The Nineteenth Byte

(In fact, you have about 4-6 badges more than me in each type, which is like nothing for bronze, a bit significant for silver, and really huge difference for gold :P)

ASCII-only

@HyperNeutrino Do people get other gold tag badges before code-golf O_o

HyperNeutrino

apparently people often do? not sure

wait I didn't know you had code-golf gold @Mr.Xcoder nice

Mr. Xcoder

@ASCII-only No, normal badges

ASCII-only

@Mr.Xcoder Oh :| you don't have gold badges yet

HyperNeutrino

oh cool you got it this past saturday congrats :D

@ASCII-only no he has 4, I have none

Mr. Xcoder

1:28 PM

@ASCII-only ಠ__ಠ

HyperNeutrino

In fact, as caird pointed out, I'm the highest reputation user without any gold badges :P

ASCII-only

79/100 for fanatic yay

No idea now though, maybe mobile app

HyperNeutrino

(I would have fanatic if they didn't delete my account when I was at 97/100 ಠ_ಠ)

Mr. Xcoder

Oct 7 at 10:39, by Mr. Xcoder

Yup

HyperNeutrino

I have 200 score left for code-golf and about 40 questions over the requirement

Mr. Xcoder

1:29 PM

@HyperNeutrino Btw I have the primes tag badge

Not sure how

HyperNeutrino

If the OEIS challenge were code-golf I might have a much higher score lol

@Mr.Xcoder which one?

Mr. Xcoder

I think I will solve Tetranacci numbers in Swift :-)

Hope I don't get ninja'd

@HyperNeutrino BTW nice work on that crazy sequence :-)

HyperNeutrino

^ Thanks :)

Mr. Xcoder

CMC: Given a String K, palindromize it using the following rules. If K is palindrome, output it as-is. Else, output K[:-1] + K[::-1] (every character of K until the last one + K reversed.

HyperNeutrino

(jelly's bounce atom)

Mr. Xcoder

1:38 PM

@HyperNeutrino Nope.

HyperNeutrino

(not quite but that will be useful)

Mr. Xcoder

okay

HyperNeutrino

Jelly, 6 bytes: ¹ŒḄŒḂ?

dzaima

@Mr.Xcoder SOGL, 3 bytes if ρ - is palindrome was implemented. Implementing it now

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino why the identity?

HyperNeutrino

1:39 PM

Because ? requires it

tio.run/##y0rNyan8///opIc7WkBEk/3///@VMoCi@Qrl@UU5KUoA

<if><else><condition>?

Mr. Xcoder

ಠ_ಠ Jelly

HyperNeutrino

yup default links should be a thing

(todo: make enlist do that to win :P)

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino wait pls tell me enlist is not tacit

HyperNeutrino

It is

Mr. Xcoder

:'-(

dzaima

1:41 PM

@dzaima wait what it's implemented? it just doesn't work..?

oh. I thought I implemented StringBuilder in the SOGLs JS version?

HyperNeutrino

@Mr.Xcoder why sad-face

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino Another language I am going to have trouble learning...

HyperNeutrino

lol

it's very similar to jelly

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino Hence the:

23 secs ago, by Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino Another language I am going to have trouble learning...

dzaima

@dzaima that works offline :p

HyperNeutrino

1:44 PM

Yeah well since you already know Jelly, it won't be as hard to learn (logic)

Mr. Xcoder

ಠ_ಠ you already know Jelly - You cannot simply know Jelly...

HyperNeutrino

true

NieDzejkob

Why does it not calculate A76 properly? I'm starting to think that the OEIS entry is wrong

OK, some stuff can be negative

nevermind

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mr.Xcoder wat

Mr. Xcoder

@EriktheOutgolfer What is unclear?

Erik the Outgolfer

1:47 PM

why it isn't just ŒḄ in jelly?

HyperNeutrino

@EriktheOutgolfer because that bounces palindromes as well

Mr. Xcoder

@EriktheOutgolfer Because you have to handle palindromes

Erik the Outgolfer

oh

then 6 bytes...oh wait I was going to write hyper's lol

Mr. Xcoder

NOOOO.... Ninja'd

NieDzejkob

oh... next page of answers... great

Erik the Outgolfer

1:50 PM

brachylog, 8 bytes: .↔|⟨kc↔⟩

HyperNeutrino

@Mr.Xcoder whoops forgot about that rule lol

(maybe that's better for the challenge because the next one would have been yet another graph challenge lol)

Mr. Xcoder

> Number of even sequences with period 2n (bisection of A000011).

Does this one seem better to you, I don't think so

HyperNeutrino

Yes it actually does.

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino How is this one... easier?

HyperNeutrino

because graphs are much less efficient to work with

Dennis

1:57 PM

@NieDzejkob Bubblegum was never meant to be competitive.

HyperNeutrino

:o the summoning worked!

(:P)

Dennis

@Mego zlib is DEFLATE with a 2-byte header and a 4-byte footer.

Mr. Xcoder

@Dennis Sorry for bothering you, but as of now, does Jelly lack anything M has?

Dennis

A symbolic datatype.

Mr. Xcoder

oh ok...

I was about to get a heart attack... WTH Stack exchange...

HyperNeutrino

2:00 PM

?

Mr. Xcoder

HyperNeutrino

Also I take back what I said; I don't understand the next sequence.

Mr. Xcoder

... due to caching

HyperNeutrino

@Mr.Xcoder images blocked on my school wifi; pasteboard?

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino Pasteboard.

HyperNeutrino

2:01 PM

cool thanks

owow :o :P

Mr. Xcoder

I wish that happened for real...

HyperNeutrino

that would be awesome :P

ASCII-only

@Mr.Xcoder It can

Mr. Xcoder

I have never received a bounty and though I just got one

ASCII-only

Multiple sites, multiple days, or an answer was accepted

HyperNeutrino

2:02 PM

(or a bounty)

also the next time I go onto SO and ninja newbie questions, I should leave my achievements button and let it stack up for a while like cuz last time I did that I got a total of +348 reputation in one day :P

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino :O what tag on SO?

HyperNeutrino

mostly Python

Mr. Xcoder

Oh so that kind of questions... Write a list comprehension for me?

HyperNeutrino

essentially "why doesn't calling a function work when I don't put brackets around it?" answer: it isn't Ruby

Damn it, caching. Got a +120 (not nearly as impressive but still)

ASCII-only

@HyperNeutrino Nor Charcoal nor VSL

HyperNeutrino

2:08 PM

:P

Wait VSL lets you call functions without placing brackets?

ASCII-only

VSL doesn't actually exist yet, but pretty much, yes

HyperNeutrino

@Mr.Xcoder I think you can post your swift answer now

@ASCII-only ah ok

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino No I can't...

HyperNeutrino

Still not an hour yet?

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino No, I just don't know the next sequence

Downgoat

2:09 PM

@HyperNeutrino kinda sorta

HyperNeutrino

wait nvm

i thought you deleted because of timing

but actually it was cuz ninja >_>_>_>

Downgoat

> doesn’t exist

> vsl-lang/VSL.git

ASCII-only

@Downgoat :| you know what i mean

Downgoat

No not really >_<

HyperNeutrino

(Current Enlist Functions): Suggestions for functions?

ASCII-only

2:11 PM

@HyperNeutrino Yep

HyperNeutrino

wait what did you just do

ASCII-only

header magic

HyperNeutrino

did you just... make a function append its argument to its name

ASCII-only

yes.

HyperNeutrino

lolol

that's just great +1

ASCII-only

2:13 PM

Doorknob did it earlier IIRC

HyperNeutrino

oh i see

ASCII-only

2

A: Write a short story using only valid code

Ruby, A LOT (44124 - 20 * 4 + 15 * 1 = 44504 points??) "Short" story? Ha. So long that it's too long for a Stack Exchange answer! I had to remove about half of it because of the maximum character limit :( Full code can be found here. It does not output anything. (Before, it for some reason cras...

HyperNeutrino

oo cool

why tf is this syntax invalid

oh, brackets

im dumb

ASCII-only

@HyperNeutrino :P

HyperNeutrino

yup :P

Mr. Xcoder

2:27 PM

CMC: Given a number, multiply it by itself palindromized (even if it is palindrome, palindromize it)

Yes, input can be taken as a String.

124 -> 1540204

121 -> 1466641

5 bytes in Jelly (for me).

HyperNeutrino

palindromized as in lambda x: x[:-1] + x[::-1]?

Emigna

@Mr.Xcoder 05AB1E, 2 bytes: û*

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino yes.

@Emigna of course. Somewhat similar to my most recent 05AB1E answer on Main :-)

HyperNeutrino

Jelly, 5 bytes: DŒḄḌ×

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino I had ŒḄV×V and input as a String.

HyperNeutrino

2:33 PM

Ah okay, I see.

Mr. Xcoder

@Hyper up for a bit of JHT (not much)?

HyperNeutrino

Sorry, not now. Doing history stuff

Mr. Xcoder

ಠ_ಠ History again.... /s

Did you notice that Bill Steihn has stopped posting stuff on Aug 30?

HyperNeutrino

well history is first period, and then second period is a spare, great for doing history homework that was assigned at the end of class

Mr. Xcoder

I have to record myself reading stuff from a paper as history homework

HyperNeutrino

2:38 PM

>_>

how is that even useful >_>

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino Then I must incorporate it into a 15 minute video... Regarding a historical building in the city....

And I must also record the video, get some music and take photographs

The most stupid HW I have ever seen

HyperNeutrino

wtf that sounds stupid and boring

NieDzejkob

I totally agree

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino It is very stupid and very boring, that is exactly why I hate history

HyperNeutrino

yeah my teacher somehow makes class interesting but homework is still boring af

Mr. Xcoder

2:42 PM

My teacher is the most boring teacher ever... And she's rather annoying

HyperNeutrino

rip

NieDzejkob

Don't say a teacher is most boring in the world until you meet mine

I hate history because of that and because it's practically just "memorize this"

Mr. Xcoder

@NieDzejkob Can't get worse. She's also very bad when it comes to history!!!

@NieDzejkob True.

El'endia Starman

Have either of you seen the Extra History videos on Youtube? (Channel is Extra Credits.)

Mr. Xcoder

@El'endiaStarman yes, but I do find that uninteresting nonetheless.

HyperNeutrino

2:45 PM

(lol the library is like the loudest place in the school and it's annoying because there are people speaking loudly in both english and mandarin which distracts me terribly)

(it's almost funny hearing the person next to me complain about stuff and being dumb lol)

Mr. Xcoder

Does anyone here watch Kurzgesagt (In a Nutshell) on YT?

Anonymous

Eww gross the new top bar infected PPCG

Anonymous

CMC: create a userscript to restore the old top bar

Mithrandir

that would be great

Mr. Xcoder

Wow the new search button is incredibly awful

Dennis

2:49 PM

You get used to it.

Mithrandir

@Dennis I haven't so far...

Mr. Xcoder

Nor did I.

HyperNeutrino

@Mr.Xcoder yes :D

aaaaaaaaah someone pls make gradscript revert this

Mr. Xcoder

I love that channel

HyperNeutrino

this looks quite awkward with gradscript

Mithrandir

2:51 PM

(and I've been using it for the past week :/)

HyperNeutrino

anyway brb

ASCII-only

@HyperNeutrino revert what

NieDzejkob

wtf is the new topbar?

HyperNeutrino

@Mithrandir they gave mods the new bar early right? or something

@ASCII-only the new bar

Dennis

@Mr.Xcoder We mods have had it for three weeks now.

El'endia Starman

2:51 PM

@HyperNeutrino Yep, on the sites they mod.

HyperNeutrino

ah ok

anyway brb o/

ASCII-only

@Mithrandir ~~CMC: find the old topbar~~ wait archive.org is a thing

Mr. Xcoder

@Dennis Umm, why?

Dennis

Guinea pigs.

El'endia Starman

I've grown to like it. They actually improved the topbar UI a bit within the first week or so of its rollout for mods.

Mr. Xcoder

2:52 PM

@Dennis Huh?

Dennis

The only thing that still bothers me is the new site switcher.

@Mr.Xcoder SE decided to make all mods ~~guinea pigs~~ beta testers on the sites they moderate.

ASCII-only

@Dennis *canaries

Mr. Xcoder

Oh ok... But you don't have any word to say against new features either right?

Dennis

No, but we brought up a few issues. Some of them were fixed before today.

Mr. Xcoder

Nice.

Dennis

2:56 PM

@ASCII-only trial rabbits

Anonymous

@Dennis Please subscribe to unlock full-featured rabbits

Dennis

https://translate.google.com/#de/en/Versuchskaninchen
https://translate.google.com/#en/de/trial%20rabbit

Mr. Xcoder

Lol :o

Dennis

Nice chain: trial rabbit -> Versuchskaninchen -> guinea pig -> Meerschweinchen

HyperNeutrino

what does Meerschweinchen translate to?

Dennis

3:00 PM

Guinea pig.

HyperNeutrino

oh

Dennis

CMC: Longest Google Translate back-and-forth between two languages.

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino Guinea Pig.

Ninja'd

Dennis

(repeatedly click the arrows to go forth)

HyperNeutrino

(this might work well in Chinese because from experience Chinese <-> English translation is trash)

Luis Mendo

3:04 PM

It looks like the top bar of PPCG was finally updated to look more like SO's (thus worse). At least I just noticed it today

HyperNeutrino

17 mins ago, by Mego

Eww gross the new top bar infected PPCG

Luis Mendo

> infected

HyperNeutrino

they're screwing around with our design...

Luis Mendo

:-D

HyperNeutrino

yet they still don't give us a design...

Mr. Xcoder

3:08 PM

@HyperNeutrino let's refrain from criticizing the liars.

HyperNeutrino

?

Mr. Xcoder

as in Let's be patient with that design we all know is never going to come

HyperNeutrino

lol

Luis Mendo

I have to admit that the badge counts (circles and numbers) look good with the dark background. Much better than in Stack Overflow

Anonymous

@Dennis You can also get used to poison, but that doesn't make it good :P

caird coinheringaahing

3:21 PM

Eww, just saw the new top bar. How do I get rid of it?

DJMcMayhem

I guess I'm in the minority cause I don't think it's that bad >_>

John Dvorak

` en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_(web_browser)

caird coinheringaahing

Well, there's no way to modify the userscript settings anymore :(

Ugh, just turned the userscript off by accident and saw how ugly the site is without it. Thank you Downgoat!

Anonymous

Most useful userscript for the new top bar: $(".js-review-button").html("review");

NieDzejkob

How does one define the Jacobi symbol (a/n) for negative a?

New Sandboxed Posts

3:32 PM

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Demolish a string! code-golf string random Challenge Given a string input, output the demolished version of it. The Process P r Pr r o o o g g g r r r rogr r a -> a -> a -> a -> a -> -> -> ...

Anonymous

Kronecker symbol

In number theory, the Kronecker symbol, written as ( a n ) {\displaystyle \left({\frac {a}{n}}\right)} or ( a | n ) {\displaystyle (a|n)} , is a generalization of the Jacobi symbol to all integers n {\displaystyle n} . It was introduced by Leopold Kronecker (1885, page 770). == Definition == Let ...

NieDzejkob

I was thinking about the "nominator", I'm not sure if that still applies...

Anonymous

Technically there's nothing in the definition of the Jacobi symbol that requires a to be positive, but the Kronecker symbol is the generalization.

NieDzejkob

4:01 PM

OK, thanks, I think I got it

and A95 is done!

caird coinheringaahing

Hmm, just saw someone roughly my age code something I couldn't even understand in a week, showing just how powerful programming languages can be. Now to do my basic maths homework with those languages! :P

HyperNeutrino

nooooo tangent numbers again

DJMcMayhem

Tangent numbers? As in, the tangent function?

Anonymous

4:16 PM

A182?

HyperNeutrino

oeis.org/A000411

did chat just die for all of you as well?

caird coinheringaahing

Nope

HyperNeutrino

huh

my school's wifi is screwed up

caird coinheringaahing

What do you mean by die?

HyperNeutrino

it timed out and then wouldn't load

the rest of StackExchange and all other sites worked fine

Anonymous

4:20 PM

@HyperNeutrino That's a finite sequence though

HyperNeutrino

oh it is? cool

Anonymous

At least, finite in the sense that nobody has computed past 12

caird coinheringaahing

I smell hardcoding :P

Anonymous

Oh wait they're not finite

HyperNeutrino

it's been computed up to 184...

Anonymous

4:27 PM

For A411, you need to compute the L_{-6} Dirichlet L-series. Thankfully, they can be expressed in terms of Kronecker symbols: L_k(n) = sum(n=[1..inf]){(k/n)*n**(-s)} (where (k/n) is the Kronecker symbol).

Anonymous

So L_{-6}(n) = sum(n=[1..inf]){(6/n)*n**(-s)}

NieDzejkob

this sequence was done already but for a different number than 6

Anonymous

Oh? Then it should be easy

HyperNeutrino

I think it was d(n,2) last time and d(6,n) this time which makes it more significantly different.

anyway gtg o/

caird coinheringaahing

Lunch time over? o/

DJMcMayhem

5:00 PM

CMP: How many SE sites have you earned rep on? (Ignoring the association bonus)

Anonymous

@DJMcMayhem 22

caird coinheringaahing

@DJMcMayhem 12

El'endia Starman

@DJMcMayhem Looks like 22 for me.

Anonymous

PPCG, Arqade, MSE, SO, Worldbuilding, Software Engineering, Math, FOS, CR, M&TV, A51, B&CG, RPG, InfoSec, Apple, SU, SF&F, Ubuntu, CV, EE, CS, Physics

El'endia Starman

Unlike Mego, I'm not going to write them out. You can just look at them here: stackexchange.com/users/507502/elendia-starman?tab=accounts :P

caird coinheringaahing

5:03 PM

> German Language: 116 reputation
4 badges
0 questions
0 answers
0 posts edited

Something's wrong here :P

Anonymous

@cairdcoinheringaahing 8 accepted edits, 1 answer downvote cast by you

DJMcMayhem

33 here.

caird coinheringaahing

@Mego 0 posts edited

Anonymous

@cairdcoinheringaahing I don't think suggested edits count toward that number

DJMcMayhem

PPCG, Vi, ELL, SO, Arqade, SFF, Literature, U&L, Hardware Recommendations, Interpersonal Skills, Super User, Information Security, MSE, Skeptics, Puzzling, Game Development, The Great Outdoors, Ask Ubuntu, A51, CR, Software Engineering, ELU, Christianity, Stack Overflow em Português, Mathematics, Server Fault, Worldbuilding, Music: Practice & Theory, Stack Overflow на русском, Music Fans, Movies & TV, Chemistry, Arduino,

caird coinheringaahing

5:05 PM

Although, if I go on that account, it says I have a question. From April, so its not caching. Weird

DJMcMayhem

And that's in order of rep

Anonymous

@DJMcMayhem I can't stand IPS. Every question that makes it to HNQ is basically "I don't like this person - how do I not talk to them?" or "I feel offended about something - how do I communicate that?"

NieDzejkob

@DJMcMayhem 7

DJMcMayhem

@Mego Yeah, I agree. The idea is fine, but it suffers from the problem PPCG has (too many answers in general) because everything there is very opinion based

Anonymous

The answer to every IPS question is "have a mature conversation with the other person/people". The whole site can be closed as a dupe.

19

caird coinheringaahing

5:06 PM

@Mego Sometimes IPS has some good questions (totally not talking about mine :P)

Anonymous

@cairdcoinheringaahing Your question has the same answer :P

caird coinheringaahing

@Mego And it worked. Profit!

Anonymous

@cairdcoinheringaahing Yep, now close it as a dupe of the rest of the site

caird coinheringaahing

@Mego Unfortunately, I can't VTC

Anonymous

IPS is an exceedingly poor fit for the SE model. There's no expertise. There's only opinions and very specific scenarios.

caird coinheringaahing

5:09 PM

cough We can't really talk cough

Erik the Outgolfer

5:31 PM

whoops sorry for the inactivity I just couldn't find where the heck is the "chat" button in the new design

3

:p

Anonymous

@EriktheOutgolfer Next to the site name in the network dropdown menu; where it always has been

Erik the Outgolfer

it's a joke btw

I just loathe the new design so much

also...where is the dropdown menu? ;p

Anonymous

On the right, which makes zero sense and goes against normal web design

Anonymous

Hamburger menus go on the left

Erik the Outgolfer

depends on what language you read

rtl languages should have to the right I think

Anonymous

5:34 PM

The vast majority of SE traffic is from English-speaking areas

Erik the Outgolfer

but stack exchange is an english community so it makes absolutely no sense

well, at least now we've finally got a link to "stackexchange.com"...except if you're in stack overflow

Anonymous

5:50 PM

@EriktheOutgolfer There was a link in the old drop-down menu

Erik the Outgolfer

I mean directly there though?

Anonymous

IIRC clicking on "Stack Exchange Communities" or whatever it said above the list of SE sites would take you there

Anonymous

Just how often do you need to go to stackexchange.com?

Erik the Outgolfer

not very often, but I feel weird if I'm not able to go to it with a single click...but overall the new design is just change just for the sake of change

Anonymous

Yeah, I'm not a fan of it for that reason

Anonymous

5:53 PM

Also the fact that SE didn't give the community a say in whether or not they wanted it

Erik the Outgolfer

yep

imo there were enough downvotes on that question to just, well, not do change for the sake of...well, just change?

imo a ui is still good enough even though it might feel a bit "old"

Anonymous

The only other MSO post from SE staff that I've seen with so many downvotes is Joel's political rant

Erik the Outgolfer

for me that's not an "only reason" to change

caird coinheringaahing

The new design is still better than the mobile app :P

DJMcMayhem

Amen

Anonymous

5:57 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing Most things are better than mobile apps

DJMcMayhem

The mobile app is horrible. I only have it for the push notifications, the mobile site is so much better

Anonymous

My cat's litter box looks better than most mobile apps

4

DJMcMayhem

Except it doesn't have comment flaggin

NieDzejkob

Why don't they make the app look like the mobile site?

Anonymous

Huh, lowbrow poop jokes = stars

3

Erik the Outgolfer

5:58 PM

@NieDzejkob why should they degrade it

DJMcMayhem

Apparently

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Q: WHY SO COMPARISON

The challenge is to find the maxium number without the use of any comparison operator. Input Two integers to compare. Output The maximum integer from the given input. Example (I'll leave it at one, because this is pretty straight forward) INPUT : 10 9 OUTPUT : 10 Rules You may not u...

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mego I'd call it the revolutionary spirit against the "new, shiny" (read: awful as heck uselessly "renewed") design

caird coinheringaahing

@NewMainPosts 2015 called, they want their "Do X without Y" question back

3

HyperNeutrino

ugh this will take me forever to get used to having rep changes on the right rather than the left

Anonymous

6:00 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing 1980 left a message - they also want their egregious use of caps back :P

caird coinheringaahing

@Mego NO!

Anonymous

Not sure if yelling or COBOL

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mego 1970 left a message - they want their old lifestyle back ;)

caird coinheringaahing

<insert time> left a message: They want us to stop this

> Search: without is:q closed:1
165 results

That's not good :P

Erik the Outgolfer

if I were 3000 years in the future I'd still prefer a 3000-year old design with the slightest adaptations possible rather than a "needlessly modernized every few years" design

@cairdcoinheringaahing the sidebar next to the text field doesn't mention the "things to avoid when writing challenges" meta post

dessert

6:42 PM

Does anybody know whether there's already somebody working on a userscript for a more practical alternative to the new top bar?

New Main Posts

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Q: Squares, so many squares

Task Imagine you have a square! matrix, where each cell is filled with either black(1) or white(0) Design an algorithm to find the maximum subsquare such that all four borders are filled with black pixels Examples : Let's say we have a 2x2 matrix: INPUT 0011 (0 = White, Black = 1) same lik...

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