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6:00 PM
@Lynn ugh hoisting
Great in theory causes way too many problems in practice
 
So it does.
I'm sure my browser never used to preload scripts like that
 
@El'endiaStarman I wanna finish this CG update first but now I might be too hungry to do so
 
CMC: name the tastiest food you've ever had.
 
CMC?
 
Oof, tough
 
6:01 PM
@ArtOfCode Chat mini-challenge.
 
ah
you even golfed that?
It's infectious
 
Hey, acronyms are not only for golfers!
 
@ArtOfCode Yeah, you should probably wear a hazmat suit before you enter this room
 
@Downgoat halp strings cannot turn
 
@LeakyNun That's because it's neither an atom nor a quick.
 
6:04 PM
@Dennis just document it somwhere
 
@LeakyNun it is. else, how would I know it? :p
it might be in the jelly tips tho
 
@Downgoat forget it
 
My life was changed when I realized I could get you chumps to do whatever I want, just by typing "CMC".
 
@Downgoat help strings can concatenate but arrays cannot
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan CMC: Make a CMC that makes CMC's
 
6:07 PM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ CMC: Make CMC's.
2
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ one step ahead of ya
Jul 30 at 13:38, by Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man
CMC: Write a program that generates a random CMC.
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan it's invalid since it existed before the challenge >_>
 
Dammit. Stupid loopholes...
 
6:08 PM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ No, your CMC is a dupe.
Wait, no, I get it now.
 
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

helloworld922Is it truthy or falsy? There are so many different ways to express whether something is true or not! The goal of this challenge is to produce a standardized output of true or false for various truthy and falsy values. For the purposes of this challenge, the following inputs are considered truth...

 
@LeakyNun strings dont turn matrixes do
make sure you have matrix of strings
 
@quartata @EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ to illustrate how bad the comp matchmaking placement system is, I went soldier and only used a righteous bison. I topscored with four dominations.
 
@LeakyNun yes, was thinking of adding that this morning brb
 
@Downgoat does your vfuse produce a leading newline?
 
6:10 PM
5
A: Golf you a quine for great good!

TùxCräftîñgINTERCALL, 126 bytes INTERCALL IS A ANTIGOLFING LANGUAGE SO THIS HEADER IS HERE TO PREVENT GOLFING IN INTERCALL THE PROGRAM STARTS HERE: QUINE END With a newline at the end. Even with a "QUINE" command, the code is insanely long xD

 
@Downgoat define "this morning"
 
this is a cheating quine AFAIK ಠ_ಠ
 
hey, I'm working on the userscript, and it appears that some parts are using cookies for storage, while other parts are document.localstorage
is there a reason, or is simply because there are different contributors?
 
@NathanMerrill probably 2
 
How did that answer get 5 upvotes
 
6:12 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
probably because INTERCALL is good
 
@LeakyNun :D :D :D \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ :D :D :D
 
@Downgoat please
2
two bugs
and fix your other answers
@Downgoat halp 1@"26+25@"1 made the program quit
instead of throwing runtime error
 
@LeakyNun wait wat
@LeakyNun wat is borked?
 
6:20 PM
@Downgoat 1. array concat as mentioned before
2. vfuse produces extra leading newline
 
I just made a YouTube audio API because it always bothered me that there was no direct way to do this. At https://labs.turbo.run/stream?v=oT3mCybbhf0, where the last part is the YT video ID, you'll get an instant, no-questions-asked MP3 stream of that video.
6
 
3. 25@"1 quits without throwing runtime error
 
@LeakyNun oh no, brb will fix
@LeakyNun oh, those are not allowed? :(
 
@LeakyNun It is documented in the tutorial. Section 3.1.1. Number literals.
 
@Downgoat it is neither allowed nor expected
all vfuse that I know of does not produce extra newlines
both trailing and leading
@Dennis quickref please
 
6:22 PM
who is somebody1234 (on github)?
 
@NathanMerrill Mars Ultor currently, I believe.
His chat name was "somebody" at first.
 
Cont: The API is unlimited, encrypted and doesn't track. It also busts almost all content restrictions. Documentation: MP3 stream on success, HTTP 500 (try again) for any errors.
 
@El'endiaStarman yep, the icons match
thanks
 
@LeakyNun some quesitons allow leading newlines. will fix weird bug with leading newline :|
 
@Downgoat not my 2 questions
 
6:25 PM
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ I believe you wrote this code $('link[href="//cdn.sstatic.net/codegolf/img/favicon.ico?v=cf"]').attr('href', main.FAVICON) for the userscript
 
@LeakyNun yeah ,fixed it on quesitons that don't allow
 
I can't find a match anywhere. can you explain which pages it supposed to match?
 
@NathanMerrill that's the wrong sstatic URL
They've updated them since then, it should be //cdn.sstatic.net/Sites/codegolf/img/favicon.ico
 
hmmm, then it looks like this userscript code will never run
 
Update it? :P
 
6:30 PM
2
A: Alphabet triangle

Leaky NunCheddar, 102 96 79 71 bytes 17 bytes thanks to Downgoat, and inspiration for 8 more. "A"+(2@"27+@"(25|>1)).bytes.map(i->(65@"(65+i)+(65@"(64+i)).rev)).vfuse The fact that strings can concatenate but not arrays means that I would have to convert the two ranges to strings, concatenate, and then...

@Downgoat \o/ thanks
 
@LeakyNun \o/ np!
 
2
A: Golf you a quine for great good!

Rohan JhunjhunwalaS.I.L.O.S 6425 See docuentation here https://github.com/rjhunjhunwala/S.I.L.O.S set a 47 a + 1 set a 47 a + 1 set a 109 a + 1 set a 121 a + 1 set a 32 a + 1 set a 97 a + 1 set a 112 a + 1 set a 111 a + 1 set a 108 a + 1 set a 111 a + 1 set a 103 a + 1 set a 105 a + 1 set a 101 a + 1 set a 115...

what the...
 
@LeakyNun I think this answer shows that @" op is best op
 
@Downgoat as well as two three bugs
 
yes :P
 
6:32 PM
I write buggy but good ops
 
^
 
@RohanJhunjhunwala how do you pronounce your last name?
 
@Downgoat where is concat of string in the source?
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ._.
 
6:33 PM
ikr'
 
even with the nerf
gg volvo
 
Accurate enough from what I know about Hindi phonology
 
@LeakyNun You just made this video?
 
@zyabin101 no
 
@mınxomaτ thanks for that btw
liked the music
 
6:34 PM
Aww... :3
 
> Thanks to @LeakyNun for golfing off 3 bytes!
o___o oh my
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ np
 
That was a quote from Dennis's jelly answer .___.
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I know
 
6:38 PM
brbrrbrbrbrbrbbbbbrbrb
 
@TùxCräftîñg rhubarb
 
@Downgoat after bugfix the answer would be 53 bytes please
@Downgoat halp |> @" + inconsistent precedence
namely, @" greater than + greater than |>
@Downgoat not sure if you need to remove the leading newline in this
 
@betseg I’m trying a really silly approach.
 
@Lynn me too.
 
6:51 PM
It didn’t work. ;_;
Looks like there’s no closed form cubic in terms of x and y, at least.
I was so prepared to interpolate the heck out of this combinatorics problem
 
try quartic :p
 
bah, insertRule only allows for 1 rule at a time
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ lel
 
@ArtOfCode do you know of another way to add scripts besides document.stylesheets?
that doesn't depend on the head or body?
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ translation: we have MANY pidgeys (and free time)
 
@LeakyNun that answer uses an old version of cheddar, but it works as i added the .slice(1)
@LeakyNun working on bugfix, just doing testing and then will push
 
@Downgoat No, I mean I don't know if the question disallows it
 
I've asked OP. I'll leave it as-so for now and if he allows leading newline I'll remove
@LeakyNun meaning?
oh you mean like inconsistent between unary and binary versions of |>?
 
@Downgoat meaning, 65@"66+67@"68 produces "AC"
while 65|>66+67|>68 gets interpreted as 65|>133|>68
 
oh
ok, once i will add that fix in update with vfuse fix. and then make a release
 
7:04 PM
please don't blame dragon, is not responsible for precedence ._.
 
o_o there is no precedence defined for |>
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ :/
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ downstars
 
@Downgoat lol
 
7:09 PM
@LeakyNun ok fixed. ill make a release so it gets published to npm
 
@Downgoat halp how update
@TùxCräftîñg hi
 
@LeakyNun i gots to publish to npm brb
 
@Downgoat halp no quit command from repl
 
7:11 PM
@Lynn u still tryin?
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ not a command
I'm not saying I can't quit from repl
 
@TùxCräftîñg did u see dis codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/87560/…
 
@LeakyNun there is no way, because downgoat is a purist I don't know why.
 
@betseg obviously
 
@LeakyNun exit
 
7:12 PM
@TùxCräftîñg have you seen this?
 
@LeakyNun nope
 
@Downgoat Runtime Error: Attempted to access undefined variable `exit`
@TùxCräftîñg then do it
 
@LeakyNun in what lang ;_;
 
@TùxCräftîñg whatever
 
@LeakyNun fixed in latest version
let travis build run and deploy first though
 
7:16 PM
@Downgoat published?
 
off-topic, but can you try going to brilliantclassics.com and see if it redirects you to a wedding dress advert? it did the first time for me but now it's working properly
 
@gcampbell nope, working fine for me
 
@gcampbell WFM (work for me)
 
maybe first type you did typo?
@LeakyNun latest version is now on npm. you can update with npm install -g cheddar-lang
wait no shit i forgot to commit
dammit
 
7:22 PM
@Downgoat just now it also happened to my brother on a different computer
 
@NathanMerrill scripts, or styles? Adding styles through document.styleSheets doesn't depend on the head or body elements.
 
styles
it just means I have to add them one by one
there's quite a few times the userscript is adding multiple rules at the same time
 
Nah, write a wrapper that you can feed an object of style keys and values into, and it applies them all
 
unless I want to write a css parser to split between rules (I don't), I need to split the rules myself
 
@Downgoat halp the two range functions changed, now it is impossible to generate empty range
 
7:24 PM
@LeakyNun wait wat?
 
I am a little lost, how does the codegolf site work? you just post your code as an answer? is there a standard formatting guide (I notice most posts mention code and bytes)
 
@user51819 just follow this format:
# language, 11 bytes

    code

extra details (online interpreter link, explanation, ...)
 
is there a standard way people count their bytes
 
@user51819 by counting the number of bytes
 
@user51819 Yes, post your code, and specify what language you used, and how many bytes your program is (using something like this). We don't use characters because people have cheated using long unicode chars
 
7:26 PM
@user51819 utf-8 encoded or special codepage (i use mothereff.in/byte-counter for utf-8 bytecount)
 
@user51819 some languages have their own code-pages
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ halp your range function is borked
 
how are different bytelengths handled across languages if there is only one (accepted) answer per quuetion
 
@user51819 what do you mean by handle
 
@user51819 questions can be answered in any languages, and the least bytecount win
 
7:27 PM
@user51819 that is a good quesiton we are still trying to figure out
 
we compete for the lowest bytecount
 
as in won't some languages naturally be more verbose than others (e.g. java vs python)
 
usually questions don't accept answers for this case
 
@NathanMerrill ...why? What are you trying to do? And is there code somewhere that I can look at?
 
@user51819 so we have competition within a language also and getting the accepted flag doesnt mean everything
 
it becomes unfair because people have designed languages for golf
 
people upvotes heavily golfed java codes also @user51819
 
@Downgoat it's not unfair
 
@Downgoat ^
 
i think
 
7:28 PM
what languages do you guys like to use?
 
C
 
taking the entire script, extracting all of the times styles are being added, and converting them
 
@user51819 java, python, retina, jelly, pyth, j, cheddar \o/ (cc @Downgoat)
 
@user51819 i use python, and sometimes jelly
 
@TùxCräftîñg how is java answer supposed to beat Jelly pls tell me the byte counts of answers to these languages are fair
I mean like unfair in terms of achieving the checkmark
 
7:29 PM
@Downgoat that only depends on how you define "beat"
 
is pyth some sort of golfed python language?
 
@LeakyNun \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ :D :D :D :D
3
 
@user51819 basically
 
some java answers get much more upvotes than golflangs
 
@user51819 yes
 
7:29 PM
@user51819 yes
 
@LeakyNun oh i sohuld do my query on this
 
@Downgoat no i just said it out of midair
 
any other rules or considerations? for instance if i post code and it turns out to suck immensely, is it considered poor sport to delete it?
 
while java dont have any chance to win a code-golf challenge, java answers are generally more upvoted than jelly answers
 
@Downgoat please just test on this code before you push the next commit
((1|>27)+(25|>1)).map(i->65@"(64+i)+(64+i)@"65).vfuse
 
7:30 PM
@LeakyNun no im just curious
 
@NathanMerrill Gimme a minute, I've got a library sitting around somewhere
 
@user51819 answers without any golfing attempts (e.g. many whitespaces, multiple-letter variable names, ...) are invalid
 
can you give me an example of an easy question and I'll try to "golf" it?
 
21
Q: Alphabet triangle

Leaky NunYou are to print this exact text: A ABA ABCBA ABCDCBA ABCDEDCBA ABCDEFEDCBA ABCDEFGFEDCBA ABCDEFGHGFEDCBA ABCDEFGHIHGFEDCBA ABCDEFGHIJIHGFEDCBA ABCDEFGHIJKJIHGFEDCBA ABCDEFGHIJKLKJIHGFEDCBA ABCDEFGHIJKLMLKJIHGFEDCBA ABCDEFGHIJKLMNMLKJIHGFEDCBA ABCDEFGHIJKLMNONMLKJIHGFEDCBA ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPONMLKJ...

 
@Downgoat what's wrong -.-
 
7:32 PM
Note that the "many whitespace makes answer invalid" rule does not apply to Whitespace
 
Java answers get average of around 2 votes compared to Jelly answers which is 6
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ it's impossible to create empty range now
 
palindromes up the tailpipe
 
@Downgoat what about python?
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ its borked
 
7:33 PM
it was fine before >_> I did tests andcrap
 
@LeakyNun 3 votes
 
@Downgoat alright, I take back my previous statement.
 
(they used to get 5 votes, 3 years ago)
 
@Downgoat where you get these numbers
 
@betseg SEDE query
 
7:33 PM
tell me specifically what's wrong
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ it is doing [a, b] not [a, b) like a sane range would
 
@Downgoat ffs I thought we decided that [a, b] was better
and it is better
 
cheddar> ((1|>27)+(25|>1)).map(i->65@"(64+i)+(64+i)@"65).vfuse
"A@A@
ABA@
ABCBA@
ABCDCBA@
ABCDEDCBA@
ABCDEFEDCBA@
ABCDEFGFEDCBA@
ABCDEFGHGFEDCBA@
ABCDEFGHIHGFEDCBA@
ABCDEFGHIJIHGFEDCBA@
ABCDEFGHIJKJIHGFEDCBA@
ABCDEFGHIJKLKJIHGFEDCBA@
ABCDEFGHIJKLMLKJIHGFEDCBA@
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNMLKJIHGFEDCBA@
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNONMLKJIHGFEDCBA@
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA@
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA@
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA@
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA@
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA@
@LeakyNun
 
@Downgoat alright, brb fixing my code
 
oh wait nvm that's my fault
 
7:35 PM
@Downgoat is |> and @" meant to be inclusive or half-inclusive?
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ sorry, I mean it's doing [a, b) and not [a, b]
 
you keep changing between the two behaviours
 
@Downgoat double ffs
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ is there actually a Mathematica buitlin for that challenge? I haven't found one yet
 
@miles it was a joke
 
7:36 PM
@miles I don't have Mathematica yet. I think it might be hidden as an attribute for another builtin
 
@NathanMerrill csslib - should work with userscripts, just testing it with document-start
 
@Downgoat which one is the desired behaviour?
 
if / is something else, and % is division, what should integer division be?
 
@LeakyNun okay well I got it almost working:
cheddar> ((1|>27)+(25|>1)).map(i->65@"(64+i)+(65+i)@"65).vfuse
"ABA
ABCBA
ABCDCBA
ABCDEDCBA
ABCDEFEDCBA
ABCDEFGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLMLKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNMLKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNONMLKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ÷
 
7:37 PM
@betseg ascii only, preferably
 
@Downgoat just tell me which one is the desired behaviour
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ \
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ :?
 
@betseg that's also something else
 
@LeakyNun [a,b]
 
7:38 PM
when i try to type something in a normal editor:
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ in J, / is something else and % is division (and J doesn't have integer division iirc)
 
ia p 1 = p
a 1 q = q
a p q = (a (p - 1) q) - (a p (q - 1)):w
if n = a n n:wq
 
@LeakyNun correct.
@Adnan not bad
 
@Downgoat brb fixing my code
 
:3
 
7:39 PM
ideally in J, you should compose floor on division to activate the special combination for integer operations. ie integer division is <.@%
 
@ArtOfCode that won't always work, because it adds the element to document.head
 
@NathanMerrill yeah, that's what I'm testing
 
Hey, @LeakyNun, isn't it 3:40 am where you are? It's 2:40 am where I am
 
write fast J code using special combinations
 
@Downgoat (1|>26+25|>1).map(i->65@"(65+i)+(64+i)@"65).vfuse
@Sherlock9 correct
 
7:41 PM
@LeakyNun same output
 
this alphabet thing is actually pretty hard
 
Ah. I'm wondering why you're awake and at the same time wondering why I'm awake
 
@miles do you have a program for the rectangles question?
 
@user51819 which language are you using?
@Downgoat define same
 
python
 
7:41 PM
cheddar> (1|>26+25|>1).map(i->65@"(65+i)+(64+i)@"65).vfuse
"ABA
ABCBA
ABCDCBA
ABCDEDCBA
ABCDEFEDCBA
ABCDEFGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLMLKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNMLKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNONMLKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA
@LeakyNun ^
 
@Downgoat maybe take it to the cheddar room
 
@user51819 in python it's probably simple
 
trying to paramterize the palindrome by its center letter and write a recursive function for appending things either leftward or rightward
 
@user51819 there are quite a handful of python answers there, you can use it for reference
 
@betseg yes that's how the test cases were made
 
7:42 PM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ well its abuot golfing in cheddar not cheddar development so its on topic here too
 
@Downgoat it's also about cheddar dev >_>
"is this correct functionality", right?
 
ah
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ s/'s/ was/
 
@ArtOfCode some discussions above could be moved to chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/37686/cheddar
 
7:42 PM
@miles so it's not impossible. Good.
 
Looks on-topic here to me
 
Re: the rectangles problem, projecteuler.net/problem=147
 
@miles which language did you write it in, out of idle curiosity?
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Mathematica un-golfed
 
7:43 PM
oh, cool.
 
@NathanMerrill It works at document-start
 
@MarcusS could you add that as a related comment to the challenge, that image is probably easier to understand, seems I wasted time creating a gif animation
 
Added
 
my new hobby: walking around looking for pokemon go players, pulling out my phone and pretending to catch them
 
@TùxCräftîñg ? That petition isn't about an event in the US
 
ah
TL;DR
and i have seen US
 
@quartata I thought it was a joke about "Please help US."
 
@LeakyNun Oh.
I mean, it isn't really something to joke about IMO
 
7:56 PM
Just now got to answer your triangle question. Hope you find my idea interesting codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/87584/47581
 
@Sherlock9 nice
 
Does anyone know where I can buy human-sized Ultra Balls?
Regular Pokeballs aren't cutting it for catching some of these players with big phones
 
Right, I'm going to bed. Goodnight all
 
-__-
@Sherlock9 good night
 
@Sherlock9 night
 
7:59 PM
@Sherlock9 night1
 
@Sherlock9 g'night
 

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