between clock ticks" vs. "in the clock ticks"

A clock tick is an electric pulse or change of state and to understand what your passage is saying, one must understand that a tick (pulse) looks like this events can be triggered on the 0->1 transition or the 1->0 transition. There are also minimal durations necessary for state 1 and state 0...

Wow, that's a pretty bad answer!

Why people who don't know the technical side of things (I mean, in general) would try to answer technical questions on SE?

TIPS

Peter posted something Smokey reported in Charcoal the other day. It was hella weird.

metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/32352

Damkerng T.

BTW, saying "measured in milliseconds" in the context of CPU clocks is pretty much laughable.

TIPS

@DamkerngT. 21k rep, feels like a god, bold enough to guess answers because that works on most ELL questions.

Snail has less rep, right?

Damkerng T.

I'm not sure. Oh, I don't think so.

@snailplane still has higher rep than me (even after a lot of her donations)!

TIPS

I should get to answer some ELL questions.

CowperKettle

16:57

Good evening!

[Evening] khrap!

We're having Thai weather today.

Lots of rain

TIPS

@CowperKettle \o

CowperKettle

TIPS

@CowperKettle Kewl

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle Yay!

CowperKettle

I made a photo from the same crag on Chusovaya River as I had done last year

(0:

Damkerng T.

16:59

I'm having (read "experiencing") the same thing, too!

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. Nice!

Damkerng T.

I guess I'll have to check the wall again soon. :P

CowperKettle

portage (0:

I mean, ford.

I confuse the two words. (0:

"Business lounge" (0:

This is in a train station in Kuzino. (0:

Quite hilarious. The village has 1100 inhabitands, but the train station is rather big.

The business lounge is permanently closed though.

A Soviet-era statue

Of a guy with skis.

Lovingly renovated

Except for the lower part of the skis, that is.

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle LOL -- I missed the skis at first!

CowperKettle

This is a station in Bilimbai, cute as a button.

Damkerng T.

17:06

@CowperKettle Hey, I remember that station! (assuming it's the same one as the one I saw the other day)

TIPS

@Cowp go be a photographer NOW.

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. No, that is another hamlet. (0: They love to make their stations in early XX century style.

Damkerng T.

Ahh

CowperKettle

@TIPS Why? There are billions of them, now with 5-cent cameras everywhere. (0:

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle Get me twenty of them, I'll give you a dollar. :P

CowperKettle

17:08

And this road is what is called in Russian "lesovozka", a wood-hauling road, a road where timber is hauled.

It is basically a mudbath with bits of crushed wood.

You can only carry your bicycle on yourself on such a road.

We passed a huge tractor used for manipulating these wood logs.

Damkerng T.

I can imagine some elephants in that picture. (I know, I know, there wouldn't've been any elephants, but the scene makes me think of typical photos of the same kind of place over here in old books.)

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. With the elephants carrying logs?

Damkerng T.

More like dragging.

But yes.

CowperKettle

Ah, they drag logs.

Damkerng T.

Before they were replaced by tractors and heavy machines.

And before most woods were gone.

CowperKettle

17:12

Most woods are gone in Thailand?

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle A decent portion of it.

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. Here there are lots left yet, but the Chinese are buying timber at an alarming rate in the Far Easter parts they say.

Damkerng T.

We have only 163,000 km^2 area of forest now, according to the official stats.

CowperKettle

We have huge "nature reserves" where you cannot even go as a tourist

Even to go into a village neighboring such an area, you need a special document.

Damkerng T.

nods -- That's great!

Let's not talk about 2016 ...

Pretty alarming, eh?

CowperKettle

17:17

Forests are expected to decrease by 50%?

Damkerng T.

Not sure what they meant by that 50%.

CowperKettle

The omnipresent Lenin statue near the Kuzino station (0:

Damkerng T.

Ahh

CowperKettle

An old local guy walked up to me on seeing me taking the pictures of the statue

He said: "It's a pity he does not point with his arm"

Damkerng T.

Both lines on the sign are Kuzino but in different alphabets, right?

@CowperKettle LOL!

CowperKettle

17:19

He waited a bit, and said: "Lenin should point with his arm to the place where there are good mushrooms in the forest"

Damkerng T.

LOLOTF!

CowperKettle

(0:

I was amazed at such disrespect to the old Lenin. (0:

@DamkerngT. Yes, the upper line is in the Russian alphabet

Damkerng T.

I see. Thanks!

CowperKettle

A mountaneering training ramp near Kourovka

Damkerng T.

Ahh... I was trying to figure what it is!

CowperKettle

17:24

You go there, pay some money and climb around (provided you have the equipment)

Damkerng T.

Wait, the trainees climb inside of it?!

CowperKettle

Yes, it's for training. The crag I took the photos of the river from, it has some metallic rings inserted into it. Mountaneers use it for training too.

Damkerng T.

I mean, I can see lots of climbing thingies on the right-front leg!

Wow! What an angle! It's an inverted slope!

CowperKettle

Yes. (0:

Damkerng T.

TIL, mountaineers are tougher than I thought. :D

CowperKettle

17:28

Some greenery growing half-submerged in a river.

Damkerng T.

Nice wetland!

CowperKettle

> I murmur under moon and stars
In brambly wildernesses;
I linger by my shingly bars;
I loiter round my cresses;

I recalled the bit about "cresses" and took the photo.

I doubt these are "cresses" though. (0:

In the RUssian Wikipedia, there's a possible explanation why Lenin does not point ahead with his arm. Up to 1953, there was Stalin nearby, and Lenin was hugging him. After that, the statue was remade a bit.

And the village dates back to 1703, it is 20 years older than Yekaterinburg.

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Q: Use of "The" in a sentence

Assume in a text we have two vectors v and z. Each vector contains m elements. Which one is correct: 1- " the vector v contains ..." 2- " vector v contains ..."

Is there any context in which it would be possible to include "the" in "the vector V contains"? I doubt it.

Damkerng T.

17:44

Hmm...

CowperKettle

Damkerng T.

When a vector v makes sense in context, I guess.

CowperKettle

Hmm. Could be.

Damkerng T.

books.google.com/books?id=xtMz9VNv-KEC&pg=PA419

The vector p!

CowperKettle

I see "the vector p" there.

Good evening, @V.V.!

Damkerng T.

17:50

@CowperKettle Ah, right! I shouldn't've capitalized it.

V.V.

Evening, lovely pictures.

CowperKettle

Thanks!

Damkerng T.

Hi, @V.V.!

V.V.

Hi, Damkerng!

I liked the question about gerund/participle.

Damkerng T.

I think I saw a recent answer by MIB half an hour ago.

CowperKettle

18:03

Men In Black?

Damkerng T.

:D

I misused his name again!

I meant MFI, Man_From_India!

CowperKettle

Ah!

V.V.

There's no complete answer

Sina

@CowperKettle lucky you. I feel jealous. You have enjoyed lots of beautiful sceneries!

CowperKettle

@Sina Thank you! Sorry for bragging..

You must be engoying a lot of quality time with your pupils. I envy any teacher's skill.

V.V.

18:12

Not is used with participles, it's clear. But both "not" and "no"are used with gerunds. How? Nobody answered.

Sina

@CowperKettle Thank u 4 sharing them:-)

@CowperKettle Yes, most of the time.

Being a teacher is not that difficault. You need to love your job, and be really patient! :-)

CowperKettle

18:35

> IN the first group, consisting of 11 patients, sequencing was done using the Ion Proton system (Thermo Fisher Scientific).
FOR the first group, consisting of 11 patients, sequencing was done using the Ion Proton system (Thermo Fisher Scientific).

I wonder which is best: IN or FOR

I'd use IN

Damkerng T.

Hmm... what to choose, what to choose!

I guess I'd use in as well.

CowperKettle

Thanks! I used "in"... now trying to understand what "read mapping" of genome is. (0:

> and read mapping on the human genome (GRCh37)

They really wanted to say "and mapping of the reads against a reference human genome (GRH37)"

I'm translating a paper that is part Russian, part amateur English

Damkerng T.

18:52

What does this read mapping refer to?

CowperKettle

THey read smal bits of the patient's genome..

..but you need to know WHERE these bits are positioned in the genome

You've got to have a very powerful program and about 20 Tb of drive space

Damkerng T.

> Another development in the year 2004 was the appearance of the term “read mapping”. In the paper “Pash: efficient genome-scale anchoring by positional hashing” by Kalafus et al., hashing of k-mers was used to “anchor” reads.
https://liorpachter.wordpress.com/2015/11/01/what-is-a-read-mapping/

CowperKettle

the program makes scans of the genome and tries to position the bits you've read from the person's blood

Yes, there's a good article in Nature

Damkerng T.

nods

CowperKettle

> One of the challenges presented by the new sequencing technology is the so-called 'read mapping' problem. Sequencing machines made by Illumina of San Diego, Applied Biosystems (ABI) of Carlsbad, California, and Helicos of Cambridge, Massachusetts, produce short sequences of 25–100 base pairs (bp), called 'reads', which are sequence fragments read from a longer DNA molecule present in the sample that is fed into the machine.

Damkerng T.

18:54

@CowperKettle I guess it makes sense in the context.

CowperKettle

"and read mapping on a human genome (GRH37)" might be okay..

I'm not savvy in this jargon.

Damkerng T.

I guess it's similar to the "sequence alignment" I know.

CowperKettle

Sequence alignment

In bioinformatics, a sequence alignment is a way of arranging the sequences of DNA, RNA, or protein to identify regions of similarity that may be a consequence of functional, structural, or evolutionary relationships between the sequences. Aligned sequences of nucleotide or amino acid residues are typically represented as rows within a matrix. Gaps are inserted between the residues so that identical or similar characters are aligned in successive columns. Sequence alignments are also used for non-biological sequences, such as calculating the edit distance cost between strings in a natural language...

nods

> The human reference genome GRCh38 was released on 24 December 2013.[10]

The previous human reference genome (GRCh37) was the nineteenth version. This build contained around 250 gaps, whereas the first version had ~150,000 gaps.[1]

There are human genome releases.

Damkerng T.

Yep! I've heard so. Pretty scary!

IIRC, some folks were able to engineer a viable artificial life form a couple years ago already.

I mean, they coded the whole DNA strain themselves.

Hey, it was way before that!

bbc.com/news/10132762

CowperKettle

I remember that

> Enrichment was performed using the AmpliSeq Exome Kit (Thermo Fisher Scientific), with subsequent preparation of libraries and mapping of the reads against a reference human genome (GRCh37) using Torrent Suite Software 4.2.

I bet it should be a.

> Based on the data collected from NHGRI-funded genome-sequencing groups, the cost to generate a high-quality 'draft' whole human genome sequence in mid-2015 was just above $4,000; by late in 2015, that figure had fallen below $1,500. The cost to generate a whole-exome sequence was generally below $1,000. Commercial prices for whole-genome and whole-exome sequences have often (but not always) been slightly below these numbers.

A revolution has happened in the last 12 months

It's now only $1000 per whole genome (almost)

Damkerng T.

19:21

@CowperKettle nods

Damkerng T.

22:55

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Q: England +do / does

Is England (or any other country) singular or plural? Should I say England don't want to... ?

grammar singular-vs-plural

sad ...

I wanted to ask "What do you mean by England?" but seeing an upvote and the answer had already been accepted, I suddenly felt tired.

TIPS

23:11

@DamkerngT. :(

This is how I feel in SE sometimes as well.

Damkerng T.

@TIPS That's much heavier stuff!

TIPS

@DamkerngT. Sadly, few? some? many? westerners don't think like you.

I mean, look at this monster.

I'd flag him as rude/abusive.

And scared people vote for him, and they're not much to blame.

BTW @Arau The Guardian says Google says hours after the referendum was over, the searches for questions like "What is E.U.?" from Britain dramatically increased.

If only people would vote for what they know . . .

At least half ELL's problems would've been solved, among other things. :P

Damkerng T.

:D

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