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Riker
Riker
00:08
@quartata I found you on reddit:
> deafness is a conspiracy made up by big vision to sell more eyes
quartata
quartata
i am big hearing
Veskah
Veskah
Big scent here, please buy more Yankee "Burnt Component"-scented Candles
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
00:26
As a deaf guy myself.....I have no idea how to react. (I'm not offended at all, just amused.)
 
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Skidsdev
Skidsdev
01:48
@El'endiaStarman wait but if you're deaf, how can you hear what any of us are saying in here??
Veskah
Veskah
@Skidsdev Nubile man-servant reading the chat most likely
I realize what I've just typed. I am not clever
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Anonymous
@Veskah And it will be forever immortalized on the starboard
Pavel
Pavel
nice duck hat
I can't seem to get it
Anonymous
It's easy. You just have to quack the code.
quartata
quartata
@Skidsdev well i mean he has cochlear implants
Veskah
Veskah
02:03
@Mego Fugg :'DDDD
quartata
quartata
at least i think
Pavel
Pavel
@Mego I mean I know what it says on the meta but I did the thing and didn't get the hat
Anonymous
@Pavel From what I've heard, it can take a while to award
Pavel
Pavel
This was last week
Anonymous
Ok that might be a bit much
Anonymous
02:04
Try again?
Pavel
Pavel
Now I can't get the button to appear
Anonymous
Be patient, and it will come to you
Pavel
Pavel
I guess I'll just stick with my identification division hat
I wonder what it's a reference to
(Assuming it's some kind of reference, which it looks like)
Anonymous
It's a reference to Admiral Grace Hopper, inventor of the COBOL programming language
Pavel
Pavel
Oooh
Anonymous
02:06
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper#/media/… (no onebox)
Dennis
Dennis
@Mego I fully expected Admiral Grace Hopper to be either a joke or a cartoon character.
Anonymous
@Dennis Nope, she was an awesome real lady
Dennis
Dennis
I don't doubt that.
Anonymous
Not all programming language inventors are cartoon characters like yourself :P
Dennis
Dennis
.oO ( When you can't even sentence. )
Veskah
Veskah
02:11
>Rear Admiral (Lower Half)
Oh god, what did they do with the top half?
Alternative joke: When your booty so good, it outranks you
Anonymous
@Veskah In the US navy, there are two ranks called Rear Admiral for some reason. Rear Admiral (Lower Half) is O-7, and is equivalent to a brigadier general in the Army, or a Commodore in other navies.
Veskah
Veskah
Neat
Anonymous
Great, now my hat makes me look like an incredibly messy eater
Riker
Riker
@Dennis the comments should probably be cleared on the post you just reopened?
I believe they've all been dealt with
Dennis
Dennis
I don't want to purge the comments on the post I've just reopened. Let's see if others disagree.
Riker
Riker
02:23
@El'endiaStarman well did you buy new eyes?
@Dennis fair
Dennis
Dennis
Answered two seconds too early to show off new hat.
I really can't write right now. What is happening?
Pavel
Pavel
I see the new hat
Riker
Riker
very nice duck, 9/10 needs more duck
Anonymous
@Dennis Too much eggnog? Not enough eggnog?
Dennis
Dennis
Yes, I wrote Answered two seconds too early to show off new hat. to show off new hat.
quartata
quartata
02:26
Oh is today the day for some chat hat
Dennis
Dennis
@Mego Eggnog wouldn't be my drink of choice, while it's 30 °C at 23:30.
Riker
Riker
oh is it
Dennis
Dennis
I didn't drink anything, actually.
Riker
Riker
@quartata it's not dennis just has a duck now
Dennis
Dennis
Which makes the fact that I wrote penguin in the user search—to take a look at Mego's hat on main—all the more disturbing.
Anonymous
02:28
@quartata No, that's +/- 12h of new years UTC
Anonymous
@Dennis Well I have a suggestion for you, then
Riker
Riker
> implying there aren't other secret hats for chat-based activities
Anonymous
@Dennis Honestly at this point, that should work
Dennis
Dennis
Well, it didn't.
It did make me question my sanity though.
Riker
Riker
it does if you click the first result then on mego's profile on the "closed" banner
Dennis
Dennis
02:31
@Mego If alcohol didn't cause it, it will fix it?
Anonymous
@Dennis Alcohol: the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems!
Anonymous
Unless you're underage, in which case it only causes more problems.
Riker
Riker
@Mego welp better start hiding it, brb
Dennis
Dennis
I'm almost allowed to drink twice at this point.
Riker
Riker
@Dennis codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/177717/…
or mego I guess actually
Anonymous
02:35
@Dennis Is that what people mean when they ask for doubles at the bar?
Dennis
Dennis
No, they want to see double.
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Q: Troubleshooting recursion code (AoC)

RakshaThis is for Advent of Code, Day 17. I literally got it ALMOST working in five minutes, but then it won't terminate ... I've been messing with it for the good part of the day and still can't figure it out. Put print statements after every line to monitor what is happening (tried PythonTutor, but t...

python programming-puzzle recursion
 
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Jo King
Jo King
05:52
@H.PWiz Okay, I can't figure it out. Clue please?
Riker
Riker
@JoKing what does this refer to?
Jo King
Jo King
06:05
@Riker He commented that he could get 31 bytes for one of my answers, and said I could ask for a hint if I wanted
H.PWiz
H.PWiz
06:34
A weak hint is this:
It is most similar to __('_=__=_/_;'+'__,_=_+__,__;'*_), but removes the last iteration without using ~-, and then reveals an easy two bytes to chop off
Let me know if you want the levenshtein distance or something similar
 
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Jo King
Jo King
11:38
@H.PWiz Got it! That's a neat trick. I think the biggest clue was that you had semi-colons in both the strings :P
primo
primo
12:18
I found quite a few alternate versions for 34 bytes, but nothing under
score, 31 bytes
markdown doesn't work in chat, i swear
Dennis
Dennis
12:36
@primo Chat doesn't allow Markdown in multi-line messages, unless the entire message is a quote or a code snippet.
primo
primo
aha
got it, thanks
H.PWiz
H.PWiz
12:58
@JoKing lol, I had __('_=__=_/'+'_;__,_=_+__,_'*_)
Also, oops, on the semi-colon thing
moonheart08
moonheart08
13:39
These hats are silly, but it is too late for me. I already succumbed to the hat curse
Ok, question: I want to do codegolf on the R214K2A (A computer built in The Powder Toy)
One problem: The computer's word size is variable. Instructions are 29 bit, and data is 16 bit.
How would i measure this properly for PPCG?
dzaima
dzaima
@moonheart08 8-bit bytes everywhere, no option
moonheart08
moonheart08
mm
maxb
maxb
@dzaima Do you round up, or do you get a score with decimals?
J. Sallé
J. Sallé
TPT R214K2A, 3.14159265358979 bytes
dzaima
dzaima
@maxb your answer must have a representation of the code in full 8-bit bytes, how you do that doesn't matter
moonheart08
moonheart08
13:49
@dzaima really crazy unrelated question: What if the computer the code is for is analog?
maxb
maxb
user image
dzaima
dzaima
@moonheart08 no idea. just represent everything in bytes and you'll be okay, and if you can't, who knows
maxb
maxb
@dzaima unless you're using the Baker's byte
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
14:16
@Skidsdev What if I told you...I'm not hearing what you're saying in here? Dun dun duuuuunnn....
@Riker The ones I have now are just fine, thank you.
caird coinheringaahing
caird coinheringaahing
@El'endiaStarman How can they be fine if you're not hearing what we're saying in here?
Just realised that you didn't reply to the message I thought you did :/
maxb
maxb
14:39
I'm currently working on a KotH challenge that I think could be really fun. I'm planning on posting it before the weekend. If anyone could take their time to read it through, I'd really appreciate it. It's based on a dice game I was introduced to recently, and I couldn't find a similar challenge under the KotH tag.
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
15:04
@cairdcoinheringaahing Well...it kinda still works...
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Q: One way traffic

NoahO In a certain region all places are the one by road. But one-way traffic for all roads; if you are allowed to go from A to B via the direct route, you can not along that road from B to A. If you want to, you will have to take a detour. Above is an example of an area with five ...

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Geobits
Geobits
@maxb Peter summed up most of what I would say in his comment. Not that figuring out the logic for this in python would be hard, but you'll generally have more participants/competition if you open it up to other languages.
And yes, that's kinda a pain on you (I've been there), but it's not that bad
You could even limit it to a handful of languages if it's the environment setup you're concerned about
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
I'm generally on the opposite side :)
I prefer challenges that are single languages. They make it easier for participants to test their submissions against other submissions, and you are able to significantly increase the number of runs
maxb
maxb
@Geobits I ran into some problems when I did my last fastest-code challenge, but I can imagine that it's way worse with a challenge where it's much simpler to create a submission. I don't want to exclude people who have invested their time in the challenge simply because I can't get their code to run.
J. Sallé
J. Sallé
@maxb I like it. It's well specified and explained.
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
15:33
I also strongly recommend tracking stability across runs.
Aka, if you run the full simulation, and a certain bot is the top bot
J. Sallé
J. Sallé
Also, I played a similar game once that used a pair of dice, and the "you're screwed" number was 7.
maxb
maxb
@J.Sallé Thanks! If I decide to go with Python only, the challenge will probably be posted today or tomorrow. If I decide to include multiple languages, it'll be a few more days.
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
and then you run it again, and a different bot is the winner, then you know that either: 1. You haven't run it long enough, or 2. Your challenge has too much randomness to declare a winner
Geobits
Geobits
One problem I had with KotH in the past was Ruby submissions. Not for being Ruby, but just that my PC really didn't like having multiple versions of Ruby running. In the end that was my fault, but at the time it was quite frustrating.
maxb
maxb
@NathanMerrill I've done runs on my own, and stability is indeed an issue. I'll probably do 4-5 one hour runs, and then the final 8 hour run to get both stability and a high number of samples.
Geobits
Geobits
15:35
Of course, another problem was people submitting things that just don't compile at all. I had one particular Java entry that was missing all kinds of syntax
Quintec
Quintec
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Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
right. If your 1 hour runs are sufficiently stable, then you're awesome. If they aren't then how can you be sure that your 8 hour will be?
J. Sallé
J. Sallé
I'd totally submit a bot if I knew any python at all >.>
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Geobits
Geobits
^ this
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
? We're on a site that is all about learning (and making) new languages, and you're complaining about learning one of the easiest languages on the planet?
Geobits
Geobits
15:37
Not saying I would, but that's my argument in a nutshell
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
Especially with a simple challenge like maxb's, I really don't buy the "I need more submissions" argument.
J. Sallé
J. Sallé
@NathanMerrill not complaining at all, just stating the fact that I don't know any python :p
Geobits
Geobits
This site isn't about learning new languages to everyone. Some people just want to golf, or play, in languages they already know
maxb
maxb
@NathanMerrill I'm hoping that all runs will be stable. if the 1-hour runs aren't, I'll have to see if I can do multiple 8-hour runs
Geobits
Geobits
I have no interest whatsoever in Jelly or D or Ruby or Lady-Octopi, or whatever the newest fad is :D
J. Sallé
J. Sallé
15:38
I can probably learn some python to do it, but it's not the most exciting language to learn IMO
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
Fair enough. You can't expect people to learn a language. But if somebody is actually interested in a challenge, learning the language (especially Python) is the least of their problems
Actually getting a good score is (hopefully) harder
J. Sallé
J. Sallé
No arguments there.
Poke
Poke
@Geobits could you not use venvs or whatever ruby's equivalent is
Geobits
Geobits
@Poke Maybe, I don't know. The main issue was that I did not know many things lol
Quintec
Quintec
At least it is not required that all submissions are in Befunge or something. Python is easy to learn and easy to read, so even people who don't know it should be able to figure out how to do what they want to do fairly quickly without actually learning python.
Geobits
Geobits
15:40
Unless they golf on their work computers and installing python would be frowned upon :P
Poke
Poke
@Geobits Did you know what you didn't know
Geobits
Geobits
@Poke I only knew that there was much I didn't know, not what it was
maxb
maxb
@J.Sallé I'll look into allowing multiple languages. If I decide to (right now I'm 50/50), it'll probably be a small set of languages (I'm thinking Python, C/C++, Java, maybe 1-3 more)
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
@maxb You're using python, so my data may be off. However, when I tested cross-language communication vs single-language communication (in Java), I found that cross-language was literally 10x slower.
Poke
Poke
@Geobits That's better than not knowing what you don't know because then you think you know but you don't.
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
15:41
This can be reduced if you do parallelism
because you can do lots of pipes at the same time
but a function call is orders of magnitude faster
And so "multiple languages" is at odds with "lots of iterations"
Geobits
Geobits
Oh it's definitely slower if you're using stdin vs a built-in class, for instance. For such a simple game it may not be an issue, but that depends on the number of entries also
J. Sallé
J. Sallé
@maxb I don't think that's strictly necessary though. Sure, you'd get more submissions, but all in all it's much more complicated to test
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
@Geobits simple games are typically worse, because you are making more function calls, rather than fewer, larger ones
Geobits
Geobits
@Poke Hmm. I don't know.
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
though that obviously depends on the game
maxb
maxb
15:43
@NathanMerrill I'm quite sure that the simulations will be way slower, but I think the hardest part will be creating a system which runs smoothly (or at all)
Geobits
Geobits
@NathanMerrill Oh, I meant simple as in relatively short, really. Not not-complex
@maxb There are KotH controllers posted as examples in Java and Python at least that do this you could "borrow" from
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
@maxb well, if you need help in this regard, I have lots of experience in this field
I've done it in Python (including cross-language) as well as Java
maxb
maxb
I'll look into the links I've gotten when it comes to KotH controllers, and make a final decision after that. Just don't hate me if I go with Python only, as I don't have unlimited time for creating KotH challenges.
Geobits
Geobits
Nah, no hate here :D
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
I'm not sure if there is a Python controller. I might have some old code you can reuse, though.
Geobits
Geobits
15:47
Hard to believe this is still the case after I've been gone so long:
user image
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
it's been months since I've asked one as well :)
They really do take a lot of time
@maxb I know I'm the one that wrote this, but this post is basically what I ask people every time they make a KotH.
maxb
maxb
@NathanMerrill Thanks! I'll read it through
Geobits
Geobits
> Commit to running and fixing your KoTH at least once a day for the next week, and every 2-4 days after that depending on how many submissions you get.
So much this
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
Yeah. I'm not going to lie. It's a time hog.
Geobits
Geobits
If you don't have some time on your hands, just don't bother lol
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
15:52
It's way fun though. You get lots of interaction, have some great discussions
You've got this popular little challenge you get to baby around for a while :)
dzaima
dzaima
@Geobits i'm surprised about how often regular code-golf challenges get posted right before the OP disappears for half a day ._.
Geobits
Geobits
Yeah, that's bad enough, but it's way worse for a koth
maxb
maxb
@Geobits I have "some" time on my hands. CPU time I have lots of, so running simulations probably won't be a problem. But I want to solve most issues before posting the challenge.
Geobits
Geobits
It's not just CPU time. It takes time to constantly update with new submissions, post leaderboards, etc. CPU time is a must, but so is the other
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
^ this as well as new-user support
Geobits
Geobits
15:57
If you're lower on that kind of time, it would probably be better indeed to stick to a single language to make that easier
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
brb, making a koth that requires everyone code in PowerShell
Geobits
Geobits
Make it exponent based, and call it Powers Hell
J. Sallé
J. Sallé
You know you're addicted when you can't see the word "koth" without thinking of MtG
Geobits
Geobits
Koth is overrated :P
Quintec
Quintec
i can't see koth without thinking of the chess variant
Geobits
Geobits
15:59
Gimme some of that sweet Teferi instead
J. Sallé
J. Sallé
Well he does struggle with Tibalt for the most useless red PW awards
Geobits
Geobits
I've always been of the opinion that he was a green born in a red's body
Skidsdev
Skidsdev
You know you're addicted when you can't see the word "tibalt" without thinking of GW2
J. Sallé
J. Sallé
Makes a lot of sense actually, what with all the making lands into creatures and stuff.
Pavel
Pavel
GW2?
Skidsdev
Skidsdev
16:07
Guild Wars 2, there's a character called Tybalt Leftpaw
Geobits
Geobits
Also known as George Washington Junior
Skidsdev
Skidsdev
also RIP Tybalt
Pavel
Pavel
Contact, anyone?
Pavel
Pavel
16:26
Actually lets test the TNB effect

 Contact

For playing the game Contact, where one person tries to "defend"...
maxb
maxb
16:42
@Pavel Seems like the effect is real
Pavel
Pavel
Yes
Geobits
Geobits
I'm quite surprised linking to a chatroom from a more popular chatroom increases the population in said chatroom
FlipTack
FlipTack
17:09
fascinating
wizzwizz4
wizzwizz4
Always link to the transcript.
Pavel
Pavel
@wizzwizz4 But then you don't join the room, which defies the point of invoking the TNB effect
Geobits
Geobits
If the point is "more people in the room", then yes. If the point is "more people playing the game", not necessarily
Pavel
Pavel
But when you enter the room everyone can see
And then we can harass you if you're playing or not
Geobits
Geobits
I entered and left with no harassment ;)
Skidsdev
Skidsdev
17:19
@Geobits can, not will ;)
Geobits
Geobits
I mean sure, but the last part of the statement is redundant anyway. "if you're playing or not" is the same as if(true)
So we might as well not parse it too closely :P
Skidsdev
Skidsdev
poorly worded, his intention was "harass you as to whether you are playing or not"
Geobits
Geobits
That makes an assumption not guaranteed. VTC as unclear
Erik the Outgolfer
Erik the Outgolfer
oh, so he didn't mean if x or not x:...?
Geobits
Geobits
Unrelated: I finally gave up on the not-Comcast option in my area, since they've screwed my billing up for the last time. Signing up for Xfinity now :(
I knew this day would come, but it's a sad one
wizzwizz4
wizzwizz4
17:26
Ok, I think the period of respectful silence can stop now.
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

japhCount smooth numbers fastest-code number-theory primes combinatorics Define \$\Psi(x,B)\$ as the number of integers between \$1\$ and \$x\$, whose prime factors are all \$B\$ or less. (These are the \$B\$-smooth numbers.) For example, there are 34 integers between 1 and 100 that have only 2, 3...

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@Geobits RIP
Erik the Outgolfer
Erik the Outgolfer
yum, waffle
wizzwizz4
wizzwizz4
19:12
@EriktheOutgolfer No eating Mego's head.
Erik the Outgolfer
Erik the Outgolfer
and I thought I was the only one who has put that hat upside-down...
wizzwizz4
wizzwizz4
@EriktheOutgolfer I was planning to hack the site to place the hat lower down whilst keeping it maximum size, but I don't really think it's worth the effort of extracting H(...).setHat.
Erik the Outgolfer
Erik the Outgolfer
abuuuuuuuse ;P
Skidsdev
Skidsdev
I\ve had my hat upside down since I got the topbar hat
dzaima
dzaima
good, I'm not the only one using hats in weird directions & places :p
Skidsdev
Skidsdev
19:26
I actually like this hat upside down over my picture so much that I took a screenshot of it and set it as my picture
so even when hatmas is over I still get to keep it :D
wizzwizz4
wizzwizz4
@Skidsdev It's a tradition for me.
Skidsdev
Skidsdev
this is my first time being active here around christmas
wizzwizz4
wizzwizz4
19:46
Hahahaa! 
n = {
  hatId: 4,
  fkey: StackExchange.options.user.fkey,
  x: 0,
  y: 0,
  s: 100,
  r: 60,
  everywhere: true,
  community: false
};
$.ajax({
  url: "/winter-bash/wear",
  type: "POST",
  data: n,
  dataType: "json"
});
caird coinheringaahing
caird coinheringaahing
Change the ID to a random number, see if you get a new hat
wizzwizz4
wizzwizz4
x and y relative to the centre, I think.
@cairdcoinheringaahing You can't; only hats you already own.
caird coinheringaahing
caird coinheringaahing
Awww
wizzwizz4
wizzwizz4
And I just realised that setHats is exposed as WinterBash.hats.setHats; that takes hatId and then n, iirc. Never mind; it's not!
r is in degrees, not radians, by the way.
@cairdcoinheringaahing And secret hats have randomised IDs.
Argh! They validate it server-side. :-|
We can't set hats out of bounds. :'-(
Skidsdev
Skidsdev
of course they do
ah but can you increase the scale above normal limits?
how good is their validation?
What about a negative scale?
wizzwizz4
wizzwizz4
19:57
Seems to be the same as client-side.
Same algorithm, even.
The client-side algorithm is pretty foolproof, so I expect the server-side algorithm to be too.
Especially since Winter Bash is 60% client-side; only the hat awarding and the position storing is server-side.
... It's not server-side validation. It's client-side upon rendering, I think.
Chat renders mine differently to Main.
@Skidsdev You can find out, if you like! I've got to do some real work, but I think there's potential for hackery here.
Skidsdev
Skidsdev
Alas I too have work to do
wizzwizz4
wizzwizz4
Aww...
Erik the Outgolfer
Erik the Outgolfer
@wizzwizz4 known issue, yes
wizzwizz4
wizzwizz4
Running WinterBash.chat.init() fixed it...
Probably a coincidence.
 
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Veskah
Veskah
21:24
Quick, party while everyone's off playing Contact and Codenames
Erik the Outgolfer
Erik the Outgolfer
peeks at sidebar
Dennis
Dennis
Found anything interesting?
Veskah
Veskah
!Yes
Erik the Outgolfer
Erik the Outgolfer
what? ;)
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
@Veskah Mazel tov.
Poke
Poke
21:37
I've been starting an effort to drink 64oz of water every day while i'm at work. This has (as expected) resulted in more trips to urinate throughout the day. Anyone know what the actual benefits i'm getting are if i'm just urinating them out a few hours later?
Pavel
Pavel
TIL: The acceleration due to gravity in the room I'm sitting in is 9.80799 m/s^2
@Poke You're getting free breaks from work
Poke
Poke
for reference I used to drink less than half of that
Pavel
Pavel
And no, you don't need to drink more water when you don't feel thirsty
Unless you do hard labor in extreme heat you're not hurting yourself by drinking only when you feel your should
Poke
Poke
so my recent effort is going to gain me nothing
excellent
Pavel
Pavel
Most likely, yes
Poke
Poke
21:40
well I suppose my pee will be clearer more often ;)
Veskah
Veskah
Fighting the good Kidney stone fight
Adám
Adám
@Pavel 1. That seems oddly exact — did you measure it? 2. No, that's the net acceleration due to gravity and centrifugal force.
Zacharý
Zacharý
@Pavel Well ... Adipsia is a thing tho'.
Pavel
Pavel
@Adám Only gravity, and I calculated it based on longitude, latitue, altitude, and ground density.
Adám
Adám
@Zacharý ninja'd me.
Zacharý
Zacharý
21:42
(Always assume there is a way around something)
@Adám WAIT WHAT.
Adám
Adám
@Zacharý I was about to say that.
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
@Geobits I recently found out that an ISP I used to use recently sent out a big ad to all of their consumers (that had to be acknowledged before you could use the internet). I'm quite glad I switched (and rather happy with my current ISP)
Pavel
Pavel
If you're sick you should drink more, because most sicknesses cause you to lose fluids.
Zacharý
Zacharý
I know. I had to look it up: I literally assume there's a (possibly convoluted) way around everything, including advice.
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
General health generally has a high correlation with water consumption. There's no solid data on the amount of water.
Poke
Poke
21:43
Not sick. Just working on small stepping stones to washboard abs
wizzwizz4
wizzwizz4
@NathanMerrill ... Yeah, I'm glad I'm not living there.
Where is that?
Adám
Adám
@Pavel So you sit on a pole?
Veskah
Veskah
Wasn't it a Colorado ISP?
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
CenturyLink, in Utah. My current ISP is a small company called Direct Communications
Pavel
Pavel
@Adám No..?
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
21:44
they might have stuff in Colorado. We are neighbors, after all
Pavel
Pavel
Oh right, only one of latitude/longitude. Already forgot which one.
Adám
Adám
@Pavel If you're not at a ple, then whatever you measure is the net total (though the centrifugal force is negligible… I'm just trolling. Sorry.)
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
longitude goes the long way around on maps
but that's all based on your projection
Pavel
Pavel
@Adám I didn't measure it, at that precision you'd get the wrong answer just from air drag. I calculated it with a formula I found.
Poke
Poke
@NathanMerrill I always was taught latitude flatitude
;)
Veskah
Veskah
21:46
I was taught Latitude like steps of a Ladder
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
lol. That's way better
wizzwizz4
wizzwizz4
@Veskah Erm... But ladders go the other direction to longitude and latitude...
Pavel
Pavel
Kinda want an app that gets your GPS data and tells you the acceleration due to gravity on your phone
Veskah
Veskah
Not if it's lying down and facing north
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
@Pavel you mean you want the decimal places after 9.8?
Pavel
Pavel
21:48
Yes
Adám
Adám
CMC: Given an integer k, alternate between waiting/sleeping/busylooping n seconds and printing that n (you choose order), for n in (0 or 1)…(k-1 or k) (you choose combination).
Quintec
Quintec
So sleep 1, print 1, sleep 2, print 2, etc.?
Adám
Adám
@Quintec Yes, or print 1, sleep 1, etc. or begin at 0 if you want.
Pavel
Pavel
@Adám for(0..<>){sleep$_;say}
Adám
Adám
@Pavel What's up with not saying language any more?
Pavel
Pavel
21:54
@Adám Well, no other language looks like Perl
Adám
Adám
@Pavel You could have convinced me it was Python.
Wait, Python doesn't have braces, does it?
wizzwizz4
wizzwizz4
@Adám Python 3, lambda n:all(map(lambda n:[print(n),__import__("time").sleep(n)],range(n)))
Quintec
Quintec
Not with the $ or <>
Dennis
Dennis
@Adám Jelly, 5 bytes: œSṄ$€
Returns garbage.
Pavel
Pavel 
foreach $_ (0 .. readline(ARGV)) {
    sleep($_);
    say($_);
}
wizzwizz4
wizzwizz4
21:56
@Dennis Show-off. :-p
Pavel
Pavel
@Pavel The deparse of the above perl
Dennis
Dennis
@wizzwizz4 Isn't that the whole point of this site? :P
Wait, 4 bytes: œSṄ)
Adám
Adám
@Pavel Looks like JS to me ;-)
Quintec
Quintec
@Pavel It's ruby :P
Adám
Adám
@Dennis Is Wait a new language of yours?
Pavel
Pavel
21:58
@Adám deparsed (i.e. ungolfed) Perl doesn't look as cool
Quintec
Quintec
@Adám Cool! It's shorter than Jelly!
Pavel
Pavel
It is neat how Perl comes with an ungolfing tool
Erik the Outgolfer
Erik the Outgolfer
@Adám dictionaries, sets...
Dennis
Dennis
@Adám Sister language to hold on and I think I found something shorter.
Pavel
Pavel
lol
Adám
Adám
22:00
@Dennis Seriously? ;-)
Dennis
Dennis
Actually, I just golfed my Jelly code.
Adám
Adám
@Dennis That's odd, Jelly is usually shorter than Actually.
Veskah
Veskah
Local Man Can't Be Stopped
Pavel
Pavel
I wish say returned the value it prints so I could do sleep say for 0..<>
Erik the Outgolfer
Erik the Outgolfer
that's what Jelly does over there...
Adám
Adám
22:02
@Pavel Does sleep not return?
Pavel
Pavel
It does.
Neat.
DJMcMayhem
DJMcMayhem
@Adám Is 0 to k OK?
Pavel
Pavel
Oh, but it doesn't take $_ by default, so say sleep$_ for 0..<>
Adám
Adám
@Pavel That's why allowed whichever order you want of sleeping and saying.
DJMcMayhem
DJMcMayhem
(no pun intended)
Adám
Adám
22:03
@DJMcMayhem Yes, as stated in CMC.
Pavel
Pavel
@Adám No I had no idea until you asked and I checked
Quintec
Quintec
I tried this in Java, gave up when I realized there would be an exception
DJMcMayhem
DJMcMayhem
I couldn't tell if you meant "(0 to k-1) or (1 to k)" or "any combination"
Erik the Outgolfer
Erik the Outgolfer
lol "(0 or 1)…(k-1 or k)" apparently means the cartesian product of those
Adám
Adám
@DJMcMayhem It literally says you choose combination
DJMcMayhem
DJMcMayhem
22:04
@Adám Vim, 22 bytes: qqYp<C-a>0D@"gspqddC0<esc>@"@q
Pavel
Pavel
Deparse: say(sleep($_)) foreach (0 .. readline(ARGV));
DJMcMayhem
DJMcMayhem
No Stack Exchange, I'm not trying to ping Quintec and Quartata.
Erik the Outgolfer
Erik the Outgolfer
lol
Quintec
Quintec
I heard my name
Veskah
Veskah
0..$args[0]|%{$_;sleep $_}
Adám
Adám
22:06
I have 10 bytes in APL.
Pavel
Pavel
@Veskah please explain
Quintec
Quintec
I need to figure out how to sleep in APL
Adám
Adám
@Quintec ⎕DL (DeLay)
Quintec
Quintec
Ah, is that in seconds or millis?
Adám
Adám
@Quintec secs (but allows non-ints)
Quintec
Quintec
22:08
Cool thanks
Veskah
Veskah
@Pavel Powershell for the CMC. Pass it a number, makes a range where it implicitly outputs it then sleeps for that long
Pavel
Pavel
@Veskah I get ForEach-Object : Cannot bind parameter 'RemainingScripts'. Cannot convert the "4" value of type "System.Int32" to type "System.Management.Automation.ScriptBlock".
Veskah
Veskah
@Pavel Weird tio.run/##K8gvTy0qzkjNyfn/30BPTyWxKL042iC2RrVaJd66OCc1tUBBJb72//… TIO's run time correctly runs and shows 10sec taken (despite not being live)
Pavel
Pavel
Oh, it was my bad. Shell quoting error.
Veskah
Veskah
Ah
Quintec
Quintec
22:13
@Adám Does ⎕←⌊⎕DL¨⍳⊢ not work
Pavel
Pavel
@Quintec Have you tested it
Adám
Adám
@Quintec No, because it will collect all the results from ⎕DL¨ before getting to ⌊.
@Veskah It is live. It take just over 10 secs to run.
Pavel
Pavel
@Adám Live as in you see the oupt being produced
Not in a batch at the end
Adám
Adám
However, it will cache output, including the time.
Veskah
Veskah
@Pavel ^
Pavel
Pavel
22:16
As opposed to alive, i.e. tio is not on fire
Veskah
Veskah
"IT'S ALIVE!" - Dennis von Frankenstein
Adám
Adám
TIO is kind-of alive. Dennis is sitting there clicking on the appropriate REPL or compiler and pasting your code in every time you press ▶
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Pavel
Pavel
I think the only language running in a repl on TIO is dyalog
Erik the Outgolfer
Erik the Outgolfer
I think J too
Skidsdev
Skidsdev
there's a C# REPL too isn't there
Adám
Adám
22:21
@Pavel Dyalog Unicode actually doesn't. Only Classic.
Quintec
Quintec
Why is there a EOF interrupt then?
Adám
Adám
@Quintec Where?
Pavel
Pavel
22:34
@Skidsdev Not quite. While that is what most people use it for, csi and csharp are C# interpreters rather than just repls.
Quintec
Quintec
@Adám Everytime you run code on TIO with Dyalog Classic there's always a EOF interrupt
Downgoat
Downgoat
@ASCII-only should an override keyword be required for a function that overrides a parent function
Pavel
Pavel
Do you have a virtual keyword?
Downgoat
Downgoat
@Pavel no
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ASCII-only
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