The Nineteenth Byte

Leaky Nun

2:00 PM

The French Days of the Week (French Essentials Lesson 4)

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This is interesting

in 00:37, the di in mar-di is higher pitched

Katenkyo

(can't see it right now :))

Leaky Nun

in 01:36, the mar in mar-di has a higher pitch

Katenkyo

I know people who have no intonations while speaking french, and it's technically not a problem because french has none by default

Leaky Nun

@Katenkyo so how do you pronounce it? the di always has a higher pitch? or does it depend?

Fatalize

You should attempt to speak like a robot

Katenkyo

2:03 PM

Or rather, it's the sentence that have intonations, and define how you pronunce words, words have no defaults

Fatalize

pitch and length are irrelevant

Leaky Nun

@Fatalize y a-t-il une diffe/rence entre e^tres humains et robots?

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@LeakyNun Sorry, I don't understand.

Katenkyo

@LeakyNun how you link your words when speaking

Humans starts the words by using the end of the previous one, robots don't

Leaky Nun

@Katenkyo isn't human-brain effectively a computer?

Katenkyo

2:06 PM

@LeakyNun A sophisticated one, when you look at how the neural networks work actually ^^

Leaky Nun

The Turing game.

Poke

you guys don't seem like robots to me

TimmyD

"Perfectly Normal Human Worm Baby"

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Leaky Nun

@Poke that's because robots haven't been developed to that great extent

inherently I do not see any difference

Katenkyo

Technically, robots are the same thing as human, they just have a less effecive brain

Or at least, less effective at what humans do

Leaky Nun

2:16 PM

@Katenkyo humans are also less effective at what robots (computers) do

Katenkyo

But as we're starting to play around with Quantum Computers, we may be able in the next decades to design a real AI

@LeakyNun I don't see what you're talking about, most humans can easily compute 26354**5

Leaky Nun

@Katenkyo in how many seconds

while computers compute it at a scale of nanoseconds

what about 26354**100?

Katenkyo

(that was sarcastic ^^)

@LeakyNun easy, it's 2635400 (a)

Leaky Nun

:o

Katenkyo

But yeah, Human's brain and robot's brain (processor etc) are designed for different purpose

And human's brain is the result of a looooong evolution

Leaky Nun

2:20 PM

@Katenkyo we can speed up evolution with computers ^^

(what an irony)

Katenkyo

Without speaking about sentience (which is the only real thing between current bots and IA) even the structure of our brain (or animals brain) is amazingly complex

Leaky Nun

@Katenkyo human's brain is essentially a pattern recognizer

~~and a pretty good one~~

Katenkyo

@LeakyNun Yes, because we're using a computing power greater than brain's one to analyze datas

But were brain is doing its magic, is when you look at how it is able to link those datas and produce outputs from it

@LeakyNun The problem here is that morals, philosophy and lots of thing can't be produced and understood by a pattern recognizer

Leaky Nun

alright, pattern recognizer is a part of human brain

philosophy is just untested hypotheses

Katenkyo

But I agree that its basic functions are build upon a pattern recognizer, which is why it freaks out when in an unknown situation

Leaky Nun

2:26 PM

generated by our pattern recognizer to try to reason the world around us

You Are Two

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This is amazing.

Katenkyo

@LeakyNun I know that science was a part of philosophy at first, but isn't pure mathematic a better way to do that for the brain?

Leaky Nun

@Katenkyo Je ne comprends pas.

Katenkyo

If philosophy was a way for our pattern recognizer to rationalise and builde new patterns to udnerstand the world, wouldn't mathematics be, by essence, the natural way for our brain to do that?

(If I recall correctly, science and mathematics were the same thing as philosophy at first)

Leaky Nun

science belongs to philosophy

but I'm not referring to those

I'm referring to basically metaphysics

questions like "who are we"

"what is consciousness"

questions which science cannot yet answer

philosophy tries to build an answer

an untested hypothesis

@Katenkyo sure, why not

Katenkyo

That's why I asked why metaphysics and not enforce pure mathematics as mathematics follow a pattern, metaphysics don't

Also, we can't yet define that with science, because we still can't define what's sentience

Leaky Nun

2:32 PM

sure

@Katenkyo but mathematics is more rigorous, lol

Katenkyo

I think therefore I am, but why am I able to think?

Leaky Nun

but mathematics is still not science

Katenkyo

@LeakyNun Mathematics IS science

Leaky Nun

@Katenkyo nope.

Katenkyo

it's the machine language of science

Leaky Nun

2:33 PM

but it is not science

it is a useful tool for science

but it is not science

Katenkyo

Hum... Can you give me your definition of science?

I think we may have different one

Leaky Nun

That which employs the scientific method

Katenkyo

For me, science is the entire set of rules we've found and we will find to modelise the world

@LeakyNun in this case, what's the scientific method?

Leaky Nun

Katenkyo

Ok, so you consider science as a subset of philosophy, and mathematics are just tools to prove your theory, that's it?

Leaky Nun

2:38 PM

@Katenkyo yes, but when I casually refer to philosophy, I am really talking about metaphysics

Katenkyo

If I understood well, it's an interesting point of view, and certainly more natural than mine

@LeakyNun As we all do, because it is what is teached in philosophy course

But in essence, it is philosophy, as it's the quest to knowledge and understanding

Leaky Nun

@Katenkyo this I am not sure

Katenkyo

@LeakyNun Pythagoras was a philosopher for instance

Rainbolt

I want to code with this! getspace.io

Katenkyo

Philosopher comes from philos to love and sophia knowledge, literally the one who loves knowledge

:30702138 (thanks for the correction)

Leaky Nun

2:42 PM

Alright.

Katenkyo

On the other hand, physicists like to say physics is to math as sex is to masturbation.

Leaky Nun

That is one point I disagree with the image on

Katenkyo

just link mathematics is just applied philosphy on the right, and that's a rough exemple of what I think

Leaky Nun

That's a point on which I disagree with the image

That's a point which I disagree with the image on

Katenkyo

@LeakyNun it's rough, and imaged to be comic, but that's approximately what I think. What bugs you? ^^

Leaky Nun

2:45 PM

@Katenkyo physics is not applied maths

Katenkyo

@LeakyNun Maths are abstract, physics uses things found by mathematicians to "real" cases

Leaky Nun

@Katenkyo but physics is not applied maths

chemistry is applied physics

because the ways chemicals react with each other is entirely governed by physical laws

LegionMammal978

Time travel is complicated

Leaky Nun

@Katenkyo but the way physics and maths interact is a completely different tory

Katenkyo

@LeakyNun physics is still governed by mathematical laws

Leaky Nun

2:48 PM

@Katenkyo That is the point the comic is trying to bring, which I disagree with.

Poke

@LegionMammal978 that movie is a masterpiece

LegionMammal978

@Poke Still have to see it myself :|

Katenkyo

Else, you wouldn't need to find math tools to understand what's happen at the event horizon of a black hole for instance

Poke

@LegionMammal978 it's absolutely worth it

Leaky Nun

@Katenkyo as long as you are only using maths, it isn't established science

Katenkyo

2:50 PM

The problem which lies within "applied math == physics", is that math is purely abstract, hence it cannot be directly applied

Leaky Nun

that's why even Hawking is doubting the existence of the event horizon

to me, maths is a tool which physics uses to build their models to describe and explain the real world

but physics is inherently based on the real world, instead of mathematical laws

Katenkyo

@LeakyNun But mathematics are based on the real world too,

Mmmm, nevermind

I'm starting to get what you say (in my manner)

Leaky Nun

@Katenkyo maths is related to the real world, but maths is built on axioms and theorems

which comes from not the real world

but philosophy.

in some sense.

VSauce says (paraphrasing), that maths tries to make itself rigorous, and in this process, starts to match up with the real world

LegionMammal978

(from xkcd)

Leaky Nun

@Katenkyo A simple example which I have used: do you know the Fifth Axiom?

Katenkyo

2:54 PM

@LeakyNun I don't

LegionMammal978

@LeakyNun Induction on naturals?

Leaky Nun

@Katenkyo It's simple: for any given line, and a point outside the line, there is only one line which passes through the point and which is parallel to the given line.

Poke

@LegionMammal978 i sorta agree with that but the confusion starts about halfway through and not as early as that chart suggests

Leaky Nun

For example:
------- (a line)

. (a point)

then there is only one way to draw a line through the point parallel to the line:

------- (original line)

------- (line through point)

LegionMammal978

Wait, no, that's the 9th axiom, the 5th is that natural numbers are closed under equality

Leaky Nun

2:56 PM

@LegionMammal978 alright, not the peano axioms

the fifth postulate

Katenkyo

@LeakyNun Okay, can understand for the moment ^^

Leaky Nun

@Katenkyo so you see the word "one" in the axiom

there is only one line which ...

and by changing this word, you come up with entirely different geometries

LegionMammal978

@LeakyNun That's Playfair's axiom

The Fifth Postulate states:

> If a line segment intersects two straight lines forming two interior angles on the same side that sum to less than two right angles, then the two lines, if extended indefinitely, meet on that side on which the angles sum to less than two right angles.

Leaky Nun

@LegionMammal978 they are equivalent

Parallel postulate

In geometry, the parallel postulate, also called Euclid's fifth postulate because it is the fifth postulate in Euclid's Elements, is a distinctive axiom in Euclidean geometry. It states that, in two-dimensional geometry: If a line segment intersects two straight lines forming two interior angles on the same side that sum to less than two right angles, then the two lines, if extended indefinitely, meet on that side on which the angles sum to less than two right angles. Euclidean geometry is the study of geometry that satisfies all of Euclid's axioms, including the parallel postulate. A geometry...

> Many other statements equivalent to the parallel postulate have been suggested, some of them appearing at first to be unrelated to parallelism, and some seeming so self-evident that they were unconsciously assumed by people who claimed to have proven the parallel postulate from Euclid's other postulates. These equivalent statements include:

There is at most one line that can be drawn parallel to another given one through an external point. (Playfair's axiom)
The sum of the angles in every triangle is 180° (triangle postulate).

Poke

@LeakyNun and bad grammar :D

Katenkyo

2:58 PM

@LeakyNun I get what you mean, Mathematics defined the world's it's used in, and as we progress further, it starts to match the real world

Leaky Nun

@Poke please teach me

Katenkyo

But it still is a theoretical world

Poke

well "line" is singular so you'd need an "s"

Leaky Nun

@Katenkyo the point is, by changing the word, you have different geometries, and it turns out that the spherical geometry is a closer match to reality than the classical geometry

@Poke Can you correct the whole sentence?

@Katenkyo so we just choose the axioms that fit reality

the process of choosing is physics

Poke

and you'd need to use a different conjugation of "to be"

Leaky Nun

3:01 PM

the axioms by themselves is mathematics

@Poke I mean, can you write down the corrected sentence?

Poke

For what value of "one"

Leaky Nun

> so you see the word "one" in the axiom
there is only one line which ...
and by changing this word, you come up with entirely different geometries

> so you see the word "one" in the axiom:
"there is only one line which ..."
and by changing this word (referring to the word "one"), you come up with entirely different geometries

Katenkyo

@LeakyNun Understood, makes a lot of sense

Leaky Nun

@Katenkyo thanks

Poke

I was injecting comic relief and now i'm depressed

Katenkyo

3:03 PM

@LeakyNun There's still something that bugs me and convince me of the link between math and physics, but can't phrase it

I may ping you one day if I can explain it :p

Leaky Nun

@Katenkyo welcome

Katenkyo

Also, it was pretty interesting to see how we simply started with lua and french :)

Leaky Nun

lua -> humans vs robots -> robots can't come up with philosophy -> philosophy is useless -> nature of science

lol

@Katenkyo Point to take home: physics is based on the scientific method, which means it is based on the real world, the description and explanation of the real world.

maths is built on axioms and theorems, and occasionally some of those theorems are useful to physics

theorem vs theory

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TimmyD

3:23 PM

powershell-feature-request A B numeric format specifier for binary conversion so I can do "{0:B}"-f$a rather than [convert]::ToString($a,2) ...

mınxomaτ

3:38 PM

Just got over 100 € cash back from my landlord. Apparently I consume less power, water and heat than one person.

TimmyD

Make it rain.

El'endia Starman

@mınxomaτ Hahaha, nice!

mınxomaτ

@TimmyD No 1 € bills :-(

Only really ugly fivers

And coins would hurt I imagine.

TimmyD

Make it ~~rain~~ hail.

mınxomaτ

The last time I handled actual cash was over 7 months ago. Every place I go accepts my NFC credit card nowadays (for smaller amounts).

I love my bank. The card they issue combines all the weird cards we have here (credit, debit, moneycard, NFC payment...).

Helka Homba

3:47 PM

@mınxomaτ even laundry machines and car washes?

mınxomaτ

@HelkaHomba I don't have a car, I always use public transport. And why in the world would I pay my own laundry machine o.O

TimmyD

Self-service laundry

A self-service laundry, coin laundry or coin wash is a facility where clothes are washed and dried. They are known in the United Kingdom as launderettes or laundrettes, and in the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand as laundromats (from the genericized trademark of the Westinghouse Electric Corporation) or washaterias. George Edward Pendray created the word "laundromat" for Westinghouse. == Staffed laundries == Some laundries employ staff to provide service for the customers. Minimal service centres may simply provide an attendant behind a counter to provide change, sell washing powder...

mınxomaτ

@TimmyD We have those, but they are more like a hipster novelty thing. I don't know anyone without their own machine.

TimmyD

They're pretty common here in the US. Pretty much every town over ~1500 people has at least one.

mınxomaτ

According to statista, at least 92 % of households in Germany have their own machines.

Helka Homba

3:53 PM

@mınxomaτ plenty of motels/apartment complexes/buildings only have communal coin-op laundry (in US)

mınxomaτ

@HelkaHomba Larger houses here have a place where everyone can put their own machine (usually the basement), but in my apartment, there's a spot for it in my bathroom.

I only know one laundromat in my neighborhood. But only because it's also a cafe. (And on Sundays, an illegal cinema, too)

TimmyD

Similar with vending machines. The vast, vast, vast majority in the US are coin-operated, with a few able to accept $1 bills, and very few able to accept $5 or $10 bills. NFC for a vending machine is a rarity. Heck, most can't even accept dollar coins

mınxomaτ

If I ever use a vending machine, it's at like an airport or train station. Those usually accept one variety of the weird cards we have.

TimmyD

For some reason, USians are very resistant to 1) getting rid of the penny, and 2) accepting dollar coins.

I'm expecting that NFC and the like will gain widespread acceptance before either of those happen.

mınxomaτ

Didn't Canada ditch the penny a while ago?

Helka Homba

3:58 PM

@TimmyD tbh I'd rather carry bills around than bulky heavy coins

TimmyD

@mınxomaτ Yeah, a couple years.

mınxomaτ

We recently got rid of the 500 € bill (still valid, but not printed anymore).

El'endia Starman

I'm totally down for getting rid of the penny (in the USA), but not $1 bills.

mınxomaτ

Some people have a strong attachment to cash. Not me. If it were my decision, we would stop the hardcash, debit card and moneycard and just use digital payments and 3Dsecure credit cards.

This would also make (filing) taxes extremely easy.

Helka Homba

Community ads progress: not yet, waiting

aditsu

4:04 PM

Jun 24 at 16:56, by aditsu

so, I have to ask.. wth are "community ads"?

mınxomaτ

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This photo makes looks like it's connected to the internet with a single cable.

Helka Homba

Community Promotion Ads

Robert Cartaino on May 31, 2011

You may have seen our vote-based advertising for open source projects on Stack Overflow — Stack Overflow users create ads for their favorite open source projects, and the community votes for the projects they'd like to see promoted on the site.

We had a "beta" one a couple years back: meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/1356/…

aditsu

I see.. so something like "want to juic avocad? come to ppcg!"

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to be shown randomly on all SE pages

Helka Homba

@aditsu Well maybe. The point is they were supposed to be revamped or redone 4 months ago but never were afaik. TBH I'm not super eager for them, I'd just like to see SE show some accountability to us (and nudge us in the direction of true graduation)

aditsu

I'd rather have custom wording/design/features

dorukayhan

4:21 PM

whatever we do we must mention avocados

Helka Homba

@aditsu Same. But if they make our logo a golf ball I'm leaving.

aditsu

dorukayhan

@HelkaHomba what about a golf ball made out of semicolons?

aditsu

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Helka Homba

If they make our logo avocado related I'm definitely leaving.

orlp

4:26 PM

@HelkaHomba what is wrong with glorious avocad?

aditsu

after Calvin left, threats of leaving don't seem to be such a big deal anymore..

orlp

@aditsu calvin never left?

aditsu

yes he did, there's no Calvin anymore..

orlp

he's still, right here, making threats to leave

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@orlp the avocad meme is old... >_>

orlp

4:28 PM

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 so am I

don't be ageist

aditsu

it's not even 1 year old ><

orlp

@aditsu 1 year can be many, many seconds, depending on which planet you live

El'endia Starman

@orlp I'd like to know what planet has a year that is not "many, many seconds". :P

aditsu

it depends on your definition of year, but why are we getting into this discussion?!

El'endia Starman

Is not the definition of a year the amount of time it takes for a body to make a full revolution around its host star?

Leaky Nun

4:34 PM

@El'endiaStarman that's one definition of year

El'endia Starman

Let's see what Wiktionary says.

year

Noun: Wikipedia

year ‎(plural years)
The time it takes the Earth to complete one revolution of the Sun (between 365.24 and 365.26 days depending on the point of reference).
we moved to this town a year ago; I quit smoking exactly one year ago‎
(by extension) The time it takes for any planetary body to make one revolution around another body.
Mars goes around the sun once in a Martian year, or 1.88 Earth years.‎

(12 more not shown…)

Leaky Nun

Oh, I confused.

It is the amount of time it takes to make a full revolution, but according to what.

for one, it does not move around in perfect ellipses

if I recall correctly.

aditsu

@El'endiaStarman I like definition no.1, it explains it very well

El'endia Starman

Very far-away stars provide a background that is pretty much unchanging in the time it takes for a year to happen.

Leaky Nun

@El'endiaStarman now I can say: that is one definition of year.

El'endia Starman

4:36 PM

@aditsu Haha, the one-box messes up the formatting. Click through.

@LeakyNun No, that's not a definition of "year". It allows a year to be measured.

Leaky Nun

How Earth Moves

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@El'endiaStarman That's one measurement of year

watch from 05:55

El'endia Starman

I've seen that video already.

Leaky Nun

oh, alright

well, I may be mistaken, because I'm not an expertise on this

perhaps I confused that with the multitude of definitions of day

aditsu

planet "PSR J1719-1438 b" has a 2.2-hour year

if you use that definition of year

El'endia Starman

Holy moly. I knew there would be exoplanets with short years, but not that short.

Leaky Nun

4:40 PM

@aditsu how many definitions are there?

El'endia Starman

I wonder if it's in the process of being torn apart by tidal forces (is it at or inside the Roche limit?).

aditsu

@LeakyNun according to the onebox above, at least 5+12=17

Leaky Nun

alright.

El'endia Starman

@aditsu >.< There are five definitions on the page itself.

aditsu

@El'endiaStarman I see at least seven

El'endia Starman

4:42 PM

Oh whoops, misremembered. It's still not 17 either way.

aditsu

true, that's why I clarified "according to the onebox above" :)

El'endia Starman

...which includes "definitions" of the word itself and a sample sentence... :P

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aditsu

so, this is happening? ^

Business Cat

'bout time...

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

4:52 PM

Should I add the bounty ad?

aditsu

wait, so are community ads for attracting other people to ppcg? or for informing ppcg users about other things? the meta post seems to suggest the latter

Business Cat

It is ads that appear on this site

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@aditsu The latter.

Downgoat

@Geobits you gonna post this as a community ad? :P

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@Downgoat But I just wanted to do this :/

aditsu

4:55 PM

@Downgoat that's bad grammar

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 that means I misunderstood earlier :/

TimmyD

@Downgoat *yours

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

Don't know where the bounty ad picture is?

It is something like,

aditsu

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 these ads are of the former type though, so I'm kinda confused

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

There are
.-. .-.
| | .-'
'-' '--
active bounties,
worth [+500]

aditsu

do both types of community ads exist?

Downgoat

5:00 PM

@NewMetaPosts @mod pin this? It's kinda important

aditsu

it doesn't seem important to me :p but go ahead

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

Where is the bounty ad picture? :/

It is like in this Code Review answer.

Downgoat

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A: Community Promotion Ads - 2016

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 they've setup a PHP server I believe to serve thsoe

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 added it

aditsu

@Downgoat but but.. there's no sand in the sandbox :(

only challenges in various stages of death

Downgoat

:/

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

5:10 PM

Now, I need a project to advertise.

Poke

@aditsu sometimes there's salt! huehue

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

I have no projects related with programming puzzles or code golf :/

Helka Homba

@NewMetaPosts The squeaky wheel gets the community ads!

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

And I don't want to do nested-programs.

Downgoat

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 make an ad to advertise our chatroom or a language's, or something maybe. "Wanna learn golfing language ______. Join us in _____!"

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

5:12 PM

Good idea!

Dennis

PPCG has a twitter account?

Helka Homba

In case people missed it:

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@Dennis Yes, it has!

Poke

# mysqladmin -u root -p drop databasename
Enter password:
Dropping the database is potentially a very bad thing to do.

Downgoat

anyone knows who runs the bounty-ticker CA?

Helka Homba

5:15 PM

We have Community Ads!

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Poke

mysql is so helpful

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@Downgoat Stack Exchange's server farm.

Downgoat

no it's a user not SE

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@Downgoat Nope, it's SE itself.

A server regularly captures the questions with open bounties and compiles an ad.

Dennis

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 I know.

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A: Community Promotion Ads - 2016

Downgoat

5:18 PM

@Dennis pin the community ad post?

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 but it's on herokuapp. surely SE would use their own servers with SSL and all if so

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

Maybe finally I should do the golfdocs?

Downgoat

> The image is dynamically generated from a non-officially SE app

aditsu

♫ if you liked it then you should have put a bounty on it ♫

Downgoat

can someone with a lot of rep to spare start a bounty on main? :3

FryAmTheEggman

Aren't there only like 30 users with more rep than you? :P

Downgoat

5:28 PM

:| yeah but i just reached 15K and i dont wanna go back to 14k >_>

FryAmTheEggman

The OCD is strong with this one... :P

Downgoat

@mod maybe also make the Community Ads post [featured]?

Helka Homba

@Downgoat I will for codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/83933/… once available

aditsu

@Bálint hey guess what I just hired :)

Downgoat

@aditsu I'd've thought we'd be over avocados by now ಠ_ಠ

aditsu

5:33 PM

@Downgoat avocad is foreva!

Downgoat

there should be an @mod ping which will ping whichever mod comes into the room first

Dennis

@Downgoat Can't. SSL connection error. Wth?

Downgoat

wat. link isn't even https ._.

Dennis

No idea... It went away.

aditsu

dorukayhan

5:39 PM

can we remove the featured tag from the sandbox? it seems to prevent the community ads post from coming up on the main site

quartata

@dorukayhan Featured posts take several hours to update

Give it some time

dorukayhan

@quartata oh

Bald Bantha

@Downgoat feature-request

quartata

Yeah, SE powers that with a Valve clock it seems

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

Create repository? [Yes/No]>

Downgoat

5:44 PM

IMO Not all challenges are well-received in the first try, but there's a place to improve. is better than Have a challenge idea? Just like sand?. — dorukayhan 2 mins ago

Bald Bantha

Scouting just hit 10 followers! It hasn't taken off like I thought it would.

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