The Nineteenth Byte

I've found Frostop to actually be a pretty good brand. They've got an excellent Red Birch Beer, too.

Anonymous

8:15 PM

Now you're just making up words

Anonymous

Chupathingy root beer: in stores now

Beta Decay

So are you guys talking about beer or root beer?

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

@Mego Frostop

Geobits

I haven't had a red birch beer in some years.

New Sandboxed Posts

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Can you remove the ground? In power system engineering, short circuit currents are essential when engineering a power system. There are mainly four types of currents, and one impedance value that are calculated Three-phase (3P), Line-line (LL), Line-ground (LG), Line-line-ground (LLG), in additi...

8:18 PM

@BetaDecay Root Beer. Although, Not Your Father's Root Beer (alcoholic root beer) is pretty tasty.

@Geobits I'm spoiled by the Blue Sun Soda Shop

CMC: Primality check in Straw

Off-topic: in Chrome, the onkeypress event apparently doesn't include the backspace key.

wat

I found that out when I tried using my byte-counter on Chrome at a public computer yesterday.

I've switched to onkeydown and it works like a charm.

Name your keyboard handler M, then you could have M.onkeydown

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8:27 PM

@ETHproductions That won't work for copy, paste and cut with the mouse. oninput ftw.

@TimmyD I'm using <textarea onkeydown="...">, so that wouldn't work.

@Dennis wow... an HTML event I didn't know about? O_O

@Dennis dont work on ie <9 -1

Uh...does .onchange not work? I think that's what I use for the byte counter on the Minkolang interpreter page...

I know very little about JavaScript, so it was a half-hearted joke

@TùxCräftîñg If someone is still using IE8 or earlier, too bad.

@TùxCräftîñg onpropertychange adds support for IE 8. Not sure why anyone would use IE 8 though...

8:30 PM

IE on widows vista/xp

If you're using IE8, you need to learn about this awesome thing called "the Internet".

4

Vista supports at least 9

@TimmyD i dont get it...

Poke

MONKEY DOWN

Oh, no, I used .keyup.

Poke

8:31 PM

high alert, man

Who doesn't love serious george. unowatimean

@Poke wat

@TimmyD Oh, haha. How did I not get that the first time?

Also, if someone visits your site using IE8, there should be a redirect in place that sends them to a random torrent site, y'know, just to see how well the rest of their security works.

@TùxCräftîñg Vista supports IE 9, XP reached EOL (and there are non-IE browsers).

@El'endiaStarman mon.keyup() ;3

8:33 PM

ahk

@TimmyD ah XD

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A: How long is a Welsh word?

My wife who is a native Welsh speaker would recommend that the J is added into the "Borrowed" letters section as it isn't actually part of the Welsh alphabet

wat

Adnan

@TùxCräftîñg HAHAHAHAHAHA

betseg

oh vim 8 released

4 hours ago, by DJMcMayhem

Vim 8.0 has been released today! \o/ \o/ :O

betseg

:/

@betseg yay! \o/

8:38 PM

CMC: write a program the enumerates all positive, unique fractions less than one, yielding pairs [n, d].

@TùxCräftîñg Keep calm and trust in the eleven.

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windows smartscreen will not stop me for installing vim 8

good try, krosoft

I feel sorry for Tucker. — Peter Olson Dec 3 '11 at 17:29

@ConorO'Brien Unique meaning 2/4 is considered the same as 1/2?

@TimmyD yes

  1
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~                                                by Bram Moolenaar et al.
~                                       Vim is open source and freely distributable
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~                                              Help poor children in Uganda!
~                                     type  :help iccf<Enter>       for information

ಠ_ಠ

> version 7.4.872

8:43 PM

That is one large box.

betseg

@TùxCräftîñg v

~                                              Help poor children in Uganda!
~                                     type  :help iccf<Enter>       for information

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@ConorO'Brien One that prints [1, 2], [1, 3], [2, 3], etc. forever?

@El'endiaStarman I'm going be that one person to say it, but those are too precise to be realistic IMO.

you dont want to primality checker in straw?

8:45 PM

@ETHproductions you can print it forever, give the Nth member, you can even do a different enumeration, so long as all fractions are enumerated over.

@ConorO'Brien See the mini charts in the middle for how much variation is likely to be smoothed out

OK

@trichoplax yeah, I saw those. I just don't see how in the blazes he even has that information :P

Yeah [citation needed]

@TùxCräftîñg DIY : P

8:46 PM

D:

@trichoplax I thought there was a citation in the comic.

At least, something like it.

@El'endiaStarman yeah, a nice jumble of names

idk what methods they used or who they are are where this was published. the poster was big, surely he could've posted more information :p

@El'endiaStarman Oh yes - I see it now. I missed the sideways smallprint down the right hand side...

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~                                 version 8.0
~                           by Bram Moolenaar et al.
~                 Vim is open source and freely distributable
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~                           Sponsor Vim development!
~                type  :help sponsor<Enter>    for information
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~                type  :q<Enter>               to exit
~                type  :help<Enter>  or  <F1>  for on-line help
~                type  :help version7<Enter>   for version info

@ConorO'Brien Also those are all recent sources. A suspicious absence of sources from the time.

8:49 PM

@TùxCräftîñg The reply doesn't work with fixed font ^^

@trichoplax Yeah, I just noticed that too. There's also the "citation" between 16000 BC and 15500 BC.

i installed vim 8.0, but it dont work

i chosen to not delete vimfiles, idk if it borked it

@trichoplax yeah. I did some research on this before, I think one of the methods for getting temp. data are analyzing groups of warm- and cold-loving bacteria in the bottom of the ocean

@El'endiaStarman Oh yeah - same sources in both places

@ConorO'Brien PowerShell, not golfed very well, 78 bytes -- $a=@();for($j=1;1;$j++){1..$j|%{if(("$_/$j"|iex)-notin$a){$a+=$_/$j;"$_/$j"}}}

Subject to limitations for IEEE double-point precision

And will only work up until 49999/50000

8:51 PM

@ConorO'Brien That does seem a good way to smooth out local peaks and troughs

@trichoplax I personally think that it's a really dumb way of testing it, but eh

@TimmyD darn IEEE! shakes fist

PS C:\Tools\Scripts\golfing> $a=@();for($j=1;1;$j++){1..$j|%{if(("$_/$j"|iex)-notin$a){$a+=$_/$j;"$_/$j"}}}
1/1
1/2
1/3
2/3
1/4
3/4
1/5
2/5
3/5
4/5
1/6
5/6
1/7
2/7
3/7
4/7
5/7
6/7
1/8
3/8
5/8
7/8
^c

@ConorO'Brien I'm fine with inaccurate measurement techniques as long as they are open about the level of inaccuracy...

@TimmyD why did someone flag this

wtf

@TimmyD Infinitely long code blocks are frowned upon ;)

8:53 PM

seriously people, that is not flagworthy -.-

@ConorO'Brien Sorry, I think I accidentally re-flagged it :P

I've never used the flag interface before

@ETHproductions xD that's okay. And SE's fault

Wow, that's three accidental flags today.

@ConorO'Brien No, I clicked the little blue circle with a 1 and clicked valid without paying much attention to the text

I wanted to give example output. Sorry for length of output. I actually snipped a bunch, because it executed faster than I could ctrl-c, it was somewhere in the mid-20s for denominator.

8:54 PM

@ETHproductions oh

I thought it meant "this post is valid" :P

CMC#2: write the inverse of this

@TimmyD In case it wasn't obvious, I was joking about the "infinitely" long output. I don't see any problem with code blocks in chat except when they are used repeatedly in a short space of time

@ConorO'Brien for($I=1;1;$I++){$i}

;-)

@ETHproductions Yeah I think that could do with being "valid complaint" or "valid flag" since everyone has to see it for the first time sometime

8:57 PM

@ConorO'Brien g=(a,b)=>b?g(b,a%b):a;f=x=>{for(i=1;x&&++i;)for(j=0;x&&j<i&&++j;)g(i,j)-1||x--;a‌lert(j+"/"+i)}

@ConorO'Brien Why, though? The bottom of the ocean is insensitive to temperature fluctuations at the surface, and it should still go through temperature changes in proportion to surface temperature changes. Correlation with other methods of determining temperature should enable us to use them to determine the temperature in ages past.

flawr

Windows XP Startup Sound slowed down to 24 hours

@flawr Big deal. I could install XP on a 286 and get the same thing. :D

@El'endiaStarman well, yes, it's a nice general metric. but is by no means precise

@TimmyD too good for me :P

> When mum says "one more video" I come here

8:59 PM

@ETHproductions so I pass n as g(n)?

@ConorO'Brien The data doesn't seem unduly precise to me, just from Randall's drawing of it.

@ConorO'Brien f(n)

g is GCD

Even if it was off by a whole degree, you still have the huge contrast between gradual changes taking place over hundreds or thousands of years and what happened in the last century.

not the browser console :P

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A: Consolidate an Array

Straw, 30 bytes <:([^0 ])()/,0()/ +,+( +) /0⌠> Use the CP437 encoding Explanation <:([^0 ])()/,0()/ +,+( +) /0⌠> < Take input : Duplicate ([^0 ])()/ Remove every character that is not a 0 or a space , ...

9:05 PM

@El'endiaStarman oh, I was talking about something related but different :P

@ConorO'Brien g=(a,b)=>b?g(b,a%b):a;f=(j,i)=>{for(x=i>1|0;i;j=--i)for(;--j;)g(i,j)>1||x++;alert‌(x)}

Called as f(n,d)

wow, nice

@El'endiaStarman SQL-request: people who post answer oneboxes the most

@ConorO'Brien New Main Posts, New Sandboxed Posts, New Meta Posts

Surely only New Sandboxed Posts :P

i think new main posts is more active

9:11 PM

But only with questions...

^

In an ideal world New Sandboxed Posts would be more active than New Main Posts, since every challenge would be sandboxed first, and not all would make it to main, but in the real world I think you're right, New Main Posts posts far more.

@TùxCräftîñg Those are bots though, not people.

Geobits

If you're going to compare, make sure you date range it. I belive they were not born on the same day, but about a year apart.

...

Anonymous

9:15 PM

@El'endiaStarman You bigot :P

Also there are more than one of each

of each what?

@ETHproductions Can I see ETHbot's source? I might play with it a little bit just for fun

Try to see if I can coax it into assembling more syntactically correct sentences

@Mego Bots are people too

Reading through closed books

btw i will GH zalgo

Anonymous

@quartata Exactly

Anonymous

9:23 PM

They may be severely lacking in intelligence, but so are some of the people I've met

flawr

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People are bots too

Category:User-created public domain files from April 2008

This category combines all user-created public domain files from April 2008 (2008-04) to enable us to work through the backlog more systematically. It is a member of Category:User-created public domain files....

^ that's a thing

github.com/tuxcrafting/zalgo-chatbot

> import chatexchange6

9:27 PM

yes

github.com/ByteCommander/ChatExchange6

That's cheating, try writing your own SE Chat interface :p

...

(trust me, it's (NP-)hard)

@ConorO'Brien There are two bots called "New Main Posts" and two called "New Meta Posts", but only one called "New Sandboxed Posts". You can see by doing a chat search and then using the "user" box to search for the name

the word "bot" would've sufficed :P

9:29 PM

I wondered myself so I looked... :)

Turns out the younger of each bot has never posted

ah, I see

Should have been a few seconds work but my internet connection died

an interesting extension would be a thing that highlights user's most common phrases when they say them

Anonymous

Mine would be "python" and "jameson" :P

For some users that might burn out pixels from my monitor. I'd have ;_; permanently etched into various parts of the screen

9:33 PM

3 upvotes for my 'boring' welsh counter answer in Straw but no love for the array consolidation ;_;

Why don't SEchat interfaces support other OpenIDE?

Such as Google

@TùxCräftîñg Your timing couldn't have been better :P

^ XD

?

@TùxCräftîñg s/no/some/ :-D

9:35 PM

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A: Consolidate an Array

Straw, 30 bytes <:([^0 ])()/,0()/ +,+( +) /0⌠> Use the CP437 encoding Explanation <:([^0 ])()/,0()/ +,+( +) /0⌠> < Take input : Duplicate ([^0 ])()/ Remove every character that is not a 0 or a space , ...

@TùxCräftîñg I mentioned there being lots of ;_;s in chat, and the very next message contained one :)

ahk

@DJMcMayhem :O how did you copy paste this

by copypasting the entire terminal screen...

wat

@TùxCräftîñg ono ur turning into zyabin who has turned into Sp :o

9:36 PM

^^

@TùxCräftîñg I'm talking about the "ah k"s

ik

@Downgoat Ah k :)

ಠ_ಠ

xD

9:37 PM

@Downgoat Ah kalm down :P

ಠ_ಠ

@TùxCräftîñg wow penguins have either lots of mouths or chins

@trichoplax turtles have hooves confirmed?

@Downgoat ah krazy goat

c and k have a keyboard distance of 4, so even hooves would not permit this error

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@ConorO'Brien ;_; y u sai dis

^^

9:39 PM

@TùxCräftîñg I count 5?

Real answer is sqrt(6)

real answer is real answer

You can make it 4 if you measure corner to corner

(at an angle)

Speaking of real things... I need to implement complex numbers in cheddar

Also, I've seen hooves bigger than that

9:40 PM

@Downgoat how are you implementing stuff if you're still porting?

@Downgoat @TùxCräftîñg Nope. Even better :D

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A: Output Vim display to Text

Yes, there is a way to do this! You can use the screenchar() function. From :help screenchar() screenchar(row, col) *screenchar()* The result is a Number, which is the character at position [row, col] on the screen. This works for every possible sc...

@ConorO'Brien porting will take ages

@TùxCräftîñg you forgot the final step onto the k

@Downgoat Also are we gonna port to v8

9:41 PM

</shameless self promotion>

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A: Oxford Comma Conventions

There are situations where use of the Oxford comma will make or break a sentence. Choose a style and be consistent. When you run into a situation in which your choice suggests a misinterpretation of the sentence, rewrite it in another manner to avoid the confusion. Consider these two pairs whe...

@Downgoat why not finish making cheddar then port it?

@ConorO'Brien huh you count also the K?

yes

@ASCII-only wat

v8 = JS???

9:42 PM

Yeah but isn't Cheddar pretty similar

@ConorO'Brien cheddar will never be "finished"

Plus we get really nice GC + really fast interpreter for free this way

garbage collector?

@TùxCräftîñg u gotta use distance formula

@Downgoat until you get a public working version? :P

9:42 PM

@ASCII-only ohhh I see what you mean

i would never do that

manual allocation/deallocation is teh best

@ASCII-only Node runs on V8

No?

Pretty sure it does

I wish there was a fast version of JS :P it would make this so much easier

@quartata yes

@ConorO'Brien "fast version of JS" is oxymoron :P

9:44 PM

@Downgoat great, fantastic. I didn't know that. -.-

@quartata Your mom runs on V8.

Well JS by its nature probably won't ever be very fast

MyClass c(); is bad. my_class_t *c = my_class_new(); /* do stuff */ my_class_destroy(c); id better

I would too. It's ~~like~~ juice.

@TùxCräftîñg ...

9:44 PM

@quartata Yes

@mbomb007 I actually like V8

@TùxCräftîñg oh my sweet goodness that looks like masochism

@TùxCräftîñg i don't think you understand whaf better means ._. :P

no, it's C :P

@quartata same

9:45 PM

C is superior to C++

@TùxCräftîñg to*

@TùxCräftîñg ...

-1++ = 0

C++ > C == true

so C = a enormous number, but C++ = 0

9:46 PM

@Downgoat I should be able to port cheddar grammar to cheddarfile parser right

@ASCII-only wait wat

@TùxCräftîñg You mean anterior? :P

No idea what you mean

@trichoplax yes but it's better

btw there needs to be a flatten modifier

9:47 PM

C > C++

@TùxCräftîñg No. lol

@Downgoat flatten?

@mbomb007 yes. lol

1972 rep \o/

@ASCII-only You know how the first letter is seperate from there rest of letters

@TùxCräftîñg Send this one back for neural restructuring.

9:47 PM

@Downgoat also do we even need current merge behavior? we can just modify merge so that it joins the token before to the current token

only 30 rep for 2K

@ASCII-only ok

I hit 8500

@Downgoat Also do you mind if I keep working on the C++ port at school today?

@mbomb007 will not give lots of broken emoji people until 10K :P but congrats!

9:48 PM

and I hit 13k

@Downgoat I'm working for it (not that hard, though). I want to hit 10k before the rep requirements change.

@Downgoat ok so how recent is cheddar1 c9

@ASCII-only huh wat

cheddar one? TIL cheddar is from microsoft

You're making me hungry.

9:50 PM

chedfar v1 was started mid June

@mbomb007 solution: get ches :D :P

wat why my message is on the starboard o_o

@Downgoat is the cheddar1 c9 the most recent copy

@TùxCräftîñg Because people/animals starred it

@ASCII-only yes

plz i need 3 upvotes

@Downgoat Edible Chess! Best idea ever!

9:52 PM

the original cheddar C9 broke so I had to create new one

@TùxCräftîñg This sounds like a recipe for downvotes :P

;_______;

@TùxCräftîñg -1 for upvoet brgging

> ( ͡°I AM ͜ʖ COOL PENGUIN ͡°)

@TùxCräftîñg For?

9:52 PM

just noticed this

@mbomb007 ಠ_ಠ ches =/= chess

this is horrid

@quartata XD

@zyabin101 to hit 2K

ches = chees

9:53 PM

@Downgoat ches =/= cheese

@quartata xD

@Downgoat That poor poor lenny

@mbomb007 ಠ_ಠ

ches = cheess

His face got stretched like bubble gum

9:53 PM

this is 2016 I should not be discriminated based on my spelling which is a disability I'm born with because hooves

@quartata that looks more like... puts on sunglasses cinnamon gum.

Actually 2016 is why you should be discriminated based on your spelling

Autocorrect folks

@mbomb007 wat

@mbomb007 I really wish I didn't need to see her again >_<

9:54 PM

@TùxCräftîñg It's from Doctor Who. google.com/…

@quartata my spelling is bot many matter with autocorrect

Oh wait, Doctor Who. I totally remember now

good 'ol cassie

>_>

@quartata honestly i have no idea why i written this xD

9:55 PM

It's not like I don't like Doctor Who and am the only person on the planet who doesn't watch it or anything

In all seriousness I do remember that... vaguely

One of the many predicted futures of the human species. I'm not sure how they manage to all fit into the same canon...

@Downgoat We're all born with bad spelling. That doesn't mean you can't improve.

@trichoplax different planets, of course :P

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A: Consolidate an Array

Straw, 30 bytes <:([^0 ])()/,0()/ +,+( +) /0⌠> Use the CP437 encoding Explanation <:([^0 ])()/,0()/ +,+( +) /0⌠> < Take input : Duplicate ([^0 ])()/ Remove every character that is not a 0 or a space , ...

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