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Anonymous
09:03
I haven't been following meta.ELL the last few days.
Anonymous
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Q: How to express something that happens currently, but that might be fixed in the future?

damluarI'm not sure if I wrote my sentence correctly: At the time the thesis is written, one current shortcoming of the proxy tables is that. I want to say, that currently, when I'm writing the thesis, there is a shortcoming which could be fixed later.

Anonymous
I guess Jasper tagged this because of current.
Anonymous
That's not a duplicate word.
Anonymous
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Q: "Whether or not" followed by two alternative words

user114 But more than any specific piece, I love the feeling Gaultier collections (both RTW and HC) convey. They’re always lighthearted, upbeat and joyous. Whether or not one actually likes or dislikes the collection, the infectious joie de vivre of Gaultier work is undeniable. (The New York Times) ...

Anonymous
This isn't really about duplicate words, either.
Anonymous
09:07
I'm just starting at the bottom of the list.
Anonymous
2
Q: "...based on the sub-graphs themselves" grammaticality

niroI tried to join several sentences together, and I ended up with this: To this end, we introduce a method to recognize semantic phenomena of vertices points through sub-graphs available in the Main graph and then geometrically fix such vertices at high precision, based on the sub-graphs ...

Anonymous
This doesn't seem to be about duplicate words.
Anonymous
Hmm.
Anonymous
A-ha!
Anonymous
3
Q: Redundancy in sentences

March HoIn this newspaper article on sentence phrasing in a primary school (Grade 3) science examination, this question came up: WHAT is the difference between a bird and a lion? If your answer is "the bird has feathers but the lion does not", your answer would have been marked as incorrect for ...

Anonymous
09:09
This one's about repeating words.
Anonymous
That's 1 out of 9.
Anonymous
Is it really mostly used that way . . . ?
I don't know. I've never tagged anything with "redundancy", I think.
Anonymous
It looks like it's only recent questions that use it the way the meta OP describes.
Anonymous
I didn't see many because I started by looking at the oldest questions with the tag.
Anonymous
09:13
Now I'm starting from the top and I see more of them.
In a way, I think all question tags could be considered redundant don't you think?
Anonymous
@IͶΔ I finally made a formatting sandbox on Meta.Japanese.SE :-)
Yay
Anonymous
Natural language is full of redundancy.
Anonymous
It's a medium with quite a bit of data loss, you see, and redundancy helps us recover from this loss.
09:22
Maybe I should give Duolingo a try. Some comments at Quora suggest that it may be different from what I think.
I thought it was mainly something like this, with more challenges (like more conversational challenges), and probably with audio.
@DamkerngT. termina
The languages are a lot related, so you can take educated guesses.
nods -- But that kind of question is exactly what I think isn't much about language learning.
(It's a problem/puzzle solving to me.)
I'm a puzzle solver. ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ
Language learning is one of the most neglected things in the world that shouldn't be neglected.
09:27
> the buyer gets 2% discount if he pays within 10 days from invoice date
Why not "from the invoice date"?
Because it's "business"? :P
Computer talk
Yep. (0:
That's why
Business is as business does.
Anonymous
09:30
@DamkerngT. Snailboat used "Cognates"! It was super effective!
@snailboat Oh! -- finding Cognates...
Anonymous
Oh! I haven't seen that website before.
Anonymous
Neat.
Sounds like a good trick for English speakers who want to learn Spanish, French, Italian, or Portuguese, and vice versa.
Anonymous
When I was younger I was learning French and Spanish at the same time, and there were a lot of obvious similarities in vocabulary :-)
09:38
Even I can see some of them!
Hi pal @DamkerngT. sorry for the late reply :-)
Don't worry, pal! :D
How long have you used the new username?
09:42
Ahh... I see.
It looks cool, BTW, but really, it's hard to type. :-)
They're called small capitals.
nods -- I suppose you're a capital skull now. :D
@snailboat Hmm
09:59
Interestingly, you wrote the book in your question, not a book. It's exactly the same use of a/the as in your example sentence. — Damkerng T. 19 secs ago
I think most learners know more than they think they know.
(And some think they know more than they do know.)
@DamkerngT. You're repeating me man!
That's why I think if they feel that we want better questions from them, they would write it.
As definite article rules says the is used before musical instruments,thanks man — Anshul Negi 16 mins ago
Hmm...
@DamkerngT. like me
Hehe! I don't think you're one of them.
Now be honest!
@DamkerngT. All hail thy definithe arthicle ruleth
10:13
@IͶΔ I'm hornet!
Ooh, that would be 24 points in Wordament
Is it an online game?
Yeah, that word play game I sometimes play
They give you two minutes, and a 4x4
You have to find words by swiping in those letters.
Anonymous
What's Wordament?
A bit like Scrabble, perhaps?
Anonymous
10:17
@DamkerngT. Tab completion! Sᴋᴜʟʟᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ Sᴋᴜʟʟᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ Sᴋᴜʟʟᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ ← I tab completed :-)
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. I play guitar!
@snailboat You broke the rule!
Anonymous
@IͶΔ Oh, I don't have any of those Microsoft things.
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Am I going to be punished? :-(
10:18
It's also for iPhone and Android.
I'm not sure. It's not my rule!
@snailboat Yes. No walking on the roof upside down for a month.
@Dam @Snail Wordament UI is like this:
Swasdee
The little numbers are scores for each letter.
(A spelling of "hello" in Thai. :-)
10:27
Though it seems they romanize it as "Sawasdee"
@DamkerngT. \o
So, looking at the top right tiles @Dam, I can make the words "did", "die", "died", "dee" and "dire", for example.
No limit to the twists you can give to your swiping.
It's fun.
And you'll get those points, accordingly?
For "did", I'll get 8.
Oh, does that mean letters have to be connected?
10:29
Longer words have exponentially more points though.
@DamkerngT. Yes.
Six-letter-or-more words have an additional yellow star.
There's also often a special puzzle to solve. Like "Birds" and if you find, "roc", for example, you'll get green stars and more points than usual.
After the two minutes period, you're given 22 seconds to see a list of words you found and didn't find and some general statistics, and then there comes a ranking for each puzzle.
Bonus, if you're logged in via XBOX, there're some extra rankings and stuff. But you can play as a guest too.
The only bad part of it (though I don't call it that bad) @Dam is that since it's these 2 minutes and 45 seconds running all day, you usually end up in the middle of a game, and it has no offline mode.
(2 minutes puzzle, 22 seconds stats, 23 seconds ranking)
@Dam I just got a notification on the site that you're a hornet.
Oh, it's always online?
Yes.
@IͶΔ :-)
10:34
I usually get to be 90 or what. Among some 600-1200 participants in each puzzle.
So it's a 90%.
The world's first are either cheating or they're monsters.
I think it would be fun offline, too.
I mean, how CAN YOU FIND 130 WORDS IN TWO MINUTES FOR GOD'S SAKE?
Hah!
Can I swipe that many times in two minutes, even?
I wonder, I wonder.
Also, if you try guessing and swapping randomly, it will give a nice "YOU'RE GUESSING" warning.
Over all, totally worth giving a shot @Dam @Snail.
Right now the puzzle is "Long word -- find it for 200 points!"
The points are accumulated?
10:38
Yes.
the long word was "Acknowledgement".
The long word is the only puzzle I haven't been able to solve completely at all.
It's a digram now! I love digrams!
Huh, I got a word in my Northern dialect wrong?
I always thought it was รำ (read "ram", meaning delicious), but someone just wrote ลำ (read "lam").
Anonymous
I usually hear bigram rather than digram.
And give me a break, I wasn't paying attention!
Anonymous
10:42
What do you have to do when it says digram?
I may think it's a typo of diagram. :P
It gives you a special block which contains something else, not a letter. Like "AN". Look at the former screenshot's puzzle.
Looks like they're correct about ลำ.
Anonymous
I see, so -ly was an example of that.
It was "AN" up there.
@snailboat Yes.
That dash was meant to indicate that it must end in "ly" and "ly" couldn't be another part of the word.
So "lye" wouldn't be an option.
@DamkerngT. They're correct about what?
10:47
About รำ ("ram") vs. ลำ ("lam") in Northern dialect of Thai.
Oh.
Bangkok is south-ish, no?
No, Bankok is kinda central or middle.
So you're half northern half southern?
Well, I was born in Bangkok. My dad was from the south, my mom is from the north.
Anonymous
@IͶΔ It's at the south end of the big north part! But then there's the south part :-)
10:48
How many local unofficial languages are there in Thailand, qualitatively?
@DamkerngT. You're exactly in the middle of Thailand.
@IͶΔ Not sure, probably a couple dozens. But mainly only just a few.
@IͶΔ Yep!
@DamkerngT. Oh, so it's not a skirmish of languages like Iran.
Thailand's shape always made me thought Bangkok is in the south.
In school, they usually describe the shape of Thailand as an axe. :D
O_O
You guys seem too peaceful for that
They call Iran a cat.
LOL
Oh! Because of the shape?
10:51
Ja
I can see a snail!
That's because of certain influences.
I guess so! :D
How is this an axe?
Think of the south as the handle.
10:54
Note that I'm in my most imaginative . . . huh, that could make sense.
That's very illustrative!
Dammit, you indeed can't liken Thailand to anything.
Anything meaningful at least
It's @Snail's turn to show us a picture of snail that represents Iran's map.
@DamkerngT. Well, that's a bit . . . crude
nods -- rather.
I think this kind of stuff is like cloud watching.
Hey! Let's make it a word of the day!
Word of the Day: nephelococcygia
Anonymous
11:02
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Noice. I just pronounced.
@snailboat Azerbaijan is a bit stretched. :)
@snailboat A nice find!
@Snail what do they say the US looks like?
Anonymous
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LOL -- That's very cute!
11:05
@snailboat That's my face trying to parse math
Anonymous
Mmm, I didn't know the "whale" thingy came from this.
Anonymous
What "whale" thingy?
They sometimes call the US "the whale" here and there.
News
and olds
11:23
J.R. posted some good points under my answer.
Interesting answer, with some good references. That said, I think the "where they will be guarded or taken care of" part of the definition of deliver is vital. If the O.P. is a wanted criminal and there is a safe house in Peshawar, then delivered would be fine. If it's just a ride home from our golf outing, though, I don't think delivered is the best word to use. Similarly, carry works well when citing impersonal facts ("My minivan can carry seven passengers," e.g.), but it seems a bit too impersonal if I'm talking about giving you a lift somewhere. — J.R. ♦ 38 mins ago
@J.R. Me either. I thought to myself before posting this answer, "In what dialect or register would people use 'delivered' this way?" -- I wrote my answer because I thought nobody would answer the question (but I finished typing my answer third). My natural choice would be drive, too. Then again, I believe that this question was taken from a test or an exercise in a book, that's why I focused only on the two verbs. Personally, I agree with all your points. — Damkerng T. 8 mins ago
Now I think it's good that I didn't delete my answer.
You should very rarely delete answers.
None of the other answers take the question the way I did.
You should only delete the answer if it's uneditably incorrect and it's on top.
So if it doesn't fit into that criteria, you shouldn't delete.
Anonymous
11:26
My new snail is eating calcium to finish her shell :-)
Yay! "lam-tae-tae" (ลำแต๊แต๊ -- Northern Thai for very delicious!)
@snailboat What is he eating?
Lettuce?
Anonymous
My new snail is rasping at cuttlebone.
Hmm... is it possible that most American speakers don't know or don't use this sense of deliver?
@snailboat I recommend you refer to him as MNS from now on. :p
Anonymous
11:29
MNS?
@DamkerngT. What sense of deliver?
@snailboat My new snail
Deliver someone (to) somewhere.
Not something you face everyday
Anonymous
I picked the name Ella.
I can give you that.
11:30
@snailboat Ella the Enchanted!
@snailboat English Language Learner Aspiring?
Especially Lucky Lunar Advertisement?
ELL Avatar? :-)
Anonymous
Haha!
Considering that snails seem to be humble, Ella could stand for ELL Abnegator. :D
What is Divergent?!
People are really demanding.
11:54
Hi @DamkerngT.
Hi!
I'm sorry, but I was about to leave.
Feel free to ask everyone else, or just leave questions here. See you later.
Sure.
@DamkerngT. \o
@snailboat Could you help me?
Does sawaste also mean "bye"?
Anonymous
@user62015 What's up?
Hi
I need your help on Active & Passive
Please let me know, which option is the answer?
4. The Principal has granted to him a scholarship.
(A) A scholarship has granted to him by the Principal
(B) He has been granted a scholarship by the Principal
(C) He has granted a scholarship by the Principal
(D) A scholarship was granted to him by the Principal
Sure, I couldn't have helped.
I should ignore people from now on myself.
I don't know your name, so couldn't type to ask for help.
Anonymous
What do you think about the options?
12:15
B
Anonymous
Why do you think B is the right answer?
@user62015 You can type "I" then press tab.
@snailboat Answer shows option D
Out. Playing Wordament
Anonymous
Well, we can rule out A and C because they're ungrammatical.
Anonymous
12:21
So what's the difference between B and D? B has the perfect auxiliary has like the active sentence, and D has to like the active sentence.
Anonymous
I don't see why the book picks D instead of B.
Anonymous
Do they care which constituent is promoted to subject? I don't see any instructions saying what to do.
Anonymous
How about (E) A scholarship has been granted to him by the Principal? :-)
@IͶΔ It could be used in the same manner as "Bye" or "Farewell", but only on a small number of occasions. Most of the time, it would sound odd.
@snailboat I am checking.
Anonymous
12:27
Sorry I wasn't able to help!
I think the book doesn't like B because it wasn't The Principal has granted to him a scholarship.
Make sense?
Anonymous
I don't know what theory of passivization the book is using, so I just have to guess how the sentences are supposed to correspond.
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. But in D, the perfect auxiliary has gone missing!
@DamkerngT. I'm odd
Anonymous
And it's there in B.
Anonymous
12:29
So there's a difference I can't account for in both choices.
@snailboat True!
@IͶΔ That's true, too!
Anonymous
That's why I made up choice E :-)
Anonymous
Ella is a pretty big snail! She's eating a lot, too. She's eaten four big leaves of romaine since I caught her! And she's eating other food, too.
She probably will be your biggest snail. :D
Anonymous
She's still growing.
Anonymous
12:31
She already is! :-)
Oh! :D
Anonymous
Ella likes to climb.
@snailboat How big?
How can I make my Hagu like that, too?
(He likes to eat. :-)
Anonymous
I'll take a picture of her near a coin later.
Anonymous
12:33
I have a picture of Snaily next to a quarter:
Anonymous
Anonymous
But she's a little bigger.
Anonymous
Here's a baby next to a quarter:
Anonymous
^Is it a trick photo? :P
Anonymous
12:36
Can you see the baby? It's tiny!
@snailboat Argh my eyes!
Oh wait, there is somethin there
If you can see the baby snail from two meters away from your screen, chances are, your eyesight would be 20-20. :D
Anonymous
Snail babies start out really small :-)
Anonymous
Not all of them get as big as Snaily.
Anonymous
Ponyo is smaller.
Anonymous
12:39
This is Ponyo:
Anonymous
Anonymous
Ponyo and Ella have been sleeping next to each other :-)
@snailboat Is the other one under the leaf?
Anonymous
No, that picture of Ponyo is older. It's hard for me to get good pictures where they're living right now.
Anonymous
They like it better in the new spot, but the lighting isn't very good.
12:42
Shabby
Anonymous
Ponyo's a little older now, and she's the same size, but her shell is a bit faded.
@snailboat Aww
Anonymous
I can move them and get pictures, but I don't want to disturb them too much. I don't think they really like interacting with humans too much.
Anonymous
But I keep them safe and give them food and water :-)
Anonymous
I could see from Ella's shell she had to stop growing in the wild due to malnutrition. She's doing the rest of her growing now.
12:45
Yay!
How many genders would Snails' language's grammar have?
@snailboat You could try installing some snailcams. ;-)
I remember that they did that in a documentary about meerkats. :D
Anonymous
Snails can't hear, so I suppose it would be a sign language.
1.5 then
It could be a chemical language, which would be even more interesting to MAR!
12:47
YES PLEASE
Like elephants. Or butterflies.
Anonymous
Hamsters communicate above the frequency range that's audible to humans.
Also whales and dogs.
Honorary mention of
Anonymous
They can squawk audibly, but most of the sounds they make, we can't hear.
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Q: What effect does a bat's echolocation have on other bats?

IͶΔ Bat echolocation is a perceptual system where ultrasonic sounds are emitted specifically to produce echoes. By comparing the outgoing pulse with the returning echoes, the brain and auditory nervous system can produce detailed images of the bat's surroundings. This allows bats to detect, locali...

Oh! That's an interesting question!
> "Bat1 calls Bat2. Do you read? Over."
> (Bat2): "I'm confused. Is that my voice or your voice? Over."
12:51
> "Over."
> (Bat-lotsadigits): "That was me. Over."
I'm sleepy in the new year's first day. Does this mean I'll have a decaffeinating year?
Anonymous
Are you some kind of coffee groundhog?
Anonymous
Many people find they sleep better when they give up caffeine, you know.
No, I'm a hexabenzocoronene.
And isn't it 4 a.m. there?
Anonymous
12:53
Shh. It's six :-)
Oh, Vernal Equinox Time was 11:29:36 Bangkok's local time.
> Day Duration = 12 Hours 06 Mins 44 Secs
Previous Day Duration = 12 Hours 05 Mins 58 Secs
Next Day Duration = 12 Hours 07 Mins 30 Secs
Feels sleepier
Anonymous
Merry Equinox!
2
Merry that-thing-I-can't-pronounce-well.
Our day is getting longer...
Anonymous
12:55
Well, the equinox is kind of a fake.
Anonymous
Day and night aren't really equal. False advertising, really :-(
It's not really binary, I suppose.
Now it's day; ah, wait, now it's night!
Anonymous
Like flipping a switch.
Anonymous
Make sure to turn off the sun when you're done with it!
12:58
Haha!
Anonymous
Poor crepuscular animals would hate that.
Nice word!
(Another) Word of the Day: crepuscular
Anonymous
Yay!
Anonymous
Animals of the day: crepuscular animals!
Hehe!
Hey, deer are crepuscular animals, too!
> Pets generally considered crepuscular are dogs, cats, rabbits, and hamsters.
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Q: Diurnal, crepuscular, nocturnal, matutinal, vespertine; what do these mean and how do they impact my pet's life?

James JenkinsA recent answer listed all of these and said the group a pet falls in could impact how they behave: diurnal, crepuscular, nocturnal, matutinal, vespertine. What do all of these mean and how do they impact my pets life and behavior?

Hampsters are nocturnal I am pretty sure. — Critters Jul 14 '14 at 17:07
Anonymous
13:05
Good ol' epenthetic /p/!
Anonymous
The iOS Japanese input method doesn't know enough grammar terminology :-(
Anonymous
Typing 準体助詞 took a while!
Anonymous
I think I've finally managed to teach that word to my phone, though.
@snailboat I didn't know we can do that.

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