The Nineteenth Byte

TuxCopter

21:00

> Random noun of the Other random noun

Jan Dvorak

Plenty Of Enemies fits everything, too

TuxCopter

@JanDvorak Or there's Plenty Of Bullets for some shooters too

L3viathan

Programming of Errors

TuxCopter

Debugging of the Typos would be a great rage game too

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Defence of the Ancients

League of Legends

League of Rockets?

L3viathan

21:11

CoffeeScript: Great Operators

Alt-F4

Guys

People here that have reddit accounts, please help change the prequel meme into "legend27"

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No ಠ_ಠ

TuxCopter

:D The new PPCG logo is finished

Alt-F4

coords?

LegionMammal978

We need to do the 1px black border

TuxCopter

21:20

@Alt-F4 reddit.com/r/place/#x=797&y=238

Alt-F4

@TuxCopter i see

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Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise?

Conor O'Brien

did they get rid of the time restriction?

LegionMammal978

No, it's still there

Conor O'Brien

:o

I have no time restriction and I have no idea why

LegionMammal978

21:26

Refresh, and try to have only one r/place tab open at a time

That's a clientside bug, refresh and it won't be there

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Reload. You can place pixels only client side if you have no time restriction.

Ninja'd

Conor O'Brien

darn

Alt-F4

how do I make a DMZ in ESXi? @ThomasWard

I have tried making vSwitches and port groups, they just don't show up in the network selection menu

Thomas Ward

hm?

Alt-F4

First off, how do I make a host only network?

Thomas Ward

21:28

vSwitch + port group ( + VLANs if you want those), no uplink device.

Alt-F4

Have tried, does not show up in menu

Thomas Ward

@Alt-F4 what menu? What're you using to configure?

Alt-F4

BTW does PCI have enough bandwidth for gigabit?

Thomas Ward

@Alt-F4 yes.

Alt-F4

@ThomasWard Web client, VM network selection menu.

@ThomasWard I only get 80-90 Mb/s instead of 175 :(

Thomas Ward

21:29

@Alt-F4 that's less likely the PCI bus and more likely the network itself. Residential class internet right?

Alt-F4

@ThomasWard Yeah but if I use a direct connection the speed is 175 MB/s

Thomas Ward

anything through a pfSense is going to impact things because NAT.

Alt-F4

True, but I assumed that it would not be this big of a difference

Also, I have a couple of IP phones, why is asterisk so... strange?

Trying to get it set up in a VM

TuxCopter

21:47

Why do everyone think it should be POG on the logo

pls

Riker

What?

TuxCopter

reddit.com/r/place/#x=797&y=238

It's getting vandalized by closing the C

Riker

Holy shoot

We have that?

10/10

TuxCopter

Yup

L3viathan

Also from the flag on the right

TuxCopter

21:48

It took one day but we did it

Riker

Niiiiccccee

BF hello world next

TuxCopter

And on the left of it there's the remnant on the old version of the logo slowly getting eaten by Path of Exile

ckjbgames

Hello

TuxCopter

Yo

Riker

@TuxCopter huh

ckjbgames

21:50

Currently writing stuff in C++

TuxCopter

Anyway good night

Riker

Btw, if you can, help keep the unturned zombie head correct? It's the green head in the bottom left

@TuxCopter night

ckjbgames

Who's been writing programs for no apparent reason other than for enjoyment
I sure have

Jan Dvorak

22:07

"enjoyment" covers a lot of cases, including QoL userscripts, mild cheats, videogames or no reason at all. All check.

Down Christopher

Hello

What game now?

ckjbgames

@JanDvorak I guess it could be any of those

Down Christopher

Or are you talking about reddit

ckjbgames

@JanDvorak And more.

Down Christopher

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/56025/kerbal-space-program come joine me

ckjbgames

22:35

Well, no one seems to be here

See ya in a few

Down Christopher

22:45

bye

ASCII-only

Do we need to clean up green lattice now

Mistah Figgins

@TuxCopter I'm saddened by the fact that no potential answer is misspelled

Conor O'Brien

ok so did anyone realize that there's a link on blank.org?

ASCII-only

@ConorO'Brien blank.org/blankmore.html

Conor O'Brien

yeah I got there

ASCII-only

22:53

also no i didn't even know blank.org existed

Conor O'Brien

wow lol. I used to use it to test browser js in a clean environment at school

mınxomaτ

Awesome "Slingshot Channel" defamed by Daily Mail >:(

ASCII-only

@ConorO'Brien isn't there about:blank for that?

Conor O'Brien

doesn't work on IE

you can't open up console on the IE blank page

ASCII-only

@ConorO'Brien document.body.innerHTML = document.head.innerHTML = ''?

Conor O'Brien

22:55

right, but that takes too much time

Григорий Перельман

How is the logo in reddit place going?

ASCII-only

@ГригорийПерельман Finished twice, we had to move it

TuxCopter

@ГригорийПерельман Good, it's getting periodically vandalized but quickly fixed

ASCII-only

@ConorO'Brien Wait couldn't you write a blank html page yourself and just use that?

Conor O'Brien

I could, but why should I when I had blank.org?

Alt-F4

23:02

yay I just figured out how to JS playground

Now if only the web scripting language was Ruby, not JS...

TuxCopter

That would be bad

ASCII-only

@Alt-F4 How

Alt-F4

Why?

Lock down the system functions, etc.

Destructible Lemon

@TuxCopter I see we picked a different colour

TuxCopter

@DestructibleLemon Yeah

Alt-F4

23:04

@ASCII-only go to chrome, open new tab, type in about:blank

press F12

Destructible Lemon

nice job guys

Alt-F4

Still says "POG"

Maltysen

does anyone know how to run a shakespeare programming language file?

TuxCopter

@Alt-F4 Hm no

Maltysen

i can't find a working inteprreter

Jan Dvorak

23:05

TIO?

Destructible Lemon

Ooh, they did the prism thing in the void again

Alt-F4

ayyy'

Destructible Lemon

take that void!

Mistah Figgins

@DestructibleLemon ? Sorry, I'm a little out of the loop. What is this referring to?

Conor O'Brien

AC/DC

Alt-F4

23:08

@MistahFiggins /r/place

Destructible Lemon

Alt-F4

Still says "POG"

Destructible Lemon

not for me

Alt-F4

pog

PhiNotPi

It doesn't currently say pog

Conor O'Brien

23:12

I've undone it like twice

Jan Dvorak

@DestructibleLemon ` en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Side_of_the_Moon

orlp

do we know what u_v is?

Mistah Figgins

this thing is wierd

is it like a big image billboard?

I found waldo!

Alt-F4

yes

@MistahFiggins make a reddit account, then you can place one pixel every 5 minutes

This was made by 90k peopled working together, placing one pixel every 5 minutes

Robin was more fun though

ASCII-only

@Alt-F4 Before March 31

Mistah Figgins

23:18

I placed 1 white one in the very corner of the mona lisa

Alt-F4

Seriously?

You can't use new reddit accoutns?

That's dumb

Destructible Lemon

no

Alt-F4

although it would prevent tor account creation spamming and scripting

Destructible Lemon

otherwise they get people spamming new accounts

ASCII-only

@Alt-F4 ... bot prevention isn't dumb

Mistah Figgins

23:19

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I already have one

Alt-F4

good thing I had like 10 alts already

Mistah Figgins

:P

Alt-F4

@ASCII-only yeah I just realized

Mistah Figgins

how did you get it full screen?

Down Christopher

I tried to go into earth orbit in KSP I ended up in deep space orbit

Mistah Figgins

23:21

nevermind

orlp

I love /r/place

much better than the stupid button of last year

this actually gets people to cooporated in subreddits/communities

Alt-F4

@orlp Button was 4 years ago...?

mınxomaτ

This induced physical anger: soundcloud.com/ryan-block-10/comcastic-service

orlp

@Alt-F4 reddit.com/r/thebutton/top

2 it seems

not sure what they did last year

Alt-F4

Robin!

That was the most fun!!

I should set up a Robin instance sometime

Mistah Figgins

23:34

@mınxomaτ oh mah gawd

Helka Homba

@mınxomaτ Yeesh. Ditto.

Conor O'Brien

my mum spent an hour on the phone trying to figure out if a certain doctor worked for a company

mınxomaτ

I never had any trouble cancelling anything. My last provider even allowed me to cancel a few days after the deadline.

Helka Homba

Though, for the record, the couple times I've called comcast they've been generally helpful and adequate (and definitely not so pushy).

Mistah Figgins

This employee should be fired, probably. I hope (and think) that he is not a representation of how the company is as a whole

Alt-F4

23:36

@mınxomaτ O_o

orlp

THIS IS NOT EVERY COMCAST AGENT. COMCAST HAS AMAZING CUSTOMER SUPPORT AND ITA WRONG TO JUDGE THE WHOLE COMPANY BASED ON ONE BAD PHONE CALL. STOP PROMOTING HATE TOWARDS COMCAST. MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE

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mınxomaτ

@MistahFiggins I rather think it is. Employees in call center are specifically trained to fulfill a task, and sometimes their whole wage depends on it. So I think it's a systemic problem.

orlp

why hello there mr. astroturf

@MistahFiggins you've got it 100% backwards

Mistah Figgins

@orlp probably

orlp

these kind of calls are the result of systematic abuse by management

mınxomaτ

23:37

Also comcast has one of the lowest customer rating of any US company including the IRS.

Alt-F4

I am getting a feeling of punching people in the face

orlp

where you get written up if you do not convert % of calls

and written up means homeless

Mistah Figgins

that's messed up

Alt-F4

@mınxomaτ In our location, comcast is awesome, constant 175/12 mbps internet service, very rare disconnects

orlp

@Alt-F4 12 megs upload what

that's horrid

Alt-F4

23:38

@orlp Yes

@orlp Why?

mınxomaτ

Ewww cable. I'm so glad I'm finally on fiber, with good upload speeds.

Alt-F4

At my last house we had 12/3

orlp

@Alt-F4 because it means you're stuck in the 80s if you want to upload something?

Alt-F4

I wish we could have fiber 1000/1000 (also comcast)

Mistah Figgins

I mean, some people will not change their opinion. If you get the wrong callers, you are done.

mınxomaτ

23:39

Alt-F4

@orlp It's still very fast. It's as fast as the download speeds we would have on CenturyLink.

@mınxomaτ That makes me very jealous

mınxomaτ

Not quite symmetric, but still better.

Alt-F4

I had to stop listening to that call becaue it was enraging me too much

orlp

@Alt-F4 no, it's objectively bad

Alt-F4

@orlp Why?

orlp

23:41

you just have an american perspective

mınxomaτ

I'll be moving soon, and one of my top priorities is to get fibre again.

Alt-F4

It's not like we have a choice...

1000/1000 fiber is $300-500 a month

orlp

@Alt-F4 don't you love the american (tm) free market (tm)

Alt-F4

this is around 150

century link DSL is 6/2

orlp

YOU PAY 200 FOR THAT??

Alt-F4

23:41

more like 150, also I'm 15 years old so I don't personally pay it, my family does

orlp

I hope that's yearly

mınxomaτ

@Alt-F4 In a few states in Switzerland and Germany, 1G fibre is $80/m.

Alt-F4

@orlp Nope, monthly

orlp

at my mom's house

it's 500/500 for 60 euros / month

mınxomaτ

For my above connection I'm paying 20 € pm

Alt-F4

23:42

@mınxomaτ That's awesome, I wish the USA had European internet

orlp

@Alt-F4 comcast received billions to improve infrastructure

pocketed it

never improved it

Alt-F4

I live in a suburb of Seattle, so you would think that we would have good internet, and we do compared to other areas

Conor O'Brien

mine's 39.3 Mbps download / 11.1 Mbps upload according to google

Alt-F4

If I get an apartment I'm getting one with Wave G (?) service

orlp

@Alt-F4 but as long as comcast just spends a couple million on congress they're good to go

Alt-F4

23:43

@orlp yeah the monopoly and bad internet is bad

mınxomaτ

We also have a large ring network called DFN, which interconnects all major universities. If you live on campus, you get free gigabit internet.

Alt-F4

waveg.wavebroadband.com/services This service is basically fiber to apartment buildings in Seattle area. Price is 80/mo for gigabit.

orlp

'basically fiber'?

mınxomaτ

Along with Switzerland's Init7, DFN is one of the last truly net-neutral ISPs.

@Alt-F4 FTTB? FTTH?

Alt-F4

@mınxomaτ No idea.

Destructible Lemon

23:45

@orlp oh man the comcast hate isn't overblown

orlp

I doubt that they'd be able to deliver gigabit without fiber

Alt-F4

@orlp It's definitely fiber, not sure which type though.

orlp

@Alt-F4 what do you mean?

mınxomaτ

@orlp They could. With FTTB it's still possible to deliver GbE to every apartment in a building using run of the mill patch cables. I have FTTH and an optical end terminal in my apartment.

Alt-F4

Waaaaait

They dropped their prices!!!

I think it's 50/mo with 2 year contract

orlp

23:47

@mınxomaτ there's still fibre going to the building

you can't go more than a couple hundred metre with copper and get gigabit

mınxomaτ

@orlp That's literally what I just said.

orlp

@mınxomaτ "I doubt that they'd be able to deliver gigabit without fiber"

"They could"

except they can't

Alt-F4

I think this is the one we have right now:

mınxomaτ

And I qualified that with "FTTB".

quartata

@orlp 12 meg upload is pretty unusual here. I only have 2.

orlp

23:48

@mınxomaτ I read over that because I don't know what that is

@quartata I hope you never wish to upload images, video or livestream

mınxomaτ

Fibre to the building

orlp

@quartata or backup, or torrent

@mınxomaτ yeah that's what my point is though, if you're getting gigabit your building gets a fiber into it, can't avoid that

quartata

The highest among my friends is 40 I believe

orlp

I mean technically you can go way beyond gigabit speeds using post pidgeons and sd cards

quartata

haha

orlp

23:50

like 100grams of terabyte sd cards taped to a post pidgeon is a lot of bandwidth

but the ping would be terrible

mınxomaτ

@orlp And dropped packets are a nightmare to pick up again.

quartata

Wasn't there an RFC for this?

orlp

@mınxomaτ not to be confused with packets of droppings

@quartata I believe so

Alt-F4

@quartata 1149

quartata

Ah yep

Down Christopher

23:52

@mınxomaτ my speed is so much better 1.5 megs

orlp

"If 16 homing pigeons are given eight 512 GB SD cards each, and take an hour to reach their destination, the throughput of the transfer would be 145.6 Gbit/s."

Down Christopher

Whatif.xkcd?

orlp

there is one of those as well

what-if.xkcd.com/31

mınxomaτ

@DownChristopher megs is not a unit, but a multiplier. Mega what? Potatoes?

Mistah Figgins

@orlp African or European?

Down Christopher

23:53

@mınxomaτ megabit

Destructible Lemon

they made the real art!

Down Christopher

@DownChristopher no potatos

quartata

Man, I didn't find out about /r/place until it was too late

Mistah Figgins

what is this "potato"?

quartata

Now everyone's populated it and made bots

TuxCopter

23:55

Woah the osu! logo is getting violently destroyed

Destructible Lemon

@TuxCopter yay

quartata

Yay?

What's wrong with osu?

Destructible Lemon

yeah osu is too greedy

also bots

there are more accounts helping the osu logo than people subbed to osu apparently

TuxCopter

Well the osu! logo recovered quite well after the raid of the Black Void, but now they visibly gave up

ETHproductions

What the heck is happening to our logo now

TuxCopter

23:58

@ETHproductions Nothing

ETHproductions

Hmm, I blame caching

Conor O'Brien

did some mod go around clearing stars

I starred the location of the ppcg logo and now its gone

Down Christopher

:(

TuxCopter

Nah it's still there

Conor O'Brien

oh ok

TuxCopter

23:59

Just not on the top of the starboard

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