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2:00 PM
also the whole thing's specifically designed to run on Fedora, I'm running Debian
 
right now I think it's just hosting 2 html5 games I made for gamejams
one of which is unfinished cos I ran out of time
 
@Mayube -1
 
2:04 PM
:P
 
@Mayube goes to dt.html
undefined
undefined
ok
 
lol why did you go to dt.html?
 
Don't run TIO docker as a mirror without being extremely careful. You can't run SELinux from inside a docker container so someone could potentially compromise your host :P
 
that's the unfinished game btw
 
@Mayube nice main page btw 10/10 would hire
@Mayube how do i play yay errors
 
2:06 PM
> Bent Spoon
???
 
what even is the main page anymore
lol
Main page
@HyperNeutrino name of the dev team behind pxls.space
 
^ not even kidding best idea ever @Mayube
 
sounds like it would be 95% data collection though
I want a project that's mostly dev work
 
fair enough lol
 
2:16 PM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

HyperNeutrinoDeep Search a list code-golf decision-problem Given a list an a term, determine if the term appears anywhere in the list. This includes nested within lists nested within the input list. Note that if the input term is a list, you still need to determine if it appears inside the list. Your program...

 
^ pls feedback
 
@ASCII-only I was actually working on a browser-based space 4x game with the idea being that it could be inconspicuously played in an office environment :P
 
@Mayube ಠ_ಠ
 
2:19 PM
I mean
 
Paper "proving" that P != NP was released today
 
except it was an async onlne style game
hmm 15 seconds in the spotlight
a site like chat roulette or omegle, except everyone gets 15 seconds of video in front of everyone else on the site to do as they please
 
0
Q: Binary Magic Cards

Julian LachnietThere's a cool magic trick that works using the power of binary. The effect of the trick is as follows: An audience member chooses some natural number in the range of 1 to x where x is chosen by the magician. The magician hands the audience member some special cards. Each card contains some num...

 
would be bandwidth intensive though
 
@Mayube unless you use hypervision
@mınxomaτ :( server is dead
 
2:23 PM
That has been gone a loooooong time now
 
@mınxomaτ O_o lurker jumps out of seat
 
eeh, that's still mostly data collection, plus that'd require data that only walmart has
 
@Mayube no it's called outsourcing :P people would submit maps
 
eeh
still
bit boring
especially considering I live in a country that doesn't have walmart
 
not just walmart
imagine finding your nearest AAAA batteries in any store at all
 
2:36 PM
but there's nothing saying that map will still be up to date
stores re-arrange all the time
 
gps isn't exactly accurate so it would need something like this though
@Mayube i guess, but they don't rearrange that often
 
ones near me do
like it's a contest to see how confused they can make their customers
 
@ASCII-only wtf is AAAA battery O_o are those rela
 
@Mayube that's their intention :P
@Downgoat yes.
I spent 1 hour today looking for one for my stylus
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Are you around?
 
2:38 PM
It was in the snake thing in front of the checkout >_>
 
> snake thing
??
 
@Mr.Xcoder yes why?
(jht or pyth? :p)
 
like the thing that makes the 2m from the checkout seem like 2km because you have to walk so much further
 
@EriktheOutgolfer As you seem to have understood, can you check if my answer is valid?
@EriktheOutgolfer None of them :)
 
@Mr.Xcoder oh on the (a & b) > 0 thingy
 
2:40 PM
@EriktheOutgolfer Yes
 
@ASCII-only I am at work. I always have the TNB tab pinned
 
@ASCII-only Is english your native language? I'm just asking because queue and snake are the same word in german :)
 
@flawr so you are a german queue
 
=P
 
@Mr.Xcoder seems valid
 
2:41 PM
 
it's actually a blindworm / slow worm, whatever you wanna call it.
 
@mınxomaτ :| ok
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Thanks ._.
 
@HyperNeutrino D: I just checked and it said viperine grass snake
 
2:43 PM
uwat D:
 
@ASCII-only I just put a skin condition in there and it returned "fruit" lol
 
Cthulhu will be hosted online (hopefully), on Tio (probably?) as well as an online interpreter :)
 
@flawr yes english is my native language :|
 
2:44 PM
@flawr oh noes it's not deterministic
 
Yay! - Making the HTML better shortly
 
@Downgoat like the thing that makes the 6'8" from the checkout seem like 1.2mi because you have to walk so much further
 
Ohh ok
 
@Mr.Xcoder I have a html page for an interpreter frontend sitting around somewhere, for until you make your own
 
2:45 PM
@EriktheOutgolfer +1 to wolfram
 
Let's see what I am
 
I'm a <drumroll> cat
 
> Tell ImageIdentify how it did: [Great!] [Could be better] [Missed the point] [What the heck?!]
 
2:46 PM
@Downgoat Couldn't be better
 
wait huh I hit repcap yesterday? ???
 
2:47 PM
> Hmm.. Is one of these better? [receiver] [radio receiver] [clock radio]
 
@ASCII-only that's a lot nicer than mine :P
 
the heck?!?!
 
@HyperNeutrino Me too ._.
 
2:48 PM
@ASCII-only I saw
Wolfram is broken
 
@Mr.Xcoder yes. yes it is
 
I started hitting repcap without doing much lately. For example, I have +110 today with only 1 crappy answer
 
imageidentify.com/result/0lgpu1uucx784 lol (at least it got it almost right)
 
Now I gotta learn JS
 
@Mr.Xcoder just give a human js transpiler the python and i can port it EDIT: wait it's on github
 
This is, well, interesting: imageidentify.com/result/1jc3w4ma0g7bn
 
2:51 PM
@Mr.Xcoder why are you Mr Xcodee but avatar is python, is exestential crisis?
 
@ASCII-only No. I really wanna learn JS (I already know a bit)
 
@StepHen Not too unreasonable
 
@Mr.Xcoder good choice
 
@Downgoat No...
 
2:51 PM
@Mr.Xcoder ok so it's like python just with ;, {} and Problem, but Downgoat and I agree 150% that JS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Python snek
 
I am a person :(
 
Wait you can have problem var in python?
 
Wait, I wonder what totallyhuman is
 
So apparently by the transitive property, Pac-Man = Charlie Brown
 
I will say, sometimes I wish that I could use Python OOP on web
 
2:52 PM
Though ; is optional in JS
 
@Mr.Xcoder Definitely not a robot
 
@BusinessCat no, when you make Pac-Man bigger, he becomes Charlie Brown
 
@StepHen So Pac-Man < Charlie Brown?
 
@BusinessCat Not according to Wolfram :)
 
2:53 PM
@StepHen It's called brython/skulpt
 
@BusinessCat So Dennis = Charlie Brown?
 
@ASCII-only sorry, i thought i saw a sheep and got spooked and messed up a little
 
Or maybe Pac-Man ⊂ Charlie Brown
@HyperNeutrino Dennis = Pac-Man, Dennis = Charlie Brown, therefore Pac-Man = Charlie Brown
 
@ASCII-only oh no that is a horrible scary invention pls no
 
2:54 PM
anyone know an esolang that can read integers or characters from STDIN, but that reads 0 if there is no integer?
 
@StepHen C
Pretty esoteric
 
@BusinessCat or maybe Dennis ∈ Pac-Man, Dennis ∈ Charlie Brown, Dennis ∈ Pac-Man ∩ Charlie Brown
 
@Mr.Xcoder Totallysaveicon
 
@StepHen Use brainfuck: You can use the ascii code as integer input, so you exclusively have intergers
 
:D verbose mode
 
@Downgoat why so happy? i usually use it
 
@trichoplax I think many of those questions where you can vote on those things have contradicting suggestions by the same person, I don' think it matters a lot:)
 
@ASCII-only because i can understand over 42;87$Nufnwfiunäëöč
 
@Downgoat You just tried a picture with a goat in a normal position (in the wolfram image "recognizer")... Existential Crisis?
 
2:58 PM
@ASCII-only what's the non-verbose version of that? :P
 
Bye all!
 
@ASCII-only forgot Charcoal prints ASCII as-is :/
@totallyafloppydisk hi
 
@StepHen What is this for
 
3:02 PM
Oh and » after that to parse error out (I still think this is amazing, kudos to DLosc)
 
@HyperNeutrino phew I thought you linked to spam so that we can red flag or something...
 
@EriktheOutgolfer o woops
@ASCII-only answers -1 times
 
@ASCII-only what does the » do? (Or, what's the command to end the program?)
 
3:09 PM
@StepHen closing brace = parse error
@HyperNeutrino damnit how could you
 
@ASCII-only answered
 
@Downgoat those can all be statically hosted :|
 
@ASCII-only ah sweet
 
btw I'm the one who answered "make a site to host CMPs" and the one that was "wait you can submit multiple responses ._. yay"
 
3:10 PM
@ASCII-only opls you need goat meme generator which need backend
 
@Downgoat oh yay downgo.at is like $20/year you should get it
only two people answered chat minipoll DD:
@StepHen When would you get no input for that though
 
@ASCII-only plans changed, I used a different sequence
but I wanted to do the sequence where it trims off the first digit
then I realized that wouldn't work anyway
@ASCII-only crud that breaks Python 2
how do you set an encoding in Python 2 again?
 
#coding?
not sure, I never do anyway
 
@StepHen #coding:utf-8
 
Thanks. Now I have to go back and rerun them all again :/ w/e
 
3:19 PM
hey we haven't had a KoTH in a while. ideas?
someone should make a koth
 
@HyperNeutrino yeah I have an idea, but I'm too lazy to implement it
 
lol I could if you want me to, depends on the idea :P
 
you take something like trichoplax's ant one
 
oh nope too lazy to implement something like that
 
take out the workers, the random directions, and the no-stacking
 
3:20 PM
ok
 
and make it so the ants write colors, and then run GoL after each tick
 
somehow figure out how colors spread
 
@StepHen bash
 
yup I'm slightly too lazy :P
 
3:21 PM
@ASCII-only well it's more the copying of the TIO links that makes the process long :P
 
@StepHen I could do that because I already have GoL in JS lol
 
if you want to do it feel free, I'm too lazy and I'm starting college in a week
 
Just need to modify a bit for multiple colors, but it'd probably have to be turn based
 
yeah my idea's not to specced out, but it'd be cool to watch
 
@HyperNeutrino It hasn't been that long codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/135102/…
 
3:23 PM
the catch is figuring out what color new ones are
 
eh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

UmbrellaMy first attempt at a code-golf challenge. I gave this one at work and liked it. I've been browsing meta for a while trying to find rules, and found they're pretty scattered across different threads. Is there a main rules thread? Anyway, one thing I did learn was that we're supposed to sandbo...

 
@ASCII-only ok there we go, thanks for the help
 
@StepHen Oh any color counts as alive? then just have ant colors equally spaced in the color spectrum + rgb average :P
 
@ASCII-only no, I mean when a new cell becomes alive, how do you figure out which color around it "birthed" it? :P
 
3:27 PM
@StepHen yeah rgb average the colors
 
I need to read
that's a great idea :)
 
score depends on closeness to player color
@StepHen :| did you need to put the parse error at the end of the program lol
 
@ASCII-only no but I'm planning to add another line at some point
you'd have to randomize colors for each game to prevent bots that are close in color from working together, although you could tell them colors and have them coded to work with similar colors
 
Wait :O could this be a real cooperative KotH
 
yeah
and you could even make it so there's no teams, but colors close on RGB would be better off working together
 
3:32 PM
Yeah
The hardest part would probably be positioning
 
@ASCII-only I won't implement it, so if you want to implement it, Sandbox it, and post it, feel free :)
 
But I guess we can always just limit players
 
positioning where?
 
@StepHen in rgb
 
@ASCII-only oh yeah, gotcha
 
3:34 PM
The best we can do is probably an approximate sphere
 
maybe multiple independent copies of each bot? 8 players, but 8 copies of each player
or something like that, although that might make it too easy for bots to not team up with other players
@ASCII-only maybe do HSV instead?
 
@StepHen that probably works a lot better
Especially if we just use hue
 
yup - stick a player every 10/20/30 degrees
 
hue hue hue
 
what languages use "#" as a comment? Python, Ruby, Perl; what else?
 
3:45 PM
PHP
And brain-flak ;)
 
I was just about to say that, ha
 
Proton
 
golfscript
 
uh can you make the TIO PHP interpreter assume that it's inside <?php ?>?
 
@StepHen scripting langs
 
3:50 PM
Just put the tag in the header
 
@StepHen bash, zsh, fish
 
It's allowed to be run with -r, but you have to pass the program as a command-line argument for that
 
@BusinessCat then it's not a polyglot...
ok :/ guess PHP won't work
thanks for all the langs guys :)
 
You could write a bash script that calls it with -r
I dunno how to do TIO bash though
 
@BusinessCat just bash on TIO >_>
 
3:54 PM
@StepHen PowerShell
 
CMC: Given a positive integer, generate the cross product of the range up to that number (any of the 4 ranges) and itself
 
now to figure out how to differentiate between input from 2 different keyboards on linux...
 
@HyperNeutrino Do you mean dot product? Cross product is only defined for vectors in 3 dimensions
 
not cross product. outer product table
CARTESIAN PRODUCT
that's what it was called ._.
 
Gaia: ┅:×
 
4:01 PM
nice
Jelly: p
Proton: (range,range)+*cartesianproduct
 
┅2* also works in Gaia
 
4:26 PM
@HyperNeutrino you going to undelete that once you fix something, or no?
 
next sequence is too hard
 
ah
 
@HyperNeutrino What's next?
 
he's switching what's next, I believe
 
Hmm, so if I'm reading /dev/input/eventX to get inputs from a specific device, how can I prevent Xorg from also responding to those inputs? Can I demux the device from Xorg's virtual master keyboard?
 
4:28 PM
next was "centered hydrocarbons" but I made it Lucas Numbers (like 1000 times easier)
 
@HyperNeutrino cQuents: =2,1:z+y
 
yup
it's just fib with a different starting term
(well actually, fib is just a subset of lucas numbers)
I wanted to make function composition nice for golfing but lambdas are actually almost always shorter D':
 
Yeah, starting at 0 1 instead of 2 1
looks randomly - sees they're #1
 
Looks like @NieDzejkob is getting a bounty when caird gets back :P
 
@StepHen If caird wants to join us again :)
 
4:33 PM
@Mr.Xcoder ?
 
He seems quite tortured by the fact he doesn't have access
 
ah I see; would that not make him more inclined to join us again.
 
Like, he was there in the background in TNB and JHT for the entire period
@HyperNeutrino It actually would, yeah
 
yeah and also we might want to discuss something else now :)
 
like taxes
 
4:35 PM
@HyperNeutrino Time for CMCs and how I get utterly outgolfed
 
no, discussing suspensions is more on-topic than anything to do with the government I didn't say anything ._.
CMC: Given a number, determine whether or not it is a triangular number
 
@HyperNeutrino I just printed my paycheck and only got like 3/4ths of my pay, that's all :P
 
The Cthulhu interpreter begins to look as an interpreter
 
@HyperNeutrino cQuents: ?z+$
 
@StepHen keep in mind that income tax can get up to almost 50% in some areas :P
@StepHen o nice
 
4:37 PM
@HyperNeutrino to get the nth triangular number, ;$
@HyperNeutrino yeah, but I'm not making that much :P
 
HINT: A number is triangular if 8n+1 is a square
 
o so ? is just is element of strictly increasing sequence?
 
@HyperNeutrino yes
 
@Mr.Xcoder ._. that would have been nice to know earlier... cool
 
it's supposed to be of sequence in general, but I don't have code that would say "oh this sequence is bouncing around but it's definitely not in it" yet
 
4:38 PM
@HyperNeutrino Did you attempt it in Jelly without knowing that or so?
 
@HyperNeutrino Gaia: 8×)ụ
 
@BusinessCat ha I tied a SBCS lang yay
 
Jelly: ƽב$=
 
@HyperNeutrino jelly, 5 bytes: 8בƲ
 
@StepHen Would be more impressive if the SBCS lang was actually good
 
4:39 PM
Or now that I know about the trick, 8בƲ darn it you beat me to it
 
@BusinessCat like Jelly? I beat Jelly >:)
 
SOGL, 7 bytes: 8*I√:u= (don't run as my very very inefficient code is calculating the square root to 1000 decimal digits :p)
 
Why does Pyth on Tio use SBCS if it is ascii-only >_>
 
@Mr.Xcoder you called? :P
 
@HyperNeutrino Jelly, 5 bytes without using the formula: RS$€ċ
 
4:41 PM
nice
 
Jelly must have a builtin for "is this a perfect square" because otherwise there's no way that formula ties otherwise
 
it does
 
@StepHen Ʋ
 
but it's 2 bytes :(
 
CMC: Given a list, return the inverse suffixes.
 
4:43 PM
?
 
[1,2,3,4,5] -> [[5], [5, 4], [5, 4, 3], [5, 4, 3, 2], [5, 4, 3, 2, 1]]
@HyperNeutrino patience Hyper, patience
 
U;\ or ;\U
 
@HyperNeutrino Yay, Pyth is just as short: .__
 
lol
Aug 10 at 0:42, by ASCII-only
Patience, young Padawan
 
@HyperNeutrino You impacient :C - Have time for JHT?
 
4:46 PM
@Mr.Xcoder SOGL, 6 bytes: Xf№}¹№
 
not right now :( I'm working on something else rn
 
@dzaima Wow, that's golfy
Is reverse?
 
@Mr.Xcoder reverse lists items or factorial
 
Ok
@HyperNeutrino U;\
 
CMC: Prefixes of suffixes. Example: [1, 2, 3] -> [[[3]], [[2], [2, 3]], [[1], [1, 2], [1, 2, 3]]]
 
4:48 PM
;O
 
I see you struggling with markdown too ;P
 
@HyperNeutrino Shouldn't that be [1, 2, 3] -> [[[1], [1, 2], [1, 2, 3]], [[2], [2, 3]], [[3]]]? Can we choose the order?
 
@dzaima did you steal that character from Charcoal :P
 
@Mr.Xcoder no you should use the order I gave even though it's apparently wrong :P
 
@HyperNeutrino gotta love the new quick huh?
 
4:50 PM
@ASCII-only no; I created the codepage before I knew anything about charcoal (or much of golfing at all)
 
@HyperNeutrino No, the order is ok.
 
@dzaima I must have stolen it from the future from SOGL then
 
@EriktheOutgolfer yup :3 never used it yet tho
 
@HyperNeutrino 11 bytes in Pyth (can be shortened 100 %): m__._d_M.__
UNDERSCORE ABUSE!
 
4:52 PM
lol
 
So many underscores ಠ_____ಠ
 
o nice
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Wrong order?
 
@Mr.Xcoder no?
oh you mean there are singleton a instead of [a] in some places? yeah that's because of `;`
 
4:53 PM
@EriktheOutgolfer [[[3]], [[2], [2, 3]], [[1], [1, 2], [1, 2, 3]]] ≠[[1, [1, 2], [1, 2, 3]], [2, [2, 3]], [3]]
 
for me it returns [[1, [1, 2], [1, 2, 3]], [2, [2, 3]], [3]]
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Still, it isn't the same
 
@HyperNeutrino Gaia: ┅v…¦
 
4:54 PM
@EriktheOutgolfer Fixed: ;\ÐƤṚ
 
ninja'd
 
@HyperNeutrino Nope, look at Erik's
 
@Mr.Xcoder the last part is formatting
 
mine also has Ẏ€€ which wraps an in the examples
 
Oh yeah, anyway I like :)))))))))
 
yup :3
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Too bad there is no pure atom for prefixes :) - They're amazing anyway
 

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