The Nineteenth Byte

aditsu

21:18

Republicans Plagiarized A LOT Of Lines At RNC

trichoplax

This made me wonder if the simplification can be automated, which led to me discovering simplish.org. It's not as impressive as I'd hoped though...

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

21:31

\o/

Fatalize

5.8k questions 58k answers

oddly satisfying

Martin Ender

there's only 105 unanswered challenges. we should have an event or something where we try to answer as many of those as possible. (I think there's a couple which might be impossible, but proving that isn't any easier, but I'm sure the vast majority can be done with a bit of effort.)

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mbomb007

@Dennis BF to Sesos: ideone.com/uYIeVB

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Let's start with quest for tetris.

Martin Ender

Phi's already on that, isn't he?

mbomb007

21:35

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Some users are already taking that on.

It's in progress.

Yeah

and @El'endiaStarman I think

LegionMammal978

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Where's that from?

Martin Ender

stackexchange.com I think

Fatalize

@MartinEnder Good luck

LegionMammal978

@MartinEnder Yeah, we still have a few passive bounties

^^

mbomb007

@Fatalize As we just said, that challenge is in progress.

Fatalize

21:37

@mbomb007 It's been in progress for so long that I doubt it will ever get answered

mbomb007

No, I mean a group of users is working on it.

Martin Ender

If we can come up with a good prize, we could make it a competition. We take the list of unanswered challenges at some point in time, set a deadline (the end of the year, say, or just two months in the future or something), and everyone who is leading in one of these challenges at that time gets points equal to the challenge's net score (or 1 if that's less than 1).

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

The prize should be having helka write a challenge themed around the winner.

I remember doing something like that a while ago.

Rainbolt

You can use my rep if you want. I'll bounty the overall winner.

Martin Ender

Taking notes...

Rainbolt

21:41

I don't really need privileges on a site I barely participate in (aside from chat)

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

I'd probably bounty also. Not a huge one, but I'd contribute some.

I'd also compete though. :P

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Rainbolt pls send all teh repz

Luis Mendo

@MartinEnder We need more challenges inspired on GEB :-)

Fatalize

this one is interesting, but the input/output formats are needlessly complicated

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

haha ZWSP to the ~~rescue~~ fail

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Q: What is this character: '*'?

A friend pasted a command into a Slack chat room which contained the character *. This looks like a normal * but isn't: $ uniprops '*' uniprops: no character named ‹*› While if I run uniprops on the asterisk I get when typing on my machine, I get: $ uniprops '*' U+002A ‹*› \N{ASTERISK} ...

El'endia Starman

21:46

@Fatalize I've just started working on the last major piece needed to complete the "proof", so to speak. It'll get answered soon enough, don't worry.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@MartinEnder a lot can be removed by upvoting the answers ... :P

PhiNotPi

@El'endiaStarman How much progress have you made?

El'endia Starman

@PhiNotPi I literally just started. :P

PhiNotPi

@El'endiaStarman okay good

Lynn

Wow, Try It Online runs on… Bash?!

mbomb007

21:55

@Dennis It's funny, writing Sesos somehow seems more fun than writing BF, but it's not actually any easier. In fact, the commands can't even be on the same line, and it's harder to read at a glance.

(I'm working on your challenge, in case you didn't figure that out)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Lynn I don't think so?

Lynn

github.com/DennisMitchell/tryitonline/blob/master/cgi-bin/…

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

oh

I misread as "runs bash"

Dennis

22:19

@mbomb007 My goal was to make it easier to type (and golfier), without making it easier to program in. I'd like to think I achieved that.

I went for one instruction per line since it's easier to generate meaningful error messages this way, but I'll happily add an option that allows more than one instruction on a single line.

@Lynn Indeed. It might not be an obvious choice, but I was more confident that I could write a backend in bash that isn't susceptible to code injection than in any other language. Since it mostly calls external programs anyway, it kinda made sense.

@mbomb007 That's neat. I should add that to the interpreter.

If that's OK with you, of course.

Luis Mendo

22:40

@Dennis Can you give MATL a gentle pull? :-)

@Dennis Sesos <-- that name... :-D

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

As opposed to a rough pull?

Dennis

@LuisMendo Done. I hope I didn't pull too hard. ;)

Luis Mendo

Haha

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Of course. Gentle is better

Dennis

@LuisMendo I initially considered cervelli fritti (fried brains in Italian), but then I realized that I couldn't pronounce that. :P

El'endia Starman

TIL Sesos is an actual word and thing.

Luis Mendo

22:46

@Dennis The culinary reference is weird. I don't like the idea of eating that :-)

Dennis

Neither do I. I just wanted a name that relates to messed up brains without being vulgar.

Luis Mendo

@Dennis Actually Italian pronunciation is easy for a Spanish speaker. Just pronounce longer the consonants that are doubled; replace "ce" by "che", and "v" is like in English. So: "chervel-li frit-ti"

@Dennis You totally achieved that, then

Dennis

@LuisMendo That easy, huh? I went to Italy a couple of times, but that was a looong time ago...

LegionMammal978

≒

^ what does that character exist?

Luis Mendo

@Dennis Yep. Very easy. Actually I speak some Italian. Very easy coming from Spanish

Dennis

22:51

@LegionMammal978 There's levitating business man in a suit, and that is the character you're wondering about?

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Should alias term1 term2 make term2 an alias for term1, or vice versa?

Dennis

The alias comes first, then the original.

LegionMammal978

May 27 at 15:15, by LegionMammal978

@LeakyNun Mathematica, C#, C, l33tsp34k, American English, JavaScript (if I have MDN open), Coq proofs, and a few others

^ the languages I do know

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ "alias term1 to term2", so term1 should be an alias for term2.

PhiNotPi

I know English and can fake my way through programming.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

22:52

cool, thanks @El'endiaStarman and @Dennis

LegionMammal978

^^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Luis Mendo

@Dennis BTW, sesos means "brains" not just from a culinary perspective, but in general, at least in Spain. Isn't that the case in America? So you may want to remove the culinary reference from GitHub. Just sayng :-P

Dennis

@LuisMendo Probably I learned Spanish a good decade after being in Italy for the last time.

Luis Mendo

@Dennis Hahaha. You should go back then

Dennis

22:54

@LuisMendo At least here, sesos is never used in a non-culinary sense. Wikipedia agrees with me.

Sesos

Sesos es el término usado para referirse al (cerebro) generalmente en un contexto culinario pues los sesos, como la mayoría de órganos internos y demás casquería, pueden emplearse como alimento. Entre los usados con este fin están los de cerdos, ardillas, caballos, vacuno, monos, pollos y cabras. En muchas culturas, diversos tipos de sesos se consideran una delicia. == Consumo == Los sesos se preparan con frecuencia revueltos con huevo. En el sur de Estados Unidos pueden encontrarse sesos de cerdo enlatados en gravy, que a menudo se preparan con huevos revueltos para obtener eggs n' brains. También...

Luis Mendo

Ew :-)

Dennis

Totally.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

so, you omitted the profanity? +1

Luis Mendo

RAE agrees with me. But then, I don't consider RAE the reference in general

Dennis

Those are the ones that try to convince us to write güisqui, right?

Luis Mendo

22:56

Yep

Exactly for that reason I don't consider it a good reference

:-D

Also bluyín

Ugh

Dennis

I'm not even sure what that stands for.

Luis Mendo

Haha. It requires some imagination

Dennis

Wait, blue jeans?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

any git people in here?

Dennis

I use git, but I shouldn't.

Luis Mendo

22:57

This is my "favourite" @Dennis

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I use git but my knowledge of it is fairly minimal.

Luis Mendo

I use GitHub, but xkcd-style

(literally)

Dennis

@LuisMendo Yikes. Bluyin is worse though.

El'endia Starman

Though, from what I've heard, I seem to know more about git than most people in here....which is weird.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman if I have a regular folder, how do I make that folder's content into a github repo?

Dennis

22:59

My universal fix to git problems is delete and re-clone.

feersum

I use git and I've never had to delete all the data and start over from the same code, so I guess that makes me an expert.

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El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Go into the folder, git init to turn it into a git repo, commit everything, make a repo on GitHub, do git remote add origin <link to GitHub repo>, git push origin master.

Agent CrazyPython

@Downgoat what happened to the comment on my EULA? it's not there anymore.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

C:\Users\Conor O'Brien\Documents\Programming\eacal (master)
λ git push origin master
To github.com/ConorOBrien-Foxx/eacal.git
 ! [rejected]        master -> master (non-fast-forward)
error: failed to push some refs to 'https://github.com/ConorOBrien-Foxx/eacal.git'
hint: Updates were rejected because the tip of your current branch is behind
hint: its remote counterpart. Integrate the remote changes (e.g.
hint: 'git pull ...') before pushing again.
hint: See the 'Note about fast-forwards' in 'git push --help' for details.

quartata

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Whoa cool

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ You created the repo with a readme most likely

Next time make it empty

In the mean time just use --force

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

23:05

-.- and a gitignore. now what

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ git pull origin master then git push origin master again.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman you are a wizard. thanks!

quartata

> wizard

clearly a hedgehog

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

hedgehog wizard.

quartata

anyways it's a pretty basic command, get used to doing git pull

feersum

23:07

Don't do git pull.

It's an error-prone command which leads to you deleting your repo and starting over.

quartata

OK.... get used to doing git fetch and git merge branch

feersum

You mean git merge <BRANCH>?

quartata

yes I was thinking of something else

Quill

23:24

Git is pretty easy if you do a tutorial or something

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Dennis hey could you add eacal to tryitonline? you don't have to if you don't want to subject yourself to node again. ;)

Dennis

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I'll look into it. Remind me in a couple of days if I forget.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Okay, will do. Thanks!

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

23:43

Fist of the North Star Punches

►

quartata

23:59

Who would have thought I'd spend two days on something that was supposed to be as simple as getting the clip of the current weapon

Blergh. My enthusiasm for this KoTH has definitely gone down

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