@Seggan this greatly depends on what you enjoy more: solving algorithm problems or solving organisational/enterprise problems

Joke's on you real software engineering jobs are neither

Software engineering goes into depth on the engineering part of software development. This entails project management, architecting the tools used in a project/software solution, understanding client requirements, developing models and documentation of your software solution and other more project management

Joke's on you real software engineering jobs are neither

... it's not even utc midnight, come on chat

Joke's on you real software engineering jobs are neither

@emanresuA [citation needed]

You rarely, if ever, solve problems. Most of the time you try to clean up, or avoid making worse, other peoples' problems

That's what I meant by solving organisational/enterprise problems :p

Software engineering is the enterprise end. Cybersec (i imagine) is more actual computer problems

The point I was making is that SE tends towards handling the meta aspects of a problem/org/software solution, while cybersec (presumably) tends towards working with actual logic or networks

I don't know much about cybersec, but I sure do know about software engineering :p

@emanresuA also, that sounds more like computer science.

Software engineering solves problems from the moment a project starts :p

One thing you'll come to understand if you get a software engineering job: You do not get to work on new projects

Maybe, but the role doesn't change

You're still dealing with the structural concepts

Now if you're a software developer, that's different

According to the comments, in some European contexts "engineer" is more prestigious and requires higher qualification, but there's zero difference between the work you do

But regardless of how it is in practice, my point was about uni course content

Because that's what Seggan was talking about

Yeah just be aware that real jobs are not at all like that

At my workplace we have a running gag where if someone leaves their computer unlocked, someone else will open Slack and send a specific gif

One of my co-workers routinely doesn't lock his computer, but it's basically impossible to use Slack on his computer

His desk and my desk are facing in opposite directions so I can't easily spy on him to see how he sends Slack messages

To be clear: he has pretty much challenged me to figure out how to do this. The biggest constraint is how infrequent and short my attempts are, because they can only be while he's not at his desk

@emanresuA ofc, I once heard you don't use anything from uni lol

@Bbrk24 what do you mean by moving it away from the mouse?

If your mouse pointer is touching the edge of the window, the window moves just enough so that the mouse is no longer touching it. idr how he handled the edge of the screen but I couldn't trap it in a corner

My suggestion is open slack from the command line (apparently just typing the exe name should work) and use keyboard shortcuts (ctrl + n starts a new message apparently...dont know if that works) to type a message

If the mouse is going to be a problem, bypass it altogether :p

So I would have to right-click on the taskbar and close it, then restart it?

Depends on whether opening slack from powershell puts it into focus if it's already open

(on mobile, can't test behaviour)

Do you happen to know where the exe would live? presumably it's not in $PATH

what is mac doing with alt tab

same thing windows does, it lets you switch programs

is that not cmd tab

@Bbrk24 I don't (I don't use slack). I just came up with the idea based on the requirements :p

it just doesn't let the windows vm see it so I switch from the vm to something else

@att ...did he switch his keys around so that "alt" is command and not option

I mean, if you can open slack using gui, you should be able to just use keyboard shortcuts anyway

So long as the window moving script keeps slack in focus

I need to look up the keyboard shortcut for the gif searcher

Is it not a slash command?

(that's apparently how to use giphy if that's what y'all are using)

I usually click the gif button but that's not an option here

Does slack onebox gifs?

idk how it works exactly but the giphy command should be fine

If slack oneboxes gifs from links like chat does, you could just type the link

Assuming you upload it to a place with a short enough link

@Bbrk24 alternatively if this works and consistently works, you should be good to go

In summary, get slack in focus somehow (even if it's moved to the side) and then keyboard shortcuts

Hopefully that should work

@Bbrk24 when does it minimise it?

@lyxal I don't know the exact order/timing but one time I managed to click on it and then it almost immediately disappeared

Does it minimise if you open from the task bar?

No!

But I didn't know about Ctrl-N so I wasn't able to do anything with that

I think you have everything you need then :)

Good luck out there

Make sure to tell us if you're successful

Monday's Labor Day in the US so I can't try again until Tuesday at the earliest

Well, when you get a chance, tell us :p

I explained my idea of transpiling YAML to Rust in the Rust Discord server, never got so many people so offended before

> kinda the stupidest decision ive ever encountered

> this is one giant xyz problem i think

> Bestie this is the entire alphabet

Just the English alphabet? Nah, you'll need at least all of ASCII

@mousetail this only has 4 letters, not 26?

I think whoever said that doesn't know their alphabet

If they made that claim about something like "the quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog" then sure they'd be right

But "this"?

That's only a small sample of the alphabet

perhaps they have a smaller alphabet

@mousetail wait how would that even work? YAML's just an information interchange format right?

Or do you mean like, transpiling it to a compile-time constant containing the data in the YAML

@att "they" is also 4 letters

4 is not smaller than 4

@RydwolfPrograms Yes

Except the YAML has some handlebars style syntax that needs to be substituted for real Rust variables

Sounds interesting, though probably a premature optimization of something or other :p

I'm becoming increasingly convinced this is a terrible idea and simultaneously more motivated to keep going

Give in to the urge

Every time the god of software weeps our springs are replenished and our fields yield bountiful harvests

Go further and make it turing complete somehow

Forget compile time constant, make it something we can golf in :p

Not sure if I'd rather golf in YAML or slowly be eaten by housecats

With that attitude the house cats would spit you out :p

Can cats spit?

@Ginger

So somehow there’s an extreme heavy rain warning in Saudi Arabia

but only in the west

i thought that country was basically a desert

Desert climates can still get rain, and it does tend to come in very rare and very heavy downpours at least in my experience

That also makes flash flooding a big issue

@lyxal yes

No way, this is so cool

Our first assignment for this hardware security class is just "here's SSH access to a server, use spectre to get xyz privileged data"

Pro tip: Don't cause a infinite loop in a Rust macro

It seems to prevent vscode from saving other files

Hmm it seems to have started about 20 different rustc processes

@mousetail As per the usual

I have a radical idea

a CPU that physically modifies its own circuitry

you're not wrong that it's radical

Is that not just a FPGA?

^

I've been thinking for a while how interesting an FPGA-based architecture would be though

I don't really understand FPGAs well enough to know what the downsides would be, though

@Ginger i have a question about your sechat library

try:
    while True:
            pass
finally:
    bot.leaveAllRooms()

why do you need this code?

...yeah isn't that a busy loop?

that looks like v1 code

so I can't really help, v1 was a mess

yet it's still in the v2 docs

v2 doesn't have docs :p

github.com/gingershaped/sechat/blob/v2/docs/source/example.rst

then remove the docs folder :p

oh, I thought I deleted that

whoops

You need an apple

An apples a day keeps the docs away

@Ginger v1 works tho

@RydwolfPrograms Google hates this one weird trick Macbook users use

I often don't care when government agencies want my personal info

i would just hand it over

@TheEmptyStringPhotographer KeyboardInterrupt

huh

@pxeger For a moment I thought you were trying to KeyboardInnterupt me as if I was a program.

@RydwolfPrograms That's super cool actually

@RydwolfPrograms FPGAs are highly parallelizable, so something like finding the minimum of a list is O(log n) rather than O(n). The downsides are that the reprogrammability requires more chip space (since each line has to have a bunch of transistors on it) and that mathematical operations and memory accesses tend to be slower. The FPGA we referenced in my FPGA design class had an ARM coprocessor

Ooh I got a flush+reload attack to work reliably!!

(There's three CTFs, increasing in difficulty)

Looks to have 99.6% accuracy

Lemme set it to run a few more rounds of timing accesses to increase the reliability

🤣🤣🤣

@TheEmptyStringPhotographer barely

@Ginger does code that used v1 work if v1 is switched with v2?

no

@Ginger Looking at the diffs, i think i would only need to change login to authenticate, right?

Well I certainly hope that's the case...

and maybe leaving rooms to closing rooms

@Bbrk24 I assume it's only log(n) if you stay within the width of the FPGA

@Bbrk24 probably in C:\Program Files

I have slack installed but I'm on linux

I have an idea for a game

You and all of the other players start with a couple cards. They can do simple things like heal, attack other players, etc.

Each card has a timeout associated with it

And an additional action, rolling for a new card, would have a very high timeout (on the order of magnitude of hours, vs. like 10 minutes for playing a common card)

Once a card is used, it isn't back in your deck for 24 hours, so you start off only doing a couple of actions in a day then rolling for one or two new cards, but gradually work your way towards being able to use dozens of cards in a day

That's the opposite of how most games in this genre work

You can use your cards on any other player, or a tower they've built. Towers can be auras (e.g., very slow regeneration, or damage to the last player who attacked), or storehouses which let you hold stuff

@RydwolfPrograms I expected the time out to be in like rounds, not real time

@RydwolfPrograms Oh is this a deckbuilder RTS video game? That makes more sense then

I thought you meant like a physical TCG type of thing

Sorta a hybrid

Would be so goofy if it was physical

if you’re going by real time and not rounds, there would be way too many concurrent timers to manage it in real life

Like you'd just have to have a designated table to play on for like a month, and people ducking in to just move like two cards then leaving

And all four walls and the ceiling are just covered in little kitchen timers stuck on with command strips

Pffffffff

I read those Fs as Rs from a distance and I was like when did unrelated become a cat lol

Like two weeks ago

Honestly, I'd enjoy that kinda game for irl :P

same

Me and my gaming group would play the shit out of it :P

@Bbrk24 try installing spy software or a spy device on the computer

@emanresuA I have a horrible cat allergy, so it's funny to imagine just needing prescription antihistamines alongside the hormones :P

:3

@Bbrk24 installed slack on my windows vm just to see where it is, on my windows its living in C:\Users\<USER>\AppData\Local\slack\app-4.39.95\slack.exe

@UnrelatedString my gf calls HRT "anti-cis-tamines" sometimes making this imaginary scenario even funnier :p

glorious

when someone comes out as transfem the universe flips a coin to decide between catgirl and puppygirl

:3

it would not seem to be a fair coin

Can confirm :3

Can’t you use just a transistor as an and gate?

@hyper-neutrino Have you seen this actual note in a published paper? :P

haha no i have not :p

@Seggan I’ll keep that in mind if need be

@TheEmptyStringPhotographer A single transistor can’t give both a good 0 and a good 1. NMOS is strong 0 but weak 1; PMOS is weak 0 but strong 1. That’s one of two reasons why CMOS is so common even though it’s more transistors

The other reason is that CMOS needs basically zero current to work so you can run it on way less power

@Bbrk24 what is CMOS then

ah

Rate my DSL:

    Builtin {
        token: '[',
        template: fragment!(
            "
            const {arr:local} = [];
            { inner }
        "
        ),
        brachet_handlers: &[BracketHandler {
            output_handler: Some(half_fragment!(
                "
                {arr:local}.push({value:in});
            "
            )),
            fragment: fragment!(
                "
                const {out:out} = {arr:local};
                {inner}
                "
            ),
        }],

brachet?

its when your brackets dont ratchet

@cairdcoinheringaahing Reading this while trying to walk down stairs was, in hindsight, a poor idea

It's been a while since I've had a time-on-hardcore-drugs moment but I just read that Dobbs was in 2022 and NO WAY was that two years ago???

2022 is next year :)

rydwolf profile update???

Fake news

(yeah, figured I'd modernize :p)

gonna spend the next two weeks being confused about who you are lmao

Hi, I'm new here. What's a golf?

a stick that you hit people with, I think

now I feel like I should change my profile

So I'm assuming a code golf is when you use that stick on your monitor? Like 'cause of the code?

Sounds right up my alley

yep exactly

Also TIL your pfp doesn't have to be square, and people can remove the ?s=128 to see the whole thing

WHAT

that's cursed

@rydwolf no no that's bowling

Golf no have alleys

Golf has greenways

frick, got it wrong already. I'm new here, go easy on me

You're not new here

You're rydwolf

(that's a common mistake beginners make, you'll get used to it)

I also made a new GitHub since I don't want to be stuck with the name Radvylf but also don't want to go through the effort of changing my GH again lol

Also, welcome to the all lowercase username club :p

I've been considering it for a while :p

Capitals are so last year

I'm still finding places with links to my old GH username lol

I'm an anticapitalist after all

Also y'all will be sad to learn my hair is short again lol

Air Force got mad at me

rydwolf party balloon enjoyer confirmed

definitely not just a multiple-month-old balloon from high school graduation I was too lazy to throw out

(I was seriously impressed by its longevity though)

fool that you are, for you linked your Instagram account from your GH account

now if I could just remember what I called that account I made last time...

And his email

Y'all are free to follow me btw lol

I've never instad a gram in my life

Someone will peer pressure you into it eventually

I've been on both ends of that cycle lol

My friends pressured me to get it at the start of 12th grade, and at graduation I pressured another of my friends to get it :p

can't be peer pressured if you have no peers 😎

@lyxal (this is a reference to the fact he now has an among us ascii art sitting in his inbox)

It's probably one of the better decisions I've made though, being able to keep up with IRL friends and school/community stuff is so like, the opposite of isolating

and frankly I would like my face off the internet (at least for now)

on account of, yknow

(You don't need your face, plenty of my friends just have doodles as their pfps)

Glad gmail's warning me that this isn't private, internal, RTO corporate amogus communications

The emoji suggestion lmao

truly we are living in an age of wonders

ඞ

sus sis 😳

@lyxal yknow how you hear text in your head as you read it? I hear this character as the round start sfx

ඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞ

Enjoy the head noise

(took me multiple minutes to send that because it's apparently called "flushed face" which is impossible to guess and then a Chrome OS update broke the emoji picker by making it remove focus from the text box you're trying to insert it into >:|)

@rydwolf no it's hoh sis

@lyxal the screams

@lyxal no it's not, go get a joj

Hey I'll have you know I did the joj 15 times over again

one hundred percent unsatisfied

@rydwolf probably best to make the switch while you can

I like how your "modernization" effort conveniently avoided changing your website :p

It's not afternoon, is it?

it is here

it's 9:26am hardly afternoon

@rydwolf lmao what the heck

@hyper-neutrino Pffffffffffffffffffffff

@rydwolf Oh.

@Seggan I just so happen to have had a lecture on this like a week ago :P

Using complementary "pull-up" and "pull-down" circuits of MOS transistors (NMOS and PMOS)

@Ginger Bakde potatto is timeless

Since as Bbrk mentioned, NMOS suck at high and PMOS suck at low

So you make pieces out of only one type that connect to either power or ground

And make sure to arrange it so for any input you have exactly one of those connected to the output

@att looks like sizes under 1000 crop to square

@Ginger 🤝

i only got pressured into fb

...how FB

Like of all the platforms to get peer pressured into

What kinds of peers...???

Or was this ages ago

picking out a tombstone rn

F

but yeah fb was the platform