The Nineteenth Byte

user165474

05:00

Oh I see.

user165474

Alright, thanks.

Wheat Wizard

For the purposes of this challenge -A and -c are the same

user165474

I see. Yeah, no input.

Wheat Wizard

you should also know about -r which reverses output

user165474

Oh, cool. Are there any other flags?

Wheat Wizard

05:01

It is a pretty good golfing tool for Kolmo style questions

user165474

I see.

Wheat Wizard

--help

user165474

xD

Wheat Wizard

will list all the flags and what they do

user165474

Alright.

user165474

05:01

Though I don't think BrainFlak/Flueue is a good golfing language in general (no offense :D)

user165474

It's too long for things xD

Dennis

That's because it's not a golfing language.

user165474

Yeah. It's a turing-tarpit esolang

user165474

Typically golfing languages have more than 8 instructions :P

Wheat Wizard

I'm offended that you could even say such a thing :p

user165474

05:03

:P

user165474

Is there a thingything to generate code to make a specific stack (of multiple numbers) in BrainFlak

Wheat Wizard

Kindof

user165474

?

Wheat Wizard

I've written a program to do this but this is an insanely difficult task to do and requires a lot of creative and abstract thinking.

user165474

I see.

Wheat Wizard

05:09

I can get you the program but even a beginner could probably beat it at anything non-trivial

user165474

I feel like using a generating thingything would be cheating because that's pretty much all there is to my solution.

user165474

Wait, do both languages pop from the same side?

Wheat Wizard

yes

and loops {...} check on the same side

user165474

I see.

user165474

Shoot, then my answer won't work :(

Wheat Wizard

05:10

Other wise it would still be stacks just upside down

user165474

True...

Wheat Wizard

which would not be distinguishable

user165474

Wait, but it pushes to different sides?

Wheat Wizard

yes

user165474

Oh, then it would work...maybe?

user165474

05:11

Testing something first.

Wheat Wizard

(...) pushes to the bottom in Brain-flueue and to the top in Brain-flak

user165474

I see.

user165474

And both pop off the top?

Wheat Wizard

yes

Ok I have class in less than 7 hours so I have to sleep, but first I will leave you with 2 tips:

user165474

lol same ^

user165474

05:13

Alright thanks

Wheat Wizard

1) Read DJMcMayhem's tip on height nilads his example doesn't work but this is a really useful technique.

user165474

Oh cool, that's interesting. I forgot about that nilad

Wheat Wizard

2) When you golf kolmo it is almost always better to put your differences in front.
e.g.
( ( (()()()()) ()()()) ()()())
vs

(()()() (()()() (()()()()) ) )

user165474

Oh, I see.

Wheat Wizard

That way you can use the result of the previous computation to influence future computation

user165474

05:16

Alright.

Wheat Wizard

((()()()) ({} (()()()()) ) )

user165474

I see.

user165474

Alright, thanks.

Wheat Wizard

There is a bit more nuance there but I'm tired. g,night and g,luck

user165474

Alright. Goodnight. Thanks! :)

Destructible Lemon

05:31

is phoenix pavel/grigori?

user165474

Seems right.

Phoenix

Yes

user165474

@WheatWizard It turns out that Riley's answer does exactly what I wanted to do >_> so yeah I probably won't be submitting an answer to the question. I might have been inspired to use BrainFlak/BrainFlueue more though :) (I hope I didn't wake you up with the ping btw)

Phoenix

You can test with the -lbrainflueue argument btw

user165474

Yep. Thanks.

Phoenix

05:35

Also supported are brain flak classic and mini flak

(-lclassic and -lminiflak)

user165474

Oh cool.

Leaky Nun

@Mego I'm a male

@Mego nah I just did it for fun

@DJMcMayhem congratulations!

@Sherlock9 well how's it then?

@Downgoat you're welcome

user165474

o.O

user165474

When you ping 5 people at once (4 unique)

Leaky Nun

@HyperNeutrino have you changed your name? I don't recognize...

user165474

05:44

I used to be Alex L.

Leaky Nun

when?

user165474

I think about 5 months ago or so? I can't quite remember.

Leaky Nun

when did you join this room?

Mendeleev

@LeakyNun Welcome back!

Leaky Nun

@Mendeleev thank you

user165474

05:46

Is there a way to find that?

Mendeleev

How did the exam go?

Leaky Nun

@HyperNeutrino never mind

Anonymous

@LeakyNun Welcome back! Good to have you back!

Leaky Nun

@Mendeleev not bad

@Mego thank you

now I got 148738751 notifications to read

Anonymous

That number seems low

user165474

05:46

Alright. I think it was about 3-4 months ago? IIRC. Then that would be about the same time I changed my username

Leaky Nun

@Mego nah I just mean inbox messages

@HyperNeutrino then I shouldn't recognize you

user165474

Alright.

user165474

You've been away for a while from PPCG?

Leaky Nun

8 months

user165474

Ah. I see. Good to have you back then!

Leaky Nun

05:48

thanks

user165474

If I disappeared for 8 months I'd probably get 3 notifications :P

Leaky Nun

so... what should I do now? @Mego

when did you get italics?

Anonymous

@LeakyNun I pressed <C-i> and it just happened. Weird.

Leaky Nun

@Mego I'm serious

Anonymous

A couple of months ago. We had an election for new room owners. DJ, minxomat, and myself were elected.

Leaky Nun

05:51

I see

how are your languages?

Phoenix

o/

user165474

\o

Anonymous

@LeakyNun Actually is the only language I've put any effort into so far. It's improving. I'm in the middle of a huge refactor.

Phoenix

I take a 10 minute nap and I miss the big event!

Leaky Nun

@Mego actually what? ;)

user165474

05:55

Hah when you're like "brb" and then you miss something in those 10 minutes rip :P

Anonymous

@LeakyNun It's like you never left

user165474

@Mego Actually? Is that Seriously all you've been working on?

Anonymous

@HyperNeutrino Kenny gets a pass because he's been gone for nearly a year. You don't :P

Leaky Nun

@Mego it's Obviously not

Phoenix

Anyway, while you were gone, PPCG was taken over by evil sheep.

user165474

05:57

:( aww

Anonymous

@Phoenix It was pretty baaaad

user165474

@Mego Why do you get a pass then? :'(

Anonymous

Because I'm clever :P

Anonymous

Also I don't get a pass

Phoenix

They haven't found TNB yet, so this is where we're planning our rebellion.

user165474

05:58

Oh alright.

user165474

I noticed that the levdist between the sandbox questionID and TNB chatroomID is 1

user165474

Which is the character that's missing from 240 compared to 2140

user165474

And there's 1 eye in the triangle...i'll stop

Phoenix

It's all a part of the sheep conspiracy

user165474

:D

Destructible Lemon

06:00

@HyperNeutrino no, you see, what he meant is a pass for making actually/seriously "puns" (hardly even wordplay, really)

Phoenix

I wonder if @Downgoat is asleep

user165474

Oh okay.

user165474

No, not wordplay, but they're both languages made by Mego

user165474

I just changed my username, but it shouldn't be too big of an issue (though it changes my chat display name for people with small monitors)

Phoenix

I see that you have added a space

user165474

06:04

Yes :P

user165474

Hopefully people aren't like "Oh who is this new person? I don't recognize him!"

Leaky Nun

sorry

user165474

no i mean about my username change

user165474

It's alright you just got back :P

Phoenix

Why such a long hiatus, anyway?

Leaky Nun

06:08

exam is important

Phoenix

That was a lot of months though

Leaky Nun

indeed

Phoenix

What exam was it?

Leaky Nun

hkdse

Phoenix

Hope you did well!

Leaky Nun

06:12

thanks

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Q: Challenge Similarity Detector

Challenge Given two question IDs, try to figure out how similar they are by looking at the answers. Details You will be given two question IDs for codegolf.stackexchange.com; you may assume that there exist questions for both IDs that are not deleted, but are not necessarily open. You must run...

Leaky Nun

I guess I'll have to learn the languages again

Phoenix

There haven't really been any breakthroughs in golfing languages

Jelly is still king

Leaky Nun

lol

Phoenix

Dennis still has over twice the rep of everyone, except martin ender

Leaky Nun

06:26

oh lemme check the reps

very well

I'm #37 now

Phoenix

That's pretty good, all things considered.

Leaky Nun

not good

I used to be top ten

Phoenix

Being gone for several months does that

user165474

Looking at the Leaky Nun's rep graph, it's pretty much a steeper line and then abruptly a shallower line

user165474

Yay I'm 239th :D

Helka Homba

06:41

@HyperNeutrino In "with a line above and below it" I assume you mean empty line but 4-space indented code blocks don't need an empty line below, just above

user165474

Oh hm. I'll change that then.

Helka Homba

and if people are reading the markdown, literal <code> blocks will be missed too (though those are much less common so maybe not a big deal)

user165474

True. I guess if they read the HTML, using <code> blocks would make more sense than the markdown.

Helka Homba

And if an answer has multiple code blocks, take the first one? (Maybe you said that in there and I missed it)

user165474

Actually, how many people actually add stuff before their actual solution?

Helka Homba

06:45

lots

user165474

Yes, I intended to say that, but I didn't explicitly state it

user165474

Okay, so then I can't quite change the specs that way...hm...

Leaky Nun

@HelkaHomba hi

Helka Homba

hi

Phoenix

How long ago did you change your username?

Helka Homba

06:47

I've been back and forth from Calvin to Helka a few times

ATaco

Oh my gosh Leaky Nun is back!

user165474

Wait you're Calvin?

Phoenix

Calvin's Hobbies

Helka Homba

right

user165474

>_> I never noticed xD

Phoenix

06:49

evrytim

user165474

?

ATaco

I probably was un-noticable when leaky nun left.

Now I'm the guy who made a bunch of neat Userscripts.

user165474

I have 6 of your userscripts running right now xD

user165474

I don't have the grad script running... I really need to get that

user165474

@HelkaHomba I never knew you were an MC youtuber :D

Leaky Nun

06:53

@ATaco what was your name

@DJMcMayhem hi

ATaco

I've always been ATaco here.

I think you're only interaction with me was helping me golf one of my Lua answers.

Leaky Nun

lol

user165474

He's been around for about as long as you've not xD

Kritixi Lithos

s/you're/your/

Phoenix

You should check out his userscripts for chat

ATaco

06:54

Convenient Link

Leaky Nun

where are they?

oh thanks

user165474

Convenient Link is convenient :D

ATaco

I'm practically advertising now, I should stop.

mınxomaτ

Yes

user165474

s/dont/don't

Kritixi Lithos

06:57

@ATaco How did you make your avatar?

ATaco

@KritixiLithos I didn't, I stole it from the internet.

Helka Homba

@HyperNeutrino :)

@LeakyNun I have a vague memory that your name is an anagram but now I'm not so sure...

user165474

Btw is the PPCG MC server still up? I haven't tried connecting in a while but the last time I tried it didn't work.

DJMcMayhem

@LeakyNun Welcome back :)

I didn't respond earlier cause I was busy, but I'm here now

ATaco

@HyperNeutrino If I recall, it shut down some time ago.

DJMcMayhem

06:59

It's good to see you again!

user165474

Alright.

Phoenix

@HyperNeutrino it has a new IP

user165474

Oh.

Phoenix

Mendeleev has taken over hosting it

user165474

Ah I see.

Phoenix

07:00

Don't know what it is though

Helka Homba

@HyperNeutrino Well not by me. (There were a few incarnations so I'm not sure which one you mean) @Mendeleev is hosting a clone of the latest PPCGMC server

user165474

Ok. I don't have time for MC anymore though xD

Phoenix

Ninja'd

user165474

xD

user165474

Anyway.

Leaky Nun

07:01

@DJMcMayhem me too

user165474

Sorry to spawn the discussion here

user165474

I should go to sleep now xD 0300

Helka Homba

in Open PPCG Minecraft Server, Mar 15 at 3:35, by Helka Homba

@Mendeleev has prolonged the server at dk0.us and chat relay here. (It's up to him how long it stays up.)

ATaco

The relay was frozenated.

user165474

rip the relay

user165474

07:04

The server itself seems to have been inactive lately, or the bot died

user165474

Alright I'm going to go to sleep now. Too tired xD Goodnight everyone! o/

Phoenix

\o

Leaky Nun

@HelkaHomba @DJMcMayhem wt challenge can i do?

@Downgoat hi

Anonymous

The trick/treat halloween polyglot challenge is a nice easy one to start with to get back in the groove

ATaco

If writing Polyglots is your thing.

Quines I can write, Polyglots seem to always end up as just Comment abuse, when I right them.

Anonymous

07:09

Given how many languages he knows/has used, polyglots should be right up his alley :P

ATaco

"Two different versions of a language" can probably be abused a little.

For example: Does a brainfuck derivative count as a version of Brainfuck? What about one like Brian and Chuck that swerved unimaginably off course.

Leaky Nun

@Mego link?

Anonymous

141

Q: Trick or Treat polyglot

Since Halloween is coming up I though I might start a fun little code golf challenge! The challenge is quite simple. You have to write a program that outputs either trick or treat. "The twist?" you may ask. Well let me explain: You program has to do the following: Be compilable / runnable in ...

code-golf string polyglot

Newly Featured Questions

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Q: Golfing end-to-end encryption

This challenge carries a bounty of 200 points for the first to answer and remain unbeaten for at least 3 days. There's a lot of talk lately about end-to-end encryption, and pressure on companies to remove it from their products. I'm not interested in the rights-and-wrongs of that, but I wond...

code-golf networking encryption

Leaky Nun

07:26

@Mego nah i forgot many languages already

and there isn't exactly any good questions on the first page

Kritixi Lithos

@LeakyNun There are three relatively recent polyglot challenges, all posted around the same time

Bassdrop Cumberwubwubwub

08:32

visited 504 days, 106 consecutive

will i get another fanatic medal at 200 days or do i need to reset my streak

Anonymous

You only get Fanatic once

Fatalize

08:51

YOGFO

2

Leaky Nun

@Fatalize bonjour

Fatalize

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

Leaky Nun

what

Fatalize

hides before getting criticized on the lack of new Brachylog features

Leaky Nun

lol

Fatalize

08:52

I thought you were gone forever

Leaky Nun

I did say 8 months

Fatalize

Got ahead of you by only 500 rep even though you weren't there for 8 months……………

Leaky Nun

lol

Fatalize

09:07

So will you be gone for 8 months again in September?

Leaky Nun

I won't

Luis Mendo

09:30

@LeakyNun Welcome back! We missed you! How did the examinations go?

Leaky Nun

@LuisMendo not bad

thanks

@LuisMendo how is your language?

Luis Mendo

Rather mature, I guess :-)

Leaky Nun

that's nice

New Sandboxed Posts

09:52

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Perfect Palindromes code-golf palindrome number Your task is to determine how much of a perfect palindrome a number is. Your typical palindrome (eg 12321) is a perfect palindrome, its perfectness is 1. To determine the perfectness of a number, you see how many sections you can split it into whe...

Adnan

10:42

@LeakyNun hey welcome back! :)

Leaky Nun

@Adnan thanks

Erik the Outgolfer

Welcome back @LeakyNun!

Leaky Nun

@EriktheOutgolfer thanks

Destructible Lemon

yo

Qwerp-Derp

@LeakyNun Welcome back!

I need help with Clojure, if anyone on knows Clojure

Leaky Nun

10:56

@Qwerp-Derp what was your username?

Qwerp-Derp

@LeakyNun DerpfacePython

Leaky Nun

I see

Destructible Lemon

soundcloud.com/destructible-lemon/…

@HyperNeutrino @ais523 @Mendeleev ^

New Sandboxed Posts

11:12

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Snooker scoring In the game of snooker there are certain rules that you must adhere too: When there are red balls on the table, during your turn you must first pot a red ball After each red ball, you must pot a colored ball After all the red balls are up (there are 15) you can first choose a c...

New Main Posts

11:35

4

Q: Backwards and forwards polyglot quine!

You must make a polyglot that outputs its source code in one language and its source code backward in another. Unlike the normal rules, you are allowed to read the current file or use a builtin to get the source code of your submission and reverse that in one language. Good luck!

code-golf quine polyglot

Erik the Outgolfer

Please close this as too broad.

Leaky Nun

@EriktheOutgolfer why is it too broad?

Erik the Outgolfer

@LeakyNun It doesn't even ban palindromic source codes and it allows builtins.

Lembik

hi all

is it ok to copy codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/506/… and replace it with Euler's constant?

Jan Dvorak

@EriktheOutgolfer I'd suggest commenting first

Erik the Outgolfer

11:44

@Lembik I don't think so.

Lembik

oh.. so ... err... how would one ask a similar question about Euler's constant?

Erik the Outgolfer

@JanDvorak I've commented and VTC'd for the moment.

@Lembik I don't know if it will technically be a dupe, but I think that if we continuously ask (500 digits of x, 500 digits of y, 500 digits of z...) the community will get bored of it.

@EriktheOutgolfer OK question has been fixed don't VTC (mine is retracted).

Lembik

@EriktheOutgolfer makes sense

Qwerp-Derp

12:11

Yes I did it!!!

(defn -infix
    "Helper function for macro 'infix'"
    [items]
    (println items)
    (let [operand-1 (first items)
          operator (second items)
          operand-2 (last items)]
      (cond
        (list? operand-1)
        (lazy-seq (assoc (vec items) 0 (-infix operand-1)))
        (list? operand-2)
        (lazy-seq (assoc (vec items) 2 (-infix operand-2)))
        :else
        ((resolve operator) operand-1 operand-2))))

(defmacro infix
  "Converts infix to prefix"
  [items]
  (let [operand-1 (first items)

I made an infix thing using defmacro in Clojure!!!

user165474

Yay :D

Leaky Nun

12:27

$\sqrt{1-x^2}$

@ATaco doesn't give me chat preview

user165474

Are the scripts enabled? Did you restart your browser after installing them?

Leaky Nun

let me try restarting

@HyperNeutrino $\sqrt{1-x^2}$

wow it works perfectly

user165474

Yay :D

user165474

I made that mistake the first time I installed them as well. :P

Jan Dvorak

These scripts require a browser restart to work? Why? O_o

New Main Posts

12:34

2

Q: Create a simple line editor

In: a string Allow the user to edit Out: the modified string The editor must at minimum allow the user to: move a visible cursor left and right insert and/or overwrite characters at the cursor position remove characters at the cursor position submit the new string (of course) Appreciated, bu...

code-golf string

-2

Q: C Program By Using aFunction

Write a C function that take two strings (array of characters) and return one if the 1st is part of the 2nd and zero otherwise. Sample Input hello helloworld Sample Output 1

array-manipulation

user165474

I'm not sure if it's a browser restart or a webpage reboot

Jan Dvorak

The latter would make sense

betseg

@NewMainPosts 6 bytes: strstr

Leaky Nun

@betseg lol

user165474

+1

ATaco

12:46

Oh good, I didn't need to save the day

Also, it should usually just require a webpage refresh

Qwerp-Derp

I'm wondering if I should make a bounty for someone who can solve this in a "loop" of more than two languages - for example, language A outputs "This program wasn't made for language A, it was made for language B!", language B outputs "This program wasn't made for language B, it was made for language C!" and so on

New Main Posts

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Q: Perfect Palindromes

Your task is to determine how much of a perfect palindrome a string is. Your typical palindrome (eg 12321) is a perfect palindrome, its perfectness is 1. To determine the perfectness of a string, you see how many sections you can split it into where each section is a palindrome. If there are amb...

code-golf string palindrome

user165474

@Qwerp-Derp That would be an invalid solution though. Unfortunately, even with creative bounty ideas, one must still comply with the original challenge.

Qwerp-Derp

@HyperNeutrino They could post a valid answer, and then post another separate answer after that which solves the bounty

But I looked down a little and there was already a 4 language loop

If I were to ask for a bounty I would probably ask for one in 10 languages...

betseg

I can do it with 5 languages?

user165474

12:50

@Qwerp-Derp True. I guess that would work.

betseg

@betseg aww some people already did what I thought I could do.

Conor O'Brien

@LeakyNun Hi! You back for a while, or just visiting?

Mitch Schwartz

@Lembik yeah it's dangerous to post things that look superficially similar to other things

Leaky Nun

@ConorO'Brien hi i'm back

Conor O'Brien

:D

Leaky Nun

12:59

@ConorO'Brien do you have a relevant meta post?

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