Language Overflow

@yubrajsharma Pretty much the same thing with "futurive deontic" to VERB. Learn it for your exams, learn to understand it--but forget it in your own writing. ESL teaching puts far too much emphasis on these marginal constructions which are virtually absent in speech and make your writing stiff and pompous.

Hey -- is anybody having trouble with the links on the left end of the top menu bar? I get no response from the message and event buttons, and the SE link doesn't open a menu --it just sends me to SE.

@yubrajsharma If what you mean is "That's what I was trying to learn", say that. If what you mean is "That's what I was told to learn", say that, not "That's what I was to have learned".

Unless, of course, you're studying that construction in class and have to use it because your teacher thinks it's important.

Man_From_India

Hi @yubrajsharma

Damkerng T.

@StoneyB On the main page of ELL? It works fine on my end.

StoneyB

1:25 PM

@DamkerngT. Very odd. When I click the message or events button, it just links to [current URL]+"#"

Damkerng T.

Hmm... very odd indeed. It sounds like JavaScript doesn't work on your browser.

Maybe you disabled it recently?

StoneyB

But when I navigate over to SE, I get the normal dropdowns.

Damkerng T.

Very strange!

StoneyB

I'm going to try closing my browser and coming back (when in doubt, reboot!).

Damkerng T.

nods

yubraj sharma

1:35 PM

@StoneyB nods ....Ok I understood what you mean! !!

What do you think of thi ell.stackexchange.com/questions/107005/…

CowperKettle

Good evening, @StoneyB!

yubraj sharma

Good evening! !!!

CowperKettle

> Once the WCB and MCB have been approved for use, the PPCB is discarded (can we "discard" a cell bank? The Russian word is "utilized" which means "is gotten rid of in a technically proper way")

yubraj sharma

@Man_From_India could you please share the book? Pdf vertion ?

CowperKettle

♫

yubraj sharma

1:46 PM

@CowperKettle nods

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle I think discarded works, but disposed probably sounds a little better.

CowperKettle

We cannot just throw away a cell bank. There must be a complex procedure..

Jim Reynolds

@DamkerngT. Interesting. I don't think it's very common. A quick glance through Google results for "easy as cake" seems to show it mainly used as a play on words of the expression "easy as pie."

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. Should not it be "disposed of"?

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle Hmm... you're right. I was thinking of disposal actually.

CowperKettle

1:49 PM

Maybe I'll ask on main site

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle You could try my umbrella term when I want to be vague: managed :P

CowperKettle

no

managed sounds odd

Damkerng T.

I wasn't serious. :-)

CowperKettle

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Q: Once the Working Cell Bank has been approved for use, the End-Of-Production Cell Bank is .. discarded?

From a biotechnological document I'm translating from Russian: Once the Working Cell Bank has been approved for use, the End-Of-Production Cell Bank is discarded. Is discarded a proper word, or is there some better expression? Disposed of? The Russian original uses the word "utilized" ...

word-request

Jim Reynolds

@Dam @M.A.R. Then there is this, from the script of *The Year We Make Contact:*

Maxim Brajlovsky: Easy as cake, huh?
Walter Curnow: Pie. Easy as pie.

I'm with Walter!!

Damkerng T.

1:53 PM

LOL

Jim Reynolds

And how could I not be aware of, or have forgotten about he existence of, that film? Have you seen it?

yubraj sharma

@DamkerngT. ??

Jim Reynolds

2010 "The year we make contact" a message

►

Damkerng T.

@JimReynolds Reminds me of those phrases Sandra Bullock cited in a movie and Stallone had to keep correcting her. :)

@yubrajsharma What was ?? for?

> Lenina Huxley: Chief, you can take this job, and you can shovel it.
John Spartan: Take this job... and shovel it.
Lenina Huxley: Yeah?
John Spartan: Close enough.

> imdb.com/title/tt0106697/trivia?item=qt0412445

> Lenina Huxley: He's finally matched his meet. You really licked his ass.
John Spartan: That's *met* his match and kicked... *kicked* his ass...

> imdb.com/title/tt0106697/trivia?item=qt0412446

Jim Reynolds

:D

Damkerng T.

2:02 PM

:D

I remember there were more, but this is all I can find on IMDb.

@JimReynolds Interesting! How could I miss this movie?!

I think I've watched only 2001.

And maybe some fragments of 2010.

The setting in the movie was 2032, and people in the future were a bit, um, funny. Come to think of it, I think it's quite possible, considering where we are now!

> 2005: Hmm... I can't remember which road I used the last time I drove Jane home. It wasn't as dark that night.
2015: Argh! My GPS is broken, how can I get there?!
2035: Argh! My auto-car is broken! How can I get home? My car has no wheel!

Jim Reynolds

:D

Man_From_India

@yubrajsharma I don't have the pdf version of that book. But I will try on Google if I find anything.

Jim Reynolds

torrentfreak.com/steal-show-s02e04-decentralize-things

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. Human-scale AI might be created before 2035

Damkerng T.

2:17 PM

@CowperKettle Okay, 2025, then! :D

Jim Reynolds

2035: Android Jones: Damn this malfunctioning machine!
Android Jones's car: Damn this malfunctioning machine!

Damkerng T.

:D

CowperKettle

> DeepMind is now capable of teaching itself based on information it already possesses.

In a significant step forward for artificial intelligence, Alphabet’s hybrid system — called a Differential Neural Computer (DNC) — uses the existing data storage capacity of conventional computers while pairing it with smart AI and a neural net capable of quickly parsing it.

motherboard.vice.com/read/…

Damkerng T.

Is this one related to Watson?

CowperKettle

dunno

Damkerng T.

2:22 PM

Oh, they're rivals!

The top four: Microsoft Oxford, IBM Watson, Google DeepMind, Baidu Minwa.

CowperKettle

> The results are impressive. After feeding the entire subway network of London, England into one of these DNCs, the computer was able to answer complex questions that required a bit of what we might describe as deductive reasoning.

Damkerng T.

I'm sure computers are better at reasoning than us.

What I'm not sure is their creativity and intuition.

CowperKettle

deepmind.com/blog/differentiable-neural-computers

Damkerng T.

Nice articles!

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. Creativity and intuition have the same electrical messanging basis

Damkerng T.

2:24 PM

:D

CowperKettle

Shakespeare was a neural computer, and he wrote great poetry

So DeepMind can do this too

After some upgrading

Damkerng T.

Assuming that they don't climb the wrong tree.

CowperKettle

Exactly

yubraj sharma

@Man_From_India Please share me that book by downloading

@Man_From_India I'm using mobile data so I've trouble downloading

Damkerng T.

> At the beginning of AI research, Yehoshua Bar-Hillel called this way of thinking the first-step fallacy, and my brother quipped, “it's like claiming that the first monkey that climbed a tree was making progress towards flight to the moon.”

> leidlmair.at/doc/whyheideggerianaifailed.pdf

Man_From_India

2:32 PM

@yubrajsharma i can't guarantee, because I don't know if it's available.

Damkerng T.

(Something from the last decade.)

yubraj sharma

Did you copy my address?

Man_From_India

Let me find it first. I will ping you.

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. I don't understand this comparison

yubraj sharma

@Man_From_India ok

@Man_From_India Please tell me what' ping' means ?

Man_From_India

2:34 PM

I once came across this sentence in Fall of Giants by Ken Follett.

> I wish I had had longer time alone with Katherine.

Just wondering what alone with Katherine functions in this sentence.

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle It was in response to this: "Clearly some specific assumptions must have been mistaken, but all we find in Dennett’s assessment is the implicit assumption that human intelligence is on a continuum with insect intelligence, and that therefore adding a bit of complexity to what has already been done with animats countsas progress toward humanoid intelligence."

Man_From_India

Is it an adjunct or a complement?

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. I see nothing wrong in this assumption..

Insects have hundreds of thousands of neurons

Humans have hundreds of billions

yubraj sharma

@Man_From_India What i asked ? Ping means ?

Man_From_India

If it's an adjunct, I think it's act-related adjunct. But then again if we place this adjunct at the beginning of the sentence, it doesn't make much sense.

What does this adjunct modify?

Damkerng T.

2:37 PM

@CowperKettle Some people think if we just put enough computing power (i.e., number of nodes) into a neural network, some kind of intelligence at the level of human beings will automatically emerge. Some people think otherwise.

Man_From_India

If it's a complement, what word governs it?

yubraj sharma

@Man_From_India you said you'll ping me so i asked

Man_From_India

@yubrajsharma did you check the meaning of it in any dictionary?

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. Of course it will not emerge by itself. It will take some designing and stuff.

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle nods -- that's why maybe it's not just a continuum.

Man_From_India

2:39 PM

I think you already said earlier today that you know the meaning of ping.

yubraj sharma

@Man_From_India No

Man_From_India

@yubrajsharma please check it first.

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. AI has been in existence for a portion of a millisecond, if we compare it with the time the natural intelligence has been developing. And it already wins against humans in Go

Give it a whole millisecond

Damkerng T.

If we think along their idea, a calculator has beaten us at multiplication for so long.

CowperKettle

Yes.

ANd the car has beaten us in transportation speed

Damkerng T.

2:41 PM

Indeed!

But we never think of them as a form of anything intelligent.

CowperKettle

And the AI will beat us in poetry composition.

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle Could be, though I wonder if it can beat us at prose.

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. Because we're human chauvinists. We think that "intelligence" is something coming from a conglomerate of cells.

It is just computation.

Damkerng T.

Only time will tell.

But I think Turing was right. It's intelligent, but differently.

CowperKettle

AI is so profitable already that I doubt that even a real war against it will stop it.

Damkerng T.

2:45 PM

To stop an AI in the future, I think the only possible way is by using another AI.

CowperKettle

Basically, computer-based AI acts as part of the "cortex" and humans act as "subcortical regions" that feed the cortex with information.

Damkerng T.

But works at a speed a thousand or million times faster.

CowperKettle

nods

I mean, AI will not wipe humans, rather humans will become employed as part of AI-inclusive systems

Damkerng T.

I doubt if I really want to live in that world, though.

CowperKettle

Me too.

Damkerng T.

2:49 PM

trying to put letters into words and words into sentences calmly, and not to think much about the next decade or two... :-)

Man_From_India

Oh my bad! I found the answer myself. In that sentence alone with Katherine is the second complement of the verb had. It's a subject-oriented complement.

Damkerng T.

Have something (alone or together) with someone should work more or less the same way.

Hmm... I think it's quite flexible. The verb doesn't have to be have.

Man_From_India

@DamkerngT. right

Damkerng T.

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Q: "It'll be a very long time before someone inspires us the way Harvey did" meaning?

I was reading the script of "The Dark Knight Rises" where I encounter with a sentence "It will be a very long time before someone inspires the way Harvey did" I spent some time with this sentence and arrived at the following conclusion,which is according to me. I broke this sentence into pi...

sentence-meaning

Hmm... why the downvote?

yubraj sharma

@Man_From_India I checked its meaning. Ping is an informal word for sending an email or text message

CowperKettle

3:01 PM

> The list of tests performed to assess cell bank quality is provided in Table 12.
_A_ list of tests performed to assess cell bank quality is provided in Table 12. (which is more proper?)

Damkerng T.

This is me pinging you. @yubrajsharma :-)

yubraj sharma

@DamkerngT. Do other see our message if pinged ?

Damkerng T.

I guess The probably works a little better. I assume that it's something official.

@yubrajsharma Yes. Everything in this chat is public.

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. So I thought. Thanks!

Damkerng T.

No problem! :D

CowperKettle

3:04 PM

This chat record will exist for maybe hundreds of years. So that future intelligent entities could learn how time was wasted in the year 2016.

yubraj sharma

@Man_From_India oh!! Then why to ping someone?

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle So that an AI in the future may scratch its head trying to understand us. :P

CowperKettle

@DamkerngT. scratch their memristors

Damkerng T.

@CowperKettle LOL

CowperKettle

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Damkerng T.

3:05 PM

@yubrajsharma There are two main uses: a) to reply to a specific message; b) to get their attention.

yubraj sharma

Nods

Let's change the topic! !!

"Use of out there"-
1. Someone is out there to help me to learn about English Grammar.
2. Is there someone out there to love you ? Or Is there someone in your life to love you ?
Which one is correct and better to use ? If both wrong how can I write in correct way ?

Man_From_India

@DamkerngT. it doesn't look like off topic question. It's a good ELL question.

Damkerng T.

@Man_From_India I think so. I don't know why someone cast a downvote.

yubraj sharma

My question?

Damkerng T.

Where did you find these "out there"?

Man_From_India

3:11 PM

This random down voting is very irritating. The down voter should say something about why they feel it's down vote worthy. And to add, how to improve it.

yubraj sharma

@DamkerngT. I created this on my own/myself

Damkerng T.

Is there anything that somehow makes you interested in "out there" out of the blue?

@Man_From_India I wish people commented more often!

M.A.R.

imgur.com/gallery/uGdgj

@DamkerngT. I wish I commented more often.

@Man_From_India Usually the guy that downvotes and doesn't provide a reason is NOT the guy you want to provide a reason.

yubraj sharma

Was that good use of "out there"?

M.A.R.

@yubrajsharma The first is passable. The second doesn't work.

I like 'Is there someone out there THAT loves you' better

Man_From_India

3:14 PM

@M.A.R. :( you are right.

M.A.R.

@Man_From_India No, I'm MAR.

yubraj sharma

@M.A.R. passable means "good"?

Second is wrong?

Man_From_India

@yubrajsharma you are dealing with two uses of there.

M.A.R.

@yubrajsharma Means not not okay.

Man_From_India

One is pronoun, one is preposition.

yubraj sharma

3:17 PM

@Man_From_India Yes that's what I want to learn

I think I need to ask this question in ELL

Man_From_India

@yubrajsharma what did you do to learn it, other than posting a question here?

@yubrajsharma you already asked, right?

yubraj sharma

@Man_From_India yes I asked !!! Nods...

@Man_From_India I have learned the answers of my questions

Man_From_India

Please add some information as to what you learned in search of its answer. Add it to the original question.

yubraj sharma

I have also answered some questions

I've learned many grammatical rules

Man_From_India

@yubrajsharma good, but how would you apply it on your question about out there?

yubraj sharma

3:23 PM

@Man_From_India This site has been a good teacher of mine

M.A.R.

@yubrajsharma Snailboat is my best language teacher as of today

CowperKettle

Snailplane

M.A.R.

@CowperKettle I haven't had the opportunity to learn as much from Snailplane yet.

CowperKettle

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yubraj sharma

I've asked many questions "out there" in this website

CowperKettle

3:25 PM

@M.A.R. But Rubisco had. Ask him, he will attest to Snailplane's great qualities as teacher.

yubraj sharma

Is it correct?

M.A.R.

imgur.com/gallery/BNoUoeI

yubraj sharma

@Man_From_India ?

Man_From_India

No that is not correct

yubraj sharma

@Man_From_India please wait I'm trying

@Man_From_India" ELL is great website, I've learned a lot about grammar out there"

@Man_From_India Was that correct?

Man_From_India

3:30 PM

@yubrajsharma correct sentence.

yubraj sharma

But how to use two "out there" in a sentence?

@Man_From_India?

@DamkerngT. Please talk

Man_From_India

@yubrajsharma i can't come up with any sentence right now :(

You better try yourself.

yubraj sharma

Why ?

Ha ha ha .....

I wonder what happened! !!!!

Man_From_India

Yubraj, please don't ping people so many times unnecessarily. You see, people are busy. They will reply you for sure, as soon as they come here. Please be patient.

yubraj sharma

Sorry I didn't know that !!!!

Man_From_India

3:39 PM

Hey, it's fine :-) cool.

yubraj sharma

Okay thanks for informing me about that !

CowperKettle

> Where I would walk in spirit, and behold
Our elements resolved to things untold,
And fathom hidden wonders, and explore
The essence of great bosoms now no more.

yubraj sharma

Looks like a poem

@Man_From_India I will be looking forward to you about the book,it would be kind of you to help me !!!!!

Man_From_India

@yubrajsharma :( tough job. Ok. Maybe on weekend, I will give it a try. Just remind me about that, in case I forget.

yubraj sharma

@Man_From_India Oh !!!! So long time !!!

Man_From_India

3:48 PM

~~so long time~~ so long a time

yubraj sharma

So long a time !!!

@Man_From_India Are you busy too much ?

Man_From_India

Yubraj, I'm on my cell phone. Here is a link. There are many other books as well. You might try this link. I didn't try to download it myself though.

drive.google.com/…

@yubrajsharma not busy, but it's time to relax. To recharge the tired parts :P

yubraj sharma

Ummm....Do you always use phone for stackoverflow ? About me, I use mobile

Man_From_India

@yubrajsharma mostly, except for writing question/answers.

Oh I'm not on SO.

yubraj sharma

@Man_From_India you are also a proggrammer ?

Man_From_India

3:58 PM

No but I can do a bit :-)

yubraj sharma

Okay! !!!!

Can i download the book for free out there?

Man_From_India

It looks like you can. Just give it a try.

yubraj sharma

I would try if I were on wifi !!!!

@Man_From_India Nods

Let's change the topic! !!! Can I as a question again?

CowperKettle

4:21 PM

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Q: Meaning of "passing surmisal" in a poem by Francis Thompson

To a Snowflake by Francis Thompson: What heart could have thought you? -- Past our devisal (O filigree petal!) Fashioned so purely, Fragilely, surely, From what Paradisal Imagineless metal, Too costly for cost? Who hammered you, wrought you, From argentine vapor? -- "God w...

phrase-meaning poetry

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. I read your messages, but let me respond to (or act on) those messages when I get to an actual computer :-)

Anonymous

For now, I'm on my phone.

Damkerng T.

@snailplane Got it! :D

Man_From_India

she is out there to help me, this there doesn't look like a preposition to me, rather it looks like a pronoun. But how to prove it syntactically?

Anonymous

But it patterns like a preposition phrase.

CowperKettle

4:25 PM

Anonymous

I made a qsv-construction tag, which I'm worried may be too technical a name, but I don't know of any better way to put it.

Anonymous

Aww :-)

Man_From_India

@snailplane nods but we can use a pronoun as a complement of a preposition like for her etc. Here it doesn't indicate a real position or place.

CowperKettle

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Anonymous

@Man_From_India What is the context?

Anonymous

4:26 PM

It looks like a locative complement to me, even if it is used figuratively or idiomatically.

Man_From_India

Hmmm no context, earlier yubraj asked about similar sentence. So had this confusion.

Anonymous

Also, the pronoun there can be phonologically reduced, but this one can't.

Man_From_India

I parse it like this - i know she will help

CowperKettle

I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's Lit Crit — FumbleFingers 2 mins ago

They see Lit Crit everywhere

Even in basic questions about the meaning of words

Where to go then to get the basic explanations?

M.A.R.

@CowperKettle I'm voting to close this chat message as off-topic because it's Lit Crit.

CowperKettle

4:32 PM

A friend translated this poem into Russian, and I became curious about how she deciphered these phrases.

I was not paying close attention to the phrasing as I read this poem a couple of years back

Good evening, @Catija!

OED says of surmisal that it's a "now rare" variant of surmise. Which could refer to any of several "now obsolete" definitions for the latter, given we're looking at a poem written over 150 years ago. But my guess is that line is what we might still convey today as Just a passing thought... In context I'd say it means the snowflake was formed by God in a moment of whimsy, but maybe it's the poet having a passing thought about how snowflakes are created. Or maybe it's something else. It's poetry! — FumbleFingers 1 min ago

"in a moment of whimsy"!

and I thought it was "beyond our guessing"

Maybe "surmisal" designates the snowflake.

The snowflake is the "passing (fleeting) surmisal"

> A prostitute, whose identity Thompson never revealed, befriended him, gave him lodgings, and shared her income with him. Thompson was later to describe her in his poetry as his saviour.

yubraj sharma

@CowperKettle What do you mean by lit crit?

Catija

@yubrajsharma Literary Criticism?

CowperKettle

@yubrajsharma did you google for it?

Catija

@CowperKettle Hi :D

CowperKettle

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yubraj sharma

4:41 PM

@CowperKettle I think my question was voted to be closed why ? Lit crit?

@Man_From_India @yuri shared me this book google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://…

Man_From_India

@yubrajsharma good luck!

yubraj sharma

@Man_From_India could you try to download that book?

Man_From_India

@snailplane OMEG says existential there is always a subject. But in this sentence there looks like existential pronoun,but it's not a subject.

> She is there fore.

•for me

Anonymous

5:02 PM

It doesn't look like an existential pronoun to me.

Anonymous

As I mentioned, the pronoun can be phonologically reduced, but this can't.

Anonymous

I think it's an idiomatized/abstract use of a locative expression.

Man_From_India

But again it does not add any meaning. That is not a locative complement.

Anonymous

I think it does add meaning.

Anonymous

Well, except that if the expression as a whole has idiomatized, we need to look at the whole expression for meaning now.

Anonymous

5:05 PM

But I think its source is somewhat transparent.

Anonymous

At least, I've always thought of it as indicating an abstract location of sorts.

Anonymous

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Q: fill the empty box with correct word

I am preparing for TOEFL PPT test. I have this practice on my book Stone Age Thuggery if you think modern society is violent, be grateful you didn't live in Neolithic Britain. A study of 350 ancient skulls has revealed that in the Stone Age, Britons h-- a o-- in 20 cha-- of be-- bashed ov--...

sentence-construction vocabulary sentences

Man_From_India

@snailplane then how would you differentiate it from there is a well in our village?

Anonymous

@Man_From_India That is clearly an existential construction, unlike the other example.

Anonymous

It can be related to the basic sentence A well is in our village.

Anonymous

5:08 PM

There is no such basic sentence for She is there for me.

Man_From_India

@snailplane it's more like she is for me

CowperKettle

Just a passing surmisal - how about if whenever a question like this turns up, we settle on a standard response whereby the question is closed as LitCrit, leaving a link to a chat thread (which the system is obviously nagging us to do now! :) That way we'd have a dedicated page for "legitimate" discussion. But I don't suppose TPTB here on SO would really approve in the long run, if ELL became a sort of "portal" to a poetry-related discussion-based "sub-site". Still, it's an idea. Should we maybe raise it in meta? — FumbleFingers 1 min ago

Anonymous

@Man_From_India Doesn't work.

CowperKettle

I'm too tired to untangle this proposal by FumbleFinger

I don't get it.

Anonymous

She is for me, if it is grammatical or meaningful, is unrelated grammatically and has an unrelated meaning.

CowperKettle

5:10 PM

TPTB - Treatment Positive Tuberculosis?

Man_From_India

@snailplane i think for that reason they add an abstract PP there to make it correct, right?

M.A.R.

@CowperKettle Close. The Powers That Be.

Anonymous

You can't consider She's there for me to be grammatically related to She's for me.

Anonymous

There is no there-insertion going on.

Anonymous

There is no existential construction here.

Cardinal

5:11 PM

word of the night: alkaloids

3

:-)

Anonymous

There is not a pronoun filling in a gap because of an explicit subject requirement.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. The judgment call I made last night was something like this: ① This question will likely never be reopened. ② This question will probably not help future users. ③ This question is difficult to fit into our site because we don't have a category for "guess the last half of a word" questions.

Man_From_India

@snailplane need to read more about it. I'm still not very clear about it. Does CGEL talk about it?

Anonymous

@Man_From_India I'm not sure. It's not a special grammatical construction. I think it's just an idiomatic use of a locative expression.

Man_From_India

How about a well is there in our village?

Anonymous

5:15 PM

@Man_From_India That's a locative expression.

Anonymous

You can tell again because there is in predicative complement position, because it can't be phonologically reduced, and because it can be combined with existential there: There is a well there in our village.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. But I undeleted the question since you objected.

Damkerng T.

@snailplane I understand (1), because it's a rather old question. As for (2), it's probably true, but so are many other questions on our site. I don't quite agree with (3) because fill-in-the-blank questions are quite common on our site.

@snailplane Ah! Thanks!

Man_From_India

But not all pronoun can be reduced there's, fine. But not her's in the meaning her is.

Anonymous

@Man_From_India It's a property specific to the pronoun there.

Anonymous

5:18 PM

It's one of the tests we can use to distinguish there from there.

Man_From_India

@snailplane ok then it makes sense. Thanks.

Time up. Need to go. Bye

Anonymous

Have a good night :-)

Sleep tight! :D

Sleep tight! :D

@M.A.R. A copycat!

5:20 PM

@M.A.R. A copycat!

Damkerng T.

LOL

CowperKettle

5:37 PM

> The results showed that the runners performed best, remembering more after the run than before. Those in the control group fared slightly worse, and the memories of people who played the game were significantly impaired.

sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/10/161019082543.htm

Go for a jog after your English lesson

M.A.R.

@M.A.R. If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well It were done quickly -- Macbeth ;-) — Klaus Warzecha 46 secs ago

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CowperKettle

@StoneyB - maybe you could shed some light on "passing surmisal" (my closure-endangered question about Francis Thompson's poem)

I see no reason to close a question as LitCrit if the question is about the literal meaning of a word or phrase. — TRomano 2 mins ago

Yay!

> For example, based on "Brown II," the U.S. District Court ruled that Prince Edward County, Virginia did not have to desegregate immediately. When faced with a court order to finally begin desegregation in 1959 the county board of supervisors stopped appropriating money for public schools, which remained closed for five years, from 1959 to 1964.

White students in the county were given assistance to attend white-only "private academies" that were taught by teachers formerly employed by the public school system, while black students had no education at all unless they moved out of the county.

Wow

No public schools for 5 years.

I was reading about Thompson, the poet, and wound up on this page about desegregation.

V.V.

6:40 PM

@CowperKettle eMule.com/poetry archive. There's a forum and lots of poems

Anonymous

6:50 PM

We have nine questions left in sentences.

Anonymous

If anyone wants to finish off the retagging project, feel free :-)

M.A.R.

7:29 PM

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Q: How the option can be the?

The following question is from a test: The epidemiologist was worried: despite _______ signs of danger, few countries or companies had taken the possibility of a pandemic seriously, and there was little interest in developing a vaccine. erroneous mounting token inconclusive re...

meaning-in-context meaning sentences

What the title

Damkerng T.

7:43 PM

> “He wore an odd little sleek crisp flaxen wig, setting very close to his head: which wig, it is to be presumed, was made of hair, but which looked far more as though it were spun from filaments of silk or glass.”
--Excerpt From: Dickens, Charles. "A Tale of Two Cities."

Is this also resumptive?

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Ooh, post a question on the main site about that which! :-)

Damkerng T.

Oh! is it interesting?!

M.A.R.

@DamkerngT. More interesting than most ELL questions.

Anonymous

Interesting to snails and planes.

Damkerng T.

Okay! :D

Anonymous

7:55 PM

@M.A.R. I'll take a look at that one later when I have time, since it looks like 2013 snailplane wrote an answer, which might need updating.

Anonymous

I don't trust that 2013 snailplane.

M.A.R.

@snailplane I hate the 2014 MAR.

user62015

Hi @DamkerngT. @snailplane Could you please tell me what is the correct opposite word here? I think option D but Answer says C Q.Perilous
(a)Pitiable (b)Difficult
(c)Sate (d)Comfortable

M.A.R.

BTW @snail, it seems we'll need to resort to a [wording] tag or similar.

@user62015 Heh, what is the question?

Since [wording] is the only real name for it that works.

user62015

Opposite word

antonym @M.A.R.

M.A.R.

7:58 PM

Oh, right. I can't think of a good antonym for 'perilous'

Not-dangerous?

'sate' seems a bit far-fetched.