(Inspired by this comment on an old question.)
Background
An error quine (also known as a "Kimian quine") is a program which, when compiled or run, causes the compiler/interpreter/runtime to print an error message that has identical text to the program itself, and nothing else. For the purposes...
it has the most upvotes on the question right now (and is also the shortest answer on a code-golf and is nontrivial, so luckily it's an answer for which I'm not upset that it's being upvoted), and the question hit HNQ
@TimmyD that's OK; the "related" comments are mostly to add the question to the "linked" section two ways, but some people possibly look at them specifically
Can I assume SmileBASIC source code is in UTF-8? SmileBASIC is proving to be a particularly unique case for this ... Here it talks about its UTF-16 character set. I began noticing that none of the commands seem to contain these characters, also it does save ordinary text files to UTF-8 (see save(2)). I don't think it's actually reading/writing source code in UTF-16, but I can't prove it either way...
The commands ofc contain ascii (I had to shorten my message)
I could probably hack the file out of SmileBASIC, but I haven't seen anyone else do it, and I'm not super motivated to do it just to prove character encoding :p
Like I think what it does is read the UTF-8 string, convert it to UTF-16, then display it.
I'll write up a meta post, this is too much information for chat I think.
Isn't there some theorem that says if you have a number x and you perform a certain operation on it like 2x, then that range is guaranteed to have a prime? My Google-fu is failing me.
@quartata The thing is that is really isn't. On a personal level, we all have a very clear idea of what is noise and what is not, but those ideas vary wildly between two different individuals. There are folks who'd be happy to leave TNB as it is, those who'd be happy get get back to the noise level from 18 months ago, and those who'd prefer having on discussions/conversations that are actually related to PPCG in one way or another.
Well all I know is that making a list is not a good solution
Or really a solution at all. I think it would decreases the likelihood that people will comply when there's a ridiculous spaghetti mound of objective rules for something subjective as opposed to just asking people to use common sense
Furthermore I think those that make noise -- with maybe some exceptions -- agree that it's noise and move it when prompted, they just don't think of it themselves in the moment.
Don't know but I think part of the puzzle is encouraging people to respect gaps in the conversation more. That's usually where I see noise, not in the middle of actual conversation which people can just join in on instead
SMILEBasic is a 3DS application that lets you run their own flavour of BASIC called SmileBASIC. It's a pretty cool language, and might have some potential for code-golf, but I don't think a lot. The issue in measuring its source-code stems from the fact that we don't know if SmileBASIC saves its ...
re: TNB discussion: I have a strong feeling that the only reason that this site works (both PPCG and SE more generally) is that people disagree on what it does and what it's for, and TNB is likely similar
here in Utah, we've gotten a bunch of snow, but my uni (USU) only opened late (at 10). It's been some 10 years since they've actually closed due to snow
(not that I'm going to university, I just think its interesting)
I guess in a way I have the advantage of not really having much expectations of what this channel is for, so I just try to fit in with what the conversation's about (and/or start one which I suspect would be ontopic)
I personally think the conversation is offtopic and resent having to read it (and in fact went into the element inspector to delete at least one of the images, reducing the vertical space it takes up)
however, I don't think it's a distraction from the other conversations happening at the same time
Calculate {n} with Restricted Code
Where n is any real number, {n} is the greater of n and 1/n. For example, {1} = 1, {2} = 2, {1/10} = 10 and {-2} = -1/2.
Input is any valid mathematical expression. This may contain numbers (in base ten -- including decimals) and the signs '+', '-', '*' and '/...
ah, so its a matter of time? like, if you had less time to chat in here, the snow conversation may end up requiring enough attention (to read/ignore it), that it would hinder you from participating in the chat conversation?
which matches why Phi doesn't like it here: he wants to quickly read through the day's conversation, and that's not feasible
@EriktheOutgolfer This is a professional site. So we can't just put whatever we want, and this isn't reddit. The point of this question is because all or most chat on TNB is supposed to be "a serious PPCG-related conversation". — mbomb0072 hours ago
PPCG may be part of SE, which nominally is a place for professionals to gather and discuss code/whatnot, but there are literally zero people here who are professional golfers.
@redstarcoder Actually, that might be interesting. Try to coordinate a real-time challenge in a particular language. First to post a correct answer under a certain size wins. Hmm ... I'm going to try and Sandbox that.
@TimmyD I once got paid for writing a program that did golf scoring (among other functionality that was probably more important, but golf scoring was part of the spec)
@Geobits well, 100% on-topic hasn't ever happen, but its all about efficiency. You try to find sites that have the least amount of fluff (stuff you aren't interested in), so you can find the stuff you are interested in
but I define fluff that way, because there are lots of people here who like various off-topic things (such as the snow conversation for me)
FWIW, my experience with chat channels is that they start ontopic, because everyone is new
but over time they become more and more offtopic as people get to know each other and what they like talking about
and often this isn't a problem because the offtopic discussion is often halted if it looks like ontopic discussion might start
the amount of ontopic discussion that happens also tends to reduce over time, but this is partly because a chat room for it is most likely to become necessary when it's near a peak
so nearly all online discussions become less ontopicly active over time
@TimmyD (responding to the quote) the way I see it is .. if the chat seems to be primarily focused on something very important (or multiple on-topic things), don't interfere with off-topic chatter. Otherwise I find the environment to be a lot more pleasant with the typical discussion I see going on here.
@ais523 I find that most important things are discussed and solved when a project is younger in life. When it grows and develops, new important discussions are fewer and further between because they're simply less necessary
at least on IRC, it's a very well-known shorthand for "I'm not quite sure what you're saying, either because I'm too tired to parse it or because when I did, it ended up absurd; could you rephrase it so that I have a better idea of what you mean?"
a question that I should probably ask before it becomes a problem: if the maximum integer size in a language is proportional to the length of the program, can it be a programming langauge by PPCG's definition?
@flawr Most definitions of "professional" require compensation of some kind. If you know about a place that will pay me to shorten code, please do tell.
Programming Puzzles & Code Golf will someday graduate out of public beta, and it will get a new site design. Stack Exchange employees generally do all the design work and make the design decisions, but that doesn't mean we can't nudge them in the right direction when the time comes.
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Real-time Golfing Challenge
Inspired by a chat comment
The goal is to coordinate a set time that a challenge would be posted. Ideally provide enough lead time (e.g., via this sandbox post) to let people know that this challenge is upcoming. The challenge itself is kept secret until posting, so ...
OTOH, you're better-positioned than most people to nkow what types of jobs you'd enjoy; and a key goal for jobs is normally that you both enjoy them, and are good at htem
@quartata I was actually expecting and hoping that people would answer the why question, not just the which question. I agree that making a giant list of what is and what isn't noise will never work.
In the game Portal, there are glowing light platforms. These platforms are (supposedly) made of solid, compressed light. How can these realistically be made?
Just did a thing. You can now use open $(curl -Ls git.io/c4 | shuf | head -n1) to view a random surveillance camera (given that URLs are being handled by your browser).
Error (or warning) quine that's also a regular quine
(Inspired by this comment on an old question.)
Background
An error quine (also known as a "Kimian quine") is a program which, when compiled or run, causes the compiler/interpreter/runtime to print an error message that has identical text to ...
Oh and curl -Ls git.io/c4 | grep videostream | shuf | head -n1 | cut -d "/" -f3 gives you the address of a random admin control panel. Login with admin and no password and you can probably control the camera's movements.
@ais523 I think this was the case a year ago. The population was small enough that people could easily suspend noise as needed. Since we had a population explosion, that's increasingly less the case.
Generate an ascii-art non-intersecting path
This may be a dupe, seems too easy to not have been done, but I searched and no luck.
Given 2 integer inputs representing the size of the field, x and y, output a path through the field.
Example output for 5, 4:
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#
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The whole f...
10k years ago was around when people first started cultivating grains. So yeah, most people would be lost and alone. You can't make prophecy if there's nobody to prophecize to :(
@ais523 I've grown to dislike ?-only messages because oftentimes, it's hard or impossible to know what the question is. Also, this isn't IRC. I've never used IRC and have no idea what the standard conventions are there. You can't make such assumptions here.
While under a chat suspension, clicking on the star to star a message results in a notification saying that a user cannot vote while suspended.
But while attempting to star via the dropdown, it says the starring was successful.
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When you get a meeting invite and you are in both the "Required attendees" and the "Optional attendees" list, and the invite is from someone you don't really want to question, do you just go?
If it's really someone you don't want to question, then just go. The worst that happens is you waste a bit of time. The worst that happens if you don't go is you piss off someone you didn't even want to question, which probably won't turn out pleasantly.
(Inspired by this comment on an old question.)
Background
An error quine (also known as a "Kimian quine") is a program which, when compiled or run, causes the compiler/interpreter/runtime to print an error message that has identical text to the program itself, and nothing else. For the purposes...
Calculate {n} with Restricted Code
Where n is any real number, {n} is the greater of n and 1/n. For example, {1} = 1, {2} = 2, {1/10} = 10 and {-2} = -1/2.
Input is any valid mathematical expression. This may contain numbers (in base ten -- including decimals) and the signs '+', '-', '*' and '/...
Real-time Golfing Challenge
Inspired by a chat comment
The goal is to coordinate a set time that a challenge would be posted. Ideally provide enough lead time (e.g., via this sandbox post) to let people know that this challenge is upcoming. The challenge itself is kept secret until posting, so ...
In the game Portal, there are glowing light platforms. These platforms are (supposedly) made of solid, compressed light. How can these realistically be made?
Generate an ascii-art non-intersecting path
This may be a dupe, seems too easy to not have been done, but I searched and no luck.
Given 2 integer inputs representing the size of the field, x and y, output a path through the field.
Example output for 5, 4:
#
#
# ###
### #
The whole f...
While under a chat suspension, clicking on the star to star a message results in a notification saying that a user cannot vote while suspended.
But while attempting to star via the dropdown, it says the starring was successful.
You have starred and pinned this message.
Refreshing the page ...
