The Nineteenth Byte

orlp

23:02

@ChrisJester-Young meta.stackexchange.com/a/277561/158758

look at the source

Chris Jester-Young

@orlp Whoa, gnarly.

Still, not sure why you're pinging me about it, given I don't work at the company any more and can't fix it. :-P

orlp

@ChrisJester-Young oh wasn't aware of that

Chris Jester-Young

:-)

aditsu

@ChrisJester-Young oh, what happened?

quartata

He left to start his own programming education startup

aditsu

23:11

really? cool

feersum

Another fun one: Type

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and the Markdown editor hangs (at least for me).

Too bad I don't have 10 rep to post it as an answer.

Chris Jester-Young

@aditsu Here's my mission: wslk.io/jLKsW If it floats your boat, lemme know and I'll keep you up to date on it! :-)

I am in the process of starting a Slack instance for people who are interested, to share ideas and test stuff out. :-)

aditsu

@ChrisJester-Young it disappeared while I was reading it >_<

Chris Jester-Young

@aditsu Some people have had luck opening it in an incognito window.

But yeah, the regwall is really annoying.

I need to harass them about it again, I think.

Dennis

And wiselike just made my JavaScript block list.

Chris Jester-Young

23:20

@Dennis Cool! Does that turn off the regwall?

DJ McMayhem

Hey, I just got a notification that a comment is offensive.

Dennis

@ChrisJester-Young After you delete the site's cookies, yes.

DJ McMayhem

I hit valid, but now I want to see if I really said that. Is there anyway to do that?

Cause I don't remember commenting that.

aditsu

it was probably somebody else's comment

DJ McMayhem

Then why did I get notified of it?

aditsu

23:21

and valid = offensive

DJ McMayhem

Yeah, I agreed that it was offensive.

aditsu

because you have enough reputation to participate in that

DJ McMayhem

I thought only mods see chat flags.

Doorknob

Blue spam/offensive flags are visible to 10k+ and mods

Orange mod-only flags are only visible to mods

Also why did you mark that as valid it wasn't

DJ McMayhem

10K network?

Doorknob

23:23

Yep

DJ McMayhem

Oh.

I've never seen a chat flag before so I didn't know what to do.

Was that not valid? Is there a policy on language in chat?

mınxomaτ

@ChrisJester-Young That website is terrible. Even after signing in, I get annoyed with constant chat and reminder popups.

Doorknob

@DJMcMayhem There isn't

Chris Jester-Young

@mınxomaτ Thanks for the feedback. I'll pass that on to Wiselike. :-)

DJ McMayhem

So you're saying swearing is fucking cool?

Chris Jester-Young

23:25

@DJMcMayhem Within the constraints of our Be Nice policy, yes.

Quill

did I miss flags, oh, what a shame

aditsu

90% of the time, when I click on blue flags, they're already gone

Doorknob

Yeah, because the chat flag system is utterly broken

Quill

yes

LockOpeners

What up golfers

mınxomaτ

23:27

@ChrisJester-Young Now the settings dialog is stuck over every page I navigate to. It doesn't have a close button and clicking out of focus doesn't close it either :D

DJ McMayhem

So apparently I just recently broke 10K. Yay! That makes me really happy!

Chris Jester-Young

@mınxomaτ Wow. Uh, um. Lemme let them know about that too. :-)

LockOpeners

I'm at a humble 806

aditsu

@ChrisJester-Young just ask them to shut it down :p

Doorknob

@LockOpeners wat^glfrz saved 6 bytes

@DJMcMayhem Congrats! :D

mınxomaτ

23:28

@aditsu wow rood

Chris Jester-Young

@aditsu :-O

LockOpeners

@Doorknob hm?

oops replied to the wrong message

Doorknob

@LockOpeners I golfed down your message. :P

LockOpeners

lol

DJ McMayhem

Glf=DEAL

(golf is a big deal)

LockOpeners

23:29

So for the primaries

should I vote only 1 person

or 4 people

Chris Jester-Young

@LockOpeners As many as you have an opinion about.

LockOpeners

Alright

El'endia Starman

Vote up people you think would be good mods, vote down people you think would be bad mods, don't vote if you don't care or don't really have an opinion.

LockOpeners

Alright

DJ McMayhem

FWIW I voted 7 times.

LockOpeners

23:31

I voted up 4 people, no vote downs cause I don't really have any negative opinions about any of the candidates

aditsu

as long as you vote for the right people, it's fine ^___^

LockOpeners

lol

mınxomaτ

@ChrisJester-Young Is there a place where one can follow your cause (like a website or twitter doodad)?

Voting is broken on the majority of SE.

DJ McMayhem

@QPaysTaxes PPCG doles out more rep than most sites.

That's one of the things I like about this site. The average good challenge easily hits 20.

That's actually probably what got me hooked on this site to begin with.

Chris Jester-Young

@mınxomaτ I should set up a one-page website, for people to sign up. Lemme get back to you on that. I also have a Slack instance that I'm inviting people to soon.

mınxomaτ

23:35

@ChrisJester-Young Keep me updated ([email protected]) ;)

Quill

get people to put their email into a google forms page

much easier

wat, the aim isn't to phish people

El'endia Starman

@ChrisJester-Young What language(s) are you using?

Doorknob

xkcd.com/792 <that'sabigonebox>

Dennis

> that's one big box

Doorknob

@QPaysTaxes ... I knew that >_<

Quill

23:39

@QPaysTaxes he was oneboxing it, but the image is massive

Chris Jester-Young

@mınxomaτ Thanks, I'll add you. :-)

Quill

> It'll be hilarious the first few times this happens.

the hover text wow

Chris Jester-Young

@El'endiaStarman What, for my product? Mostly ClojureScript, at this stage.

Doorknob

@QPaysTaxes That was sarcasm :P I just didn't see your link.

LockOpeners

@Doorknob lol

DJ McMayhem

23:41

Non golfy? I don't understand, what does that mean?

mınxomaτ

@ChrisJester-Young I'm probably most useful for infrastructural resources and industry contacts.

DJ McMayhem

I thought all code was golfy.

LockOpeners

lol

Chris Jester-Young

@mınxomaτ Much appreciated! :-)

DJ McMayhem

Well that sounds boring.

:P

LockOpeners

23:42

But if your code is hard to read that's just job security right there

DJ McMayhem

Oh cool! What's the language for/do?

Quill

@DJMcMayhem The sad part is that for some of you, this is real. I've seen your repos, I've seen the horrors.

LockOpeners

See:

se.rit.edu/~tabeec/RIT_441/Resources_files/…

Mars Ultor

@Quill Where?

DJ McMayhem

@Quill Are you referring to me? I don't think my repos are that bad...

mınxomaτ

23:43

@LockOpeners "Oh this legacy code is unreadable. Well, let's trash it and outsource to India" >:)

LockOpeners

If you haven't read the guide I linked you should

because it's great

it's old, but great

Chris Jester-Young

@aditsu @mınxomaτ @Dennis I just pinged the Wiselike CEO about it and he tells me they're going to disable the regwall for good soon. Just so you know.

Quill

@DJMcMayhem no, not you specifically, ppcg users

mınxomaτ

@ChrisJester-Young Yay.

LockOpeners

@QPaysTaxes check out the pdf

pretty good info

;p

Dennis

23:44

@ChrisJester-Young \o/

LockOpeners

/me shrug

Quill

@QPaysTaxes github.com/vihanb/PPCG-Design/blob/master/ppcg.user.js#L586

LockOpeners

oh

Quill

@MarsUltor ^^

LockOpeners

no actions

I wish the flood protection here would just queue up my message instead of telling me to retry in x seconds

El'endia Starman

23:46

@Quill Ha, you're complaining about regex? [scrolls sideways] ...oh my.

Mars Ultor

[l]? <- why D:

Doorknob

@QPaysTaxes ro da poi cusku ke'a bau la lojban cu simlu lo ka cizra

Downgoat

@Quill that line is beautiful, it parses almost every answer header in just one line :^)

Quill

@El'endiaStarman If a codebase I'm working on requires regex, I take a long hard look at my identity and wonder whether it's really worth using regex

LockOpeners

I haven't done lojban in a while

Downgoat

23:47

@MarsUltor just in case I ever need to add more things to that

Doorknob

@QPaysTaxes roughly: Everything said in Lojban sounds cryptic.

LockOpeners

so I'll assume the same

Downgoat

22 hours ago, by Downgoat

regex is bad though

Mars Ultor

@Quill Yes it is, it's almost always faster.

@Quill Except for using it for things it shouldn't be used for

Quill

@QPaysTaxes Apparently ANTLR isn't too bad, but I wouldn't know. The regulars here would, most of them have written a few languages

Mars Ultor

23:48

@Quill s/RL/LR/

Doorknob

@QPaysTaxes What are you doing with such long variable names? :P

Quill

@MarsUltor s/for things it shouldn't be used for/at all/

Mars Ultor

@Downgoat But you can make the entire userscript one line

Downgoat

@QPaysTaxes Welcome to Programming Puzzles and Code Golf! This website is tagged code-golf so you need to make your code as short as possible, you can start by removing all that horrible whitespace and making all variable named 1-char long.

mınxomaτ

> never head

Downgoat

23:50

@MarsUltor true

Quill

@QPaysTaxes @Doorknob and I have that on a tshirt :D

Doorknob

@QPaysTaxes I have a shirt with that on it :D

Downgoat

brb golfing...

Doorknob

@Quill ninja'd

Mars Ultor

@Downgoat Unless you need more than 26.

Quill

23:51

the emoticon and everything

perfect ninja

Doorknob

@Quill not perfect

Mars Ultor

@Downgoat Make a branch that has been run through Closure

Downgoat

@MarsUltor JavaScript has unicode property names and I bet a lot of other languages do

Mars Ultor

Use that as the release version

LockOpeners

@Doorknob Cxio en esperanto sonas bela

Quill

23:51

@Downgoat var onecharlong

LockOpeners

oh oops

lost connection there

a bit out of context but that's okay

Mars Ultor

@Downgoat But then 2/3 ASCII letters = 1 unicode letter

Doorknob

@LockOpeners mi na'e spero jimpe

LockOpeners

@QPaysTaxes Everything in esperanto sounds beautiful

Quill

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A: Choose your own swag - the craziest contest idea ever! What were we thinking?

A unique title This is a story One about Stack Overflow Written in haiku 'Twas that fateful day Jeff and Joel stood in triumph As SO was born With Joel data gone, Stack Overflow started fresh Jon Skeet yet to join Proudly, Jeff and Joel began to press the button to make the site live Someone...

LockOpeners

23:52

I once was able to understand and produce some lojban

but I haven't done any for a couple years

so most is lost

Downgoat

9

A: Choose your own swag - the craziest contest idea ever! What were we thinking?

A Tale of Swag and a Goat1 1. I'm not actually a Goat, I'm a regular programmer. I just pretend to be a goat for fun, it's an inside joke, that I don't know where it started. It was been my dream, to win some SE swag, since I first started participating on SE. Once upon a time, there was a you...

Doorknob

@LockOpeners .uinai ma krinu

My Ham DJ

@Doorknob Here's a vim riddle for you.

LockOpeners

I just remember a few brivla

that's it

My Ham DJ

i<user inputs a string><esc>0f)%%

Doorknob

23:53

@Doorknob [unhappiness!] what is-a-justification?

My Ham DJ

Is the cursor guaranteed to stay in the same position?

Downgoat

@QPaysTaxes chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=ninja&room=240

My Ham DJ

What string messes it up?

Doorknob

@MyHamDJ hmmm...

Chris Jester-Young

@Doorknob Me too, but not from a haiku contest. :-P

LockOpeners

23:54

ninja ninja ninja

Mars Ultor

@Downgoat Damnit I knew you weren't a true goat

Chris Jester-Young

Back around the 3rd anniversary of SO, you could get that tshirt if you were in the top 3 pages of the leaderboard.

Downgoat

@MarsUltor I could be lying ¬_¬

Chris Jester-Young

Which I was, even though I'm now on more like page 6 today.

Quill

Page 75 master race

LockOpeners

23:54

I've always wanted to try to learn even a little bit of Ithkuil

it's like human language golf

Downgoat

@LockOpeners +10

El'endia Starman

@LockOpeners Isn't that the one that not even the creator really knows? :P

LockOpeners

But not even the creator knows it fluently

Downgoat

(is it's alphabet unicode?)

Doorknob

@MyHamDJ a[b]c

LockOpeners

23:55

nah

aditsu

@quartata did you withdraw?

LockOpeners

but it does have a lot of diacritics

Doorknob

@aditsu he did

LockOpeners

iirc

aditsu

oh, so that means all candidates get selected?

Doorknob

23:56

I'm working on a conlang right now actually. The alphabet's just pqȷgaeıyou with some diacritics.

@aditsu yeah, making the primaries extra pointless

hahaha

LockOpeners

Ithkuil has 45 consonants and 13 vowels

aditsu

wow

LockOpeners

phonetically

My Ham DJ

@Doorknob Dang it. That's right, but not the answer I wanted. I'm gonna rewrite the riddle to make it harder.

Easterly Irk

@QPaysTaxes hallo CR person!

Doorknob

23:57

@QPaysTaxes nope

 m n ɲ ŋ    p̂ q̂ ȷ̂ ĝ
pbtdcɟkgʔ  ṗ̶ṗq̶̇q̇ȷ̶̇ȷ̇ġ̶ġ ȯo
fvθðçʝxɣh  p̶̃p̃q̶̃q̃ȷ̶̃ȷ̃g̶̃g̃ õo
aeiɒou     aeıyou

left: IPA, right: alphabet

Easterly Irk

@QPaysTaxes threatens auto space to tab conversion

Doorknob

ah

Easterly Irk

CR flees in terror

LockOpeners

is that yours doorknob

Doorknob

yeah

aditsu

23:57

@Doorknob very zalgo

Quill

christ, first I couldn't read the code, now I can't read the chat

Easterly Irk

^^

LockOpeners

why so many diacritics

why not use some other letters :p

Easterly Irk

^^

LockOpeners

I get that conlangs are about more than what makes sense

Quill

23:58

make an emojilang

LockOpeners

but still

perhaps there is a backstory to your language

and diacritics are just what developed

Doorknob

@LockOpeners I dunno, I wanted to emphasize the patterns in place/manner of articulation and voicing

LockOpeners

So is one diacritic voicing etc.

labial vs labiodental

a diacritic for every phonological feature

mınxomaτ

It's 2016. SSL is free. Why are GitHub pages still served over HTTP >:(

LockOpeners

(Hayes 20xx)

Doorknob

23:59

@LockOpeners nah, I'm still a complete worldbuilding noob. This language isn't associated with anything else. I've been slowly developing an idea of a world I could build (scifi-esque) and a language, map, lore, etc. to go along with it in my spare time, but it's been moving very, very slowly.

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