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rydwolf
rydwolf
00:01
Lmk when you do, I have some tips
Redz
Redz
yet again, I shall add to the list of things to do in the far future
rydwolf
rydwolf
Have a conlang idea
Redz
Redz
not quite up to that stage but still hooray insider knowledge hehehehhehehe
rydwolf
rydwolf
So basically, the conlang's grammar would be prefix, except each argument after the first would have its own little prefix particle so you can keep track of them more easily
So "my cat" might be "myt I my cat" if "myt" is the word for "owned by" and "my" was the little particle that goes before the second argument
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Q: Can anyone Golf this code so small as possible. It can be 64 Bytes small. Now its 125 Bytes

user127064i=input L=int(i()) exec('t=[L*[27,ord(c)%32][c.isalpha()]for c in i()]'+";r=i();print(''.join(r[j-L:j]for j in t))"*int(i()))

python
DLosc
DLosc
00:48
@rydwolf So "of me the cat" more or less?
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@rydwolf ...wait how did you of all people not know this šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­
I swear I remember you saying something about wanting to submit something to it eventually
like on top of being a CMU student you just give me big time SIGBOVIK-er vibes even more so than most other CGCCers
att
att
01:32
^^
 
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Hello, World!
Hello, World!
05:12
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A: "Hello, World!"

ATacoJalapeƱo, 14 bytes lĀæ47?+{ā‚…Āæ4c?Iā‚“Āæ43?Ā¬wā—¹ā‚‹Cā‚“ā‡„ā‚“Āæ4b?" Just the raw string as a base 254 string. Hex-Dump of Bytecode 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F 0000: 6d 47 50 c9 4c 94 43 58 18 76 c3 df 4b 20 Try it Online!

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Q: Do Not Find the Fox in all possible ways

Parcly TaxelDo Not Find the Fox is a non-game where you repeat the following up to 16 times: Pick an empty square in a 4Ɨ4 grid Draw a tile from a bag ā€“ there are 5 Fs, 6 Os and 5 Xs at first ā€“ and place it in the picked square (you pick the square before drawing the tile) You win iff you fill the grid with...

code-golf kolmogorov-complexity combinatorics matrix
lyxal
lyxal
06:16
@Hello,World! hey that's the funny regex parsed language
 
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The Empty String Photographer
The Empty String Photographer
07:26
I am thinking of making a very unusual piece of music. Let me give you hints as to what it is.
Time signature: 48000/4
Tempo: 2880000 bpm
Redz
Redz
07:38
as a musician, this has great promise, provided it doesn't set the instrument on fire.
actually no, extra points for setting the instrument on fire.
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
07:58
@rydwolf yeah i thought you knew
@Redz setting the instrument on fire ends the run, leading to decreased rewards :/ well-trained agents should learn not to do that by themselves
@Redz also read like the first 2 of these sigbovik.org/2024/proceedings.pdf
mousetail 'he-him'
mousetail 'he-him'
@TheEmptyStringPhotographer A human can hear frequencies up to 5000 hz. So they wouldn't be able to even hear anything
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
for the unitiated:
> Abstract
Programming Socks are an essential piece of equipment for any respectable software engineer. How-
ever, there is limited research on the level of impact that they have on practitioners. In this paper we
investigate the claim that Programming Socks are a low-cost high-impact upgrade to engineersā€™ wardrobes
and find that they have much untapped potential
mousetail 'he-him'
mousetail 'he-him'
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What really increases productivity
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
TRUE
att
att
indeed
emanresu A
emanresu A
08:19
need
mousetail 'he-him'
mousetail 'he-him'
I should ask Y-Combinator for funding to launch a striped socks brand. "OpenSock"
emanresu A
emanresu A
08:40
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mousetail 'he-him'
mousetail 'he-him'
An even better buisnesss model
att
att
09:04
what's stopping u
mousetail 'he-him'
mousetail 'he-him'
Venture capitalist funding
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Neil
Neil
10:03
I wear semiconductor socks, is that close enough? (They're full of holes.)
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

W DCell`s Life #2: Infinite \$\color{crimson}{\text{META: this seems excessive? maybe stick to 100x100 boards or something similar}}\$ In the process of editing this right now so please do not upvote/downvote \$\color{crimson}{\text{Scoring (META)}}\$ \$\color{crimson}{\text{I have no clue what to p...

Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
10:30
@Neil what even are SC socks?
ah got it
the joke was, as is often the case on the internet, about holes
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rydwolf
rydwolf
14:55
@DLosc Not really, the particle would be different for every word
More like if/endif
Or like how some langs allow you to repeat the name of the function after the closing brace for readability
 
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The Empty String Photographer
The Empty String Photographer
16:44
@mousetail'he-him' itā€™s actually 20 to 28 kHz
@mousetail'he-him' Plus, that would mean I couldnā€™t hear a sound file on a computer.
@Themoonisacheese That untapped potential will disappear once I poke it with my finger!
Seggan
Seggan
16:59
@TheEmptyStringPhotographer your proposed piece is 2.8 megahertz
@TheEmptyStringPhotographer ? why not?
@rydwolf ah yes, Self-Adjusting Computation, Denotational Semantics of Pidgin and Creole, Worm Causality, Dimorphic Computing, and... Science
@rydwolf unironically "Artificial Stupidity" is something being very seriously worked on rn
Seggan
Seggan
17:15
ok sigbovik is hilarious
> While computer scientists have been focusing on salesmen for centuries, no scholar has investigated the TSP in the context
of a saleswoman. Motivated to fill this gap in the literature, we recruited a saleswoman and asked her to deliver 26 packages
to the following cities: Agen, Taipei, Porco Rosso, Saint Louis, Fuchu, Ur, Boende, Nineveh, San Juan, Laputa, Akureyri,
Conakry, Havana, Podunk, Dubai, Seville, Algarrobo, Babel, Ankh-Morpork, Wonderland, Petaouchnok, Atlantis, Zootopia,
Gotham City, Eden, and Minas Tirith. We made it clear she would only get compensated if she visited each lo…
> The combinatorial explosion in the TSP makes it notoriously difficult to solve as the number of cities increases, making it
an NP-hard problem. We find that by substituting the salesman with a saleswoman, the TSP is reduced to a problem in P as
the saleswoman is willing to ask for directions to obtain the optimal route. Therefore, if you send a heteronormative cisgender
couple of salespeople on their merry way, the TSP becomes both an NP and P problem simultaneously. In fact, it is in a
superposition of state as long as the couple argues. When they finally decide to either follow the path…
rydwolf
rydwolf
17:38
I'm so used to scanners being a huge pain to work with, but I just tried scanning a document with one of CMU's printers and it was such a pleasant experience
You literally just tap your ID, click "scan", put the document in (and type in the settings), and it emails it to you
with OCR already done
and you don't have to type your email in on one of those awful on-screen keyboards, it just knows your email already
Simd
Simd
17:55
that's great!
The Empty String Photographer
The Empty String Photographer
18:07
@Seggan The sample rate is > 5kHz
@Seggan No, that's 2.8 mega/60 Hz, it's 2,888,000 beats per MINUTE
so 48,000 Hz is the tempo
Seggan
Seggan
@TheEmptyStringPhotographer ah oops
still 48 kHz is higher than what most adults can hear
The Empty String Photographer
The Empty String Photographer
I was thinking of emulating a sound file though
let's pretend your samples went 0.2, 0.5, 1, 0.3, -0.2
Seggan
Seggan
@TheEmptyStringPhotographer yes but those samples are values, not simply beats or whatnot
1 0 -1 is 1 Hz across 3 samples
The Empty String Photographer
The Empty String Photographer
18:22
To map each to a frequency, you solve $sin(x * 2pi/48000) = sample$
or you do $arcsin(sample) * 48000/2pi$
(Note that we are assuming that the sample rate is 48000Hz)
Seggan
Seggan
problem is a note is a distinct sound
youd have to do a giant slur across the whole piece
and give each note a distinct dynamic
The Empty String Photographer
The Empty String Photographer
Thing is, the note only last for 1/48000 seconds
Seggan
Seggan
itd still present itself as a 48 khz tone, assuming the entire thing is quarter notes
maybe you could get some overtones like that yeah but theyd be comparatively quiet
The Empty String Photographer
The Empty String Photographer
Why does that not happen with a sound file then?
DLosc
DLosc
@rydwolf Ah, so more like the Double-Marked strategy here
DLosc
DLosc
18:58
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Mathjax moment
Should've simplified to 50abdeghin³o³rst²uv
Hello, World!
Hello, World!
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A: "Hello, World!"

Nobody NobodyHšŸŒ, 2 bytes Here is it, a 2 bytes answer... hw Try it here

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19:46
@DLosc ā€¦did they use \$ with the intention of escaping it out of mathjax
@rydwolf holy shit nice
I get around that for printing here because thereā€™s QR codes for printing but I donā€™t think they have the same thing for scans
also the funny thing about said QR codes is theyā€™re literally just static links and you can print to any printer from anywhere with them
rydwolf
rydwolf
Our printing works by putting anything you print into a queue, and you tap your ID at any printer to release the print job
I do believe you can remotely release a print job through the web interface that nobody uses though
Seggan
Seggan
@TheEmptyStringPhotographer because each same is not a distinct note; it is a speaker position
emanresu A
emanresu A
@UnrelatedString \$ is just a cgcc thing
it's $ for the rest of the network
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Oh LMAO
Phenomenal
 
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Ginger
Ginger
21:02
@rydwolf damn
that sounds actually usable
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
@rydwolf welcome to the magical world of print spoolers :D
please do not bring up print spoolers near me ever again.
not but actually most modern entreprise-grade printers are really good and nothing like the experience you'd have printing with a home printer
for one, they're laser printers and that makes them superior because everything is lasers (no but really), they're not built to cost, and they must integrate well with protocols that were in place like 50 years ago because otherwise they won't be able to keep renting them out.
that's right, enterprise printers are pretty much all rentals. you pay a fixed cost per month, plus a cost per page (that's why they have the nifty apps that tell you how much you've printed), and in exchange you pay no cost for repairs, very low cost for setup (basically just 1hr pay for a sysadmin) and they get upgraded when they break (never. they never break.)
Ginger
Ginger
I can't tell what parts of this are sarcasm
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
i mean the rent seeking kinda sucks but overall enterprise printers are great
also take a look around the print settings if they let you do that. ours can staple shit while they print double sided, it's insane
Ginger
Ginger
so why do home printers uniformly suck ass
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
home printer buyers only look at the tag on the shelf when choosing a printer
Ginger
Ginger
21:09
that's a nonanswer
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
so it's a race to the bottom to make the crappiest shit possible, with cartridges that are as expensive as possible
Ginger
Ginger
maybe we can all go back to teletypes
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
also HP for some reason managed to sell consumers on printing photos at home? i'm not quite sure how in the fuck they managed to do that
Ginger
Ginger
oh god don't remind me
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
that's the entire reason home printers are mostly inkjet when they have no good reason to be anymore from the consumer's perspective
Ginger
Ginger
21:10
not a fan of hp, gotta be honest
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
if you want a good home printer get a 200$ non-hp laser printer and you're mostly golden
@Ginger this but unironically
can we please bring back retro terminals an wall actually being useful
Ginger
Ginger
but whatever will I do with my five thousand fonts
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
install them on the server we got space now
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Ginger
Ginger
(also more seriously there's the matter of Unicode support)
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
*lights turn on*
*comedian awkwardly gets mic, feedback is heard*
-h-hey so, uh, what's the deal with unicode support?
Ginger
Ginger
21:16
a solitary U+1F44F is heard from somewhere in the crowd
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
i mean it'll never happen, terminals are the product of an era when people at IBM thought SQL was so much like natural language people would simply learn SQL if they needed any data in their job
Ginger
Ginger
What's The Deal With Terminfo?
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
quite literally XKCD 927 is the deal with terminfo
Ginger
Ginger
inventing a time machine for the exclusive purpose of showing Minecraft's JSON text component format to ANSI
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
equivalent to showing jump up to a small victorian child
Ginger
Ginger
21:20
skill issue tbh
Seggan
Seggan
@Themoonisacheese imagine my disappointment when i found out that laser printers do not, in fact, use lasers to print the text
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
isn't it crazy how mojang saw the need to store data about objects, and decided to create the entire nbt spec instead of simply looking a little to the left at minetest who decided to shove it all in sqlite?
@Seggan yeah... still pretty cool though
Ginger
Ginger
that's not fair to mojang and you know it
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
they used to, and that counts for something surely
@Ginger you're right, it was entirely notch's fault
Seggan
Seggan
@Themoonisacheese tbf nbt is a lot more flexible than sqlite, like its not just used for serialization
Ginger
Ginger
21:22
there you go
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
(like actually)
Ginger
Ginger
no need to implicate the entire company
the temptation to complain about DFU again
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
this is the fuckass spec he wrote btw web.archive.org/web/20110723210920/http://www.minecraft.net/…
please complain about DFU
Seggan
Seggan
@Themoonisacheese dont get me started on "SQL == natural language"
Ginger
Ginger
more like data fucker upper ahahahaha
DFU permeates Java Edition's codebase
and if you're not Mojang, or one of a very small group of extremely smart modders, it's useless to you
...huh, there's something you don't see every day
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Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
21:25
oh i though we were going to meme about device firmware update
Ginger
Ginger
nope lol
the other DFU
for the uninitiated, Data Fixer Upper is Mojang's insanely overengineered solution to upgrading Minecraft world data
I barely understand how it works, and by way of documentation the GH repo links to a bunch of academic papers about data transformation
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
do people typically update their modded game version?
ATaco
ATaco
Which has only gotten more Jank now that they interpolate between world generators
Ginger
Ginger
@Themoonisacheese I mean, it doesn't really matter since mods can't participate in DFU's pageantry
well, they can but they shouldn't
emanresu A
emanresu A
@Themoonisacheese shoutout to matt gray's javascript print spooler that's more reliable than the windows one
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
21:30
@emanresuA the thing is microsoft are perfectly capable of writing a good (better...) print spooler, they just don't want you to have it as a consumer
the print spooler that comes with active directory controllers by default is very serviceable
but no, windows must have The Bad One
Ginger
Ginger
one of the gazillion rough edges in MC modding is that if you want to make changes to how you're serializing... anything, you have to upgrade the data yourself
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
ah i see
Ginger
Ginger
despite mojang having written this absurdly baroque library specifically for doing that
so you better make sure you get it right the first time :3
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
mojang try not to invent a new IO library challenge (impossible)
emanresu A
emanresu A
let me guess there's three different, conflicting, all with various drawbacks, libraries that people have written to deal with these things
Ginger
Ginger
21:32
I mean, possibly? hell knows
you only need one library and that's the modloader šŸ¦…
emanresu A
emanresu A
which one
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
oof
Ginger
Ginger
in terms of "libraries", Modrinth and CF are both full of utility mods used by one specific mod developer for their personal projects, and all of them do the same things in slightly different ways
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
i mean also probably because it's kind of the fun part
Ginger
Ginger
okay maybe I'm being a little bit uncharitable :p
doing it like that is good for ad revenue, among other things
see: Kotlin For Forge and its four million downloads on Modrinth, which could easily have been packaged as a normal Maven library
emanresu A
emanresu A
21:35
hm, I'd have expected minecraft modding to be more library-oriented
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
ad revenue of what? do people manually download mods still?
Ginger
Ginger
nope lol
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
@Ginger then again, maven.
Ginger
Ginger
@Themoonisacheese sometimes yes; Modrinth and CF both also have their own launchers which show ads
CF's is hot garbage though
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
oh cool, i get to download all of their shit for no attention loss with Prism Launcher ā„¢ļø download Prism Launcherā„¢ļø today with code CHEESE at checkout for 0% off
also prism ahs a dedicated cat button
emanresu A
emanresu A
21:38
for comparison: with Celeste modding, pretty much every new game mechanic / system / entity / level component / tileset / graphics set (/ related collection thereof) is packaged into its own "Helper" mod that anyone can add as a dependency and start using in levels
Ginger
Ginger
bear in mind that using the Modrinth launcher directly finances me personally :3c
not for very much but still
emanresu A
emanresu A
girl you haven't even got one Conor out of it
(there's a reference no one else here is gonna get)
Ginger
Ginger
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checkmate liberal
that's slightly more than one Conor
emanresu A
emanresu A
I see :3
Themoonisacheese
Themoonisacheese
@Ginger i prefer to reward creators i enjoy by donating to them directly, in this case VPSes :D
Ginger
Ginger
21:41
true :3
the exact rates Modrinth uses aren't constant, but the KFF developer has probably made a couple thousand dollars off maybe 500 lines of Kotlin and happening to come up with it before anyone else
ATaco
ATaco
21:52
I too enjoy getting my trickle of minecraft dollars
DLosc
DLosc
22:05
@emanresuA The Bounciest Man on the Internet Matt Gray?
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emanresu A
emanresu A
yes :3
rydwolf
rydwolf
22:20
@Themoonisacheese yeah, I'm currently working to acquire an enterprise printer to own and it's surprisingly annoying
(I'm assistant editor-in-chief of a small campus publication and we're tired of paying campus printing fees)
Trying to get $4k in capital funding from CMU's Joint Funding Committee is proving to be a huge pain while meanwhile Student Senate was trying to spend $10k on a couch and dimmer lights
Which, people have pointed out, sounds suspiciously like the person planning the remodeling just wants to have sex in the student senate office
@Themoonisacheese I had a black and white Brother laser printer, it's pretty nice
DLosc
DLosc
Had, past tense? "O Brother, where art thou!"
rydwolf
rydwolf
Didn't fit in my carry-on :p
Redz
Redz
23:08
speaking of printers, the printing system in my school got updated for the new year with fancy extra stuff that absolutely nobody knows how to use
it's horrible really, but the UI design is cooler so that's a plus

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