The Nineteenth Byte

noodle person

00:00

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A: Find the Smallest Data Type for a Number

Uiua, 5 bytes ⍜ₙ⌈2⧻ Try it: Uiua pad Uiua's number type is float64 (double-precision), so I represented the input as an array of bytes 0-255, little endian. (Is that a cheaty numeric representation? It seemed reasonable to me.) The ⧻ length of the array is the number of bytes needed to store the...

This is downvoted for what is admittedly a bit of a cheaty input method.

What would be a more acceptable alternative?

rydwolf

I am about to embark on writing a custom PDF parser

wish me luck

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00:15

.................

you're gonna need it

o7

emanresu A

@noodleperson Several of the other answers do use float64 input, since although MAX_SAFE_INT is 2^53-1 you can still determine which datatype it falls under

for the record I'm the one who downvoted

rydwolf

PDF is a goofy ahh format

Ginger

00:42

@rydwolf ಠ⁠_⁠ಠ

thejonymyster

00:52

@rydwolf you should take a look at what tumblr's been up to. I hear it's become the new pdf.

rydwolf

That is a concerning combination of words

Many of them actually

noodle person

@emanresuA Good point, I didn't even consider it for some reason. I have updated my solution.

Ginger

@thejonymyster what

thejonymyster

qz.com/708295/…

aw no embed

rydwolf

Pfft

If tumblr's the new pdf can Stack Exchange be the new xml?

thejonymyster

01:10

i think we can do it

Ginger

please do not do that

ATaco

I've finally updated my CMC Chat Widget which keeps track of the last few CMCs posted, which is good if you're interested in those

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thejonymyster

01:27

CMC: find out if the CMC chat widget works

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Not seeing yours on the widget :P

noodle person

I don't know how to use the widget

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or rather I am seeing one of yours on the widget

noodle person

I just installed it but I don't see any UI for it or anything

ATaco

It uses the Search, which interesting doesn't seem to include the most recent messages...

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01:29

it's just that it's from 1323151 seconds ago

noodle person

Is there supposed to be some UI to show me what CMCs there are?

ATaco

On the Righthand Side, there should Recent CMCs

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noodle person

I don't see that

ATaco

Strange, Any error in console?

noodle person

01:32

A bunch of the same error

master-chat.js?v=cef9ce809296:6 Uncaught TypeError: i.data.replace is not a function
    at master-chat.js?v=cef9ce809296:6:25739

ATaco

Well that's facinating

What browser?

noodle person

Is that just Chat?

I feel like it might just be a chat bug

Arc, which is chromium based

It seems to throw once every second or so

ATaco

Strange, Chrome works fine

thejonymyster

i got a worse one

in firefox

noodle person

Actually, twice a second, and I think it's uniformly always that

thejonymyster

01:33

Script error in [Greasemonkey script tampermonkey.net//CMC Widget; version 0.2]:
ReferenceError: CHAT is not defined

CMC Widget:186:19

and its prolly why im not seeing anything for the widget at all

ATaco

That sure is strange, Pretty sure CHAT is a SE thing

noodle person

CHAT is defined for me.

thejonymyster

shrugma - if you make any big changes post abt it and ill be down to try again

noodle person

Gonna test it with all other userscripts disabled.

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@ATaco And I'm doing mostly fine on Firefox

noodle person

01:39

Manually running the content of the userscript worked for me. I think it's not loading in properly for some reason.

(manually running it in the console that is)

lyxal

CMC: Given an integer if it is even, print CMC: (**CMC**:), otherwise, print the program source code

noodle person

I got the errors to go away.

They were caused by React Devtools passing some weird data through postMessage somehow, I think. I disabled the extension.

lyxal

Mfw negative time

ATaco

Feature

emanresu A

@lyxal Vyxal, 19 bytes: `q‛:Ė+‛CM×dp∞$"i`:Ė

ATaco

01:48

I hate patching live, but I should've more or less fixed the bugs

(The big ones, that is)

ATaco

02:01

CMC: Swap every pair of elements in an array. The array will always be even in length.

noodle person

Dup

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feel like I've seen this as a challenge on main but Jelly, 3 bytes: s2U (full program only since it abuses smash printing to save an F)

lyxal

@ATaco Vyxal, 3 bytes: y$Y

Definitely feel like I've seen that before

noodle person

I can't find it but 90% sure it's a main challenge

ATaco

Probably is, it's a very canonical challenge idea

emanresu A

02:24

it is yeah

noodle person

02:56

JS: a=>a.map((_,i)=>a[i%2?i-1:i+1])

emanresu A

i^1

noodle person

Oh, right

(-1)^i I thought?

Wait no

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that's just ~i

noodle person

^ is bitwise

not power lol I forgot

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:P

noodle person

02:59

That's quite a nice idea sophia

Never seen it before

emanresu A

I stole it from the challenge you were talking about :p

thejonymyster

03:35

whats going on with this challenge? is it so old that nobody knew to put their scores in yet lol

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Q: Most destructive "forgot-to-enter-insert-mode" sequence in Vim

Pretend you have an arbitrary text file (which you may choose). Give the sequence of keystrokes that is most destructive (*) if it was intended to be inserted to the text, but instead was entered in normal mode (i.e. i/a was not pressed). You may not enter visual mode and not quit Vim. Destruct...

rydwolf

04:10

Idea: wordle but the word might be any length

And you can enter arbitrarily long words

The number of guesses you're allowed is length+1

Nothing else changes

ATaco

Feels like something like q would be unguessed 90% of the time

thejonymyster

q not word next quastion

rydwolf

^ plus you could guess really long words at the start

Two-letter words would probably be too hard so maybe there would be a three letter minimum

ATaco

CMC: Which Scrabble Word has the most distinct letters

rydwolf

DERMATOGLYPHICS

15

thejonymyster

04:21

skimmed the list and got jumpscared by "SLAKING"

hint: its not the pokemon

rydwolf

Also UNCOPYRIGHTABLE

Those are the only 2 15s tho

thejonymyster

my vote is on the latter for having more vowels

in terms of viability

rydwolf

Here's my code:

thejonymyster

cool!

ATaco

I just had the ungoddly one-liner

temp1.innerHTML.split('\n').map(c=>[c,[...new Set(c.split(''))].length]).sort((a,b)=>(b[1]+(b[0].length/100))-(a[1]+(a[0].length/100)))

rydwolf

04:23

[...new Set(c.split(''))].length can just be new Set(c).size lol

ATaco

I was writing quickly, not smartly.

Never mistake me for someone who writes smart code

thejonymyster

never mistake me. always correct me

caveman talk me

rydwolf

never mistake me. mrtake me.

thejonymyster

pity foo

mr t

lyxal

Shall I call a bondulance?

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thejonymyster

04:30

they should have scrabble tournaments with an unlimited size board and unlimited pieces. the only way to end the game is to have some ridiculous set up with forced non-words as the only plays on the outside

for lack of better phrasing

or resigning if youre weak i guess

ATaco

CMegaC: Score a scrabble move, return false if it's not a word

thejonymyster

im assuming no access to the dict

ATaco

04:48

Dict can be read for free, otherwise the challenge is just encrypting the scrabble dictionary

There are actually quite a few scrabble challenges, but most of them either don't require it to be a valid word, or don't consider board state (Or multipliers)

lyxal

How are moves represented?

ATaco

In any convenient format, including the previous board state, the column and row of the first appended character followed by the direction, or the positions of all appended characters, and so on.

Alternatively, CMC: /questions/162596/scrabble-scorer + Validate if it's a legal scrabble word

rydwolf

06:51

oh yeah sorry my bad

obviously the word was "a large deep-bodied fish with a deep blue back, silvery belly, and crimson fins, living in deep oceanic waters."

@rydwolf I made this

emanresu A

and this is why people should sanitise their dictionaries

ooh nice

rydwolf

The difficulty is...variable

emanresu A

at least you're not using /dict/words and allowing everything from abarticulation to zygomaticoauricularis

rydwolf

I'm just using the scrabble dictionary (bad idea)

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rydwolf

07:05

Hmm, how could I make a share feature for this that looks visually enticing, but doesn't partially spoil the puzzle?

I can't just do what wordle does, since the length of the correct word is part of the challenge

Maybe I could just say how many gray tiles were in each guess?

Something like

Unboundle: November 29th, 2024
3/6

⬜×6
⬜×11
⬜×0 (🟩!)

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What does it mean.

rydwolf

Six gray tiles in my first guess, 11 gray tiles in my second guess, zero gray tiles in my third guess, which was correct

192927376337929292283737373773

Well it's not visually enticing but interesting.

@rydwolf can I play this or is it not like publicly deployed.

rydwolf

07:22

ryantosh.github.io/unboundle

192927376337929292283737373773

Is it length + 1?

rydwolf

No, always 6

I realized the difficulty doesn't really scale that linearly with the length

192927376337929292283737373773

Oh alright.

That makes sense.

I have made an 8-letter guess and it has at the end a green E.

Does that mean the word is 8 letters long and the end is E,

or that just the end is E in whatever-length word?

rydwolf

I might back off on the difficulty and make it 8 guesses instead of 6

@192927376337929292283737373773 neither, it means that the 8th letter is E

192927376337929292283737373773

Oh.

rydwolf

07:32

Anyway I'm going to do something I should've done a long time ago

(sleep)

good night gang

192927376337929292283737373773

It's dead morning.

So the third letter is N and the eigth is E.

And the fifth is sixteenth.

So the word is somewhere along this:

F_N____E

rydwolf

Please don't spoil it for other people, everyone has the same word

(well, ignoring timezone stuff. It's based on your local time)

192927376337929292283737373773

Wait, actually?

So it won't reset every time?

That means I can gather information, just reload the page, and use it to get six extra guesses?

It's not like the word is going to change.

mousetail 'he-him'

You can do that in regular wordle too if you wanted

192927376337929292283737373773

Genius.

mousetail 'he-him'

07:45

It will ruin your own fun though

192927376337929292283737373773

I mean it will just give me more of a breather and I will still need to try to solve it.

Wordle Solver has got no help.

Probably because of a limited dictionary.

lyxal

The mobile support for unboundle is really great

In that it's unplayable because you can't submit any guesses

192927376337929292283737373773

08:06

This would have been a nightmare for me the past days.

Parsing this as a list would be easier.

Well I have something.

99% of these aren't words

It would be easier if I could automate the submitting part too, but alas.

Interesting so it makes the words over time.

Wait, one thing is that it doesn't account if the letter is already in the word.

So I have to remove them.

Well I am going to try to gather more information.

rot13(Jnvg, vf R gur friragu cbfvgvba?)

Wait this is very weird.

If I try a two-letter word like 'RE',

Themoonisacheese

→ 1 cosmic dust moved to The Nineteenth Bakery

192927376337929292283737373773

it still tells me that rot13(R vf gur ynfg yrggre), so that conflicts with it being the 8th letter.

@Themoonisacheese That question would have been perfect for me.

Okay at this point I have a really good model of the word.

emanresu A

@Themoonisacheese just FYI we generally don't move these things until they've been dealt with - i.e. closed/deleted

Themoonisacheese

@192927376337929292283737373773 actually it's not closed, maybe i shouldn't have moved it

well there you go

i was conviced it was

given the... gestures vaguely at the challenge

192927376337929292283737373773

08:21

Finding the second-letter is mission top right now.

Themoonisacheese

TIL that starring messages has a 2-second cooldown

192927376337929292283737373773

This is really weird.

wait.

I FOUND THE FIRST THREE LETTERS.

But somehow my previous model was inaccurate.

I guess it all does depend on the weird relativity of the E.

Weird, how come rot13(srat) is not a known word.

Neil

@rydwolf scrabble words only go up to 15 letters, which is why its plural isn't there. non-scrabble words include vodkathumbscrewingly and pubvexingfjordschmaltzy

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I have never had such a good Unboundle game before!

wait,

I was not supposed to spoil it.

well there are only like 3 or 5 active people in this room.

I think it will be fine.

Unboundle: November 29, 2024
3/6

⬜×4
⬜×4
⬜×0

https://ryantosh.github.io/unboundle

It only took like a hour.

Great.

Anyways goodbye for the day.

Themoonisacheese

>logs in
>solves unboundle
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves

chad behavior tbh

lyxal

10:11

@Themoonisacheese that was certainly one of the questions ever

@Themoonisacheese wait until you learn there's also a limit of 20 stars per room per day

And that you can also view deleted messages in rooms you own

Themoonisacheese

i mena i can read it but only if i go look at the history

lyxal

That's what I meant

Deleted messages don't show by default

You need a userscript for that (in addition to permissions)

But as a room owner you have that option here

Themoonisacheese

i see

192927376337929292283737373773

10:58

Yes you can see.

Unless you're blind.

WAIT HE HAS A BLINDFOLD.

mousetail 'he-him'

11:41

The OEIS calls the urinal sequence the payphone sequence: oeis.org/A166079 even though it makes no sense, why would you not want to use adjacent payphones?

Themoonisacheese

to not be bothered by the guy yelling in the phone i guess

/shrug

att

12:55

i'd want some privacy for my calls

Themoonisacheese

13:14

anyone here a python wizard?

my shit runs when i use a debugger but not when i call it directly -> codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/276954/88192

i've verified that the python version is the same, and they're both running in the same venv

mousetail 'he-him'

Welcome to subprocess

Themoonisacheese

not even

```❯ python3 main.py helper /bin/bash test.bash
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "main.py", line 191, in <module>
tourney = import_module(sys.argv[1])
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/usr/lib64/python3.11/importlib/__init__.py", line 126, in import_module
return _bootstrap._gcd_import(name[level:], package, level)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1204, in _gcd_import
File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1176, in _find_and_load

mousetail 'he-him'

Welcome to the python import system

Themoonisacheese

how is importlib behaving differently in a debugger ??

(to be entirely fair, it did, in fact, debug it)

mousetail 'he-him'

It behaves differently depending on the moon phase so debugger makes more sense

noodle person

13:18

Lol

mousetail 'he-him'

Check sys.path in each case and look for discrepancies, as well as the working directory

Or try black magic like pip install -e .

Themoonisacheese