The Nineteenth Byte

Ashwin Gupta

07:07

I just want to clarify here, ASP.NET is basically the microsoft solution for hosting a webserver on windows? Its a PHP alternative sort of thing but only for windows?

@wat nice, I got the 750 ti

wat

@AshwinGupta yes

@AshwinGupta cool

@Sherlock9 what device?

Sherlock9

@wat Lenovo laptop, Intel i5, some sort of AMD GPU

Oh and running Firefox 50

wat

@Sherlock9 probably the firefox. have you tried chrome?

Sherlock9

I forget if I still have Chrome installed.

DJMcMayhem

I'll try it on my phone, since I'm curious

Sherlock9

07:13

chrome_elf.dll is missing. Sigh

I'll try it in UC Browser

Ashwin Gupta

@wat ty.

DJMcMayhem

On my phone I get 594.4 +/- 3.1%

Damn. My phone is powerful

wat

@AshwinGupta yw

Ashwin Gupta

so basically, i don't want to use it.

wat

@DJMcMayhem noice

I'm getting the OP3t soon (hopefully)

my parents think that since my phone can still make phone calls, it's good enough (iPhone 4s with a broken microphone, so it can't make phone calls without a headset)

Ashwin Gupta

07:15

Well actually, i need to first play with it for 10 minutes, find 50 things that piss me off, then add it to the ever-growing list of Microsoft products that I dislike.

@wat ouch. My iPhone 5 still works just fine, but I'm worried that this will be my fate in 1-2 years.

wat

I don't think I want to use this drive anymore

Ashwin Gupta

@wat what the hell.

wat

first half:

@AshwinGupta yeah it's pretty bad

and it's my main storage drive

Ashwin Gupta

oh my god. I mean what did you do....?

wat

Honestly? Nothing.

Ashwin Gupta

07:18

can you explain why the "health-status" is only yellow caution. That should be a flashing red "f***ed up!!!!*

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Q: Could you make me a hexagon please?

Today, we're going to make an ASCII hexagon. You must write a program or function that takes a positive integer n, and outputs a hexagon grid of size n, made up of asterisks. For example, a hexagon of size 2 looks like this: * * * * * * * While a hexagon of size 3 looks like this: * * * ...

wat

@AshwinGupta backslashes?

Ashwin Gupta

@wat yup hold on

DJMcMayhem

@NewMainPosts Thankyou!

wat

@AshwinGupta cool

Ashwin Gupta

07:19

xD

wat

@AshwinGupta honestly I don't see the main problem here

other than the fact that there are 198 pending sectors

everything else is at 0 mostly

Ashwin Gupta

@wat that is the problem.

Also, temperature, not big, but a little over.

what utility is that

Sherlock9

@wat In UC Browser, I get "Total: 382.4ms +/- 8.3%"

wat

@AshwinGupta CrystalDiskInfo - it's in the title bar

@Sherlock9 nice

Ashwin Gupta

@wat duh. Ty

also, the read-error rate is a bit high IMO

wat

07:22

yeah

Sherlock9

@wat Thanks. I don't really know what I just did, other than benchmarking, I guess, but thanks.

wat

@Sherlock9 it was just a bencmark

Ashwin Gupta

but for 5736 hours, that might be okay. I assume the drive is internal?

Sherlock9

Ah ok then

wat

@AshwinGupta Originally external, in unknown condition, now internal for 1.5+ years

Ashwin Gupta

07:23

@wat "unknown condition" should be your first indicator that something bad could be happening here. ;)

wat

@AshwinGupta Where did you see "unknown condition"?

Ashwin Gupta

you wrote it.

DJMcMayhem

Good night everyone

Ashwin Gupta

Im saying that seeing as how you don't know the starting conditions

@DJMcMayhem gn, again ;)

DJMcMayhem

Woohoo, mad hatter! \o/

Ashwin Gupta

07:27

1 TB drives are pretty cheap now. I got a really nice external one recently for 40 dollars on Amazon. Its like 3 inches tall, and half an inch thick. Really nice pattern finish on it to.

amazon.com/Seagate-Expansion-Portable-External-STEA1000400/dp/…

that one ^. You might be best off buying a new drive before your current one fails and you loose all your stuff. @wat

Pavel

I haven't used a hard drive in forever. My everything use

ssd

Ashwin Gupta

@Pavel hybrid or ssd?

oh ok

Pavel

Gah, phone autocorrect

Ashwin Gupta

I've got one SSD and one hard drive

I boot on the SSD

store everything in my hard drive

Pavel

I have four SSDs in raid 0.

wat

07:31

@AshwinGupta That's $40 more than I have

Ashwin Gupta

@Pavel :O

wat

@Pavel why?

Ashwin Gupta

@wat ;) yeah I got it for my B-day

Pavel

I had for SSDs lying around when I built my computer.

Ashwin Gupta

you must've had a fairly large case for that. My case hardly has enough room for the two drives.

Pavel

07:32

They're SATA, so I don't even get a speed boost.

Ashwin Gupta

@Pavel oh.

Pavel

And I had to use a hacksaw on my case to fit everything in.

Ashwin Gupta

@Pavel got you

wait did you have enough ports?

Or did you split somewhere?

wait can you even split SATA ports?

Pavel

Mobo has six SATA ports

betseg

@wat 362 ms with the computer in the class, with i3-2310M

Ashwin Gupta

07:35

@Pavel oh ok thats pretty standard. I think I have a few less.

Pavel

There's one open after optical drive, but it's buried under my video card and mess of cables.

Ashwin Gupta

@Pavel lets not even start about cable messes. I win hands down.

Pavel

Hopefully I don't need to upgrade storage any time soon.

wat

@AshwinGupta nice

Ashwin Gupta

@wat yeah, best thing I got all year. (Except for my raspberry pi)

Pavel

07:36

Did your mess require saying your case apart? Didn't think so.

Saw*

Autocorrect

Ashwin Gupta

@Pavel please don't tell me you are serious.

omg, its 11:30..

gn I gtg

nice talking to you guys

Pavel

No matter what I did my video card badly didn't fit.

Ashwin Gupta

Pavel and wat!

cya

Pavel

I removed the hard drive cage

Which was welded to the case

wat

@AshwinGupta bye

Pavel

07:38

Cya

wat

@AshwinGupta I have a raspberry pi (although I think I've mentioned it)

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08:25

-1

Q: CodeGolf : Print 2017 without using numbers

The task is to write out a program without using numbers to print out 2017. Your source cannot contain 'time', 'date', 'year' or 'now'. Stdout: 2017

code-golf

Downgoat

@AshwinGupta O__o wow... is that just the hard disk or does it include the adapter & all (can't click because pictures suck mobile data)

I feel ripped of buying a 3TB disk for $180

ais523

huh, since when does Community mark things as duplicates?

it is, clearly, but I'm not sure how a bot would know that

reading SE meta, it seems that users can cast binding close votes on their own questions if they have close-as-duplicate votes, and Community owns the votes for some reason

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10:07

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Q: What should we do with very low quality questions?

Sometimes, very low quality questions are asked on the site, that are nevertheless within the rules for what's acceptable on the site. I'm thinking of questions like: Print the largest square in the Fibonacci sequence. Shortest code wins. This is just asking for a hardcoded 144. Or for another...

discussion challenge-quality

Destructible Watermelon

10:21

codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/95164/55896

what was that guy even thinking

Martin Ender

you know the rules and so do I, but he didn't

Destructible Watermelon

I mean, does he think that print(l) is a valid answer for almost every question or something

"there's no rule against having another program run before hand therefore is valid"

not sure if serious or trolling

Martin Ender

Probably just trying to be clever

zyabin101

10:52

Hello

Was offline until somewhere at 2 pm SAR because system crashed due to the battery dying.

zyabin101

11:07

(Yes, the Saratovskaya region moved times 1 hour forward in the beginning of December.)

Going to make a font again. :D

I more than just love the GNU Unifont.

Kritixi Lithos

11:36

Does anyone know how to make Google Chrome's auto-completion work? The auto-completion now only includes stuff from my history and recent searches, but before it used to give more information. For example, when I used to type 2+2 into the address bar, it give 4 below without me searching it. But now I have to hit enter for it to give me the result

Martin Ender

I think the real problem here is that you need to ask Google what 2+2 is. ;)

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Kritixi Lithos

Flags as Not an Answer :P

zyabin101

12:09

C:\Users\user>node treeGenerator.js
a cat, a rat, a rat.
a rat, a bat, a bat.
a bat, a rat, a bat.
a bat, a bat, a cat.
a bat, a cat, a cat.
a rat, a cat, a rat.
a cat, a rat, a cat.
a bat, a rat, a cat.
a bat, a cat, a rat.
a bat, a bat, a cat.

:D my "generate from a regex tree" generator works!

Processed by the Closure Compiler:

var sentence,aThing;aThing="a [cbr]at";var ROOT_OF_TREE=sentence=aThing+", "+aThing+", "+aThing+"\\.",_Chance=require("chance"),_chance=new _Chance(1),_RandExp=require("randexp"),_generator=new _RandExp(sentence);_generator.randInt=function(a,b){return _chance.integer({min:a,max:b})};for(var _looper=0;10>_looper;_looper++)console.log(_generator.gen());

This kinda borks the tree, I know.

zyabin101

12:26

What name would you suggest for the new font?

TuxCopter

12:48

HALLO

zyabin101

@TuxCopter hello

LegionMammal978

@zyabin101 How do you parse the regex?

flawr

I need help: How can I buy a game at steam???

LegionMammal978

CMC: Invent effective cold medicine

Martin Ender

@flawr unclear what you're asking, please describe what you've tried and where you're stuck.

flawr

12:59

@MartinEnder I opened the steam program, clicked "shop" then searched for the game (quantum conundrum) now I'm on the page of this game, but I cannot find any "buy" button or similar.

zyabin101

@LegionMammal978 I don't parse the regex. RandExp does.

LegionMammal978

@zyabin101 0/10 Make your own regex parser

zyabin101

wat?!

LegionMammal978

@flawr Scroll down

Martin Ender

below the screenshot, there's "Buy Quantum Conundrum" and "Add to Cart"

LegionMammal978

13:00

^

zyabin101

I'm sure I can't make a regex parser.

Too hard.

flawr

@MartinEnder Cannot find it?

Martin Ender

are you logged in?

looks like it though

for me there's a link underneath the wishlist button

flawr

Yes, otherwise it probably wouldn't display my name. =/

Hm strange...

Martin Ender

actually the button even shows up when you're not logged in

can you see it if you open the store page in a browser? store.steampowered.com/app/200010

flawr

13:03

No, but even there I'm logged it =/

Martin Ender

that's super weird

"I think it's a regional thing. I noticed this with a couple of games on my wishlist. They were fine when we were on the dollar, but when steam switched to rands all of a sudden no price no buy button." (just some speculation I found online though)

"The issue is due to prices not being set for your region. You can notify the developer that your region does not have a price set, and hope that they add one."

flawr

Hm can I just switch my region?

I just tried to log off / log in again

Martin Ender

no clue, check the settings

flawr

Hm no, it seems they can detect where I'm currently in...

Too bad, I would have loved to play this game =(

LegionMammal978

@flawr Which browser are you using?

flawr

13:11

The thing is: I was able to download the demo, but no the game itself =(

@LegionMammal978 I tried it in firefox, but also in the steam browser.

As MartinEnder said, it is probably not available where I live =(

LegionMammal978

@flawr This might help after logging out, your language header may be set to en-<your region> or something

Clearing cookies on top of that might also help

flawr

@LegionMammal978 Thanks, I'll try that, but I guess they are determining my location via IP

LegionMammal978

@flawr lol, had the idea of buying the game for you as a gift, before realizing that's a stupid idea and you'd probably never repay me :P

flawr

@LegionMammal978 Do you think this might actually work?

LegionMammal978

@flawr Also, you could try using one of the many free proxy services

Martin Ender

13:16

@flawr if you let me know what your steam name is I'll buy for you.

LegionMammal978

@MartinEnder How much is the game for you?

Martin Ender

€2.24

LegionMammal978

$2.24 for me

flawr

@MartinEnder Oh that would be very nice, thank you for the offer! Do you think that this might actually work?

LegionMammal978

@flawr Hmm... if you can send money to other Steam users, it might

Martin Ender

13:18

I don't see why it wouldn't. if you don't want to reveal your user name here, I think you can find mine in the TNB steam group: steamcommunity.com/groups/the-19th-byte

(then add me as a friend so I'll have yours)

LegionMammal978

@MartinEnder Yeah, it's just that trust is required of the other user not to steal all of €2.24

Martin Ender

@LegionMammal978 it's Christmas.

LegionMammal978

@MartinEnder + 86400s

flawr

@MartinEnder I didn't even think of that, but I don't know whether it is necessary, anyway I sent you a friend request!

LegionMammal978

I see your point, though

> This email was generated because of a login attempt from a web or mobile device located at XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX (US).

Yup, they track your location via IP

flawr

13:21

@MartinEnder Also please let me know in what way I could return you the favour=)

Martin Ender

@flawr you don't have to return the favour.

Let me know if it worked.

flawr

@MartinEnder Yaaay it seems to work, I was able to download it!

@MartinEnder Thank you very much!

Martin Ender

you're welcome :)

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zyabin101

@LegionMammal978 WAT?! Q_Q

flawr

That is amazing=) You know I followed the development of this game I think back in 2011 or so, but I think when it finally came out I was unable to get a steam account or so.

Now I'm really looking forward to playing it=)

LegionMammal978

13:25

@zyabin101 It's not unheard of

Advertisers likely do it all the time

flawr

@MartinEnder Did you see me with the same user name I have here?

Martin Ender

yes

flawr

@MartinEnder It works:) Thanks a LOT!

zyabin101

14:08

There's my font source: github.com/schas002/Muho

It uses FontForge.

Here's a character card for o, the standard first character.

I just brought an idea to make a trading card game based on characters.

Flp.Tkc

hello

zyabin101

hallo

Flp.Tkc

just changed my name on PPCG, does it change automatically in chat?

my PPCG user is my parent user

Kritixi Lithos

I think you need to ask mods to 11 your chat profile

Doorknob

Or wait a bit, but that works too

flawr

14:28

@MartinEnder Did you ever play quantum conundrum yourself?

LegionMammal978

@flawr I've just seen several LPs on YouTube

flawr

I can highly recommend it, similar to portal but basically with other "tools":)

El'endia Starman

Martin Ender == Santa Claus confirmed. :P

Martin Ender

@flawr nope

Anonymous

I will be getting answers on Output the Sign for the rest of eternity >_<

Anonymous

14:38

@MartinEnder Is this what you had to go through with the catalogs? Constant notifications of new answers?

Martin Ender

yep.

quartata

@Mego Yeah now you know how I feel.

I get at least 3 TM answers a week

Anonymous

If everybody who answered upvoted, I could easily have the gold badge :/

Kritixi Lithos

@Mego That's how I felt with my Shortest Infinite Loop challenge. There was a period of time when I stopped checking the answers because of the massive numbers of them coming and coming

FlipTack

same with "Loading... Forever"

LegionMammal978

14:41

@quartata I gave myself a personal challenge to do that for as many esolangs as possible :P

Anonymous

To make matters worse, it's on HNQ

quartata

The thing is with the high visibility catalogs is that it never ends

I'm sure HW is even worse

Anonymous

@quartata Yep, because each new answer bumps it back up to the front page, perpetuating the cycle

quartata

At least they're protected

FlipTack

do you think I should protect the loading.. question?

quartata

14:43

No I don't think anyone should protect anything.

I'm just being selfish here since it cuts down on answers

(I did not personally protect TM fwiw)

Anonymous

Protection should only be used if the challenge is getting a lot of low-quality drive-by answers

Martin Ender

@quartata it doesn't seem so bad

flawr

@El'endiaStarman haha right, just don't tell the kids=)

quartata

@MartinEnder ?

Can't see the highlighty reply thing like on desktop

Martin Ender

oh, "I'm sure HW is even worse"

do you not use the new mobile chat UI?

quartata

14:48

No.

Martin Ender

how come?

quartata

probably should

flawr

@El'endiaStarman You know I just remembered the game because you just talked about it yesterday or so!

quartata

It doesn't work on my tablet but it probably works fine on my phone

haven't tried

I suppose HW has answers in basically all the known esolangs now huh

Martin Ender

well you'll have to start digging a bit to find unused ones

quartata

14:52

Whch is probably not exactly the motivation of the average drive by catalog poster >_>

For TM though a good chunk of the answers come from new languages it seems

Which there are a surprising amount of. I see low rep users with new esolangs posting on TM quite a bit

I wonder if that's traffic from esolangs (the site) spilling over

wizzwizz4

@quartata We've given them quite a bit of traffic, so I wouldn't be surprised if we started getting some from them.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

15:23

any more feedback on this?

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Print the primes below! Given a number n, output all the primes less than or equal to n, but that aren't in the number's factorization. Example: 10 gives the output [3, 7] (in any form you like, as long as the numbers are unambiguously separated and in some sort of sorted list). More test ca...

Martin Ender

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ didn't we just have that challenge the other week?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

not that I saw?

ah, we have an almost identical one by VTC 3 weeks ago

@MartinEnder do you think changing to "print all numbers that share no divisors with n" is different enough to not be a dupe?

PhiNotPi

One time I proposed a spin-off challenge, but it turned out that the challenge I was spinning off from was itself a spin-off, and my proposal was an exact dupe of the original.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

ouch

Martin Ender

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I'm surprised we don't have a challenge to print all the coprime numbers below n, but the closest thing we seem to have the totient function challenge.

zyabin101

15:29

FontForge hates me.

Martin Ender

right...

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@MartinEnder yeah, that was why I said "vaguely dupey" at the bottom

zyabin101

I see no self-intersection between these four points (highlighted in yellow).

Martin Ender

@zyabin101 so the roundtrip transform of transliterating File into Cyrillic and back ends up being Fail

zyabin101

Nope. This is nothing that relates to my problem.

How do I make FontForge normally know that there is no self-intersection between the yellow points.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

15:34

@MartinEnder edited it, how about now?

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Generate the coprimes Given a number n, output all the numbers less than n that share no factors with n. (aka are coprimes of n.) Example: 10 gives the output [3, 7, 9] (in any form you like, as long as the numbers are unambiguously separated and in some sort of sorted list). More test cases...

Martin Ender

I think "coprime" is only used as an adjective.

As in "these numbers are coprime to n"

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

oops

Martin Ender

And there are also numbers bigger than n that are coprime to n.

Kritixi Lithos

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ BTW, just overtook you in the hatboard :)

Martin Ender

It's also known as relatively prime or mutually prime: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprime_integers

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

15:36

@KritixiLithos oh well

@MartinEnder noted that at the bottom

@KritixiLithos which hat?

Martin Ender

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ oh, sorry, didn't read that far yet

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

it's okay

Kritixi Lithos

I got selfie stick and lounging around from my question

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

nice!

hey the top 5 are actually lined up by 1

Sherlock9

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Jelly, 8 bytes

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

15:38

stupid bloody jelly

always so short

Sherlock9

XD

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

>_> I'm working on a python solution right now

Kritixi Lithos

But I stupidly did not post it on the hour and missed Hatter

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

ouch

yeah, I pinged you about that earlier lel

Martin Ender

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ you either need to include 1 in all the test case outputs, or explicitly exclude it as a special case in the spec

(since all numbers are coprime to 1)

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

15:38

> Technically all numbers are divisible by one and thus share a factor, but according to the definition of a coprime, 1 is not counted.

input or output?

zyabin101

Fixed by moving the two points a bit higher. Oh FontForge, why do you enforce requirements that dumb... facepalm

Martin Ender

output

Kritixi Lithos

I know, but I forgot about that...

Martin Ender

the sentence you quoted only mentions factors

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

oh, oops

Sherlock9

15:40

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ From Wikipedia: The numbers 1 and −1 are the only integers coprime to every integer, and they are the only integers to be coprime with 0.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

oh cool

Sherlock9

So 7 bytes :D

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

>_<

does giving answers a choice to use 1 or not sound fair?

Martin Ender

I don't see why that's necessary. it's not a super awkward special case because it follows directly from the definition.

Dennis

@DJMcMayhem Done.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

15:44

@MartinEnder okay, just special-cased and said "don't include 1."

Dennis

@Qwerp-Derp Could you create a flag/version/detection mechanism for non-interactive operation? All those input prompt will look out of place on TIO. If at all possible, I'd also like to be a able to provide code from a file.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

if you don't see any more errors, I'll just leave it there for a bit

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Q: Natural Pi #2 - River

Goal Given an string with a train of hashtags, calculate its total length and divide by the distance from start to finish. Simulation What are we simulating? According to this paper, the ratio of the length of a river to the distance between start and end is approximately Pi! (This may have be...

code-golf math pi

Martin Ender

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ that seems like the worst of the three options but okay :P

Sherlock9

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ It's not an awkward special case and it's nicer to include 1, I think

Besides, why do you feel the need to exclude it anyway?

Martin Ender

15:46

if you do want to exclude it, it's a lot easier to do so by asking people to print the coprime numbers in 1 < x < n instead of tacking on "don't print 1" at the end.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

true

I'll just add it to the test cases and include it

DJMcMayhem

@Dennis tyvm

Sherlock9

Oh, while you're all here looking at Sandbox posts, care to look at mine? meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/11035/47581

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

Sure. Mine is done, I'll just let it sit for future readers

@Sherlock9 I like it, little concerned about people cutting corners on the drawing for golfing purposes

pop-con is probably too broad though

maybe have a minimum example?

Martin Ender

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ you can also define "coprime" as "gcd == 1" in which case you don't need to mention 1 as an exception in the definition either

Sherlock9

15:52

I would if I had written my own code

Mitch Schwartz

@HenryWHHackv2.0 your avatar is a lot cooler than everyone else's

Sherlock9

I'm just borrowing from the animation I linked at the top

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@MartinEnder oh, makes sense

@Sherlock9 yeah, but photoshop works wonders

even if it's just for the example of 10 or something small

Sherlock9

How's that?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

looks good!

Sherlock9

15:58

Oh shoot. Something I hadn't considered

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

what?

Sherlock9

The animation has the dots get smaller to fit the page. And it limits to 10000 for reasons of being distinguishable.

Should I ask for the dot size to be variable?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

hm, probably

or you can just let the animation be really big

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