The Nineteenth Byte

Doorknob

00:00

"breath" and "breathe" too

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

XD does that happen often?

@Doorknob >______<

Isn't the one with an e british?

A breath, I breathe?

oh wait

I'm an idiot, move along.

Martin Büttner

@Doorknob the different vowel sounds distract from the th though

Doorknob

ah, right

Martin Büttner

Anyway, going to bed. Good arbitrary time of day, everyone.

ETHproductions

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ haha, I should change my username ;)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:03

@MartinBüttner Good night!

@ETHproductions you should X3

feersum

Plus, these people who can't tell the difference between different 'th' probably can't spell breath and breathe correctly.

El'endia Starman

@MartinBüttner Ahh, that makes sense. The distinction isn't as strong when you're saying it in your head. :P

Doorknob

I really like this pattern of new users posting good challenges

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feersum

How do we know it's not Calvin raising a sock army?

3

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Q: Remove digits, retaining greater number

Introduction This challenge consists in finding the greatest number removing y digits from the original number n which has x digits. Assuming x=4 y=2 n=5263, the possible numbers removing y=2 digits are: [52, 56, 53, 26, 23] So, the greater number is 56 which must be the output for this exam...

code-golf

El'endia Starman

00:10

Socks are easy to destroy. Just put them in the dryer.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

haha

undergroundmonorail

I took the SD card out of my raspi and forgot about it

I guess I'm just watching for this lab :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

"lab"?

Alex A.

@Doorknob I like that challenge but IMO the I/O is a little restrictive.

Doorknob

it's still way better than most new users' questions

Alex A.

00:16

True that

Doorknob

lots of them have been recently

Alex A.

Yeah

It's kind of weird

haha

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^^"

they should join chat I bet they are english majors

undergroundmonorail

@MartinBüttner youtu.be/3-4A5bXi2Dw

The whole video is good (all his videos are, especially the language ones) but the intro specifically is relevant

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ "lab" as opposed to "lecture"

Everyone brings their raspberry Pi and we do some hands on learning instead of being spoken at

I'm on mobile and can't figure out how to reply so I hope these pings are good enough :P

TanMath

00:33

@Rainbolt nope...

Doorknob

just got these in the mail! :D (cc @AlexA.)

Alex A.

\o/ \o/ \o/

orlp

I just ordered an OnePlus X

let's see how that goes

invite threads actually work \o/ reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/3qtbx1/…

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@undergroundmonorail oh, I see

@Doorknob \\\\\\o/////

:3

@Doorknob any particular reason?

Doorknob

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ it was a contest on meta.SE

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:41

Oh, nice.

I see you have a TI-BASIC :3

Doorknob

that would be my math homework in the background :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

XD I should probably start that

undergroundmonorail

@Doorknob did you guess the number of jellybeans? :o

Doorknob

@undergroundmonorail haha, no

undergroundmonorail

Okay good, I guessed almost twice as many as you

... They were coins

Doorknob

00:42

I'm really bad at guessing numbers of things so yours is probably more accurate

it was jellybeans last year iirc

undergroundmonorail

My rule of thumb for guessing numbers of items in a jar is "more than you think"

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@undergroundmonorail I guessed a power of two :P

I didn't want the tee

Doorknob

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ so did I

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

\o/

iirc it was 2^24

Doorknob

... I did not guess that

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:45

What did you guess?

Doorknob

256

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

oh

I guess I overestimated

Doorknob

hahahaha

undergroundmonorail

img.fark.net/images/cache/850/o/oP/…

Spot the problem

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

wtaf

orlp

00:46

@undergroundmonorail it has spikes

it's not supposed to have spikes

oh no wait

I'm retarded that's his tail

undergroundmonorail

Um

I think you're looking at a different picture than me

orlp

@undergroundmonorail you linked to a squirrel with two very prominently displayed testicles

click the link

undergroundmonorail

That is the image I tried to link to

And it's where the link goes to for me

feersum

He used his super-arm-scale power.

orlp

well

now it works normally

but that page returned this for me like a sec ago

nsfw

wait

it gives that in my normal browser

but the proper image when in incognito

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:51

weird

orlp

maybe I'm banned from fark.net?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

and please, remove that picture o_____o

orlp

although I never visited that nor do I know what it is

undergroundmonorail

I also don't know what that is I just googled for the picture

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

thank you

undergroundmonorail

00:53

And then I thought "maybe I should reupload it to imgur... naaah"

I wish I had done that

orlp

@undergroundmonorail what's the worst that can happen?

well, apparently that's squirrel cojones

undergroundmonorail

Anyway the problem with that image is that 20*16*10 is 3200

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

XD

orlp

@PhiNotPi you here?

how to handle rules at the edge of the automaton?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I type this by accident in my code: "asfd0...0fdsa".spit(0);

undergroundmonorail

00:56

pitoo clunk

Calvin's Hobbies

come draw: flockdraw.com/ge803u

orlp

@PhiNotPi never mind, just spotted the circular part

feersum

Is anyone trying automata voting?

undergroundmonorail

> flash

I'll come draw after my lab if anyone's still there

Calvin's Hobbies

Just looking for neat free no-login multiplayer online games and stuff

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:59

blog.stackoverflow.com/2011/07/…

undergroundmonorail

Tagpro is fun and doesn't require login

I used to play it competitively

I wasn't very good :P

trichoplax

@Calvin'sHobbies As pre-made KotH controllers for answers to access directly?

Calvin's Hobbies

No, just for fun

trichoplax

I was mostly joking... :)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I need a programmatic way in JavaScript to obtain the image file and title text of an XKCD image. Help? X_X

undergroundmonorail

01:05

I'm 99 percent sure xkcd has an API for that

trichoplax

Do you specifically need to access the image from the main page? Otherwise each comic has an image link to a separate page (I think)

undergroundmonorail

That returns json and everything

I might have dreamed it though

Calvin's Hobbies

xkcd.com/json.html

Alex A.

@Doorknob So what was the actual number? My guess was "a lot."

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Calvin'sHobbies o__o thanks!! I was going to hack it together

Doorknob

01:09

@AlexA. oh, I don't remember, I'd have to look it up :P

Alex A.

@Doorknob Any idea where the information lives?

undergroundmonorail

@Calvin'sHobbies i came and drew but i think everyone is gone

Calvin's Hobbies

I'm there

Yay, 3 people!

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Q: Find the capacity of 2D printed objects

In a fictional 2D world, a set of 2D printing instructions for an object can be represented by a list of integers as follows: 1 4 2 1 1 2 5 3 4 Each number represents the height of the object at that particular point. The above list translates to the following object when printed: # # ...

code-golf sequence array-manipulation

undergroundmonorail

01:25

everyone not in flockdraw

look what you're missing

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

XD

undergroundmonorail

BlockCoder1392

Wat

Calvin's Hobbies

@BlockCoder1392 Go to flockdraw.com/ge803u

Doorknob

I would but FLASH

@AlexA. uhh probably on a blog post somewhere

Alex A.

01:37

@Doorknob Ok

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

(ツ)¯\_(ツ) ¯\_○|￣(;´༎

*was afk

Calvin's Hobbies

You can save pics flockdraw.com/gallery/view/2121030

orlp

is there a simple way to generate a uniformly random three choice list such that there exists a strict plurality, without simply rejecting non-strict pluralities?

feersum

Just accept rejection!

orlp

@feersum btw your code man...

feersum

01:45

?

orlp

goto begin;

state s = rg() % S;

two big flaws :P

the first in style, the latter in uniformity

feersum

I'm happy to see someone was trolled by my goto :P

orlp

the latter is an actual error though :)

std::uniform_int_distribution<> ternary_dist(0, 2);

state s = ternary_dist(rg);

feersum

I know that function exists, but the gain of precision was not worth enough for me to type its name.

orlp

is 51/51/49 the only configuration without a strict plurality?

feersum

01:48

oops, now that's an error

Alex A.

@orlp I had no idea that was in STL

orlp

@feersum is it?

feersum

I thought the post said that 51/51/49 was the only configuration and believed it

orlp

I'm wondering

oh no of course not

52/52/151-104

x/x/151-2x

where 51 <= x <= 75

Calvin's Hobbies

Cyoce

01:54

um

Calvin's Hobbies

@Cyoce flockdraw.com/ge803u

trichoplax

@orlp That still seems like such a tiny proportion of the state space that rejection is probably as fast as you need for all practical purposes

Cyoce

what corner?

undergroundmonorail

bourgeois corner

Dennis

Am I seriously not going to get any rep notifications until I get the 500 rep from the bounty back? That's not at all annoying...

undergroundmonorail

02:04

i hope no one expects to me download zork for this

Calvin's Hobbies

Finally something not hideous

undergroundmonorail

@Calvin'sHobbies have you tried looking at the background

Doorknob

hahaha

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@undergroundmonorail Have you seen/played "House of Hell?"

Calvin's Hobbies

@undergroundmonorail It could be a starry sky!

undergroundmonorail

02:07

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ no

@Calvin'sHobbies have you ever been outside at night

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

oh

orlp

@trichoplax it was more out of interest

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Q: Solve the Halting Problem (apparently)

Your boss calls you up and say "solve the halting problem". You explain you can't. He says "yeah, well they used to say bumblebees would never fly, but those little buggers proved us all wrong." So know, you have to solve the halting problem. How? Fake it! Make a program that appears to solve t...

popularity-contest underhanded

Calvin's Hobbies

I left for a minute and now it's all blank :/

nevermind

Doorknob

I don't think your leaving effected that :P

RikerW

02:11

So how is the discord/skype going?

Doorknob

it's... not

RikerW

lol

What happened?

Doorknob

nobody's there :P

RikerW

I am...

:P

@Doorknob why are you always there when I look?

Doorknob

because I have a Firefox tab perpetually open to it

trichoplax

02:12

@orlp In that case, I'm interested too - let me know if you find a way :)

RikerW

@Doorknob lol

@Doorknob Why?

Doorknob

why not?

RikerW

Cause I regulary close chrome.

And does chrome/chomium run on debian?

Doorknob

yes of course

RikerW

Then why do you still use firefox?

Doorknob

02:16

primary browser is Chromium, but Discord hates Chromium apparently

RikerW

Chrom > Firefox > Safari > Solaris > Emacs

@Doorknob Oh, okay.

I think @GamrCorps also keeps a tab open..

@Doorknob how many levels are there in nethack?

Doorknob

"levels"?

RikerW

dungeon levels

Doorknob

depends

randomly generated

around 50 usually

plus the Planes

RikerW

cause this guy I am watching seems to be on lvl 25.

Just wondering, cause my best is 6. :P

Doorknob

02:20

usually ~50 in the main branch, but it varies

RikerW

Okay.

I keep falling in spike pits.

Doorknob

if you count the Mines, Soko, Ludios, Quest, etc., much more of course

RikerW

Like 10 deaths, 6 to spikes.

2 by kicking something weird.

@Doorknob wat?

Doorknob

@RikerW just spikes? You should maybe stop being low on health then :P

RikerW

I fell into like 3 in a row...

Was at 18 health I think.

Doorknob

02:21

(totally unrelated)

RikerW

That was for my most recent death.

@Doorknob rofl

Why would you name your kid that????

Sup @Maltysen?

Maltysen

hey

quartata

Nethack has 44 levels plus the planes, mines, castle and quest things. There is also Cloud Nine (lvl -9), Heaven (lvl -10) and Nowhere (lvl 0) which can only be accessed via teleportation.

RikerW

wow.

I have made it to exactly 6.

Doorknob

@quartata 44? not sure about that

I've had a 53 Sanctum before

RikerW

02:26

Plus, I actually fell through 3 and 4...

quartata

I could have sworn it was 44

Doorknob

it's RNG

undergroundmonorail

@whoever's typing in teal:

RikerW

Hey, I'm not dead!!!.

Oh, wait, I am...

Ghosts can type?

undergroundmonorail

spooky

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

02:28

@undergroundmonorail wtaf

Maltysen

@RikerW ghosts have a bluetooth interface

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

that's me

RikerW

@Maltysen Oh, okay.

ETHproductions

Random mini-challenge idea: what's coolest thing any language does when given its name as the source code?

Most infix or prefix language would have syntax errors, I bet, but there's got to be some good ones

quartata

@Doorknob ever played SLASH'EM?

Alex A.

02:33

@quartata No, he only plays Nethack

Doorknob

SLASH'EM is a variant of Nethack

and yes, I have, a total of once

it was during Junethack. I did not particularly enjoy it :P

quartata

Harder? Or just weird?

Doorknob

both?

very weird

ETHproductions

Pyth, CJam, Japt, all give syntax errors

Jolf prints 0, GolfScript does nothing

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. Doorknob only plays Nethack and its variants => PPCG is a Nethack variant ??

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Doorknob

02:35

one does not simply play PPCG

undergroundmonorail

doorknob mods ppcg

no fun allowed

ETHproductions

gs2 prints gs2

while GS2 does nothing

Retina also prints 0

undergroundmonorail

i wonder what GTB does

ETHproductions

GTB?

SuperJedi224

Hello

Alex A.

02:41

@Calvin'sHobbies That's the only logical conclusion

Calvin's Hobbies

@SuperJedi224 @ETHproductions come draw - flockdraw.com/ge803u

@AlexA. ^

ETHproductions

I just tried everything on tryitonline.net, nothing interesting :(

undergroundmonorail

@ETHproductions it's a language someone used to use on this site but they never provided a working interpreter so we downvoted all their posts after a while

ETHproductions

@Calvin's sorry, gtg

undergroundmonorail

it supposedly compiled to ti-basic but when they explained what the equivlent ti-basic code was it never actually worked lmao

quartata

02:42

@ETHproductions Retina prints 0 because it simply tries to match Retina to the input string. Try giving it an input of Retina

@undergroundmonorail that was Timtech

Maltysen

Do I want nethack x11, nethack lisp, or nethack console?

Doorknob

console

Maltysen

k

Doorknob

what is nethack-lisp O_o

J Atkin

I need a better title for this

SuperJedi224

02:47

I could probably use a name for my new language design

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I can help.

Maltysen

wait is there only two races?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

*are

J Atkin

@SuperJedi224 What is this? Another language?

Doorknob

@Maltysen certain roles can only be certain races

there are more than 2

SuperJedi224

02:49

@JAtkin Yes. I'm working on another new language.

Maltysen

oh

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@SuperJedi224 Story of my life.

Maltysen

what is rex?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Like, really.

hi @phi

J Atkin

Do you have a github link?

SuperJedi224

02:50

Not yet.

Maltysen

I'm so confused how do I play

quartata

@Maltysen you should play on NAO so we can help you

PhiNotPi

hi

SuperJedi224

Hello

Maltysen

so am I @ or f?

Doorknob

02:51

@

Maltysen

is rex like my pet?

Doorknob

f is feline (that would be your pet cat)

turn on hilite_pet if it's not on already

also color

also yeah, be on NAO

quartata

you really should read the nethack guidebook first

Doorknob

you really should read the wiki

quartata

nethack does not hold your hand

Doorknob

02:52

understatement .-.

quartata

it breaks it

Maltysen

its gonna break my hand? o_O

quartata

just to dispel any notions you might have: nethack is fun but it is also hard as shit. it makes take you hundreds of games to ascend.

Calvin's Hobbies

> it makes take

Doorknob

Saying that Nethack is complicated is like saying that a nuclear bomb is kind of explodey. The game still holds the title of poster child for The Dev Team Thinks Of Everything (Warning: TVTropes) — Shadur Nov 16 '12 at 11:22

this is still one of my favorite quotes from SE

(first sentence)

quartata

02:58

on mobile

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