The Nineteenth Byte

Geobits

04:00

o_O

Cyoce

Haha I just replied to myself

GamrCorps

29 secs ago, by Cyoce

@Cyoce does it work?

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. Someday I want to make an undeniable art contest to see what happens ;D

Geobits

I will remain ever watchful.

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies There will be at least two downvotes: one from Peter and one from me. ;)

Geobits

04:06

O_O

Anonymous

@Calvin'sHobbies Downvotes, close votes, and comments of "Y U DO DIS CALVIN"

Doorknob

Ok that was some of the worst Pyth code I've ever written -_-

Alex A.

@Doorknob pl0x 2 try it online link 4 pyf

Doorknob

Alex A.

thx u

Doorknob

04:10

haha, the output is both somewhat-sorted and not-at-all-sorted at the same time

Alex A.

Somewhat sorted + not at all sorted = not at all sorted

GamrCorps

New challenge: sort an array Doorknob-style

Alex A.

So put a key in it and turn?

GamrCorps

yep

Dennis

@AlexA. ಠ_ಠ

Doorknob

04:11

and that was the last that was heard of him

Alex A.

^^ I fully expect that to be the last thing Dennis says in here for the next few hours.

Hm, semininja

Dennis

alex-is-wrong

4

Alex A.

14 mins ago, by Alex A.

Oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

Anonymous

@Dennis Hey while you're here, wanna pull Seriously? No ethnic hackers, just combinatorics going suspiciously missing.

Dennis

hahaha

quartata

04:12

That's it you're all getting a $420 overused meme fine

Alex A.

@Mego Pull it. Seriously. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Dennis

@Mego Pulled. (Pulls without ethnic hackers are best pulls.)

Doorknob

@quartata That was actually a rather clever usage of alex-is-wrong, as opposed to some people who overuse it until it drops into so-bad-it's-worse territory...

Alex A.

@Doorknob Did you mean to ping Denny?

Doorknob

no

er at least I assumed quartata was responding to Dennis's message

Alex A.

04:15

I don't know what anything

Lynn

What are ethnic hackers and am I possibly being ethnic hacked right now???

quartata

@Doorknob 1) joke 2) it was about the seriously puns

Doorknob

oh

wait

Alex A.

@Lynn YES I'm HAcking your Computerr

Anonymous

@Lynn They exploit security holes like eval and input() in Python 2

Doorknob

04:16

there weren't any seriously puns until after your message

O_o

quartata confirmed time traveler

Lynn

@AlexA. ;A;

Alex A.

@Doorknob Seriously, there were no Seriously puns?

quartata

@Doorknob I know I predicted them

Doorknob

@AlexA. sigh

Alex A.

Oh man. Alex is wrong 420.

Dennis

04:16

in PPCG Code Snippet Chat Bot, 2 days ago, by quartata

@Dennis pull seriously unless you want to be hacked by chinese and russian hackers this time

quartata

@AlexA. dont make me up that to a $1337 fine

Alex A.

I still find 420 amusing because I'm still pretty new to memes and general internet shitposting culture.

I just learned about rickrolls several months ago.

Lynn

git pull origin the-other-one # it's got bells on

Alex A.

wet

GamrCorps

That moment when you don't believe the recent Rubik's challenge so you try it with a four move sequence and actually repeat it 372 times to see if it works

Geobits

04:20

:D

GamrCorps

it worked

my hand hurts

Zach Gates

What sequence

GamrCorps

I forget, I closed the interpreter, but it was like R'UL'F or something

Zach Gates

darn

Lynn

But 372 = 2^2 · 3 · 31 and |G| = 2^27 · 3^14 · 5^3 · 7^2 · 11

Lagrange says you messed up.

Geobits

04:23

Trivia: The reference code I put in the post ignores non-RLUDBF'2 characters in the input (and is case-insensitive), so you can use arbitrary words. For instance buttery yumyums has a cycle length of 48.

Alex A.

hahahahahaha

wtf are buttery yumyums

mınxomaτ

Btw., the Rubik's cube solving record for machines is broken again. There now is one that solves a physical cube in 0.9s or less: youtube.com/watch?v=gVF_XUccMuo

Geobits

Yumyums with extra butter.

Lynn

@mınxomaτ What a horrible video.

90% epic MLG dubstep, 10% the thing I want to see

Actually, make that 49.1/50 and 0.9/50

GamrCorps

^

lots of buildup for nothing

should of kept it simple

Geobits

04:26

WHEN WILL THE BASS DROP? (ft. Lil Jon)

►

Lynn

I bet all of that intro junk is very exciting if you made the thingy

But not if you just wanna see it do its thing?

mınxomaτ

@Lynn Someone else made that video. They put their "credits" at the end so you know who to blame.

Alex A.

Dropping a Bass while Dropping the Bass

►

trichoplax

I suppose if you went to all the trouble of building the robot you don't want to post just a 0.9s video...

Lynn

Oh, I wasn’t blaming you! Just complaining

Doorknob

04:28

Link to the actual thing without 34 seconds of waiting

Alex A.

I wasn't complaining, just silently blaming you

trichoplax

@mınxomaτ Oh it wasn't even by the makers? I'm less forgiving now :(

mınxomaτ

@Lynn Hah! I know. I just meant it wasn't the engineer's fault. :D

Calvin's Hobbies

@Geobits strawpoll.me/6730779

Geobits

#3 FTW

Alex A.

04:30

trichoplax

@Geobits But you didn't vote for it?

Alex A.

halp is this rite

Calvin's Hobbies

can't even tell the winner

trichoplax

1 has 2 now

Geobits

#3 is the winner. The option I chose is listed right on top :P

Lynn

04:31

Here is a deep, philosophical 5:30 AM question youtube.com/watch?v=HJ9L-UInBmc

Actually a couple

Calvin's Hobbies

@trichoplax the results are sorted by popularity, not original order (I thinks)

Alex A.

@Lynn Why are you awake at 5:30 AM? :O

It's 8:30 PM here.

Doorknob

It is 10:30 here

... speaking of which, I should sleep

Alex A.

You're silly

Lynn

I have nnnno idea. I should go to bed. Don't trust me with the whole "having a week off" thing.

trichoplax

04:32

@Calvin'sHobbies Ohhh... So the 3 that I voted for wasn't 3 when others voted? I'm the only one who voted for my 3...

PhiNotPi

Someone needs to make a challenge out of this: wou.edu/~girodm/library/benny.pdf

Alex A.

@Lynn What do you have a week off for?

trichoplax

It's only 4:30am here...

Alex A.

@Doorknob goognit

Zach Gates

@AlexA. That's about the time an American public schooler gets up :/

Alex A.

04:33

@trichoplax why are you up at 4:30

Lynn

@AlexA. I finished my exams, so there’s a small break until the next semester starts

Geobits

That's about the time a typical turtle wakes up :/

Alex A.

@ZachGates It's been so long since I've been in the American public school system that I've forgotten all about the timeframes. I do not envy you.

Lynn

This also is why I’m hella procrastinating and golfing and stuff

Alex A.

@Lynn Nice! How'd the exams go?

trichoplax

04:34

@AlexA. My sleeping pattern seems to have drifted the last few days.

Alex A.

@trichoplax Sounds like it. :D

Lynn

Really well! I thought my grades would be OK, but they were Very Very OK instead.

Alex A.

Congrats! \o/

trichoplax

@Geobits This one is up until 4:30 more often than gets up at 4:30 (or whatever the grammatical way of phrasing that is)

Lynn

\o/

trichoplax

04:35

I thought about going to sleep hours ago and then got reading

Lynn

Our Databases exam was pretty horrible.

4 hours of writing SQL queries on paper, and drawing nonsense enterprise diagrams on also paper, because ????.

Alex A.

D:

Lynn

And those 4 hours were not even enough X_X

Alex A.

@trichoplax What time do you have to get up?

trichoplax

7:00

Alex A.

04:37

You should sleep :O

trichoplax

@Lynn You have 4 hour exams??

Lynn

I think 4 hours is about as long as they’re allowed to put you in a stupid room doing a stupid exam. So of course the solution is to take your 5-hour exam and cram it into a 4-hour slot.

trichoplax

Sounds horrendous

Lynn

Pretty horrendous

Alex A.

@Lynn I've never understood the point of having students write code on paper. It's not realistic. In any practical environment you'd be able to execute queries or code or whatever to see how it works.

Zach Gates

04:38

@AlexA. I'm not sure how they can expect students to go to school for 7/8 hours (+2 hours for the time it takes to wake up, get ready, eat breakfast, leave school to get home, etc.). And then complete 2-6 hours of homework (average of about 3, daily). And then adding in the time it takes to eat dinner, play sports or what have you, you're left with 12 hours MAX.

trichoplax

@AlexA. I really should. Instead I'm eating blue cheese.

Zach Gates

@AlexA. Then we're expected to get 8-10 hours of sleep, leaving a MAX of 4 hours, which is how long it takes to come down off the caffeine and drugs that you've been taking to stay awake....

Lynn

@AlexA. I know right? :<

Alex A.

@trichoplax Gross

Geobits

@AlexA. It's funnier to see people shout SQL queries by hand, though.

Alex A.

04:39

SELECT!!!

Lynn

Yes, I shouted very hard on paper

Alex A.

Lowercase SQL keywords ftw

Geobits

^

Alex A.

@ZachGates Ah yes, it's all coming back to me now... :|

Lynn

Probably the ugliest thing I've seen is Visual Basic Case On Sql Keywords.

Alex A.

04:40

If you do that I'll borrow Doorknob's trout and show up outside of your window.

Zach Gates

@AlexA. That's why my GPA is a 0.3 ... I'm too busy doing productive things (learning the things I need for life and such)

Geobits

@ZachGates I hate to sound this way, but in many jobs you're no better off. If you later find a job that leaves you with more free time than school does, take it.

Eridan

I think it would be cool to base a challenge off of this, don't you think?

Lynn

We also wrote queries in this, which I’m quite sure nobody uses.

Alex A.

@ZachGates Wow, 0.3? O_O

Lynn

04:41

(Okay, maybe some people do?)

(What the heckkkk is Datalog)

(What the heck are GPAs)

Alex A.

Grade Point Average

Zach Gates

@AlexA. Currently, yeah. Overall it's like a 3. In the last 2/3 weeks of a quarter I always bring my grades up to around 80

Geobits

3.0 != 0.3 though :D

Alex A.

XD

Zach Gates

Give it two weeks :P

Geobits

04:42

I don't even know how you can sustain a 0.3 without getting kicked out.

quartata

@Lynn some shitty prolog derivative and grade point average respectively

Zach Gates

endGPA = currentGPA[::-1]

Eridan

If you need to calculate stuff for your grades and your school uses the service MyBackpack, you can use the site Gradezilla for cool calculations

Geobits

Am I the only one who thinks [::-1] is a really ugly way to do that?

Lynn

Oh, is GPA the thing where your grades are letters and then you turn those letters into numbers half the time, when you need to average them

Zach Gates

04:43

@Geobits It's public school, haha. The only things you can get kicked out for are weapons and drugs.

Alex A.

@quartata lel that didn't ping her because misspelling

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

Does anyone here have experience with Time Machine?

Alex A.

@ZachGates At least in Washington, I think if your GPA drops below some threshold, you get sent off to a vocational school.

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ A tiny, tiny bit

Geobits

@ZachGates I got suspended for playing with computers which caused me to lose credit for a semester. Not exactly kicked out, but enough to make me quit ;)

Zach Gates

@AlexA. Washington State or District of Colombia?

quartata

04:45

@Lynn basically

Alex A.

The former

Lynn

Our grades are plain old integers from 0 to 20 inclusive

Zach Gates

@Geobits I've been suspended countless times for tinkering around in their systems :P (are we both talking about high school?)

Alex A.

DROP TABLE Students;--

Lynn

It works well. You Americans should get on this whole “numbers” trend.

mınxomaτ

04:46

Her daughter is named Help I'm trapped in a driver's license factory.

Geobits

@ZachGates I only did the once, but at that point the options were 1) Stay longer or 2) Go get a GED and a job and say screw high school. Easy choice, really.

Zach Gates

@AlexA. Something like that

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

If anyone does have time machine experience, please help if you can:

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Q: Time Machine sparsebundle mounting problems

I have a Time Machine backup which contains a lot of valuable information and I'm trying to access it. What's the problem? I'm trying to mount it and nothing1 happens. Nothing happens? So I tried to reject the network disk containing the sparsebundle and I got an error saying: "The disk back...

Alex A.

@mınxomaτ This is precisely what I was thinking of :D

Zach Gates

@Geobits I'm only 16, so unfortunately I can't drop out :/ I would love to go get my GED and a job

Alex A.

04:47

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ You have a superscript 1 with reference for 1

quartata

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ just use rsync and forget time machine

Alex A.

I never use Time Machine

I just do full system backups

Bootable system images

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@quartata rsync?

quartata

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ rsync the unix utility

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

> rsync is a file transfer program capable of efficient remote update
via a fast differencing algorithm.

Geobits

04:49

@ZachGates Puts on adult hat - Well, there's no point in doing it just to do it (IMO). All other things equal, you should get a regular diploma.

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

that's one way to describe backuping...

Zach Gates

@Geobits Is there a difference between a diploma at 18 and a GED at 16

Alex A.

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ Like I said, just do full bootable backups to an external drive.

quartata

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ it's old deal with the weird man page phrasing

Geobits

@ZachGates Until you get into college or have a few years work experience, yes. It's harder to get your first foot (most places) in with a GED.

Alex A.

04:50

@ZachGates A GED isn't the same as a high school diploma

Lynn

Zach is 16?!

Alex A.

Yes

Zach Gates

@Lynn Yeah

quartata

anyways once you figure out rsync you'll literally not want anything else

it does so many things

Geobits

The older you get the less it will matter, but yes, it does at first.

Lynn

04:51

Hah, I would've guessed way older. It's the beard!

Zach Gates

@Lynn I usually get something around 22 :P

Geobits

This reminds me, though... I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how to convince my kid he needs to be locked in school for eight hours a day as the years go on.

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

Realizes I have a shit ton of work to do at 9:00... Continues to waste time on PPCG

Alex A.

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ Story of my life

Lynn

That is exactly what I would've estimated

Alex A.

04:53

How old are you, @Lynn?

Lynn

I'm 20. People think I look younger, though

Geobits

Probably the avatar :P

Alex A.

@Geobits School can be fun! He seems like a naturally curious and intelligent little fellow. As long as he remains intellectually stimulated, I think he'll do great.

@Geobits HAH

Lynn

(I was, until like a month ago, 19. Rip my teenagerness)

Hahaha~

Alex A.

Happy belated birthday! Welcome to your twenties.

Geobits

04:55

@AlexA. The problem is mainly that he's bored to tears in math/english/science classes. I do a decent job teaching him things long before the schools get around to it.

Alex A.

@Geobits Can you get him into a more advanced school?

Geobits

$$$ :(

Alex A.

Yeah, I was just about to say it might be prohibitively expensive

Geobits

Any of the "good" schools around here are.

Alex A.

Nice in theory :/

Calvin's Hobbies

04:56

Can someone post a plain link

Zach Gates

@Geobits What age? (if i may ask)

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies google.org

trichoplax

code (ignore this - just testing code formatting as it doesn't seem to be working in comments)

Geobits

He's only 9. I can see it being a real challenge later on.

quartata

@Geobits idk if this is a thing where you live but here if you're in high school you can concurrently enroll in a community college

Lynn

04:56

wow.horse

Zach Gates

@Lynn most recent with a beard and most recent without a beard

Alex A.

@quartata ...not while you're 9

Zach Gates

^

Geobits

@Lynn I really wanted that to be an actual page :(

quartata

Obviously I meant later

Alex A.

04:58

That's what I did, actually. I spent my last two years of high school in community college instead and got a high school diploma and an associate's degree at the same time.

Calvin's Hobbies

Mobile links look OK to me Dennis

Alex A.

Highly recommend

@Calvin'sHobbies They fixed it

Calvin's Hobbies

Oh

quartata

@AlexA. same but I transferred instead

Dennis

@Calvin'sHobbies You're welcome. :P

Lynn

04:58

@Zach Wow, yeah, the beard is seriously like, 4-5 years difference :O

Dennis

8

A: New Mobile chat: link color and regular text color are too similar

The link color is supposed to be the same one as in the desktop version, but in the new mobile version it used the wrong LESS varible. Fixed now.

Alex A.

8

A: New Mobile chat: link color and regular text color are too similar

The link color is supposed to be the same one as in the desktop version, but in the new mobile version it used the wrong LESS varible. Fixed now.

Zach Gates

@AlexA. I'm going to finish my junior year (this year) and get the rest of my credits this summer at a community college

Alex A.

FUCK ninja

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Lynn

Speaking of mobile, is there like, an app I should be using

Alex A.

04:59

@ZachGates Nice! For a smart fellow such as yourself, I think you'll find community college courses much more enjoyable.

Geobits

@AlexA. I assume that's when you come out of nowhere?

Lynn

This web client is sorta bare-bones

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