The Nineteenth Byte

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00:09

@TanMath headdesk Someone thought whatever it was was offensive, so they chat-blocked (heh) you.

Also: Vitsy hates array manipulation.

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Vitsy, 40 bytes sigh My baby was not made to do array manipulation. Expects input through STDIN (something I never do) with a leading ". WX&WXl\[68*-1+m] ?68*-2*"C"-i*O? "B"O?X? This is getting golfed better real soon, people. I'm so sorry for its current length. Basically, I treat the input as a string, and then manipulate from there. Try it online!

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Example of a good use of W. ^

flawr

The Charleston Dance (1923 - 1928)

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Quill

i.imgur.com/NaUecfY.gifv

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@Quill These annoy me.

Idk why.

They just always have put me off. xD

flawr

Just (Tap) Dance - Vintage 1940's Jazz Lady Gaga Cover

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A ton of makeup but still a great voice:

Ariana Grande ft. Zedd "Break Free" Cover by Lara Johnston

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quartata

00:26

and then chat just kinda slowly, awkwardly died

Zgarb

@flawr I just posted my "Who are you" answer, and noticed that one of your challenges initially brought me to PPCG.

flawr

Really??? I thought you've been here way longer!

Which one then?=)

Zgarb

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Q: Redraw an image with just one closed curve

Inspired by vi.sualize.us Goal The input is a grayscale image and the output is a black and white image. The output image consists of just one closed curve (loop) that is not allowed to intersect with itself or touch itself. The width of the line shall be constant throughout the whole image. Th...

That was an awesome challenge.

PhiNotPi

Vasily Kalinnikov - Symphony No.2 in A-major (1897)

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flawr

@Zgarb Oh right, that was a fun one=)

I have a new graphical-ouptut challenge in preparation=)

FlagAsSpam

00:34

Introducing verbose mode:

flawr

I think those are just great because of the visual aspect

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A: Cheating a multiple choice test

Vitsy, 40 bytes sigh My baby was not made to do array manipulation. Expects input through STDIN (something I never do) with a leading ". WX&WXl\[68*-1+m] ?68*-2*"C"-i*O? "B"O?X? Explanation in the (soon available) verbose mode: 0: STDIN; remove top; make new stack; STDIN; remove top; push length of stack; repeat next instruction set top times; begin recursive area; push 6; push 8; multipl...

Zgarb

@flawr True, and they usually allow all kinds of different approaches.

flawr

I wasn't really aware of that meta thread you mentioned. Strangely only 9 people participated so far.

Zgarb

@flawr Your first sentence kind of answers the latter. ;)

flawr

00:40

his elevator pitch is great=)

Oh right, the pixel rearannging challenge. I'm still quite proud of my submission.

Got a lot of green internet points too=)

@PhiNotPi Great piece! I never heard of Kalinnikow before!

It does have some similarities to Gustav Holst's compositions!

And I just noticed that some of my most upvoted answers are just so darn lazy and low quality.

That was a cool challenge too:

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Q: Into how many pieces can you cut this string?

Consider a piece of string (as in "rope", not as in "a bunch of characters"), which is folded back and forth on the real line. We can describe the shape of the string with a list of points it passes through (in order). For simplicity, we'll assume all of those points are integers. Take as an ex...

code-golf number array-manipulation counting

quartata

My wife can't stand XNORing — gnibbler ♦ Jan 14 '15 at 23:12

gnibbler came out of retirement for a terrible pun

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flawr

One of my most stupid answers is one of my most upvoted answers.

Alex A.

@quartata That was posted over a year ago now

quartata

I finally beat the scorpion pepper

@AlexA. yeah I know

Alex A.

00:56

@quartata AFT

quartata

It's hard...

Alex A.

For some reason I didn't realize at first that you're supposed to click in the middle. I just clicked wherever and lost a lot.

quartata

lol

SuperJedi224

Hi

quintopia

@quartata that took a while

PhiNotPi

01:11

IMO, the scoville game was pretty easy.

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Scoville game?

Oh, google.

I don't get that. :c

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Q: Proposal of new measure for "byte count" in code golf

Byte count is the default winning criterion in code golf. Counting bytes (as opposed to characters) is reasonable, because a language that uses more characters needs more bytes to define them. Consider the last sentence "negating both sides": a language that uses less characters needs less bytes...

discussion code-golf

El'endia Starman

01:39

@NewMetaPosts I am now contemplating using this scoring criteria for future code-golf challenges that I post. It levels the playing field rather nicely.

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@El'endiaStarman Except that AppleScript uses most (if not all) of the ASCII chars and really won't get a benefit from this.

Although Vitsy will get a huge advantage.

Alex A.

I would upvote this, but it implies that challenges are more of competitions between languages, when we have been putting forth a lot of effort to emphasize that they are competitions within languages primarily. — Mego 1 min ago

I think "leveling the playing field" is nice in theory, but really Java will never be able to compete with Jelly, and we shouldn't expect it to.

(as an example)

quintopia

if we really wanted a level playing field, we'd just say "you must use language x for this challenge", but that is too alienating.

Alex A.

The challenge would get downvoted into the firy depths of hell

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@quintopia challenge mentions Java and I use Vitsy, calling it a "functional library"

Hey, I used Java. >.>

Alex A.

01:44

ಠ_ಠ

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@Mego While that is true, there are inherent disadvantages in code size to using one language over another (i.e. bf vs. Pyth). — FlagAsSpam 1 min ago

El'endia Starman

Using byte-digits would put languages like Minkolang, Pyth, and CJam more on even footing with languages like Seriously, APL, and Jelly.

Quill

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@El'endiaStarman Yeah - Vitsy only uses 50 ASCII chars.

LegionMammal978

It's funny

I get my best challenge ideas when I'm about to fall asleep

El'endia Starman

01:50

Keep a pad of paper and a pencil by your bed.

quintopia

@El'endiaStarman You don't need any encoding to put Pyth and CJam on even footing with Seriously. They are already more concise on a regular basis.

El'endia Starman

@quintopia Seriously's not done yet.

quintopia

@El'endiaStarman have you tried using it?

El'endia Starman

No. Did Mego finish assigning commands to characters?

quintopia

No, but that is irrelevant. There are inherent weaknesses that will not be solved for as long as it is called Seriously, which is to say, until it is completely overhauled. In particular, it will never be competitive with Pyth

the one thing it was competitive in was quine challenges, due to its quining built-in, but now that all quine challenges forbid quining built-ins, it once again cannot compete in inter-language competition

(also development on it appears to have greatly slowed)

aditsu

02:05

@quintopia hi :p

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A: Who are you? Why are you here? And more introspection

Why am I here? I'm here for a multitude of reasons. I'm here because, well, I enjoy getting challenges on a daily feed that I can stretch my mind with. I love getting to know new things about programming (and even programmatic thought) on a daily basis. And I honestly am also here because the co...

Also, tumbleweed:

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Q: Should we consider the starting mechanism for Minecraft programs?

Time to add to the list of Minecraft Meta Questions! So, my question is fairly basic. When we run programs in other langs through the command line, we don't count anything but their flags. For example, take Java. java B.java [arguments] We wouldn't count this bit to run the program. We would c...

discussion policy scoring

> I don't need to [make an elevator pitch]. Everyone in the universe is obviously eventually drawn to PPCG anyway.

Also, thoughts?:

Quill

nice

Calvin's Hobbies

Jitsy?

Alex A.

JIT compiled Vitsy

Dennis

@TanMath You called another user crazy, dumb and stupid, so you got suspended for posting inappropriate content. Why are you so surprised about this?

FlagAsSpam

02:17

I feel like this approaches other aspects of my life as well.

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Q: Build a 4-vertex Connectivity Tester using NAND gates

Build a NAND-gate circuit that, on input [ 0e1 , 0e2 , 1e2 , 0e3 , 1e3 , 2e3 ] , outputs True or False according to whether the simple graph represented by the input is or isn't connected, respectively. Correctness is equivalent to If less than 3 inputs are True then output False....

graphs atomic-code-golf logic-gates

RikerW

@Dennis Where?

quintopia

@aditsu wb

Dennis

@RikerW I cannot discuss this publicly unless TanMath wants to.

RikerW

02:32

Okay.

El'endia Starman

(And for what it's worth, I would probably advise TanMath not to.)

mınxomaτ

Well, he asked 5 times in a row in chat for an explanation for his blocking(?). What is not public about that.

El'endia Starman

@mınxomaτ What prompted the block.

Dennis

And I answered that question.

El'endia Starman

Generally, yes.

PhiNotPi

02:52

There has been some pretty substantial editing on that NAND gate challenge.

Thomas Kwa

/me bows

RikerW

Wat?

NVM.

Nice edits.

Has anybody else seen the extra spicy mode on today's google doodle?

Thomas Kwa

I haven't.

Alex A.

03:18

This doesn't even have to be solved by code, does it?

Thomas Kwa

@AlexA. It's a logic circuit problem.

The solution should be a circuit made of NAND gates.

Alex A.

If it doesn't require code, it isn't on topic here.

Thomas Kwa

Logic circuits are basically code.

We've had challenges in, what's it called

Manufactoria

I think logic gates are just as much code as that is.

Alex A.

The most recent Manufactoria challenge was posted almost 2 years ago. The site standards have tightened significantly since then.

Thomas Kwa

Plus there are all of these old challenges.

They feel on topic to me.

What is code?

It's just instructions to some sort of interpreter/compiler.

Logic circuits are the purest form of that.

PhiNotPi

03:42

Does any language have a do {} while () {} loop?

Meaning, both {}s are executed each cycle of the loop, but the condition checking is done somewhere in the middle.

Alex A.

Why would that exist?

PhiNotPi

I could then do something like do{takeinput}while(input != valid){print "ur input is bad"}

Anyways, I think it should exist. I have been looking for an excuse to make a new language.

Alex A.

Implemented in Perl written in Notepad, I assume

PhiNotPi

and which also compiles to JVM

Alex A.

You're going to use Perl to convert code to JVM bytecode?

Godspeed

PhiNotPi

03:49

You said it, not me.

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Q: Make a Quasi-Quine

The goal of this challenge is to write a program that outputs a program which in turn outputs a program, etc. However, unlike a regular quine, each outputted program must be the same length as the program that produced it, but must be different. Rules The output must not be the same as the pr...

quine

PhiNotPi

One time I made a language in which IF and WHILE statements could overlap like [{]}

Doorknob

@AlexA. You say "use Perl" as if there's something wrong with that... :P

Alex A.

There is: the "use Perl" part.

PhiNotPi

I admit that [{]} would have little practical value, but do{}while(){} totally would.

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

03:56

Can someone view my sandbox post? I think it's ready to post but it's my first test-battery, so I want to make sure I got everything right

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

What's the Language? code-challenge test-battery Recently, the PPCG design leaderboard has been having some trouble parsing answer headers. In this challenge you'll be taking your own shot at parsing answer headers. Example Test Cases These are possible inputs, just so you can get the ide...

Doorknob

@AlexA. ಠ¯ಠ

Optimizer

rolling in the deep?

Alex A.

Rickrolling in the deep

Optimizer

wow, imagining the song in adele's voice!

Dennis

@AlexA. ಠ_ಠ

Optimizer

04:02

Never gonna give you up!

(rhyme like "Reaching a fever pitch" part)

ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ

@NewMainPosts I was gonna submit ⟮ɕṡ+ᶈ[2-2]ē/\d+⌿,↪⧺$ with a score of Infinity, but I was too late.

Doorknob

@AlexA. On your stance towards Perl:

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Dennis

This is hilarious!

Alex A.

...what

Optimizer

lololol

Alex A.

04:11

@Doorknob I could watch this for hours

Optimizer

how did u make it?

Alex A.

That's some hot trout slappin'

Optimizer

css animations?

@AlexA. as in the fish is hot or is it arousing for you ?

Doorknob

@Optimizer jsfiddle.net/KeyboardFire/cp6p4Ln5/1

Optimizer

ninja'd

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04:12

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Q: What constitutes programming for the purposes of this site?

Accord to our Help Center (emphasis mine), Programming Puzzles & Code Golf is for programming contests and challenges. Sounds simple enough, and 99 times out of 100 it is. But there are certain challenges which don't really require writing code, at least in the most traditional sense. Here ...

discussion asking-questions questions scope

Cyoce

PlatyPar has become a mess. I'm writing an interpreter for it. And it's going to run on the same site as detour. I'm making a framework thing, so all I have to do to add a language is define a JS file with a run, update, and display method and import it to the interpreter page

PhiNotPi

I just wrote the most glorious Tic-Tac-Toe program.

Alex A.

Does it feed you Tic-Tacs while you play it?

PhiNotPi

It was CompSci assignment to write a program that plays plays against the user. (CPU plays randomly, because they didn't want to bother us with recursive stuff)

And I was like... what's an easy way to check for wins?

Cyoce

@AlexA. silly alex. It feeds you toes

Doorknob

04:20

@PhiNotPi Too bad it wasn't checkers

PhiNotPi

I could just chain a bunch of IFs together, but that's boring....

So I came up with this...

Alex A.

IFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIF

Cyoce

(IF)

PhiNotPi

	// all of that weird prime multiplication above allows for this condensed checkWin method
	// The following table is important
	// prime
	// {2,3,5,7,11,13,17,19,23,29,31,37,41,43,47,53,59,61}
	// player
	//  0 0 0 0 0  0  0  0  0  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1
	// row
	//  0 0 0 1 1  1  2  2  2  0  0  0  1  1  1  2  2  2
	// column
	//  0 1 2 0 1  2  0  1  2  0  1  2  0  1  2  0  1  2
	// number
	//  1 2 3 4 5  6  7  8  9  10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
	// For example, 935 = 5*11*17, corresponding to three Xs in the bottom-left to top-right diagonal

Doorknob

what O___O

Alex A.

04:22

@PhiNotPi s/\t/ /

PhiNotPi

@AlexA. I blame my editor default settings I haven't fixed.

Doorknob

You mean you weren't using Notepad? :O :O :O

Alex A.

^

I don't think you actually can write Java in Notepad.

I think it just... doesn't work.

Doorknob

Why not?

PhiNotPi

Notepad = Perl
Eclipse = Java

A worse language requires a better editor to cancel out.

Doorknob

04:24

@PhiNotPi TIL Notepad and Perl are literally the same thing

Alex A.

TIAK Eclipse and Java are literally the same thing

Ampora

@ the one other person who voted for my challenge in Best of PPCG 2015, thanks fam

Alex A.

C# people: If x is a float, say 1.5, what happens when you cast it to an int? That is, what does (int)x give you?

Dennis

I don't see sharp, but it should give 1.

Alex A.

Okay, that's what I thought

thxbb

Dennis

04:37

Of all PPCG memes, this is the one that annoys me the most:

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A: The Many Memes of PPCG

Meme: Crossed out 44 is still regular 44 ;( Less common is when a four-byte solution is reduced to a three-byte solution, at which point the meme becomes “Crossed out 4 is still regular 4…” Originator: Optimizer / Doorknob Cultural Height: Started Mar 2015, height Oct 2015 - Background: This...

Alex A.

Really?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

hi

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Parse an "Efficient" Encoding Let us define a fictitious encoding "ENCWID", that follows this general form: there are three bits that denote the length of the following character, for each character. This looks something like this: WWWN..N ^^^^--- the actual character ^^^------- width bits; ...

kthxbai

Doorknob

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ The feed bots exist for a reason

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Dennis

^

@AlexA. Yes. Not long ago, I searched for combining Unicode characters, just to avoid writing 44 and getting that comment. Finding the characters took me longer than the rest of the revision. :P

Alex A.

@Doorknob Yeah, their purpose is to post things for the mods to edit into inane comments.

Dennis

04:40

I don't have a good reason for this. It just does.

Alex A.

Huh. Well, remind me not to point it out should you ever need to cross out 44...

Ampora

44=101100_2, problem solved

Dennis

4̷4̷

Jan 19 at 14:45, by Dennis

Crossed out 44 doesn't look at all like regular 44. ;)

Alex A.

hah

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Parse an "Efficient" Encoding Let us define a fictitious encoding "ENCWID", that follows this general form: there are three bits that denote the length of the following character, for each character. This looks something like this: WWWN..N ^^^^--- the actual character ^^^------- width bits; ...

Ampora

04:43

@Dennis If you want to avoid having to cross out 44, simply don't write code that's 44 bytes in the first place!

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Dennis

Leaving out a step in the score history... I'm not sure if I could.

Ampora

Your code should have just been golfed to 43 in the first place

RikerW

^

:P

Dennis

Finding that 44 -> 42 improvement took 9 hours...

RikerW

Okay, then find a 42 -> 1

Ampora

04:48

I feel like there's a relevant quote from 1984 I'm forgetting

Dennis

Not surprising. It's been 32 years...

Ampora

The book a_a

Dennis

2 days ago, by Dennis

Books? Were books those things where swiping rearranges parts of the device?

Ampora

The e-book a_a_a

PhiNotPi

a_a_a_a_a

Dennis

04:51

(I should probably stop trolling at this point.)

Ampora

I feel like there's a relevant quote from some meta post on moderator guidelines regarding trolling I'm forgetting :P

Dennis

Dec 31 '15 at 2:10, by Dennis

Let me rephrase: Mods do not troll. Even if you do not understand their actions, they're just doing their jobs.

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

If I make a test-battery and then add more test cases, will that be considered bad?

because answers would have to recalculate their score

Alex A.

Yes

Dennis

That sounds like moving the goal posts.

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

04:57

there goes my api quota...

ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ

Is it possible to make a quine that is still valid when it is rearranged randomly?

(doesn't have to be quine)

PhiNotPi

Along the theme of "PhiNotPi has literally everything in the sandbox"

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Programming Puzzle or Code Golf? (A judging books by covers question) ^Might need a better title. code-challenge This question is based off the "Let's Judge Some Books By Their Covers" question. Browsing the site, I see that 1859 of our 2692 questions (69%) are tagged code-golf. My questi...

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ some languages have quine built-ins so yeah, I guess

Alex A.

lel

ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ Hmm...

Dennis

04:58

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ The problem isn't just recalculating the score, but that previously competitive approaches might become bad (or vice versa).

If it doesn't have to be a quine, what does valid mean?

ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ

@Dennis No I meant that the output just has to be valid.

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Dennis yeah, well my challenge is parsing answer headers and I want a diverse set of test cases. I'll add about 300-1000 cases then

Dennis

@ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ Sorry, I still don't get it. If ABC is a quine (and therefore prints ABC), what can BAC do?

Alex A.

In C#, if I have a function public int inc(int n){ n++; return n; } and I define int x = 1;, if I call inc(x) at some point, is the value of the variable x affected?

Dennis

No, int n is an integer, not a reference.

Alex A.

05:06

Does C# have references?

Dennis

Eh, you got me there.

ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ

@Dennis Anything that doesn't throw an error.

Dennis

I should probably stop answering C# questions.

Alex A.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I appreciate it nonetheless

Dennis

@ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ In that case, any language that doesn't have errors should make this trivial.

ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ

05:09

Hmm, that's true...

Oh well, just a thought.

It would have been cool to see an example in a nontrivial language.

(Ahem practical)

Dennis

@AlexA. My experiments indicate that a) I was right and b) your function needs to be static.

Disclaimer: I have no idea what I'm doing.

Thomas Kwa

@ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ PHP quines unless you tell it to parse.

Dennis

That doesn't count as a quine though.

Alex A.

@Dennis I'm reading someone else's code and it doesn't have static. Thanks for trying this out! I should have just done that rather than asking in here. <_<

Thomas Kwa

Oh, we're talking about true quines?

Dennis

05:16

That was my assumption.

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ is this answer supposed to have a score? I just see a comma

Alex A.

Can confirm, no score

ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ Fixed sorry

@ThomasKwa Nontrivial

Optimizer

05:33

lolol

あかんわ～これ、訳わからんくらいに、くそっオモロｗｗｗｗ https://vine.co/v/O2VEabYgMzz

Tweeted by tsubasa259 on January 19, 2016 at 12:43 PM

Cyoce

@ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ for me it just outputs 0

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

^

ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ

Huh, guess I fixed the bug.

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Q: What's the Language?

Recently, the PPCG design leaderboard has been having some trouble parsing answer headers. In this challenge you'll be taking your own shot at parsing answer headers. Example Test Cases These example inputs (NOT actual test cases), just so you can get the idea of how inputs might be like ...

code-challenge test-battery

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ I don't see the source code on github, is there any place it can be tested?

Cyoce

05:35

ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ It no longer works. I can give you the previous version to test.

codepen.io/molarmanful/pen/rxJmqx

It works in that version of the interpreter.

Cyoce

@ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ maybe you should make ಠ_ಠ use a special encoding. Make ಠ 1 byte.

ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ

I thought about that, but I've been working on other stuff.

I still haven't made ESMin's codepage...

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ Considering you're using LZString which returns all sorts of funky unicode characters, is that even possible?

ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ Hehe, no idea. Hopefully!

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Exploding Quines! code-golfquine You will be making a program/function of length n that: Blast zone: Creates a space of dimensions nxn to fill in. Ground zero: Puts the kth char at the center of the space, where k = (n+1)/2. Explosion: Fills the space (not including the center of that space...

Anyway, I must go now. Good night!

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

05:41

Night!

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PIZZA ON BAGELS IS A WEIRD IDEA WHO CAME UP WITH IT

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Cyoce

06:20

....

literally just posted

silly new sandboxed posts

Calvin's Hobbies

06:35

Bah, only one category nomination :(

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies I nominated you <3

Calvin's Hobbies

What are the prizes?

Alex A.

Fame and glory

Calvin's Hobbies

I already have those here

5

Alex A.

That's true

Well, if you win then you get cookies.

But no one else

Optimizer

06:42

@NewSandboxedPosts the same person who came up with pizzas on pizzas

Alex A.

Mind blown

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. I'd prefer pizza on bagels

Alex A.

I think New Sandboxed Posts would have something to say about that.

Calvin's Hobbies

(Are there other cs words that are consumable things like cookies? hash, salt..)

Optimizer

@AlexA. oh, big dosa series converting to pizza on bagel?

Calvin's Hobbies

06:45

For future punability

Optimizer

cs?

Calvin's Hobbies

computer science

Optimizer

hard disk

Alex A.

Crap shit

Calvin's Hobbies

umm

Alex A.

06:45

That's what CS stands for

Optimizer

with a silent s

Alex A.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@Optimizer ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Calvin's Hobbies

Oh, java of course

Optimizer

@AlexA. its true though

Alex A.

Could be a floppy too

Cyoce

06:46

@AlexA. I thought CS stood for Counter-Strike

Alex A.

Oh right

Optimizer

@AlexA. i think you didn't get the joke

bird brain

Alex A.

Pretty sure I did

It was not subtle

Optimizer

it was silent

Calvin's Hobbies

so thanks for helping me brainstorm. /s

Optimizer

06:50

hard disk helped?

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies It was pretty clear that it was sarcasm even without the /s. ;P

Calvin's Hobbies

Anyway, have any SEP's talked to us about graduation at all? (Aside from that one tiny message on Alex's meta post)

Alex A.

"I don't know."

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

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Q: What does Code Golf's progress look like right now?

I'm Grace Note, a Community Manager at Stack Exchange. We have a process for how sites go about graduating or sticking around in Beta, but as noted in the comments there, Code Golf is one of two sites that we do not have periodic "Site Evaluations" where we compare questions against the rest of ...

discussion beta-status

Alex A.

But not really.

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ That was 2 years ago

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

06:53

unless you mean in the last two years

ninja'd

Calvin's Hobbies

I mean like since last week (I could just browse meta, but effort..)

Alex A.

Nothing on meta, no

I've chatted with them a little bit and they just reiterated Jon Ericson's point in his meta comment. We're making good progress, on track to graduate at some point.

Calvin's Hobbies

Do they think we hog up hnq?

Alex A.

No one has said anything to that effect that I know of. Though they could just be keeping their opinions to themselves.

;) :P ;P

Calvin's Hobbies

I figure they might have qualms about that since no other site (I think?) encourages so many answers. I can see how they would look down on our messing with their otherwise pristine q/a model.

Alex A.

07:04

Actually no, they seem largely supportive of us as part of their community. Or at least Jon Ericson does, idk.

I assume Grace Note does too but I haven't talked to him much.

Calvin's Hobbies

There should be more "contest" SE sites then, like baking!

Mail your submissions to the op...

Alex A.

brb proposing this site on Area 51

Calvin's Hobbies

07:16

Bake Exchange

or Steak Exchange

Alex A.

GetBaked.SE

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. were you serious?

Alex A.

As much as I'd love people to mail unsolicited baked goods to my house, no, I was not serious.

Calvin's Hobbies

Not even if you got sent the world's biggest dosa? (Except @Geobits poisoned it with anti-golfing powder to sabatoge your PPCG career.)

Alex A.

It's not like I was ever that good at golfing anyway :P

Calvin's Hobbies

07:34

@AlexA. yep

Alex A.

New Main Posts

08:01

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Q: How to solve this ACM ICPC frog puzzle

This is from ACM ICPC Japan. The question along with diagram is explained in link here. Can anyone help me with the solution logic? I know only the naive brute force approach which is not passing me here.

fastest-code programming-puzzle

zyabin101

Lost a lot of my rep to a deleted question. Having only chat for discussion :(

feature-request Required tags for main (to fight blatantly off topic questions)

TanMath

09:33

@Dennis I didn't! I said "I am wrong" and of course the meme...so I called myself Alex's sock.

The other stuff was not in relation to him.

Is anybody even here?

flawr

09:51

@AlexA. Good night=)

Sp3000

@randomra Hmm that's an interesting thought. At one point I was thinking of introducing templates so that postprocessing could be done (since the output options are pretty limited) but I never got around to figuring out how that'd work

TanMath

@Dennis I assume you are not done with your bash answer for the language challenge?

flawr

11:21

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New Sandboxed Posts

11:59

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Patch the image graphical-outputpopularity-contest In a popular image editing software there is a feature, that patches a selected area of an image, based on the information outside of that patch. And it does a quite good job, considering it is just a program. As a human, you can sometimes see ...

New Main Posts

13:59

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Q: Equivalence classes on the Transitive Hull of a Reflexive Relation

The goal of this challenge is to compute the set of equivalence classes over the transitive hull of a symmetric, reflexive relation. For those who don't know what that means, here is a brief introduction into the relevant terms: A relation ◊ is symmetric if a ◊ b ↔ b ◊ a. It is reflexive if each...

code-golf math graphs

New Main Posts

14:15

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Q: buildung a metronome

Introduction Some days ago I needed a metronome for something. I had none available so I downloaded an App from the Appstore. The app had a size of 71 MB!!! 71 MB for making tic-toc...?! So code-golf came into my mind and I was wondering if some of you guys could improve this. Challange Writ...

code-golf music

zyabin101

@NewMainPosts This challenge is a valid challenge, has objective winning criteria, is misspelled... Misspelled?!

This time I just linked my chat message to the challenge post in chat.

SuperJedi224

15:16

Hi everyone

PhiNotPi

hi

Doorknob

o/

zyabin101

@SuperJedi224 Hi!

SuperJedi224

I think drawception is finally fixed now

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Q: The autopilot mode

A helicopter starting at the top right corner is descending (in a 2D space, for the purpose of this question) towards the ground. It has an autopilot mode and a manual mode. The autopilot mode behaves as follows: If the space directly below is free, descend to it. Otherwise move a step left or...

code-golf path-finding

0

Q: Paint Starry Night, objectively, in 1kB of code

Below is a 386x320 png representation of van Gogh's Starry Night. Your goal is to reproduce this image as closely as possible, in no more than 1024 bytes of code. For the purposes of this challenge, the closeness of images is measured by the squared differences in RGB pixel values, as explaine...

code-challenge graphical-output

zyabin101

15:36

@SuperJedi224 Drawception?'

SuperJedi224

drawception.com

They were having some server issues the last couple of days

Also I just made an update to my minecraft challenge course

You can download what I have so far here

planetminecraft.com/project/challenge-course-3523715

zyabin101

@SuperJedi224 Too bad I only have Minecraft for Xbox 360... :(

Even then, I have Title Update Nine which equates to 1.1... ;(

SuperJedi224

:(

PhiNotPi

16:00

HashSet<HashMap<PortableItem, Ingredient>>

Whenever I have HashSets of HashMaps, I feel like I'm doing something wrong.

SuperJedi224

What are you using it for?

PhiNotPi

16:18

It's for some "game" I'm trying to make. I have a recipe with a list of "Ingredient"s and a bunch of "PortableItems" that can be used. Whether or not a certain Item matches the requirements of a specific Ingredient is rather complicated (determined by underlying properties). It's basically my attempt at the maximum bipartite matching problem.

zyabin101

@PhiNotPi How will you release it? Paid or free? Open or closed source? Which language?

SuperJedi224

Sounds like Java from the snippet he gave

PhiNotPi

16:39

It's written in Java

Price: I don't really believe I'll be able to make anything worth paying for, so probably free

Open or closed source: I don't anticipate writing anything that's worth keeping closed source, so probably open source

zyabin101

@SuperJedi224 Where is the snippet?

PhiNotPi

All of the above is conditional on the "game" actually doing anything interesting, which it currently can't.

SuperJedi224

41 mins ago, by PhiNotPi

HashSet<HashMap<PortableItem, Ingredient>>

quintopia

wharrgarbl?

quartata

@SuperJedi224 I don't see anything wrong with this

SuperJedi224

16:47

I was pointing out to @zyabin101 where the snippet was

quartata

Oh

Dennis

@TanMath That's not how it looked like. When you're constantly trying to be funny on somebody else's expense, it's bound to offend somebody eventually, one way or another.

Thomas Kwa

I may have a really cool solution to codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/69927/building-a-metronome

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