The Nineteenth Byte

Sherlock9

09:04

@LeakyNun I didn't know Cantonese had consonant clusters

Leaky Nun

@Sherlock9 eh, not really

but the best approximation of that sound is "bork"

the "r" helps to maintain the 'o" vowel

but in real Cantonese there is no "r"

You can also approximate that sound by "bock" but the "o" would be too short

@LuisMendo hola

Luis Mendo

The golfing-language downvoter strikes again

18

Q: How Many Rectangles in the Grid?

Well, we don't really have a challenge like this yet, so here we go. Consider this 3 x 3 grid of rectangles: How many rectangles are there? Well, counting visually, we can see that there are actually 36 rectangles, including the entire plane itself, which are all shown in the animated GIF bel...

@LeakyNun ¡Hola! :-)

Leaky Nun

@LuisMendo Ven aca y hablamonos

betseg

@LeakyNun so like boğk in turkish

Luis Mendo

@LeakyNun I can't now, sorry

Leaky Nun

09:07

@betseg yes

R. Kap

@LuisMendo Dang...

Leaky Nun

@LuisMendo Mi nuevo amor xd

Sherlock9

@LeakyNun Fair enough, but remember that, as Cantonese is a pretty good language to swear in, there's not a lot of one-syllable words that aren't Cantonese swear words :P

I could be completely wrong though

Leaky Nun

@Sherlock9 oh, that one isn't a swear word but is quite familiar

@Sherlock9 of course

we only have five monosyllabic swear words

Luis Mendo

@LeakyNun Hahah. ¿En serio?

Leaky Nun

09:08

@LuisMendo si, me encanta esta cancion

Luis Mendo

@LeakyNun I'm not much into Julio Iglesias. This is one of my favourites

Sherlock9

@LeakyNun Well, "bork" is still a fun non-word in English, at any rate. It nicely evokes the thing has failed scenario without meaning much on its own

Leaky Nun

@LuisMendo me encanta esa tambien

@Sherlock9 sure

Sherlock9

Got any other challenges for me to try today?

Luis Mendo

@LeakyNun Also, songs are a good way to practice a language, A lot of my English and Italian come from that

Leaky Nun

09:11

4

Q: Hofstadter H-sequence

Definition a(0) = 0 a(n) = n-a(a(a(n-1))) for integer n > 0 Task Given non-negative integer n, output a(n). Testcases n a(n) 0 0 1 1 2 1 3 2 4 3 5 4 6 4 7 5 8 5 9 6 10 7 11 7 12 8 13 9 14 10 15 10 16 11 17 12 18 13 19 ...

code-golf sequence number-theory recursion

@LuisMendo eso es la verdad

@LuisMendo que mas?

Sherlock9

Sure. Have you taken a look at my VIC cipher Sandbox post yet?

Leaky Nun

@Sherlock9 eh, it's too complicated

Sherlock9

Somewhat :D I think someone could get under 500 bytes though. I have yet to write up a test golf

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Sherlock9 where (too lazy to look up)

Sherlock9

3

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Write a VIC cipher encoder code-golfcryptography The VIC cipher is one of the most complicated pencil and paper ciphers ever devised. Used in the 1950s by Soviet spy Reino Häyhänen, codenamed "VICTOR", its main principle is security through obfuscation; a lot of obfuscation. Your task is to wr...

Ah yeah, still need to write the decoder post

betseg

09:23

I love Turkish. "Sıkıldım." means "I'm bored.". "Sikildim." means "I'm fucked." (literal meaning). "Ananas aldırdım." means "I had someone to buy me a pineapple.". "Anana saldırdım." means "I attacked your mother.".

Leaky Nun

@betseg how do you type the dotless i?

betseg

@LeakyNun I have it on my keyboard.

also, İ

Leaky Nun

@betseg alright

TùxCräftîñg

ι

\o/

betseg

@LeakyNun glibc has 2 targets for unicode: i18n and tr_TR, because İ is capital i and I is capital ı in Turkish.

Leaky Nun

09:34

@betseg I see

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Sherlock9 ;_; so complicated

Sherlock9

XD

TùxCräftîñg

huh god it's hard

betseg

@TùxCräftîñg thats greek right?

TùxCräftîñg

yep, it's greek

a iota

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

09:41

@Sherlock9 So is the keyphrase only used for S1 and S2?

@Sherlock9 ^

Sherlock9

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ Yeah, I think so

Let me check

Yep

zyabin101

I'm going to install apps to my new TC VM.

flawr

@betseg Where r u from?

TùxCräftîñg

> RecursionError: maximum recursion depth exceeded in comparison

ಠ_ಠ

zyabin101

@flawr Turkey, I think...

Sherlock9

09:54

I knew I made an error in my example! Brb fixing

flawr

@TùxCräftîñg I'm glad there is no such thing as a maximum recursion depth in Haskell.

betseg

@zyabin101 ye tru

@flawr turkey

TùxCräftîñg

@flawr haskell have tail-call optimization

python dont :/

zyabin101

@betseg Danke schön.

TùxCräftîñg

a(p, 1) = p
a(1, q) = q
a(p, q) = a(p - 1, q) - a(p, q - 1)
f(n) = a(n, n)

^ try to plot this function

betseg

10:00

@zyabin101 Why...why germans use 3 letters for the sound ⟨ʃ⟩... We have ş in Turkish, some other languages have š etc

TùxCräftîñg

after n = 8 this generate a "exponential sinus"

flawr

@betseg Simplicity, note that there is also ch.

betseg

@flawr we have ç, others have č

TùxCräftîñg

french also have ch

betseg

German has a letter for two S's in a row.

TùxCräftîñg

10:03

@Phrancis hi

betseg

@TùxCräftîñg tryin

flawr

@betseg There is actually a difference between ß and ss. (Both are used.)

betseg

@flawr then my teachers were wrong...normal stuff.

flawr

@betseg Luckily in switzerland ß is always written as ss.

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Sherlock9 ?

user214599

10:08

Hes on discord

betseg

@TùxCräftîñg what is this?

TùxCräftîñg

a sequence i have invented

betseg

a(p,q){return q?p?a(p-11,q)-a(p,q-1):q:p;}f(n){return a(n,n);}

flawr

6

TùxCräftîñg

memoization is cool

betseg

10:12

^^ oh this is wrong it returns q if 0,q and vice versa

Sherlock9

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ I did the calculations in the example for VIC by hand. I made one or two errors that were (thank goodness) small

Ah wait. I may have messed up more than I thought

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@flawr +1 makes people waste time waiting to see what it spells

Destructible Watermelon

@Sherlock9 did you factor in the possibility of getting a flush from a different suit of the main one in the calculations (I mean, getting dealt 2 spades, and 1 heart, diamond and club, and getting a club flush)

Sherlock9

@DestructibleWatermelon Nope. Not in the slightest

I think it was accounted for though

Destructible Watermelon

@Sherlock9 It was harder than thought, I guess >:)

Luis Mendo

10:17

@LeakyNun ¿En español? Aquí van algunas que me gustan: 1 2 3

Destructible Watermelon

plumber is just about done

I think I will just add the values of cards

Sherlock9

Ah, no it was not

Leaky Nun

@LuisMendo quiero decir de julio

DerpfacePython

Welp, my code broke Python's recursion limit

Luis Mendo

@LeakyNun Nah. Escucha mejor ésas :-)

TùxCräftîñg

10:17

@DerpfacePython try memoization

Leaky Nun

@LuisMendo de acuerdo

Sherlock9

@DestructibleWatermelon Should be similar to the chances of getting a flush in the beginning though. So that may be why the empirical chance seen is >20% but not much more

DerpfacePython

Should I increase the maximum recursion limit and try again?

Sherlock9

Yeah, I memoized to test my H-sequence code

TùxCräftîñg

memoization is great ~~like jQuery~~

Luis Mendo

10:18

@LeakyNun This one I also like, by Julio. I think it's a cover

Leaky Nun

@LuisMendo eso jamas lo he escuchado jaja

Luis Mendo

@LeakyNun ¡Pues es muy buena!

TùxCräftîñg

def memoize(f):
        D = {}
        def d(*args):
                if len(args) != f.__code__.co_argcount:
                        raise Exception("Wrong number of arguments")

                if args not in D:
                        D[args] = f(*args)
                return D[args]
        return d

a memoization decorator

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

:D sequentialize works

Destructible Watermelon

plumber is done!

Sherlock9

10:20

Question to chat: In your opinion, what is a great programming language to prototype in? I like Python

TùxCräftîñg

@Sherlock9 JS is cool

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Sherlock9 I always use JS

Sherlock9

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ Yeah, I got that and chain add. Working on the first constants

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

Python rarely (usually only for golfing)

my chain add is so long ;_;

TùxCräftîñg

i use python when i want to do a thing quickly (i am very good at python) and JS for every big project

betseg

10:21

@TùxCräftîñg first 15 members: 1, 0, 6, -18, 70, -260, 980, -3710, 14118, -53952, 206932, -796180, 3071692, -11878932, 46034816

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Sherlock9 can i take the keyphrase capitalized and with no spaces?

DerpfacePython

Well, I need to reduce function calls in my code

TùxCräftîñg

@betseg yep

DerpfacePython

Great

zyabin101

I installed a few apps on my TC VM.

DerpfacePython

10:23

You know for the "Hello, World" challenge, right?

TùxCräftîñg

yes

betseg

@zyabin101 for example?

DerpfacePython

Is it OK if I added a new feature to a new program and then updated my code?

Destructible Watermelon

Submitted plumber!

zyabin101

@betseg Dillo graphical web browser, AbiWord word processor (very buggy).

mtPaint painting application, Fluff file manager.

TùxCräftîñg

10:28

my program take 0.015sec to process the first 200 terms

insane

betseg

@TùxCräftîñg what processor?

TùxCräftîñg

@betseg i7 5500 with 8GB of ram

Sherlock9

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ I edited the text to say 'you can assume all spaces and punctuation are removed'

I should put in capitalization

betseg

Quallcom Snapdragon 801 with 1.7 GB of RAM computes the first 17 terms in about a second...

Sherlock9

@TùxCräftîñg I don't know JS well enough or I might try that. Python works for me, at the moment.

TùxCräftîñg

10:32

@betseg try memoization or compile with -O3 (tail call optimization)

betseg

İ dunno what memoization is, and cppdroid gives an error if i try -O3

TùxCräftîñg

Memoization

In computing, memoization is an optimization technique used primarily to speed up computer programs by storing the results of expensive function calls and returning the cached result when the same inputs occur again. Memoization has also been used in other contexts (and for purposes other than speed gains), such as in simple mutually recursive descent parsing in a general top-down parsing algorithm that accommodates ambiguity and left recursion in polynomial time and space. Although related to caching, memoization refers to a specific case of this optimization, distinguishing it from forms of caching...

@betseg and what's the error?

(btw uppercae I dont need a dot)

betseg

@TùxCräftîñg ye i know autocorrect does that

TùxCräftîñg

k

Destructible Watermelon

I have made all the three bots for this challenge

TùxCräftîñg

10:36

it's funny to see how @Community try to protect and remove the featured tag of the sandbox

Destructible Watermelon

1

A: Leo's Pokerface

Plumber, Python Plumber is all about flushes. Plumber also prioritises higher value cards (meaning he can sometimes get straight flushes, especially royal ones (should they occur).) Plumber is pretty much messed if he doesn't get a flush, except that he might be lucky enough for a straight. Plum...

0

A: Leo's Pokerface

LuckyBot, Python Pairbot invited his buddy Luckybot, who sprang for the chance. Luckybot had watched a lot of fictional poker, and reckoned he'd figured out the secret to poker: luck. Everyone knows the real pros (James Bond, for example) really rely and getting good hands, not skill. Hence, he ...

1

A: Leo's Pokerface

(Python), Pairbot, not quite competing (I don't know how to make cmd commands and stuff) Pairbot will compete as soon as someone assists with the bot.jlsc, and zip files etc. Pairbot knows that you don't always get good hands. He knows good hands are rare. Pairbot knows pairs and other duplic...

betseg

@TùxCräftîñg the error is

Compilation error: attempt to invoke interface method 'boolean java.util.List.addAll(java.util.Collection)' on a null object reference

(im tryina compile a C file)

TùxCräftîñg

~~AHHHHHHHH JAVA~~ the compiler is borked visibly

betseg

TùxÇräftîñğ

Pimgd

Jul 25 at 16:47, by Martin Ender

Don't use flags as jokes. They're visible to every 10k user on the entire network.

TùxCräftîñg

10:41

who has flagged what?

Pimgd

@DestructibleWatermelon this got flagged

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Sherlock9 I use JS for both small and big projects :P

flawr

Someone probably considered this as spam.

betseg

I use C for small and big projects lel

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Sherlock9 Is M/date used more than once? or only to generate G?

TùxCräftîñg

10:44

@betseg i use C for projects where i need performance (Processor/1 simulator, planned Ultimath VM)

brb

back

Zgarb

11:01

@MartinEnder I do. :P I was too busy to think about challenges in June and most of July, and lately I've been working on Grime. But I now have a challenge in the works, we'll see how that turns out.

Sherlock9

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ I think it's only used once to generate G

TùxCräftîñg

brb

Martin Ender

11:16

@Zgarb looking forward to it :)

how usable is Jellyfish at this point?

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

> Jellyfish

zyabin101

@MartinEnder Jelly is doing great.

Zgarb

Jellyfish is on a hiatus right now. You can use it, but the library is horribly limited (you can easily convert a number to a given base, but not back again, for example).

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

Sounds like a cross between Jelly and ><>

Zgarb

It is.

github.com/iatorm/jellyfish

mınxomaτ

11:19

@zyabin101 Why do you always answer for other people.

TùxCräftîñg

back

Martin Ender

@zyabin101 I'm glad to hear that.

@Zgarb I guess the main problem might be "Please note: this document is incomplete and possibly not up to date." ;)

Zgarb

That too.

zyabin101

Fish is a veteran now.

Zgarb

I find Grime much more fun to develop, because it's supposed to do one thing well.

Martin Ender

11:23

yeah it's definitely the more useful language, but Jellyfish sounds really fun to use actually

zyabin101

I don't know what would Jellyfish do.

Zgarb

I gotta go now, see you all later.

zyabin101

Goodbye @Zgarb!

Sherlock9

See you later @Zgarb

New Main Posts

0

Q: Integers, Assemble!

Your task is to assemble the integers from 1 to N (given as input) into a rectangle of width W and height H (also given as input). Individual numbers may be rotated by any multiple of 90 degrees. Here is an example. Say your input is (N, W, H) = (12, 5, 3). One possible solution is: 18627 21901...

code-golf number grid tiling

Sherlock9

11:36

It's interesting how many times the name "Brady Haran" appears in the OEIS because of the Numberphile videos :D

TùxCräftîñg

i think my sequence deserve a OEIS.

El'endia Starman

@TùxCräftîñg Submit it, then!

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Sherlock9 0/10 the first one is just a variation of fibonacci

betseg

@Sherlock9 all of his channels are awesome. He even does podcast with CGP Grey

Sherlock9

I keep meaning to listen to that podcast, but I haven't made time to do so

betseg

11:40

@Sherlock9 same ._.

zyabin101

@mınxomaτ ಠ_ಠ I don't.

Sherlock9

Haha my brother and I were just discussing how I do that to him a lot

Apparently

I may be an ass as I don't remember the instances he mentioned

El'endia Starman

Hmm. I wonder what it's like to be the brother of Donkey (from Shrek)...

mınxomaτ

@zyabin101 Yes you do. You just did.

betseg

Is that a Turkish ı or greek iota @mınxomaτ

mınxomaτ

11:45

Jun 5 at 16:16, by Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 Please don't answer for other people.

26 mins ago, by mınxomaτ

@zyabin101 Why do you always answer for other people.

zyabin101

@mınxomaτ Wat, I never do.

ignores

mınxomaτ

@betseg I would have to look that up.

betseg

@mınxomaτ Google says Turkish yay

TùxCräftîñg

@betseg LATIN SMALL LETTER DOTLESS I

mınxomaτ

I was just looking for an i without a dot.

The "T" is a Tau btw.

Martin Ender

11:59

@Zgarb maybe you could ask Dennis to put Jellyfish on TIO? at least that way some people could experiment with it in its current state.

Leaky Nun

@MartinEnder schoen

mınxomaτ

@LeakyNun I don't think that's the word you are looking for :D

Leaky Nun

@mınxomaτ why not?

mınxomaτ

@LeakyNun That would be an appropriate response if something has already happened and you approved. If it has not happened yet, you need the subjunctive ("Das wäre schön").

Leaky Nun

@mınxomaτ I was trying to say "nice answer" to his Retina answer in my challenge

mınxomaτ

12:11

@LeakyNun That would probably be "gute Antwort/Lösung" or "tolle Antwort/Lösung". schön is very uncommon in this situation.

Leaky Nun

@mınxomaτ ah, dankeschoen

TùxCräftîñg

this chatroom is 'Foreign Languages & Code Golf'

Leaky Nun

@TùxCräftîñg j'm'en fous

TùxCräftîñg

ಠ_ಠ

Martin Ender

@LeakyNun We get that you know a lot of languages, but at least where I'm coming from it's generally considered polite to use a language everyone "in the room" understands.

Leaky Nun

12:14

OMG my question got spammed :D

@MartinEnder eh, alright

What if I'm not speaking to everyone else in the room?

I consider it respectful to use their native language to speak to them

Martin Ender

these are not private conversations

and this is an English-speaking community

mınxomaτ

^

Leaky Nun

Well when I'm pinging you then I'm just talking to you

why would everyone else in the room need to know that I praised your answer?

Martin Ender

it isn't rude to talk to people in English even if you could address them in their native language. but it's rude to have a conversation in a public room that only a handful can follow.

mınxomaτ

Exactly

Martin Ender

12:16

you don't see me talking to Dennis, flawr and minxomat in German either

Leaky Nun

Alright

TùxCräftîñg

javascript only have 32-bit integers D:

Leaky Nun

@TùxCräftîñg not really

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@TùxCräftîñg *53-bit integers

Leaky Nun

javascript has up to 53 bits IIRC

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

12:17

and floats

Leaky Nun

javascript only has one number type

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@LeakyNun Yeah, integers are auto-upgraded to floats, kinda like python

TùxCräftîñg

$ node
> 1 << 31
-2147483648
> 1 << 32
1

Leaky Nun

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ not in python

python has infinite integer precision

integers are not auto-upgrated to floats

integers are floats

that's why we only have 53 bits

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ ??

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@LeakyNun Python has multiple number types

They have infinite precision integers, floats and normal integers IIRC

Leaky Nun

12:19

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ alright

TùxCräftîñg

$ node
> 0xFF
255
> 0xFFFFFFFF
4294967295
> 0xFFFFFFFFFF

> 0xFFFFFFFF

>

ಠ_ಠ

Leaky Nun

@TùxCräftîñg Try (1<<30)*2

vs (1<<31)

The bitshift operation makes it as if it were 32 bits

TùxCräftîñg

> (1 << 30) * 2
2147483648
> 1 << 31
-2147483648

mınxomaτ

For node, there's long in npm. But that's kinda inconvenient to use.

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@LeakyNun docs.python.org/2/library/stdtypes.html

Leaky Nun

12:21

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ yes I know

TùxCräftîñg

how to print a character without a newline in nodejs?

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@TùxCräftîñg process.stdout.write

mınxomaτ

process.stdout.write()

:(

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@mınxomaτ ?

mınxomaτ

ninja'd

@flawr I'm impressed. The image URL almost spells Mixalot.

TùxCräftîñg

12:31

how i synchronously 'getch' in nodejs?

Leaky Nun

Halp how get stack length in golfscript

Martin Ender

].,+~

Leaky Nun

@MartinEnder thanks

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@mınxomaτ There's everything in npm

New Sandboxed Posts

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

The world is like a Mirror: smile and it'll smile back code-golfstring Input: A string only containing the following characters: abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789.?! and two special characters (_ and |) Output: Mirror the text based on the position(s) of the _ a...

Sherlock9

12:47

Ah, I forgot how much of a headache disrupted transposition is XD

Leaky Nun

@MartinEnder Do you think you can golf this?

Sherlock9

@MartinEnder I, for one, am interested in the other languages spoken here. However, my policy for foreign languages is the same for answers in programming languages I don't know: explanations please :D

Leaky Nun

@Sherlock9 Entonces debo traducir cada frase en ingles? / So I should translate every sentence to English?

Martin Ender

@LeakyNun not shorter but -1= seems less weird than )\;

Sherlock9

Eh, or "explanations when requested". Or just go with English. I'm just amused by the interjection of other languages all over chat for the past few days.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

12:52

@LeakyNun Hey BTW, on your python answer, I know you're using tabs instead of spaces, but SE displays it as four spaces, so it looks your byte count is higher. You should probably use spaces instead.

Leaky Nun

@MartinEnder I never knew -1 gets parsed as one token lol

@Sherlock9 but some people are not like you

some people find it rude

especially the two German speakers here

namely @MartinEnder and @mınxomaτ

TùxCräftîñg

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ WTF

Leaky Nun

@MartinEnder Do you think you can golf this answer?

Martin Ender

no ideas (that are working) for the GolfScript answer atm

Sherlock9

@LeakyNun Ah, sorry

Leaky Nun

12:58

C:\Users\XXX>npm install everything
npm ERR! addLocal Could not install C:\Users\XXX\node_modules\everythin
g
npm ERR! Windows_NT 6.1.7601
npm ERR! argv "C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\node.exe" "C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\
node_modules\\npm\\bin\\npm-cli.js" "install" "everything"
npm ERR! node v6.3.1
npm ERR! npm  v3.10.3
npm ERR! path C:\Users\XXX\node_modules\everything
npm ERR! code ENOENT
npm ERR! errno -4058
npm ERR! syscall open

npm ERR! enoent ENOENT: no such file or directory, open 'C:\Users\XXX\n

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ ^

@Sherlock9 Why did you say sorry?

@MartinEnder alright thanks

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@LeakyNun You need to npm init first, or npm install everything -g

Sherlock9

@LeakyNun It's my go-to response when I might have made a faux pas

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

Warning: Not recommended, this can easily be a few GB

Leaky Nun

googles faux pas

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ alright, i ain't doing it then

> an embarrassing or tactless act or remark in a social situation.

TùxCräftîñg

> 31 downloads in the last month

they are crazy

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      0. opan saurce LOL

i want this license

Sherlock9

13:04

@LeakyNun I can be quite tactless, so my heuristic is to apologize and work from there

zyabin101

@TùxCräftîñg It's a clone of WTFPL... almost.

TùxCräftîñg

> 0. opan saurce LOL

Nathan Merrill

have any of you windows users gotten the windows update today?

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

help, where's the best place to go to ask about ui design

TùxCräftîñg

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ UX.SE

Martin Ender

13:10

.+
$*x
+`((.*)(^|2|(?<3>1))\2)x
$1$#3
!`.$

@LeakyNun ^

Leaky Nun

@MartinEnder nice, thank you

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@TùxCräftîñg too inactive

TùxCräftîñg

;_;

Martin Ender

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ there's also graphic design

Leaky Nun

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General discussion for linguistics.stackexchange.com

Why is this room so quiet

Nathan Merrill

13:14

@LeakyNun there are very few loud chat rooms

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Doorknob The dark theme doesn't work fully on GraphicDesign.SE

Martin Ender

@NathanMerrill you'd be surprised...

Nathan Merrill

@MartinEnder do you by chance know of an algorithm that generates an random 2d grid with walls, but (as real estate puts it) with an open floor plan?

Martin Ender

I'm not sure what you mean

example output?

Nathan Merrill

there was one yesterday I had hoped was generated...let me find it

hastebin.com/umebavojec.css

Poke

13:18

@TùxCräftîñg relevant

Martin Ender

@NathanMerrill so you just want the walls to be sparse?

Poke

See TimmyD's SO link

Nathan Merrill

@MartinEnder yeah.

Martin Ender

hm, interesting problem. I don't know anything off the top of my head.

I think I have a blog in my feed that posted a lot about map generation at some point though, let me check

Leaky Nun

> 2, the oddest prime

Nathan Merrill

13:22

oooh, I think I know of an algorithm that might work

I wouldn't create the 2x3 block you see

but you could take recursive division

and randomly select a portion of the maze that you actually place

Martin Ender

it's this blog: weblog.jamisbuck.org/archives.html ... the guy is definitely into mazes, because he wrote an entire book about generating them. not sure if any of the blog posts covers what you're looking for though (and he blogs about a lot of other stuff as well)

Nathan Merrill

I've read most of his stuff on mazes, but the above isn't really a maze

Martin Ender

hm I guess

you could also have some sort of self-avoiding wall-growing algorithm or something

Leaky Nun

New challenge in 10 minutes.

(Spoiler: it is about sequence again)

zyabin101

@LeakyNun CMC: Guess which sequence exactly :P

Leaky Nun

13:37

Maybe more minutes...

zyabin101

Sorry, Leaky, you're exempt from this CMC.

Leaky Nun

@zyabin101 go ahead, it's in OEIS

zyabin101

@LeakyNun Hint? :3

Leaky Nun

@zyabin101 not really

zyabin101

>_>

betseg

13:39

So ur postin w/o sandboxin

TimmyD

@Poke Whoa, I was referenced. Neat. :D

Leaky Nun

@betseg Eh, you're advised to use the sandbox before posting your questions so that other people can comment and suggest before your challenge goes live

Poke

@TimmyD :D You helped me out that time and tux was running into a similar scenario. I think we determined that only a handful of langs (like Go) don't exhibit that behavior

Nathan Merrill

13:57

@orlp : Actually, there was a very successful Gypsy fortune-teller woman active some time ago in my area who could predict the gender in the first month of pregnancy very successfully out of Tarot cards or whatever. Her method: saying one thing and writing the opposite into her big book. If she guessed correctly, the parents were satisfied, otherwise if the parents came back to complain, she took her big book, looked up the date and names in front of the parents, at showed them the "correct" entry, claiming that the parents remembered it incorrectly. — vsz 8 hours ago

TimmyD

Hah

mınxomaτ

Genius.

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