The Nineteenth Byte

emanresu A

00:07

eval(`
if (typeof module !== "undefined") {
    module.exports = halfwit2;
} else {
    globalThis.halfwit2 = halfwit2;
}
`);

Webpack = pain

Steffan

Ever seen Parcel?

I use it constantly

Because webpack is pain

LDMC: Try to fumble through my docs and make a 12x12 matrix of the multiplication table

emanresu A

Does it have a typescript plugin?

Steffan

It has many types that it can handle

Yes

parceljs.org/docs

It's become very popular within the last years

What's cool is, let's say you have an html file, you can just script src to the TS file and it will do everything. It's very siple to set up

Or link to an image and it will compress it and stuff

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00:21

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Q: Triangle area from side lengths

Output the area \$A\$ of a triangle given its side lengths \$a, b, c\$ as inputs. This can be computed using Heron's formula: $$ A=\sqrt{s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)}\textrm{, where } s=\frac{a+b+c}{2}.$$ This can be written in various ways, such as $$ A= \frac{1}{4}\sqrt{(a+b+c)(-a+b+c)(a-b+c)(a+b-c)}$$ $$ ...

OldSandboxPosts

01:00

Sandbox posts last active a week ago: Find all matches for the digit pattern

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01:21

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Make CIGAR from two strings In the field of genomics, CIGAR (Concise Idiosyncratic Gapped Alignment Report) strings are sometimes used to indicate how a DNA sequence aligns to a reference sequence of DNA. CIGAR strings are sequences of <operation, length> pairs. An operation can be M, meaning "match

thejonymyster

challenge idea: decide when to activate star power in (simplified) guitar hero to get the most points

lyxal

so no sustains/taps/HOPOs?

and no strum notes either?

thejonymyster

wait, do all of those have different impacts on score?

i know sustains are different cause you can wammy and the way they arent like, discrete

lyxal

I was wondering what you meant by simplified guitar hero

thejonymyster

good point i guess the parts relevant to the challenge dont need major simplification

lyxal

01:33

man so hard not to call it clone hero

thejonymyster

lol do it it dont mattah

code hero

lyxal

all I know is clone hero and soundclown mash ups :p

NoHaxJustRadvylf

Well RIP my browser history
Apparently every time you update the `location.hash` on a local file, it adds a new history entry, since it's always considered cross-domain even in the same file

This goes on for hours

thejonymyster

oh god lol

NoHaxJustRadvylf

I think I'm just gonna have to nuke the past week lol

lyxal

01:35

@NoHaxJustRadvylf You Fool, you Blongus, you absolute utter Clampongus.

NoHaxJustRadvylf

Which I hate doing since I rely way too heavily on autocomplete suggestions to efficiently navigate the blagoblag

thejonymyster

@lyxal for simplicity, i guess id just say that only regular notes and sustains exist. would it make sense to only have one note as well? or does having different notes playing at the same time make the challenge better :P

lyxal

@thejonymyster for a challenge, probably one note at a time. Probably no chords

thejonymyster

sad! but yea fair

lyxal

meaning I can't suggest soulless 4 as a test case, but oh well

thejonymyster

01:37

literally whats the point then

lyxal

btw I don't actually play GH/CH - I get my game knowledge from watching streamers lol

thejonymyster

i play gh casually but i only was thinking about this as a challenge cause i was watching acai's vid lol

he was like, timing a specific moment to do star power

and i was like "really? i guess it does make a difference when you do it, yeah"

lyxal

@thejonymyster well yeah. It's how someone can FC a meme chart and still take the L to someone with a -15 of the same chart

thejonymyster

right gfsdg

Unrelated String

@Zionmyceliaadamancy i almost want to say there's some fungeoid that did it first but i haven't ever really gotten into 2d langs

aketon

01:55

help

how

NoHaxJustRadvylf

Does jQuery have .innerHTML?

aketon

its not jquery

function $(el){
return document.querySelector(el);
}

NoHaxJustRadvylf

Check what $("#display") is just in case

Your function might be being overridden with jQuery

Chrome's console does that, even

Although I'd expect undefined not '' though...

aketon

$("#display").innerHTML = '<span style="color: #3063ec>"i"</span>'; $("#display").innerHTML returns '<span style="color: #3063ec>" i"<="" span=""></span>'.........

what is happening

NoHaxJustRadvylf

Missing closing "?

aketon

01:58

@NoHaxJustRadvylf I dont have JQuery linked

NoHaxJustRadvylf

@NoHaxJustRadvylf Don't see what that would change though

tybocopperkettle

@aketon They're saying that chrome does that anyway I think

aketon

@NoHaxJustRadvylf oh yeah there is

Seggan

@NoHaxJustRadvylf no

aketon

Omg im stupid

tybocopperkettle

02:00

Could I get some final opinions on this? It's been in the sandbox for a few days.

NoHaxJustRadvylf

It seems boring and likely a near-dupe

tybocopperkettle

Dupe? Of what?

NoHaxJustRadvylf

Checking for two vowels in a row is maybe slightly interesting but probably a near-dupe, and the diacritic check is just going to be containsing a combining diacritic character in a normalized string

@tybocopperkettle Not an exact dupe, but as in it doesn't add much new

tybocopperkettle

True

PyGamer0

03:21

@DLosc oh ok thanks

emanresu A

04:37

@Steffan Critical problem: It doesn't handle top-level await

Works fine when I manually edit in an async, but that's still annoying

Bubbler

05:02

maybe try fixes here near the bottom

emanresu A

Ah well, I just went back to webpack

Bubbler

doing a js project does require expert-level google skills

emanresu A

let fs = require('fs');
let text = fs.readFileSync('./dist/bundle.js', 'utf8');
eval(text);
module.exports = halfwit2;

Bubbler

well yeah, that's certainly an option :P

emanresu A

I need top-level await to load the Jelly dictionary, and can't be bothered finding a way around that

I should probably just store the dictionary somewhere

Unrelated String

05:15

yeah

Bubbler

if you don't have i/o tasks to run and wait for in parallel, there's little point in using async btw

emanresu A

05:43

CMC: Remove every third item of a list

lyxal

can we assume all positive integers?

emanresu A

sure

lyxal

Vyxal: 0p⁽0 3$Ṁꜝ

Try it Online!

emanresu A

I have 6

Three different 6-byters in fact

Found a 4

emanresu A

06:03

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Q: Can we doubt all knowledge?

Can we doubt all knowledge from all sources (perception, reports, and reason)? Regarding doubting reason, reason can't be proven, it is preceived and judged instantly by our logic, but what if our logic is not true? Did anyone ever doubt that much? What definitely proves or disporves his/her doub...

philosophy-of-religion knowledge proof

Someone's getting existential

@lyxal żǒTİ

emanresu A

06:29

WHYYYY does webpack have to return my interpreter wrapped in a promise, Symbol and default getter that error when I try to use them?

Bubbler

js actively hating emanresuA

emanresu A

08:34

I've figured it out

It's a natural consequence of having and using top-level await

@Steffan Does Chocolate have docs?

pxeger

10:14

15 hours ago, by Steffan

anyway my chocolate docs are up to date now. online interpreter if someone wants to try it

PyGamer0

10:33

@Bubbler lol

thejonymyster

12:22

@lyxal why does that make a difference? :O

lyxal

because I wanted to use the "keep only truthy things" element :p

thejonymyster

ahh

lyxal

I insert 0s at every 3rd item and remove them

thejonymyster

i immediately know your approach then lol

yeah

my approach with posints would be to do some like

filter by index + 1 mod 3

lyxal

filter by index?

nah nah I literally replace each third item with 0

thejonymyster

12:28

right, thats different from yours lol

lyxal

lmao

thejonymyster

i just knew you were using 0 falsiness lol

maybe "approach" was too strong a word :P

in any case i will submit that anyway

@emanresuA js, 27 bytes: x=>x.filter((_,i)=>(i+1)%3)

thought: separate operator for "mod(x+1,y)" because that happens when you 0 index gfsdg

thejonymyster

12:49

hm. so i know sometimes when a language has a builtin function that solves a challenge, the answer is posted as nameoffunction, rather than x=>nameoffunction(x) or whatever

can someone run by me why that wouldnt work for like, dot operator functions?

e.g. x=>x.toLowerCase() becomes .toLowerCase()

i have a few half baked ideas as to why not

Seggan

it depends on the function reference syntax of the language

i.e. the (s) -> s.toLowerCase() in Java as a reference is String::toLowerCase()

thejonymyster

14:12

I just got ratelimited for regular SE browsing, what the heck :D is the rate limit that low

NoHaxJustRadvylf

14:36

@emanresuA Philosophy.SE is a 50/50 mix between rigorous questions about logic and the vaguest shower thought garbage imaginable

@thejonymyster Some things like searching have an especially low rate limit. I still wouldn't think a human would be able to reach it though.

@thejonymyster In most existing languages that's a syntax error, submitting nameoffunction works because if you do f=nameoffunction you get a usable f(x). No reason you couldn't make a language that works that way though.

It would just be rather cursed

Since for a f = .toLowerCase you don't know what type you're applying it to later on

pxeger

In Ruby you can sort of use symbols as anonymous functions, like [1, 2, 3].map(&:to_s) == ["1", "2", "3"]

The symbol is :to_s

user

Then there are languages where foo(x) is more or less the same thing as x.foo

pxeger

and f = :to_s; [1, 2, 3].map(&f) works

and & is just Ruby's special way of passing function references

it's the same with actual anonymous functions, f = ->{_1.to_s}; [1, 2, 3].map(&f)

but you can't call symbols directly like you can with actual functions

(->{_1.to_s}).(1) == "1"

but (:to_s).(1) gives an error

So can symbols alone be given as answers? I don't know

thejonymyster

@NoHaxJustRadvylf ok so thats sort of what i was thinking, function submissions are about the function being like, a valid object / element in your language, rather than a snippet

NoHaxJustRadvylf

Yeah

thejonymyster

14:48

@NoHaxJustRadvylf well apparently i did :P

NoHaxJustRadvylf

Are you at home or somewhere where you might be sharing an IP address?

thejonymyster

im at work, but nobody else here goes on SE

because theyre all old and this is an air conditioning company

(self doxxed)

NoHaxJustRadvylf

thejonymyster knows old people confirmed :ooo

thejonymyster

theres this one thing i write on a lot of documents as shorthand, involving emailing someone i work with,

its kind of a fun string and would be a fun name for a thing, but i found that if i google it along with my state, it gives my place of work

which like, nobody really cares and im not worried about assassination attempts or anything but like... i dont like to tempt fate too much :P

idk its a combination of internet safety and insane paranoia

NoHaxJustRadvylf

Yeah, I'm like 90% sure none of y'all are assassins, but since TNB's a public room you never know who'll come across it later

thejonymyster

14:54

yeah

is there some other reason a shared IP would cause problems even if nobody else is using it for the same site?

NoHaxJustRadvylf

I can't image there would be

thejonymyster

then (kahoot voice) was i toooo fast?

idk i guess i do switch pages and open a lot of links p fast

NoHaxJustRadvylf

Switch statements are so cursed

1. Each case should be its own block. A const in one case shouldn't cause errors when you make a const with the same name in another case

user

I can't wait for switch expressions with real proper pattern matching in Java

Oh this is JS

NoHaxJustRadvylf

2. Automatically falling to the next case is the cause of a ton of bugs. You should need to specifically tell it to fall or continue or something

user

15:08

Actually nvm this is a problem with every C-like language with switch statements, having to break is so dumb

PyGamer0

yeah

only useful in certain cases

in flax, Jul 24 at 15:57, by PyGamer0

feebdcakc?

thejonymyster

@PyGamer0 how are you delimiting explicit lists? spaces or commas or something else?

PyGamer0

spaces or commas your wish lol

Seggan

@NoHaxJustRadvylf same in java

thejonymyster

so (1 2 3) and (1,2,3) or (1, 2, 3) would all be valid lists?

Seggan

15:15

@user not in kotlin

user

Don't insult Kotlin, its when is not a switch statement

It's proper pattern matching (and more), the way it should be

PyGamer0

@thejonymyster including (1+2+3+4), really anything can be the space delimiter :P

flax, 25 bytes: [1+2+3][1,2,3,5][1 2 3 4]

user

Oh god that's cursed

PyGamer0

(^^ older version)

Seggan

@user this

@PyGamer0 wait so you only got ints and lists?

similar to a lang i had earlier

PyGamer0

15:18

yeah

Strings are useless.

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thejonymyster

@PyGamer0 wait what why lol

Seggan

i think the parser just parses while there are digits then ignores non digits

PyGamer0

@thejonymyster i dunno

it do be like that

thejonymyster

my plan with the lang im working on is to have two list delimiters, one thats really high precedence and one thats really low precedence

PyGamer0

@thejonymyster interesting....

thejonymyster

15:24

LDQ: which makes more sense btw as a 2d array: 1 2 3,4 5 6,7 8 9 or 1,2,3 4,5,6 7,8,9

result being

1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9

Seggan

#2

thejonymyster

hm, third option: those are terrible choices for the symbols, my idea for a better pair of delimiters is...

Seggan

i just realized something

weve been naming our recent langs from plants

@PyGamer0 what does ∞ do?

thejonymyster

@Seggan should i hop on this bandwagon once my lang is in presentable form

i am still thinking about names :P

Seggan

sure

thejonymyster

15:35

yippii

Seggan

chocolate, fig, flax

thejonymyster

i had no idea flax was a plant

Seggan

tho originally fig wasnt intended to be named after a plant

Flax

Flax, also known as common flax or linseed, is a flowering plant, Linum usitatissimum, in the family Linaceae. It is cultivated as a food and fiber crop in regions of the world with temperate climates. Textiles made from flax are known in Western countries as linen and are traditionally used for bed sheets, underclothes, and table linen. Its oil is known as linseed oil. In addition to referring to the plant, the word "flax" may refer to the unspun fibers of the flax plant. The plant species is known only as a cultivated plant and appears to have been domesticated just once from the wild species...

thejonymyster

omg linseed

that one user is working on a lang called lin

Seggan

lol

more plant langs

argh muscle memory

thejonymyster

15:38

actually i thought of a really stupid name idea

let me make sure it makes sense before i say anything else though

Seggan

chocofiglinflax?

thejonymyster

wow how did you guess exactly what i was thinking :P

Seggan

seriously?

thejonymyster

no lol

nah ive got a dumb pun in mind, but im trying to figure out if the joke actually relates to something unique abt the lang :think:

every operator in the language has variable arity (i forget the term) and the way you take multiple args to the operator is using it as a delimiter for the args

so x&y&z is parsed as [&: x, y, z]

PyGamer0

@Seggan make an infinite list by cycling

thejonymyster

15:45

im not sure how significant this detail is though, or whether itd be worth making the lang name a pun off of it

Seggan

@PyGamer0 ah

PyGamer0

@Seggan recent, how recent do you think flax is?

thejonymyster

specifically: "Everybody to Delimit" :P

Seggan

@thejonymyster infix language?

thejonymyster

yes lol

PyGamer0

15:46

^^^^ just curious :P

thejonymyster

but i am planning on having like

special cases for if you have no left arg or no right arg n stuff

PyGamer0

Birth of flax :P

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Seggan

@PyGamer0 erm a few months?

yikes

thejonymyster

like +1 2 3 would be "add nothing to the list [1,2,3]" but thats silly, so i was gonna make it be "reduce [1,2,3] by +"

PyGamer0

this was one month after i stopped working on dinoux

i started exploring the tacit zone without finishing my stack language

i got bored of dinoux

in fact you can see what i did with the previous language here:

dead room

shhh nothing to see here

it was the language with infix support

i even made fun of vyxal for not having infix support lol

chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=infix&user=&room=106764

Seggan

16:03

i wanna finish fig and then make a bunch of variants based on different paradigms and see which is golfiest

infig is not very golfy, i tried

havent tried tactfig or stackfig

maybe arfig

or tapfig

figlog

nah that needs a whole different builtin set

NoHaxJustRadvylf

Idea: BF but you can increment and decrement the max cell size

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Find The Average String code-golf string Inspired by this Your task today: given two strings, find the string with the lowest average Levenshtein distance to the input strings. For example, using Steffan and Seggan, the average string will be Steggan. It is distance 2 from Steffan (replace the ...

thejonymyster

16:47

@NoHaxJustRadvylf this and you dont get -

NoHaxJustRadvylf

Ooh +1

mathcat

Hi guis

I'm somewhere in somewhere and my plane is about to leave

I might not be active for about 1 month

plz don't steal my rep thanks

NoHaxJustRadvylf

17:03

@mathcat You should put your rep in a vault to protect it. I've got a spare one lying around you can borrow (it's full of limbs though)

Zion mycelia adamancy

Dec 15, 2016 at 19:34, by Dennis

> A friendly message from The Name of All that is Good and Holy: Hello! This is The Name of All that is Good and Holy. Before you think of making your own extension to this language, here's another idea for you to consider: Don't! For the love of me, please don't make another derivative of this language! Unless you have something truly new to contribute, it's been done a million times before and will probably make it worse than the original.

DLosc

@thejonymyster I... don't know, actually. I could see it either way: either space (i.e. no delimiter) binds more tightly than any operator, like in Haskell, or the runs with no space are visual units and thus comma binds more tightly.

Another option: 1,2,3;4,5,6;7,8,9. Now that I look at it, tho, it's kind of hard to see the difference between , and ; at a glance.

NoHaxJustRadvylf

@Zionmyceliaadamancy Sure, it's a pretty minor change, and trivial BF variants are extremely common and rather boring, but...actually I have no defense for it lol

BF derivatives are good "I want to make something today even if it's not all that good" langs though :p

DLosc

Has anybody ever succeeded in making a tape-based language that's not just "BF but different"?

I guess Turing Machine Code

NoHaxJustRadvylf

And also the part of my brain that designs interesting language features has kind of disintegrated after a week straight of this:

thejonymyster

17:21

@DLosc Yeah, both of the things you mentioned were running through my mind too lol

NoHaxJustRadvylf

@thejonymyster IMO they're both bad

DLosc

1‿2‿3,4‿5‿6,7‿8‿9

NoHaxJustRadvylf

Is there any reason you're not doing it like [1 2 3] [4 5 6] [7 8 9]?

That's easier to visually parse, easier to extend to higher dimensions, and more familiar to most people

PyGamer0

@NoHaxJustRadvylf wow that looks very cool

NoHaxJustRadvylf

Thanks :D

PyGamer0

17:30

@NoHaxJustRadvylf i think to make it golfier

NoHaxJustRadvylf

Ah, maybe. Although there's better ways of doing that IMO (like not having an array literal syntax at all)

Seggan

@NoHaxJustRadvylf i concur with pygamer

NoHaxJustRadvylf

Best array literal syntax is just two operators you probably already have: pair and append

For pre/postfix and stack based, at least. Maybe in tacit it could be worth it.

Seggan

imo its worth it in prefix as well

fig has a "collect to list" variadic op

NoHaxJustRadvylf

Something like that could be useful, yeah, depending on the syntax. But the classic [1 2 3]-type syntax costs n + 1 additional chars per item, which is way more than that or pair-append would.

DLosc

17:42

Is it? Suppose pair is , and append is ;. Then with left-associative infix operators of the same precedence, you'd have 1,2;3,(4,5;6);(7,8;9). My guess is that different precedences or associativities would simply lead to putting the parentheses somewhere else.

A lot depends on whether you need a separator between consecutive values when there's no operator between them.

NoHaxJustRadvylf

@DLosc You're using infix, that's the problem

Prefix/postfix/stack-based don't need parentheses at all

12,3;45,6;,78,9;;

Although yeah if you need a separator between the digits it's a lot longer

That's a good point

Joining individual digits into numbers just doesn't really make sense for golfing languages though IMO

Seggan

????

it makes perfect sense

NoHaxJustRadvylf

No, it's horrendously ungolfy

Have a couple single byte number literals, sure, but for anything bigger than like 8 or 10 or 16, just have a digraph that covers all the two digit numbers and some common three-or-more digit ones

And then for bigger numbers you'll usually have a shorter way of generating them anyway, like number compression or multiplying factors

And it doesn't even have to cost more operators. If you replace, say, 9 (the least common single digit number used in golfed code) with a digraph operator, the number 9 costs exactly one more byte, but literally every other number becomes the same size or shorter.

DLosc

@NoHaxJustRadvylf Is 9 the least common? I'd've thought it might see more use due to being one less than 10.

NoHaxJustRadvylf

17:58

Same here, but surprisingly it's less common, at least in JS and Jelly

thejonymyster

@NoHaxJustRadvylf well that does work, im looking at the option of having a second list delimiter at a different precedence level

@NoHaxJustRadvylf so excited for this always. your brain's integrity is a price im willing to pay

DLosc

> Somebody else paying a price is a price I'm willing to pay

Hmm

Site's down, BTW

Steffan

same here

thejonymyster

@NoHaxJustRadvylf my lang is entirely infix so that may be the problem yes lol

NoHaxJustRadvylf

Oh lol

DLosc

18:07

Site's back

thejonymyster

but like important to note that like [1 2 3] isnt the list, 1 2 3 is

DLosc

@thejonymyster Infix gang represent

thejonymyster

because its 1, 2, and 3 delimited by the "enlist" operator, which is a space :P

Seggan

@DLosc no

DLosc

@Seggan s/$/t anymore/

NoHaxJustRadvylf

18:09

@thejonymyster So you have like, different infix list operators for different ranks?

thejonymyster

thats what im considering, yeah

NoHaxJustRadvylf

Maybe you could do something like a consistent one, and a second operator that tells it to go up/down a level

Not sure if that would work

thejonymyster

then i was like "hmm would comma be higher precedence or space?" which is when i asked the 2d array question

DLosc

@thejonymyster I'm almost positive there's a practical language that has this. Maybe Julia?

Neil

just use two spaces to delimit rows

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

extends naturally to multidimensional arrays

DLosc

18:18

Yes, it's Julia (though it has to be wrapped in square brackets): [1 2 3;4 5 6;7 8 9]

NoHaxJustRadvylf

If golfiness isn't a concern ^^ is probably the best option

DLosc

If golfiness isn't a concern, I'd say wrapping each level in [ ] is the best option. Once you get past two, trying to count how many spaces in a row there are sounds unnecessarily difficult.

Seggan

@NoHaxJustRadvylf i think some obscure math notation had this

DLosc

@DLosc Same syntax is used in MATLAB (which is probably where Julia got it from).

user

@Neil Wouldn't it be really hard to read when you have three dimensions and are writing on multiple lines?

Also really easy to mess up

thejonymyster

18:46

@Neil that would just be a 1 dimensional array with empty list items :P

@DLosc what doesnt julia have

Neil

@thejonymyster you won't be able to distinguish between an empty list item or a list item that's an empty list anyway

thejonymyster

misread

a list item that was an empty list could just be ()

or like

hm

im not actually sure my lang supports empty lists atm :P

DLosc

19:17

@thejonymyster Which, in a way, is the problem I have with the language: it throws all kinds of function overloads into the global namespace together, which makes it hard to find the one you want. (Maybe there's a better way that I haven't encountered.)

emanresu A

19:35

@thejonymyster -~i

user

19:48

@DLosc Wow, that looks daunting. Isn't there something like Hoogle for Julia?

DLosc

IDK, which is why I said maybe there's a better way.

Though even if there were, that wouldn't help if you're looking for an overload that you've defined yourself.

@emanresuA BQN, 11 bytes: (2>3|↕∘≠)⊸/

Unrelated String

every month i become more radicalized against overloading :P

DLosc

If I ever make a golfing library for BQN, ↕∘≠ is gonna be the first builtin I add

@UnrelatedString See, I really like overloading, I just think there's gotta be a better way to handle it than dumping everything in the same namespace.

Unrelated String

typeclasses

and typeclass-adjacent implementations

emanresu A

^

Unrelated String

19:55

like python's dunders are honestly an alright way of doing it

emanresu A

Ruby's are better

DLosc

@UnrelatedString I've heard the term before, but I don't actually know what that is. Do you have a short explanation?

emanresu A

__add__

DLosc

Not dunders, typeclasses

Unrelated String

learnyouahaskell.com/types-and-typeclasses#typeclasses-101

emanresu A

19:57

Never mind :P

thejonymyster

@emanresuA oh does that solve the order of operations issue? awesomesauce?

DLosc

@UnrelatedString "Like Java interfaces, only better." Got it.

thejonymyster

cNt test rn

user

@UnrelatedString Well, typeclasses kinda dump everything in the same namespace

Unrelated String

the fundamental idea being that instead of having discrete overloads of individual functions you have single functions that are implemented differently for individual types on the types' side

user

19:59

Whereas with Java, you'd have a separate add method on each class

DLosc

@UnrelatedString ... Okay, I think I understood that. (Had to get my brain out of Python land and into non-object-oriented, overloadable-functions Haskell land.)

So if you define a type and you put it in the Show typeclass, the compiler will complain unless you've also overloaded the show function to handle arguments of your new type?

Zion mycelia adamancy

@thejonymyster CMC: Given a string consisting of letters and spaces, replace any uppercase letter with an a followed by the lowercase version of that letter. E.g. "cNt test rn" -> "cant test rn" and "CMC" -> "acamac"

Similar to the inverse of this

DLosc

@Zionmyceliaadamancy Acc!!, 73 bytes

Zion mycelia adamancy

@Zionmyceliaadamancy 13 bytes in Jelly. Stupid Œu wrapping characters :/

@Zionmyceliaadamancy wait, this doesn't work cause of spaces

DLosc

20:15

@Zionmyceliaadamancy Pip, 10 bytes: aRXU'a.LC_

emanresu A

Vyxal, 7 bytes -vyxal.pythonanywhere.com/…

Zion mycelia adamancy

@Zionmyceliaadamancy wait, yes it does :/

emanresu A

Look ma, no Unicode

Zion mycelia adamancy

@emanresuA I'm usually lax with I/O format, but not this lax :P

Also, I think you missed that you replace the uppercase with the lowercase

@Zionmyceliaadamancy Jelly, 10 bytes

Unrelated String

20:33

another 10; genuinely can't tell why it needs the ¹

thejonymyster

@Zionmyceliaadamancy it even happened for the same reason, except that im on mobile, so shift is a lock character and goes away after you type the char

Zion mycelia adamancy

@UnrelatedString Otherwise, it's a 2,2,0,2 pattern in the dyadic chain, which is broken up as (2,2),(0,2)

remember, 2,2,0 isn't a pattern

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isn't (2,2,0) supposed to take precedence

couidl have sworn it was lmao

oh the lcc thing

lmao

Zion mycelia adamancy

Try it online!

@UnrelatedString 2,2,0 is broken down as (2),(2,0)

Unrelated String

one of these days i should actually gaze into the abyss of the chain parsing code

because it is surprising that it wouldn't greedily parse that as (2,2),(0)

Zion mycelia adamancy

20:40

@UnrelatedString The abyss stares back :P

Stupid markdown

Unrelated String

so the tutorial table actually is accurate

lccs just can't stop fucking with me

Zion mycelia adamancy

if arities(chain[0:3]) == [2, 2, 0] and leading_nilad(chain[2:]):
	ret = dyadic_link(chain[1], (dyadic_link(chain[0], (ret, rarg)), niladic_link(chain[2])))
	chain = chain[3:]

Because 0,2 isn't an LCC, the 2,2,0 pattern isn't matched :P

Unrelated String

yep :P

it is kinda funny that 2,2,0 is basically a failsafe for when the alternative would be an unparseable nilad, when otherwise 2,0 has "precedence" over 0,2

Strings are useless.

Birth of flax :P

dead room

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