The Nineteenth Byte

PyGamer0

17:04

@RadvylfPrograms wth

use - you abnormal vylf

:P

pxeger

> Uncaught TypeError: Error resolving module specifier “three”. Relative module specifiers must start with “./”, “../” or “/”.

@GingerIndustries same error

Radvylf Programs

@PyGamer0 Hey, blame the IETF, not me

Ginger Industries

hello world

@pxeger dunno, I already fixed it

DLosc

17:19

@BgilMidol This is Foo ;)

Bgil Midol

@DLosc 05ab1e intended

pxeger

@GingerIndustries Nope, same error

Firefox 98

DLosc

17:37

status-repro

Works on Chrome

Bgil Midol

Works on Edge

Ginger Industries

status-inprogress

mathcat

[Status-How do I do cool tag stuff in chat???

Ginger Industries

@mathcat [tag:tagname]

mathcat

status-complete

nice

Ginger Industries

17:48

status-norepro

It works fine for me

mathcat

status-nonrepro-too

Ginger Industries

repl.co is down it seems

DLosc

@GingerIndustries I'm still getting Uncaught TypeError on Firefox

Ginger Industries

try a hard refresh

DLosc

I did

Ginger Industries

17:56

¯\_(ಠ_ಠ)_/¯

hyper-neutrino

18:09

why the fuck is discord out again

Radvylf Programs

SOCK² 2.0 is working :D

It now only forwards traffic to sites that are actually blocked, and if it detects a site isn't blocked, it just forwards it to a socks proxy on the same machine (effectively removing the proxy entirely for that site)

mathcat

@RadvylfPrograms Strange, my socks always work.

I just put them on

SegFaultPlus4

18:23

@BgilMidol python

Bgil Midol

@SegFaultPlus4 no, it outputs nothing

SegFaultPlus4

@hyper-neutrino HN you have to let discord go, it went down forever a year ago

@BgilMidol julia

Bgil Midol

nope

Radvylf Programs

18:39

SOCK² can now almost load Reddit before the bandwidth gets throttled and everything explodes

Which is what I use as my test since...

blocking: reddit.com
blocking: reddit.com
blocking: www.reddit.com
blocking: www.redditstatic.com
blocking: gql.reddit.com
blocking: gql.reddit.com
blocking: oauth.reddit.com
blocking: oauth.reddit.com
blocking: www.redditmedia.com
blocking: oauth.reddit.com
blocking: v.redd.it
blocking: v.redd.it
ws.throw: [object Object]
ws.throw: [object Object]
blocking: styles.redditmedia.com
blocking: a.thumbs.redditmedia.com
blocking: b.thumbs.redditmedia.com
blocking: preview.redd.it
blocking: alb.reddit.com

It's quite the torture test for anything trying to figure out what is and isn't blocked :p

mathcat

@RadvylfPrograms what's sock**2 again?

Radvylf Programs

My system to bypass my school's internet filtering

SegFaultPlus4

@BgilMidol is it an esolang, a golflang, or a serious lang

Bgil Midol

@SegFaultPlus4 golf

mathcat

@RadvylfPrograms you're bad\nass

SegFaultPlus4

18:42

question

spaces or tabs

hint

it's <

Bgil Midol

@SegFaultPlus4 space?

Radvylf Programs

Tabs should not exist

Tab key? Sure. Tab char? No.

Bgil Midol

@RadvylfPrograms My editor converts tabs to 4 spaces.

Radvylf Programs

Almost all do

mathcat

@RadvylfPrograms yes!

Tabs are evil

emanresu A

18:55

Wordle 262 4/6

🟩⬛⬛⬛⬛
⬛⬛🟨🟩⬛
🟩⬛🟩🟩🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Why is everyone finding it so hard?

Ginger Industries

imagine using spaces

Aaroneous Miller

imagine using indentation

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Repeat List Until Longer code-golf The Challenge The challenge is simple: given an input list a and another list b, repeat a until it is longer than b. Call the repeated list ra. Then the following condition must hold true: len(b) < len(ra) <= len(b) + len(a). That is, a must not be repeated more...

emanresu A

@GingerIndustries status-still-not-working

Ginger Industries

@emanresuA ¯¯\__(ಠ__ಠ)__/¯¯

that's cursed

Unrelated String

19:01

@hyper-neutrino it's a weird outage too

Radvylf Programs

🟨🟩⬛⬛🟨
🟩🟩🟩⬛🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Unrelated String

like usually you can't get past the loading screen

emanresu A

Oof nice

Unrelated String

but this time you can like

see all of your servers and all of the channels on them

but each channel's messages individually fail to load

DLosc

Daniel, about the same age, I was asked to leave class for claiming that pi is not 22/7. The math teacher said that 3.14 is an approximation and while some people falsly believe that pi=3.14 but the true answer is 22/7. Years later an Israeli newspaper published a story about a person who can memorize the first 2000 digits of pi and the article contained the first 200 digits. A week later the newspaper published a correction: "Some of our readers pointed out that pi=22/7". Then the "corrected" (periodic) 200 digits were included. Memorizing digits of pi is a whole different matter if pi=22/7. — Gil Kalai May 11, 2010 at 5:45

Oh no

Ginger Industries

19:11

o̅_o̅

Unrelated String

:|

Radvylf Programs

Pi is now 22.7, didn't you hear?

The mathematicians got together and decided it'd make things so much easier

mathcat

@RadvylfPrograms wth no

tau was bad enough

Radvylf Programs

Yeah they decided just last month, different mathematicians had been using different pis, but we've standardized it now

Ginger Industries

> Tis' a favorite project of mine,
> A new value of pi to assign.
> I'd fix it at 3, for it's simpler you see,
> Than 3.14159.

mathcat

19:18

Can we please make pi a pie and not a number?

hyper-neutrino

pi=4

mathcat

@mathcat It will be easier to memorize what pi is that way

DLosc

@mathcat My office celebrates March 14th by bringing pies

I will be making a pie for the first time in my life this weekend

Ginger Industries

Okay golfers, time for a story about the Indiana Pi Bill.

hyper-neutrino

@UnrelatedString lol, yeah, it's pretty weird

mathcat

19:21

@GingerIndustries Was he killed by Jon Skeet?

hyper-neutrino

interesting coincidence, last time there was an outage was when i just finished rewriting my bot for a server

Unrelated String

lmao

hyper-neutrino

so the downtime actually let me turn off my bot and migrate the database without affecting anything

just last night i decided to stop my second rewrite because i am too busy and wasn't really motivated to do it anymore

and there's another outage today kekw

Unrelated String

> not hosting your bot on a laptop

Ginger Industries

imagine not hosting your bot on a Rapsberry Pi

hyper-neutrino

19:23

i host the bot on myself

the bot is actually me just manually looking at every message myself

Ginger Industries

w
wat

hyper-neutrino

there's actually an ongoing joke in the server that i'm not a human but actually a robot lmao

Ginger Industries

~~if only they knew~~

emanresu A

@DLosc ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_

Ginger Industries

@emanresuA _ಠ_

DLosc

19:26

@GingerIndustries ⬡≈⭘

(Took way too long to find a Unicode circle approximately the same size as that Unicode hexagon :P)

emanresu A

CMC: Given n, create an n-generation ಠ_ಠ. The first generation is ಠ_ಠ, and the rest are two of the previous joined by _

@DLosc Unicode circle doesn't render for me

hyper-neutrino

@emanresuA python, 27 bytes: tio.run/##K6gsycjPM/…

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*29

Radvylf Programs

@emanresuA f=n=>n?f(--n)+"_"+f(n):"ಠ"

emanresu A

--n for -2

hyper-neutrino

19:31

@UnrelatedString would be nice if i could read

lol

emanresu A

@RadvylfPrograms ... that version doesn't work, --n is needed

Radvylf Programs

shhhh

It's always said --n

DLosc

@emanresuA :(

emanresu A

Browser compatibility is a pain

DLosc

Here's a blast from the past:

Aug 27, 2016 at 3:35, by Helka Homba

Mini-challenge: Summarize the plot of a favorite movie/book in 29 bytes or less.

Aug 27, 2016 at 3:36, by Helka Homba

The let other people guess the title

emanresu A

19:41

“¡qñṁ¶ṅ⁵/⁽z ẓƓĿṠọ¢H»

Radvylf Programs

@DLosc Are we trying to opimize for it being easy or hard, or fun?

emanresu A

everyone frantically opens up jelly interpreter

Unrelated String

i already had it up for this ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ

mathcat

except me who doesn't know how to compress strings in jelly

Unrelated String

there's an optimal compressor on the tips page and on hyper's jht site

emanresu A

19:45

@UnrelatedString I just used ASCII stuff for Vyxal, 9 bytes - integer compression is kinda sussy anyway

@UnrelatedString Yeah, used that

Unrelated String

jelly filters out non-sbcs characters in unicode mode

Ginger Industries

@emanresuA I'm going to go put this in Sandbox, one sec

Unrelated String

there miiiiight be a shorter way to get 3232 than ⁽®ḃ but that is just three bytes already

DLosc

@RadvylfPrograms Fun. I think the optimal example is one that takes a while to guess, but somebody does guess it and then everybody else goes "Ohh, yeah"

It's too easy to pick something obscure that no one will ever get.

Radvylf Programs

29 bytes is just too restrictive for what I want to do :|

DLosc

19:52

Ha! I was toying with suggesting a smaller limit.

Radvylf Programs

Here's what I had, it's over the limit but meh:

nvm

DLosc

JewelryMelted

Radvylf Programs

Lord of the Rings

DLosc

Yep!

emanresu A

BoyAndDadStealBirdsFromForest

Radvylf Programs

19:56

KidsPlayW/Dog,ExploreBasement

Ginger Industries

CryptoBullshitTVSeries

Radvylf Programs

@emanresuA Is it a Roald Dahl book?

emanresu A

Yes :)

Radvylf Programs

I forgot what it's called lol

@GingerIndustries -graphy or -currency

Ginger Industries

@RadvylfPrograms currency

actually BlockchainBullshitTVSeries

DLosc

19:58

@emanresuA Hm, then I haven't read that one

Radvylf Programs

The late 2010s and early 2020s have been tough for technology terminology. "I bought a WAP with lots of crypto" now means something totally different.

emanresu A

o/

Ginger Industries

how to do latex in SE

emanresu A

\$...\$

or $$...$$

Ginger Industries

oh

Adám

20:00

Not enabled on every site, though.

DLosc

@RadvylfPrograms I'm coming up with ideas for KidsPlayW/Dog,Explore and KidsPlay,ExploreBasement, but not both together... hmm...

mathcat

@emanresuA o/

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ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ Thanks to emanresu A for suggesting this. The challenge is simple: Given a number \$n\ge 1\$ , output that generation of ಠ_ಠ faces, where each generation is two of the previous one joined by an underscore. Examples: In: 1 Out: ಠ_ಠ In: 2 Out: ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ In: 5 Out: ಠ_ಠ_...

DLosc

@GingerIndustries I don't watch much TV, so I'm pretty sure I won't know this

Radvylf Programs

@DLosc Danny, the Champion of the World

pxeger

20:02

@DLosc WW2PilotGoesInsane

DLosc

@pxeger Wild guess: Catch-22?

pxeger

Yup

Ginger Industries

@DLosc alternate: MonkeyCryptoShow

mathcat

PersonTriesToKillStudent

Radvylf Programs

PrisonB(r)eak

(going for the really golfy category :p)

pxeger

20:05

BoyLearnsHowToTrainADragon

DLosc

@mathcat That's pretty vague--could fit most of the Harry Potter books, for starters :P

pxeger

lol

DLosc

@pxeger Um

How to Train Your Dragon? Or Eragon?

pxeger

the former

never heard of Eragon

DLosc

@pxeger Lol

mathcat

20:05

@DLosc ah yeah

DLosc

@RadvylfPrograms Chicken Run?

Radvylf Programs

No

DLosc

Ah, dang. I would've felt really clever if that had been right. X^D

pxeger

good guess though

TooLongBook:ManCatchesBigFish

Ginger Industries

@pxeger Moby Dick

pxeger

20:08

nope

DLosc

If it was supposed to be Moby Dick, I would have several objections to that description ^_^

mathcat

DiaryOfMiddleSchoolKid

Radvylf Programs

That's like a whole genre :p

Ginger Industries

@pxeger D ociyMbk?

pxeger

??

Ginger Industries

20:10

this is cool

pxeger

@pxeger Hint: set in the Carribean

mathcat

o/[bye]

Ginger Industries

\o

mathcat

@pxeger ~~Pirates of the Caribic~~

Radvylf Programs

>:| can people stop just saying o/ without context, I never know if they're joining or leaving

Ginger Industries

20:13

@pxeger Moby Dick of the Caribbian?

@RadvylfPrograms \e

Radvylf Programs

-.-

Unrelated String

\e

DLosc

ಠ/

Ginger Industries

Feb 13 at 19:04, by Ginger Industries

\ಠ

Unrelated String

oh looks like discord's back

DLosc

20:14

@pxeger I'm drawing a blank

Ginger Industries

@DLosc A blank:

pxeger

hint 2: American author

DLosc

Apparently Jaws was a novel before it was a movie... but it's not set in the Caribbean. :/

Radvylf Programs

CowboysVsGermans

(very much a stretch)

pxeger

hint 3: the big fish is a Marlin

DLosc

20:21

@pxeger All I can say is that I'm quite certain I've never read it :P

pxeger

spoiler

Unrelated String

somehow my "oh" failed to send

DLosc

@RadvylfPrograms Some WWII story?

@pxeger Huh, Wikipedia calls it a "novella." Still too long?

Radvylf Programs

Nope

pxeger

It was very boring to me

but it won a Pulitzer so I'm guessing it just went over my head

I was probably like 15 when I read it

Unrelated String

20:25

the type of fish sounded familiar so i looked it up and my immediate reaction was

DLosc

ManAttackedByExFanboy

Unrelated String

i probably had it somewhat mixed up with vague spoiler

DLosc

^

Unrelated String

20:42

if we're dropping the "favorite" part of the game here's an extreme stretch: APLphobicPropaganda

Radvylf Programs

That could be like, almost any programming language tutorial

Learn You a Haskell for Great Good?

Unrelated String

21:09

more like, if you make several barely-founded assumptions about what inspired a poorly thought out plot point, treats it as:
- literally unreadable
- completely obsolete and orphaned
- implicated in a plan for world domination

Ginger Industries

21:22

@NewPosts butterize?

Radvylf Programs

It's not spam

Ginger Industries

ah

Unrelated String

it's... probably their homework

hyper-neutrino

→ 1 message moved to The Nineteenth Bakery

Ginger Industries

@UnrelatedString imagine asking for homework help on CGSE

Unrelated String

21:23

either they've done something astoundingly confused or the assignment itself also sucks

hyper-neutrino

also that code formatting sucks wow

Unrelated String

yeah

Ginger Industries

it's not even a good question

hyper-neutrino

also i don't even get what this is supposed to be

why are there three addition operations

Unrelated String

also the ide is hideous

hyper-neutrino

21:24

also this doesn't even compile

like... ?

Ginger Industries

this code looks like it was written by a short-circuiting computer keyboard drooled on by a 3-year-old

Unrelated String

0" + "9

Radvylf Programs

Well I mean, according to OP it's JavaScript, so no compilation needed.

hyper-neutrino

lmao

Radvylf Programs

It's like when your dad removes the whole house's smoke detector batteries; no compiler, no compiler errors. Problem solved.

Ginger Industries

21:26

it's not even valid JS, so more like hitting the smoke detectors with a hammer

Radvylf Programs

Also I am probably going to die in a house fire one day

6

Unrelated String

almost reminds me of

Ginger Industries

what the fok

cpythava

Bgil Midol

@UnrelatedString did you mean: "def f():x='seven';\nprint('x=7')"?

Radvylf Programs

Can we just talk about the tabs along the bottom (!) of this IDE? Practice with constants.java (yuck, spaces?!) and Sentinals.java (wat?)

Unrelated String

21:28

from a reddit post like a year ago; iirc it was some student's attempt at... just setting x to 7

@RadvylfPrograms are tabs on the bottom not normalish? but yeah those are horrid holy fuck

Ginger Industries

I need to find that image in my cache, one sec

Bgil Midol

@UnrelatedString did you mean: x = 7?

Radvylf Programs

@GingerIndustries You need to do what now?

Unrelated String

maybe we should contact op to find what school they're from so we can stage an intervention

Radvylf Programs

We can like...rappel down from the ceiling with machine guns and katanas and forcibly take over the CS department

Ginger Industries

21:30

@RadvylfPrograms we're the Richard Stallmen of code golf

Unrelated String

it's probably a high school where the cs department is a single middle aged tennis coach

Radvylf Programs

Yeah prolly but "rappel down from the ceiling and take Coach Johnson hostage" doesn't sound as good

3

hyper-neutrino

yeah the spaces in .java file names is cursed

also if not for the taskbar this would look like it was screenshotted in like windows xp based on the ide lmao

Unrelated String

come to think of it don't .java files have to have the same name as the class

how would that even work with spaces

Bgil Midol

Any feedback?

Ginger Industries

21:38

does anyone have that image

Radvylf Programs

Which one

Ginger Industries

the image in that post

chrome's being a baka sus and won't let me view it

Radvylf Programs

lonk

Also baka susin would mean "the fool is suspicious (of something)"

baka sus or baka ladi susin is probably more what you meant

Ginger Industries

okay jesus christ

what is the m in the taskbar

and why are they using a Windows 98 app on Windows 11

Radvylf Programs

Ooh when a cloudflare blog posts starts with "CVE-" you know things just got real

Ginger Industries

21:43

ohoho

Radvylf Programs

> This type of attack reflects traffic off vulnerable servers to victims, amplifying the amount of traffic sent in the process by an amplification factor of 220 billion percent in this specific case.

So the second most boring kind of CVE, but still something

Ginger Industries

@RadvylfPrograms ah yes, 220 billion percent is second most boring

Radvylf Programs

Oh wow I'm getting 100 Mbps on school wifi over through my proxy (in unblocked mode, so not really proxying at all)

I have a bit of conspiracy theory that ISPs intentionally give higher priority to traffic to and from speed testing sites

Don't know if I'm just paranoid or if they really do

But it wouldn't surprise me

I have 539 starred messages

3

Bgil Midol

@RadvylfPrograms how do i find out how many i have?

Radvylf Programs

Click "show all 31178", and click "starred by me".

There's 50 messages per page, except for the last one

Bgil Midol

21:53

@RadvylfPrograms I have 1.

Radvylf Programs

You'll have to count those by hand or use document.querySelector(".content").length

DLosc

22:04

@RadvylfPrograms Is the 539 the ones you've starred, or the ones you've posted and others have starred?

allxy

22:34

@RadvylfPrograms Wrong

Bgil Midol

22:51

@allxy How do you know?

allxy

See the message I replied to

DLosc

@allxy Depends on the answer to my question, tho

Radvylf Programs

Ones I've posted that've been starred

I've starred more than twice as many

allxy

mwahaha

Radvylf Programs

Oh wow...I've starred more than a 25th of the messages starred in this room

And posted more than a 50th

Bgil Midol

22:57

wow

lyxal

The privileges of being awake during conversations where people are active

Radvylf Programs

YT keeps resetting my light/dark theme and autoplay preferences

DLosc

@RadvylfPrograms I have 101. Reading back through some of the old ones was interesting. Turns out I used to be a noob who didn't understand how to use chat, just like everyone else. :)

allxy

23:16

It's usually three keystrokes for a ping, but yeah.

@, first letter, tab

lyxal

Remembering back to some of my earlier messages reminds me of how there was a time where I'd insert a space after the colon that you see when replying to someone to indicate a reply but not ping them

hyper-neutrino

i do sometimes wish there were a reply-without-ping feature much like discord's

Bgil Midol

23:32

@DLosc How do you find your first messages?

DLosc

@BgilMidol I didn't, exactly... I basically just read down my entire list of starred messages. :P There might be a way to do it, IDK.

Unrelated String

@hyper-neutrino you can sorta do it by quoting with a permalink but that takes up waaaay more space

Unrelated String

23:52

i wonder how long it'll take for me to get used to there just being a brainfuck golfer with a cirno fumo pfp now

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Inspired by this Your task is simple, output the following string ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ / \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \ /.....................\ /.......................\ _________________________ Trailing spaces are allowed Meta This challenge is quite dumb and probably wont receive good feedback b...

DialFrost

^dumb random challenge i made

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