@TheNumberOne NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

@Mojang ಠ_ಠ

@HelkaHomba Can you add BurningMystery? That is @Sam.

@Easterly Irk @riker why the name change?

A anagram of Riker and Astley.

and who is astley

Rick Astley + RikerW = Easterly Irk + RickW

@epicTCK Rick astley.

and you hated my rick roll.... ಠ_ಠ

how do you come up with these anagrams and smart stuff

@Eas

* @EasterlyIrk

@EasterlyIrk I'm on you should get on

Okay, gimme a mo.

I have some chores to do, should be on within 20 minutes. I'll ping you if I can't.

@epicTCK ^

Ok cool

@epicTCK INCOMING! :P

@everyone DO WE HAVE A GOLD FARM

@HelkaHomba ^

well, calvin did come so

@epicTCK Yes, on the nether roof (though it's fairly slow)

ie on top of the bedrock? o_O?

DO i need to use the minecart glitch or do you already have a system set up for getting there @HelkaHomba

Yes, you can enderpearl through, though I cheated and broke one piece of bedrock for easier access

Go to the origin in the nether and go all the way up the ladder, the way to the nether roof is right near the top

@EasterlyIrk @Sam? If they have an SE account I'd prefer they ping me directly

okay

He left though.

i am gone, sorry, chores and my mom wants her computer, ugggh

okai, bai

NOPE made my brother go do it with some word-fu... :DDD

i have to fold the clothes though soon..

btw your only anagram is Peck Tic.

wordsmith.org/anagram

@Easterly Irk ok Real Ye Skirt aka Rear Key Slit

@epicTCK No. Freakin. Way.

I actually like this one. :P

So 1.9 is out! And we could switch to it if we want, but there are some caveats:

1. The new version of spigot does not seem to support 1.9 yet, so the sleep mods and such would be temporarily disabled

2. I have no clue what will happen to the end (or really the rest of the world but the end is the only place major changes have taken place).

Yaaaaay

sleep mod is okay i guess,

lets go and all collect several chests full of enderpearls and fill xp from the undermine farm then switch to 1.9 @HelkaHomba

@epicTCK Haven't been on the server in ages, but the ender ender was full of enderpearls

Did the end reset?

no but it will probe in 1.

*1.9

actually i think the end will only reset if we start a new world @helkahomba

1.9 doesn't reset the End I don't believe.

The island portals generate retroactively

ahh

@AquaTart No. For now the server is still running 1.8.8 until we discuss this a bit.

@AquaTart But if this indeed happens, then I'm not too concerned about updating

we could just start a new world if you want to, b/c then we won't miss out on the awesome 1.9 features

but there art that many new blocks, so..

@HelkaHomba I'd have to check but I'm 99% certain this is the case

we might miss out on beetroots, shulkers, chorus plants, end rods, elect ryas, dragon heads, and igloos

We won't miss out on shulkers or any of the end stuff since the islands generate in new chunks

(that's the point)

Only thing we'd miss really is beetroots, and I don't think we're missing much there ;)

i hope your right @AquaTart

@epicTCK True. Starting a new world is not completely out of the question (even if it's not necessary, a fresh start is nice), but I'd have to see what other people think (e.g. @Eridan @El'endiaStarman and anyone else who still gets on from time to time.) If we did reset the world, I'd definitely make the old world files downloadable somewhere.

Speaking of which @HelkaHomba can you re-whitelist me?

All this Minecraft talk got me vaguely interested in it again

"Ender Dragon can be resummoned" perhaps we can get the stuff after all... I'll try to find out

@AquaTart Sure, user id again? (quartata?)

@AquaTart Beetroot seeds can be found in end cities and new villages

@HelkaHomba Yes

@HelkaHomba I figured as much

@HelkaHomba just manually reset it yourself so we can get the new items minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/… just do it after we collect enderpearls from the farm

@AquaTart

@AquaTart Added. Welcome back

OK, so I just did some reading and it looks like the island portals spawn when an ender dragon is killed

So no need to reset the end

@AquaTart I've read that too. But can we repspawn the dragon then?

(since we already killed him)

have you read minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/…

@HelkaHomba @AquaTart

everyone star the 1.9 is out post so people who art chatting rn will see it on the sidebar

*aren't

@HelkaHomba Ye. Apparently you can craft ender crystals now, and placing them will respawn it

@AquaTart Ah - minecraft.gamepedia.com/End_Crystal

That doesn't seem so hard

they are quite cheap.

lol i just searched it too @HelkaHomba

That actually kinda sucks because my base in survival has an ender crystal that I got there the old fashioned way (piston bug) but now that they are craftable it doesn't look cool anymore

yeah i suppose

but, @HelkaHomba, you will have to get beetroots somehow for the museum

@epicTCK We can find seeds in end cities - minecraft.gamepedia.com/Beetroot_Seeds

@epicTCK Don't worry. If the ender crystal thing doesn't work properly then I'll reset the end. I'd just prefer not to if we don't have to since then the enderman farm will be destroyed

@HelkaHomba so souns like all we have to do is reset the end and we'll be good

yes, let's do that first @HelkaHomba

Unless you guys are super urgent to test that though, I'll keep in 1.8 for now in case anyone else has qualms. But later today or tomorrow I'll probably switch it to 1.9 and try to respawn the dragon

ok make sure I'm on when you do :DD

hmm let's see if my house has been blown up yet

i'll get on today and grab some enderpearls

@epicTCK Do you know how to get to the ender ender?

@HelkaHomba You wanted to speak to me personally?

Wow, my house is still standing.

Wow, and all my stuff is still there.

Except for all the actual good equipment I lost in that stupid Nether trip I tried to do

....and of course one of those things I lost was food

Say, I never got my Nether portal linked up right.

It kept going to Phi's portal

@HelkaHomba Is the computer still on top of the Nether? Or did you move it to the ocean?

i think we broke part of the redstone thing on top of the nether

oops...

Apparently my portal goes to "1's house" now

@epicTCK What exactly did you break?

it looked like a t-flip-flop

If it's just a part of the memory that's OK that's easy to fix

@Sam Just ping me your minecraft username so I can link back to the message on ppcgmc.herokuapp.com

@Sam Then I'll gladly add you to our server :)

??? what happened to the smoothie joke at the melon tower

Wow, things have changed around here

@HelkaHomba BurningMystery

@AquaTart Uhh, I'm not sure

@AquaTart Yep. Some housekeeping needs to be done, but afaik nothing is radically different or destroyed

Who is "1"?

My portal leads to his portal now.

Oh, as in @TheNumberOne?

@Sam You've been added, welcome

@AquaTart probly

Huh, his portal was somewhere else I thought

@HelkaHomba thanks a lot :D

No one caught the sign-master yet? Jeez.

@HelkaHomba The Nineteenth House's nether portal appears to be broken.

Looks like it is missing a piece of obsidian

Do you mind if I use your portal?

go for it

k thx

need to move some stuff

so this is a very trusting and everyone works together on this server?

yeah

trusting server*

dafuq 1's portal takes me to the cobblestone spiral

@Sam Yep. I've never yet had to ban anyone for griefing or inappropriate conduct. (Though I will if necessary, see basic rules here: ppcgmc.herokuapp.com)

looking on that page right now

sounds like a couple issues at the moment though?

Not many people have been playing recently, so yeah, some things are in need of repairs.

@HelkaHomba the beef burner and auto farm are in disrepare, but other than that a lot of it is still up and running.

ill be on for a few minutes

Wow, you're all on xD

@epicTCK @EasterlyIrk @El'endiaStarman @Eridan @AquaTart @Sam How would you guys feel if we restarted the world from scratch for 1.9? Just testing the waters here - I'm not doing this unless it has OVERWHELMING support. I'd make all the current world files downloadable somewhere so anyone could still play it locally if they wanted.

yes I would be fine with that

i am new so i have nothing to loose

i'd be ok with that, perhaps

I'm pretty new

but if we do , i won't waste my time on this map just to have it reset

so my answer is: yes

we could do multiworldp plugins...

@HelkaHomba

I thought we had just decided to only rest the end

Personally I'd be ok with it, I think a fresh start is nice. But still, it's not going to happen unless everyone is ok with it.

@epicTCK Right. This is just another possibility. Just hypothetical for now

yeah i think a fresh start would be cool

@epicTCK I was trying that with this sever before actually and had lots of issues. Besides, I not sure if 1.9 mods are out yet or if we should trust them yet if they are

@HelkaHomba Has the route to the roof changed?

The east side of the nether looks a bit different

And I can't find my way :P

What's up with the iron bars blocking the entrance to the east side, by the way?

@AquaTart it is b/c of pigmen, that was my fault

there is an iron door though

Oh, OK.

Yeah I noticed the door

Oh wait, I remember now

i'm stupid

@HelkaHomba what's the coords of witch farm again

Uhh, look for sigh to it from nether hub near my portal

if you do make a new world, put the world download on the website

how do I private message someone

@HelkaHomba

@HelkaHomba spigots?

@epicTCK In here, or minecraft?

minecraft is /tell, here is not available.

@EasterlyIrk Spigot.

Modified version of Bukkit

oh

Okay.

@HelkaHomba I don't think i want that... :P

Maybe we can regen the end only?

@HelkaHomba i timed out on the server now i am falling into the void, what should i do?

oh nevermind its ok

@EasterlyIrk We don't need to.

He's just asking out of curiosity.

Right. (But I do want to update to 1.9 and I'm willing to reset the end if absolutely necessary since we'd only really lose the enderman farm.)

@HelkaHomba I'd be really happy with that. My biggest complaint about the server now is that there's nothing to really contribute to, as most large products are done and I can't help out. Also, the Nether is really cluttered and confusing with no major hub, which I think would be really cool to have. I have a couple other reasons, but those are the major ones.

Does anyone know where I can find a spare saddle?

I lost my horse a while back

I have a couple on some horse at my house.

It is far away though.

around 585x 610 z.

@AquaTart ^

That's not that far.

Do you have a portal?

Yeah, but it is one way.

What portal does it go to?

Its not bad, but watch out for F**** creepers.

@AquaTart The one right in the center of the nether portal hub.

Like upstairs from the TNH.

oh rofl

dude, watch out.

I have died 6 times like that there.

I'm just going over on foot

Oh, it goes to the one in the big house. Not TNH, the one with emerald/diamond doorways on the hill.

cool

That's Helka's house.

You can have a horse if you want.

Okay, I though so.

I have one just need to tame it

cool

I have 3? there, feel free to take one.

Your portal actually links to the central one? I find that hard to believe

try it to get back.

It is one way

I usually go through and exit through pietu's house.

crap a witch

Oh well that sucked

I have to go now

If you find my junk please keep it safe

I died right next to the sheep farm (around 400x 400z)

to what?

well, I can't get on.

Sorry.

Did you have anything important @AquaTart?

@Eridan Good to know. I have similar thoughts. We have to rebuild - but we can do it better. (But still, this is just hypothetical until more people give input.)

@Eridan full reasons pls?

@EasterlyIrk It won't despawn until someone gets close

okay

if I get on later I'll grab it

just if you go by 400-500x 400-500z look for a sheep farm

I live there dude.

Mine is the brick house.

wait, that was addressed to everybody, wasn't it.

:(

Other new-world options are 1) start a new server using the same funds and keep both running as long as there are funds, or 2) set up a command block or something that will transport people ten million blocks away (kind of a messy solution)

I like the command block one though.

I don't think we need 2 servers, but I kinda agree with the new world.

And I do want to regen the end.

@EasterlyIrk There are also a lot of things on the server that are outdated or need serious fixing, such as the sheep farm and witch farm. Also, it just feels like a lot of things on the server are really disorganized in general.

we don't have enough people on the server anyway, so as much as I like the idea of having two, it will spread people too thin

@HelkaHomba

@HelkaHomba multiple servers seems like it would be too expensive, and teleporting a bunch of blocks away would in my opinion get rid of the communal/collaborative aspect of the game.

@Eridan Hmm, I've just realized our plan, the budget package 2, is now a dollar less. Not sure if that's a recent change or they just never told me. Also, I'm not sure we've ever used the one day backup thing that we spend a dollar on. I think I could update the plan so we pay $2.99 instead of $4.98. (Regardless of if we want a new server or not.)

In fact I'll do that today, just after I run a backup. But still waiting for input from more users before deciding anything on restarting.

@HelkaHomba Ok! Glad you listened to my input.

Another idea is to start a new $3 server today (I don't mind paying) and over the next month see if it or the old server gets more players, but make it clear that the less popular server will shut down when the month is up.

(The current server is paid off until April 6)

And I could still make the worlds downloadable once a server closes

@HelkaHomba Don't actually own Minecraft, but are world back ups available online? Or they are only hosted internally with only you can access?

@zyabin101 I'm the only one who can access them now

I like the idea of resetting the entire server.

They've removed Herobrine.

I too like the prospect of starting over. Like others have said, there isn't really anything to do that hasn't been done already, and I even moved far away from the center just so I could mine new stuff without hitting existing mines.

Also, I think that would get a lot more people active on the server again (including myself)

@AquaTart That is where my portal is supposed to go to :P

@TheNumberOne That's what I was hoping

Ok. Updated the plan cost so it's not $3.98 instead of $4.98 a month. (I kept the one day backups thing just in case something catastrophic happens, and I'd rather not be worried about making so many backups myself.)

so just to be sure, there is still only 1 server

@HelkaHomba

Yes

Chat Relay needs a new avatar, hmm

chat relay works? @HelkaHomba

Testing it now

ok in the main chanel or...

not working for me rn @HelkaHomba

@HelkaHomba what do you use for hosting the website ppcgmc.herokuapp.com

@epicTCK I know, trying to fix

ahh

@Sam Heroku - id.heroku.com/login

It's freely hosted (but basic and slow)

do you use Heroku for other things or just that website?

hmm

@Sam I have used it for other stuff, but not that much

the relay is slow, but still cool

@TheNumberOne Oh, OK.

I have vague memories of it going to a different place

@epicTCK It's mainly due to SE rate limiting - meta.stackexchange.com/questions/164899/…

@EasterlyIrk I got my stuff

@AquaTart okay.

@HelkaHomba eh, okay.

I am fine with resetting the server.

I've been thinking about taking over an end city anyway. :P

@Magenta How do you feel about completely restarting the server for 1.9? Nearly everyone seems in favor of it but I'm still gauging opinion. (See recent conversations)

I'm OK with resetting mostly because I'd love the chance to help redesign all these farms

Yeah, I'd like to amend my earlier "I like that idea" to "actually, I would really like that idea".

^ Same.

Question: If we did reset, would we use the same seed, or a different seed?

i'd love to reset because it would be fun to create new infrastructure and design the layout of the spawn, as well as automated stuff, etc

NEW SEED @TheNumberOne o

otherwise it is boring

@TheNumberOne Different I'm thinking (though it could be the same)

@epicTCK exactly

@EasterlyIrk So... I didn't realize this at first... but I actually died right next to your house

I probably won't rejoin right now because I'm playing Fallout 4, but I would stop playing Fallout 4 if there were mods/modpacks involved.

That sheep farm is yours :P

And I read through the transcript, and I haven't seen anyone express a negative opinion. The closest I've seen is Easterly Irk's "I kinda agree with the new world" earlier.

@AquaTart No, @El'endiaStarman's.

@AquaTart Yeah, the brick place is mine.

@EasterlyIrk You guys live next to each other? Oh.

Didn't realize.

The birch house on the mountain nearby is his.

@AquaTart rofl

I don't know where any of the new players are

I needed a spot and i like it there.

Here we are talking about restarting and you guys are all still playing :P

@AquaTart s/any/any other/

@HelkaHomba Well, I'm not at the moment... :P

@El'endiaStarman But right, it looks fairly unanimous

@HelkaHomba Well I presume we won't restart right now...

I have but one last thing to do.

@AquaTart I was thinking today or tomorrow

I must catch the sign master.

roflmao

any faster way to get to the nether mob farm

Whenever you restart, I'm gonna get on for sure. I wanna be one of the first to break ground in a new world. :D

..which will be hard because if it is who I think it is they're inactive....

I think @epicTCK admitted it.

But he is new so?

No, he's not it.

Oh no, it can't be epicTCK.

Who then???

The sign-master has been here since the beginning :P

It's Alex. (I think)

@I Go Best?

The Sign Master was around before I joined.

So, catch him in action?

no, it wasn't me, i saw the sign master, and thought it would be funny if I added a few signs in his name

okay

I have seen 4 different 'is ketchup a smoothie' signs. They are getting anoying.

@Rainbolt Not sure many mods are ready for 1.9 yet (though I prefer vanilla anyhow)

Most modpacks are a few versions behind, but content-wise, they are far ahead of 1.9.

There was a mod that I liked where you could sell stuff you made/obtained to a shop (villager) in return for some sort of currency, which you could use to buy stuff from shops (villagers) as well.

COUGH ITS CALLED VANILLA #EMERALDS @El'endiaStarman

The system I'm talking about was a lot more useful.

@El'endiaStarman Millenaire?

^

I really like Millenaire, but very few modpacks have it.

The modpack I almost finished many years ago had it

I like it too.

As PPCG (coders) we have to have to computer one.

Looked it up, and no, I don't think that's it.

It was my friend who set up the server and its mods, so I don't know what the mod was.

minecraft-conception.wikia.com/wiki/Better_Villagers_Mod

?

why don't we just code our own? I know some java... ?

skydaz.com/helpful-villagers-mod-installer-for-minecraft-1-7-10?

hmm, probably not

I think he essentially turned villagers into a kind of chest.

@epicTCK I've tried, and mobs are hard.

@El'endiaStarman ask him.

i wanted to, but windows was being a jerk and my java_home variable was screwed up

@HelkaHomba I'm fine for resetting the server for 1.9

so I couldn't set up JDK

though eclipse worked just fine

@EasterlyIrk Just had to Google. ChestShop

@El'endiaStarman Oh, that.

that's cool, it could add an economy aspect

Never heard of it.

but i'm fine with vanilla'

I have that on my personal server.

It was satisfying to be able to sell off several coal cube stacks and get tons of money for it... :P

lol

Said friend also had a jobs mod.

I don't mind that one, but I wouldn't push to have it included in the restart.

mods.curse.com/bukkit-plugins/minecraft/mcjobs

yep, that one

@AquaTart

I happen to like this one, but the daleks get super annoying.

port forward ur personal server

@AquaTart

we should play on it

> personal

It's really for (very rarely) playing with my RL friends

Sorry.

i was actually just about to say 'you have real life friends?? o_O'.

@AquaTart IDC

Yes.....

Notice the 'I was about' part.

@EasterlyIrk Wasn't apologizing to you.

@HelkaHomba i'd prefer if we make a decision sooner rather than later, the looming option of reseting makes me not want to work on the current server

@HelkaHomba Which seed will we use? Just a random one?

PPCG

ooh

@HelkaHomba @AquaTart i think a good seed would be something about programming

How about Hello, World!?

sounds cool or something like world.generate()

Hello, New World!

WorldFactory.helpImTrappedInAUniverseFactory().new()

@epicTCK I understand, and it looks like everyone is on board. I'll need a bit of time before I can do it though.

No stars for the XKCD reference? Booooo

I think we should just pick a random seed though.

@AquaTart world factory: hitchhikers guide to the galaxy ref?

Nope.

@PhiNotPi Do you have any opinion? You've been a server stalwart from the start.