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12:11
Pretty pattern!
@BlockCoder1392 You use Scratch?!?
9 messages moved from The 2nd Monitor
The pretty pattern was the timestamps on the messages.
LOL @Phrancis
12:20
sorry guys, wrong room
well shit @Phrancis
Can we have an RO or Mod move these back please?
I'd love to but I can't
@Phrancis You ruined my pretty pattern! :-(
Sorry :/
It's fine. Now I have someone to talk to! d:-D
12:23
lol
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Q: Analyse your Chair

wizzwizz4This challenge is based on Downgoat's Adjust your chair. Challenge You just adjusted your new chair! It fits you perfectly. However, the wheel is squeaky and you know the repair people will change the adjustment. Problem is, you don't have a ruler, so you'll have to write a program to measure i...

(。・ω・)ノ゙
is PPCG that lonely @wizzwizz4
BURN THE REGEX WITCH
just blame @Doorknob冰 for the empty room, his bad jokes probably scared everyone away :P
12:24
You have been visited by the Code Review fairies. We wish you a merry Christmas.
We do code reviewing on our site too!
We review people's code and comment on how it can be golfed better!
@wizzwizz4 All depends on your definition of "better" ;)
@Phrancis Golfing is writing small code. Better golfing is smaller code. That is all.
is minifying/uglifying code cheating (a la js)? :b
@DanPantry No, but we use more tricks than that!
12:28
That's what she said Yeah but golfed code is rarely readable...
But it isn't meant to be.
Who needs readable when you get internet points
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You can easily put in line breaks and comments anyway!
^insta-star
I'm willing to bet that star was from someone from 2nd and not here.
12:29
No idea what you're talking about @DanPantry
Would any of you fine people like to try some golfing?
Unfortunately I'm working today, so I can't.
For some values of "golfing" maybe?
For some values of "working".
12:33
@DanPantry what's the difference, anyways?
hi people
again
@wizzwizz4 yes]
@wizzwizz4 Above are links to our entire databases on those topics.
@BlockCoder1392 I have an interesting answer you might like using that language!
sure
(I use scratch/snap/blah blah blah scratch mods alot)\
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A: Make your language unusable

wizzwizz4Scratch The when [timer v] > (0) will run as soon as the code is initialised, which if you're in the editor is before you even start the code. The when I receive (join[][]) will cause an error to be thrown every time anything is broadcast, pausing code execution if you have Developer version of...

12:57
ok
@BlockCoder1392 Are you active on the Scratch community?
@SuperJedi224 Hi. Did I show you my latest question?
The "analyze your chair" one?
Yup. That one.
Have you created any new questions?
13:04
I posted my GoL pattern counting question a couple of days ago, and I also have two questions in the sandbox
@wizzwizz4 Kind of.
@BlockCoder1392 Could you give us a link?
Finally
Was trying to golf that
sure
^ link!
13:17
heya jedi!
@anOKsquirrel Hello
wassup?
Not much.
if it wasnt obvious im the one from scratch :p
Yes I know.
13:21
did I say? :p
You've said that before.
oh
Whoops haha
what's with the bots talking about butter?
gtg :P
@anOKsquirrel Mods try troll people by editing the bot messages.
Hello
again
13:24
@BlockCoder1392 Hi
@BlockCoder1392 Have you posted any challenges recently?
Can we have a link to them?
(i guess, not that recent)
13:25
If you put a link on its own in a comment, it makes it look awesome.
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Q: How long ago was this?

BlockCoder1392How long ago was this? The Rules Each submission must be a full program. The program must take input as two comma-separated dates in the form YYYY-MM-DD, and print the number of days that has passed since the second date to STDOUT as if today was the first date (if the second date would be in ...

(i knew)
Posted 16 days ago
Oh look I just got the silly christmas tree hat
And it's not even Christmas!
@wizzwizz4 eyyo
I don't think the dates on hats actually work.
I've got several hats on the wrong dates.
13:31
@wizzwizz4 it was me you just talked to on Scratch :P
@anOKsquirrel I noticed.
@wizzwizz4 It's wierd time zoney stuff
@wizzwizz4 figured. Hey, merry Christmas!
Eve
But it's not Christmas day where the servers are, is it?
no
It's all time zones
13:32
So...
It just goes through them so the whole world has a chance.
@wizzwizz4 Apparently, it's Christmas somewhere in the world
@Phrancis What messages?
The messages moved from there to here by mistake, @Dennis! ;-p
13:33
:)
Thanks @Dennis
@DanPantry Hello
It's not even 12/25 UTC!
13:43
@BlockCoder1392 Yeah, I know
What's 0.48 UTC?
dennis-home:~$ python3
Python 3.4.1 (default, May 23 2014, 17:48:28) [GCC] on linux
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> 12/25
0.48
Erm... How can you have fractions of... This is quite... erm... What are we even talking about?
I got mine at around 12:00 noon UTC, but by then it'd be 2:00AM christmas in the line islands of Kiribati
13:45
It's always Christmas in New Zealand.
Well, not always, but right now.
@BlockCoder1392 Exactly. Though I really don't quite understand why they do it that way.
I got mine at 10:43 noon UTC.
@Dennis I meant December 25, 2015 in the time zone called UTC.
@wizzwizz4 Noon?
@wizzwizz4 ... aka 12:43AM in UTC+14 (Line islands of kiribati)
13:47
@BlockCoder1392 Oh! I briefly considered it could be the 12th day of the 25th month, but that didn't make sense.
Why are we even discussing this again?
I think you'll find the correct calculation is 2.083 UTC ;-)
25/12, not 12/25
Perhaps 2.083333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333‌​333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333‌​333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333‌​333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333‌​33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333
> General discussion for codegolf.stackexchange.com, time zones and Christmas
@wizzwizz4 i think you missed a 3 or two.
13:49
@Dennis It is very related to codegolf.stackexchange.com, because I feel like creating a out of it.
@DanPantry I missed an infinite number of them.
@wizzwizz4 What's an infinite number of 3s between friends
@wizzwizz4 It's actually 2.0833333333333335.
@Dennis I prefer BigFloat.
Big rationals are better suited for this.
BigFloat will use up all your memory.
13:51
@wizzwizz4 BigFloat just makes me think of a large boat.
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@DanPantry A large boat won't float without BigFloat.
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@wizzwizz4 I guess only a small boat that fits in a moat will float. We shall call it a SmallFloat.
But I should not dote on boats and moats for I must go(at).
@DanPantry SmallFloat only supports one significant bit.
> > 25/12
<• 2.0833333333333335
What's with the weird dot?
13:53
new BigRational("25/12")
There
s a dot in my js console output
?
I screwed up.
whatsup with removed?
@Dennis ☺☻♥♦♣♠•◘○◙♂♀♪♫☼►◄↕‼¶§▬↨↑↓→←∟↔▲▼⌂ÇüéâäàåçêëèïîìÄÅÉæÆôöòûùÿÖÜø£Ø▬ƒáíóúñѪº¿®¬½¼¡«»‌​░▒▓│┤ÁÂÀ©╣║╗╝¢┤┐└┴┬├─┼ãÃ╚╔╩╦╠═╬¤ðÐÊËÈıÍÎÏ┘┌█▄¦Ì▀ÓßÔÒõÕµþÞÚÛÙýݯ´­±‗¾¶§÷¸°¨·¹³²■
There's all the IBM/DOS "weird characters", all in order and hand-typed.
That looks like CP437.
13:58
It is!
Here's mine
251 ¹
252 ³
253 ²
@Dennis windows alt codes ftw
They were all hand-typed. I started 3 seconds after you posted your comment, and that's how long it took me.
14:00
> windows alt codes for the windows
1-31, 127-255
@wizzwizz4 Right, I forgot how Windows pseudo-randomly chooses a code page for your Alt codes.
It isn't pseudo-random!
Pretty much.
If you do 1, 2 or 3 digit codes, it uses the old codepage.
14:01
☺☻♥♦♣♠•◘○◙♂♀♪♫☼►◄↕‼¶§▬↨↑↓→←∟↔▲▼ (printable ascii here) ⌂ÇüéâäàåçêëèïîìÄÅÉæÆôöòûùÿÖÜ¢£¥₧ƒáíó
If you do 4 or higher, it uses Unicode.
@wizzwizz4 Ahem.
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A: Why does [ALT+224] return Ó instead of alpha?

DennisAs you have already discovered, the characters resulting from character codes between 0 and 255 depend entirely on the encoding that is used. Windows doesn't use neither extended ASCII nor ANSI (usually Windows-1252); it actually depends on the application. For example, Alt + (2, 2, 4) gives on...

úªº¿⌐¬½¼¡«»░▒▓│┤╡╢╖╕╣║╗╝╜╛┐└┴┬├├┼╞╟╚
@Dennis I saw that 3 years ago!
@Dennis You wrote that
14:04
I'm aware of that.
Correction: if you do 1, 2 or 3 digit codes it uses the DOS codepage. Any more digits in the code and it does an application-specific codepage.
What do you get for alt-1234
I get ╥
Ê
I'm using IE though ;p
@wizzwizz4 Why.
14:06
╥ in FF, too
Yeah. Firefox is good.
╥ in edge, too
╥ in chrome, too
Chrome is just suckysuckysuck.
Chrome sucks.
╥ in palemoon, too
I am in the UK, and have a different codepage to you. And a different keyboard layout.
And Edge is just IE12+
14:09
╥ in waterfox, too
╥ in notepad, too
╥ in notepad++, too
I have a different keyboard layout. It's not the program!
In all of those things (except Chrome, which I don't have installed) I get Ê.
Is...
Is @Dennis wrong?
@wizzwizz4 You're wronger.
Then who's right?
Microsoft told me the stuff about 1, 2 and 3 length codes.
So I know that's meant to be the way it works.
But I've no clue about longer codes.
I was replying to I'm using IE. That's as wrong as anyone can be.
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@Dennis Read my bio. Then and only then may you criticize me about Internet Explorer.
I have used this browser since Windows 98.
I have used this browser when Explorer was deleting all my files due to a corrupt driver.
I have used this browser since I have used the internet.
And I am still using this browser.
Internet Explorer.
Microsoft Internet Explorer 1.0
Microsoft Internet Explorer 1.1
@Doorknob冰
use Internet Explorer.
Incorrect
Microsoft Internet Explorer 2.0
IE was the best choice once. That was a very long time ago.
It is again.
14:21
No. No it isn't.
Real programmers manually send HTTP headers and requests, and they look at the raw HTML returned. :P
Internet Explorer 6 was lagging behind the standard.
Internet Explorer 11 implemented it better than the Chrome of its time.
@Doorknob冰 @wizzwizz4 ಠ_ಠ
@wizzwizz4 no
@wizzwizz4 IE 6 adhered to no standard but its own.
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14:34
I've actually tried a later version of IE. It loaded stuff faster than my other browsers
My classmates and I were stunned by the empirical data too
But we didn't do enough experiments or control the factors well enough to determine if IE had actually gotten better
Load speed is a function of internet connection, not browser
Any "empirical" data is likely observational bias
Very well, we tested it on IE, FF and Chrome on the same connection, so I'm not sure what was going on
How is Microsoft Edge?
@Sherlock9 Irrelevant, since it doesn't come for any good OS. There is no win in Windows.
people in this channel have opinions. i bet people elsewhere have opinions too
14:42
There is no win in Windows. That's not an opinion. That's just a fact.
OSX is worse.
I haven't tried OS X, since that would require buying overpriced hardware with half-eaten fruit on its back.
@SuperJedi224 Although of course, in this case, it's a "lesser of two evils" sort of thing ;)
I like my hardware reasonably priced and my fruit intact.
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14:49
There is win in Windows! Windows is brilliant. It uses a propriety executable format, which it's illegal to create a parser for. It has the best browser ever, Internet Explorer, and the late-coming but still brilliant Firefox. (Unfortunately it still supports the legacy, outmoded and useless Chrome, so it's not all win!) It also...
slaps @wizzwizz4 with a large trout
> It uses a propriety executable format, which it's illegal to create a parser for.
How on Earth is that a good thing???
cooks the large trout by using it as a heatsink
How long are questions normally on the HNQ?
14:50
@wizzwizz4 Also, the places of IE and Chrom{e,ium} should be swapped
@JAtkin For however long they qualify, which is usually a few days
Neat
Sometimes a week or more though
@Doorknob Chromium isn't that bad, but Chrome is outright sucky.
14:51
@wizzwizz4 ... why?
I mean, if your standards for "good" are "IE," Chrome should look like the holy grail of browsers to you :P
Because it increases the processor speed without asking you, using more power and making Chrome "run faster". It opens more processes when the OS tries to throttle it.
It disobeys quite a few standards
and uses that to its advantage.
... what?
Firstly, no
Secondly, how does that apply to Chrome any more than Chromium?
Thirdly, again, no, that is false
@wizzwizz4 I agree that Chromium > Chrome, but it's basically Chromium > Chrome > ... > submerging your feet in boiling battery acid > IE.
14:56
In connection terms, where the connection is a small doorway:
Internet Explorer is like an over-polite group of people, constantly saying "After you" and not really moving quickly at all
Firefox is an ordered group, getting all the people / connections into a single-file line and being efficient (actually, IE requests faster just with FF in the background)
Chrome is a group of jerks who elbow everyone out of the way, which is great if you're using Chrome, but if too many people on the same network are using it, it's like two people trying to shove through a door at once.
And I have evidence.
And source code.
... okay, what is this "evidence"?
You can make it yourself. Just record the connections using Microsoft Message Analyser or the like.
How do you get the Onion Knight hat?
Nobody knows.
@wizzwizz4 so you don't have evidence?
14:58
I got it over night
Also, what in the world is "Microsoft Message Analyser" and why should I have it?
@Doorknob My evidence includes personal data; all the sockets and stuff on my local network.
All logged.
14:59
Okay, so show me?
Yeah, put it in a pastebin
@wizzwizz4 ...who set up your local network?
Because as of now, you have yet to provide any concrete information (other than highly questionable and strained metaphors)
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I do hate online discussions of browsers and OSs though. I think there isn't a very good way to determine "the best" considering the innumerable standards for good (e.g. Nice UI, supports my favorite add-ons, doesn't crash because I haven't thrown my bullcrap toolbars on there yet) and the conversation just devolves
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15:02
^
My criteria for "the best" include "not-IE," making this discussion fairly trivial from my standpoint. :P
@Sherlock9 I agree. This is just going to turn into "Everyone hate @wizzwizz4 because we don't like IE and he does".
@SuperJedi224 It's a standard network, Ok?
@Doorknob And when you have evidence, come back.
Evidence for what?
You're the one trying to convince me that IE is better than Chromium
Oh sweet Saint Nicholas, can we all just stop?
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15:05
^
@Doorknob冰 And you're the one saying that "Open source" stuff with closed-source binaries being auto-downloaded... Ok, I'll stop @Sherlock9.
Very well, let's go back to the usual routine of plugging our own questions and friendly bickering over golfing languages
Have you ever heard of aviSynth?
15:08
Speaking of plugs, anyone got an answer to my quipu question yet? codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/67603/…
from plug import shameless
shameless.onebox(QUIPU)
@Dennis Good grief
quip = shameless.onebox(QUIPU)
while True:
    for x in range(65536):
        quip = quip.__str__
    print(quip)
Uses up all your memory.
;'-(
golfed:
x=0
while 1:
    x=x.__str__
But doesn't print it's progress ;'-(
Why have you all gone quiet?
The chat ebbs and flows. Right now, everyone's doing other stuff.
I'm doing other stuff! ;-p
I'm always doing other stuff.
@aditsu really did have the right idea ->
> abandon all work, ye who enter here
15:30
hi
@BlockCoder1392 Hello
Why do you always say "Hello" whenever i say "hi"? :P
I go "hi", you go "'lo"
Hello is to Hi as please is to plz and sorry is to soz. Nobody thinks you actually mean it if you say plz or soz.
quirky is the new qwerty
quirkyweop
asdfghjtl;
zxcvbnm
The quirky keyboard.
15:47
uh wut
has anyone built esoteric IDE? i don't have visual studio...
Which language are you trying to write in?
guess
Pyth? CJam?
you aren't working on a Quipu answer to the quipu challenge, aren't you? ;)
@quintopia I have, but only with VS
15:49
It looks as if I have starred 80% of the messages on the starboard this time
@Doorknob冰 Wait, what?
Anyways...
@MartinBüttner well, I don't actually understand Quipu...but I would really like to see such an answer happen
isaacg got hat trick
@quartata Hi
HELLO I AM BUTTER GIVE ME BOT
(jk)
15:50
@quintopia well, I've got pseudo-code written up for it, but I've never written anything in Quipu, so I'm not sure how it will go...
The Coder's keyboard
@quartata I've mortarboarded exactly once since I joined this site.
@MartinBüttner can you distribute the built version?
It's kinda funny because you don't really notice it, but isaacg actually writes a lot of answers
@isacg is a code golfer
15:54
@quintopia any suggestions where to upload it?
@Sherlock9 sorry :/
That's funny, I got O Tannenbaum but it isn't Christmas yet...
I guess in a different timezone it is
@MartinBüttner Not a problem
@quartata -14/+12
If that is all, let us delete our comments?
Unless you've seen other typoes
@MartinBüttner ?
15:56
(ironically, the main Christmas celebrations in Germany are today, not tomorrow)
Oh I see.
I did inherit this question, and I haven't weeded out all the typoes
I think there was a meta post on that
@quartata all date based hats start 14 hours befor ethe UTC day and end 12 hours after it.
@SuperJedi224 Same
15:56
@Sherlock9 next time you post someone else's sandbox post, I'd suggesting sandboxing it yourself for a day or two ;)
I did
Twice I plugged it in the chat and everyone that was on said it looked fine!
Yeah, I'm a little frustrated that I keep missing all these typos though
@MartinBüttner uh...email it to me? I can put it on my VPS

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