The Nineteenth Byte

Alex A.

00:00

Come to Seattle and let's jam. :D

sweerpotato

taking next flight from Sweden

Alex A.

do it do it do it

sweerpotato

D:

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

> Come to Seattle and let's jam. :D

sweerpotato

haha

Alex A.

00:00

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ CJam 2 confirmed?!?!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. :O

sweerpotato

Code in 7/11 notation

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

prays that it wont be on sourceforge

sweerpotato

gg

Thomas Kwa

@AlexA. I'd rather have a Jelly 2

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:01

@ThomasKwa o-o Jelly the First is hardly finished

Alex A.

@ThomasKwa Jelly 1 isn't even done

Ninja'd

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ninja'd

DOUBLE NINJA'D

Alex A.

:O

sweerpotato

I'm amazed you listened to Meshuggah @AlexA.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

these things keep on happening to me XD

Thomas Kwa

00:01

I was just about to say "or a Jelly 1, for that matter"

sweerpotato

Never met anybody who actually listened to them

Alex A.

@sweerpotato Why? It's good stuff. :)

Nothing has always been my favorite album by them.

El'endia Starman

Jelly 1 has barely been started.

sweerpotato

Stengah is so fun to play

can't handle the snare solo in Spasm

rest of the song is so-so when I play it

Alex A.

Have you done any drum covers on YouTube?

sweerpotato

00:03

I have a really old cover of Slipknot - Psychosocial

Alex A.

Haven't heard it. I was never really into Slipknot.

I'd love to see the video though! :D

sweerpotato

goddamn I was awful

Slipknot - Psychosocial drum cover

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almost 6 years ago

:|

Alex A.

I think you sound great. :)

sweerpotato

Thanks :X

damn.. 6 years ago

now I have my own apartment and a digital drum kit

rip in time

quartata

@Dennis True, but shoco would beat a dictionary-approach for compressing Jelly code itself with the proper patterns

Alex A.

00:10

Haha

quartata

Oh, Dennis is gone.

He's abandoned us ;_;

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

lel

sweerpotato

@AlexA. what kind of music do you like?=

-=

Just realized I can edit posts

..again

Alex A.

@sweerpotato All kinds of stuff.

Minus the Bear is one of my favorite bands.

sweerpotato

Never heard of them

Lemme search them up

Alex A.

00:16

Minus the Bear- Hey, Wanna Throw Up? Get Me Naked

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@sweerpotato ^

quartata

@AlexA. wat

Alex A.

@quartata lel

quartata

So what happened with this:

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Q: Can I ask a question seeking feature requests for a golfing language?

I noticed an old question, An improved version of GolfScript, which asked, as a tips question, for people to suggest ways to improve GolfScript. This was a well-received question, but times may have changed. I'd like to ask a similar question about Pyth, for obvious reasons. I'd like to know whe...

sweerpotato

..

dat song title

:D

quartata

I thought this was acceptable but I just noticed the Pyth topic got closed

@sweerpotato Yeah, I don't normally judge books by their cover but here I'm judging both the book and the reader

:/

sweerpotato

00:19

haha!

ayy lmao

Alex A.

@quartata ಠ_ಠ

quartata

alex-is-messed-up

Alex A.

@quartata ಠ___ಠ

quartata

and-wrong

FlagAsSpam

very-very-wrong

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:20

alex-is-wrಠng

quartata

dont-forget-about-him-being-wrong

Anyways.

FlagAsSpam

ಠ is fun, btw.

Alex A.

@quartata Their song titles are often strange, particularly for older albums, but they rarely if ever have anything to do with the actual song. I recommend giving it a shot.

quartata

Aside from string and array manipulation, any thoughts on how existing features in Jelly could be improved?

Nathan Merrill

@Sparr That definition is right. You need to select an IPAddress

and return it

Thomas Kwa

00:21

@quartata You should go to the Jelly room.

FlagAsSpam

@quartata Class interaction.

sweerpotato

@AlexA. this is really nice

quartata

@ThomasKwa But no one goes into the Jelly room :/

FlagAsSpam

Can you imagine standard libraries in Jelly? D: Written in Jelly?

Alex A.

@sweerpotato :D

Thomas Kwa

00:21

I'm in the Jelly room.

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quartata

I wanted to just see what everyone thought of Jelly so far.

Nathan Merrill

@Sparr oh, lol, just read your other ping

Alex A.

@ThomasKwa Out of context quote of the day

Nathan Merrill

should have read all pings before replying

SuperJedi224

Hey guys my bot has a die roller utility now

sweerpotato

00:24

@AlexA. ever heard Ghost?

Alex A.

@sweerpotato Is that a band? Maybe but I'm not sure. I think not.

sweerpotato

Yeah, band

Ghost B.C - Year Zero (Lyric Video - HD)

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SuperJedi224

quartata

@SuperJedi224 How did you generate that?

Alex A.

@quartata Carefully

SuperJedi224

00:27

@quartata codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/38573/…

quartata

Ah gotcha.

Alex A.

@sweerpotato Not really my cup of tea. For some reason I thought the chant in the beginning was from Monty Python. o_O

quartata

I thought for a second you had made a soup whose ashes were the image

sweerpotato

Monty Python?! :D

Alex A.

haha

quartata

00:28

Still nice

El'endia Starman

...weird. You get ashes from soups...

sweerpotato

lmao

quartata

Song That Might Play When You Pet Gabe

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sweerpotato

The Cheese Shop sketch, Monty Python

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SuperJedi224

@El'endiaStarman Cellular automaton terminology

sweerpotato

00:29

God I love Monty Python

quartata

why am I listening to this stuff

@SuperJedi224 We're so weird

sweerpotato

Monty Python 2.x

El'endia Starman

@SuperJedi224 I know. It's still weird. Both terms make sense in their own individual context, but together...

Alex A.

@quartata This is the soundtrack to my dreams

quartata

@AlexA. 10/10

SuperJedi224

00:30

@quartata That would be awesome though

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

github.com/ConorOBrien-Foxx/GoLScript

quartata

@SuperJedi224 Like a reverse soup finder.

Take the still life and find a soup that produces it

That would be... something

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

conorobrien-foxx.github.io/GoLScript and conorobrien-foxx.github.io/GoLScript/interpreter.html

quartata

Undertale - Megalovania... KAZOO'd!

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more undertale weird things

SuperJedi224

DuckTales - The Moon Theme Acapella

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quartata

00:33

Relevant:

Undertale OST - Dogsong Extended

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Thomas Kwa

Another sandbox question written

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Number of strict partitions of a positive integer code-golf math integer-partitions OEIS A000009 counts the number of strict partitions of the integers. A strict partition of a nonnegative integer n is a set of positive integers (so no repetition is allowed, and order does not matter) that sum ...

Strangely, we don't have a plain integer partitions question.

Alex A.

4 days of taco bounty left

Maltysen

@ThomasKwa because this: pyth.herokuapp.com/…

and it should be seven bytes except for a bug

quartata

Dec 8 at 2:21, by quartata

Every time I try to do it, I get hungry for tacos.

challenge 2 difficult

Alex A.

@quartata Eat tacos beforehand then power through

quartata

00:43

@AlexA. That's a good idea

Thomas Kwa

@Maltysen Catalog then? I feel like partitions is a fairly standard problem.

quartata

calls Rubios

Can I have liek 10 chicken tacos and 10 fish tacos pls?

Alex A.

who is Rubios

quartata

Oh I forgot you don't have them up in Washington

Rubio's Coastal Grill

Rubio's Coastal Grill, formerly known as Rubio's Fresh Mexican Grill, is a fast casual "Fresh Mex" or "New Mex" restaurant chain specializing in Mexican food, with an emphasis on fish tacos. As of 2007, Rubio's operates, licenses or franchises more than 190 restaurants in California, Arizona, Colorado, Utah and Nevada. Rubio's was voted "Best of the Best (Cheap Eats)" in the June 2008 issue of San Diego Magazine. Its headquarters are in Carlsbad. According to founder Ralph Rubio, he and some friends from San Diego State University were on spring break in San Felipe when he first encountered fish...

filthy plebian

Thomas Kwa

I think for one or both questions I should impose a runtime restriction. Is it possible to generate partitions without counting them?

Alex A.

00:44

Ralph

Oh damn, Ralph is the name of the Rubio guy who started it :O

Thomas Kwa

So what does everyone say on integer partitions: catalog or not?

quartata

Catalogs don't exist anymore

Just do whatever

Thomas Kwa

Should it be restricted-complexity to polynomial time?

quartata

@ThomasKwa Yes

Thomas Kwa

I think I'll also disallow builtins that solve the problem exactly.

Alex A.

00:49

@ThomasKwa ಠ_ಠ

Julia, 10 bytes: partitions

Thomas Kwa

It looks like the partition numbers grow superpolynomially, so it's not necessary to disallow Pyth's ./

Alex A.

> superpolynomially

Thomas Kwa

I won't have any restrictions on strict partitions, I think

quartata

Mathematica IntegerPartitions

Julia wins the built-in contest

:/

Thomas Kwa

@AlexA. It looks exponential but I can't tell.

El'endia Starman

00:51

/me hurriedly implements integer partitions built-in in Minkolang

quartata

@El'endiaStarman They're banned don't bother

Alex A.

@quartata >:D

Thomas Kwa

Maybe the slope goes to zero on that second graph, but I don't know.

Alex A.

If it was exponential, the log-scale plot would be linear, wouldn't it?

El'endia Starman

I think the log-log plot would approach linear if it kept going.

Thomas Kwa

00:54

Nooo, my internetz

Maltysen

@quartata Pyth: ./

Thomas Kwa

@Maltysen you mean l./

Maltysen

true

but does that juila built in return length?

Alex A.

@Maltysen Length?

You mean the number of partitions?

Maltysen

yeah

and is it strict partitions? Pyth's isnt

Alex A.

00:56

partitions(n) actually returns an iterator, but if you collect() it, it's an array of arrays.

So I guess you could do n->length(partitions(n))

quartata

@AlexA. IntegerPartitions returns an array of arrays

So that means Mathematica is shorter

ha

Alex A.

We need the number of partitions though

quartata

Oh.

Then Count[IntegerPartitions[#]]

Except I can't golf Mathematica

So there's probably a shorter way with @ notation

Alex A.

Julia, 24: n->length(partitions(n))

Maltysen

idk mathematica but I'm gonna guess Count@IntegerPartitions

Alex A.

00:58

So Julia still beats Mathematica :D

quartata

@Maltysen That wouldn't work

Maltysen

i've never actually used mathematica before ;P

quartata

Count@IntegerPartitions@#&?

I think that's it.

Alex A.

I have. I bought a student version of it many years ago and realized soon thereafter that I don't like it compared to Maple.

quartata

@AlexA. WHAT

Alex A.

01:00

IMO it's hard to use.

quartata

EVEN NOW...THE EVIL SEED OF WHAT YOU'VE DONE GERMINATES WITHIN YOU

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Thomas Kwa

Plain integer partitions is posted ☟

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Integer partitions! code-golf math integer-partitions restricted-complexity OEIS A000041 counts the number of partitions of the integers. A partition of a nonnegative integer n is an unordered list of positive numbers that sum to n. For example, 5 has three different partitions: 5, 4,1, 3,2, ...

Thomas Kwa

Wait, I forgot to edit the start

Alex A.

@quartata My girlfriend just got home and I played that at full volume as she walked in the door

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quartata

01:04

@AlexA. I'm sorry.

Alex A.

She's the one who originally showed it to me.

El'endia Starman

Wait, why does 2+1+1+1 not count as an integer partition of 5? Is it that not all summands are distinct?

Thomas Kwa

No, I forgot to edit it from my other question @El'endiaStarman

phase

3 rows of people instead of 2, crazy days man

quartata

@phase Not for me.

Also @phase can you explain to me how string subtraction works in O?

phase

01:12

𝔼𝕊𝕄𝕚𝕟 shows up fine for me here, but not on PPCG

quartata

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Q: Is it a pangram?

Write a function or program that takes as its input a string and prints a truthy value if the string is a pangram (a sequence of letters containing at least one of each letter in the English alphabet) and a falsey value otherwise. Case of letters should be ignored; If the string is abcdefghijklm...

code-golf string

Trying to make an answer for this in O.

phase

@quartata "test" "est" - prints t, because est was removed

"westtest" "est" - prints wt, as all instances of est were removed

quartata

Oh I see.

So that's why this does nothing

Is there a way to make it more like remove each character?

Rather than a whole instance of it?

Cause if there is a way to do that...

Then O wins :P

phase

@quartata Like abc "minus" ac gives b?

quartata

@phase Yes.

Like ideally that link I gave you

Wait...

OK, more like this

o-lang.herokuapp.com/link/UV9HLQ==/…

That should output nothing instead of a

Is there any way to do that?

So it's like a set difference?

phase

01:20

You could iterate through the alphabet set and remove it if it was in the input

quartata

:/

I might need another approach.

Either way I doubt it'll win now. Maybe I can hope for a tie..?

Rats.

So you can iterate through the strings like an array?

phase

@quartata You have to split it into an array with s (for the moment)

I was thinking something like Gs{n:V;Q_s{nV=VN?}d}d

quartata

I was thinking take the input iterate through the alphabet and subtract each char individually, then length the result

I guess 0 can't count as a truthy value though

phase

@quartata You could increment it ()) to make it one

quartata

@phase Yeah

Er

How do I iterate through the array :P

I can't read your C.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:28

@ThomasKwa is it even possible to generate partitions without exponential time? ._.

phase

@quartata "test"s{np}d

quartata

Oh, got it.

n = used in for loops

That's the counter right?

phase

@quartata The object that is being iterated, so the current element for arrays, counter for numbers

quartata

Ah

Oh I just realized I'm thinking through this backwards

Got it

GQ_s{n-}d

Now I just need length

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I think the challenge actually is to count them.

quartata

01:32

That's e

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Still

quartata

All right beautiful

GQ_s{n-}de)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

AFAIK there is no formula

quartata

11 bytes

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

nom nom nom now 14

phase

01:33

@quartata but that also prints out any leftover of the string, since e peeks instead of pops

quartata

@phase Ah

phase

you could just says "only works in REPL" if that's allowed

quartata

Nah

Is there something like nip?

phase

What is nip?

quartata

Removes second element on stack

phase

01:34

\; is the best you got

quartata

Although I just realized that using length won't work

Since falsy has to be a constant value

phase

arggrg

quartata

Logical NOT?

phase

There is none yet :\

I usually use some weird 0=10?

quartata

GQ_s{n-}de\;0=

Oh but wait

GQ_s{n-}dS=

Got it.

11 bytes. Can't be shorter I don't think.

Ah well.

phase

01:38

Prints true for a_bcb_defghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz

quartata

@phase It should.

phase

radical

quartata

That has all the letters of the alphabet

phase

oh i derp

quartata

Wait a second.

Why is The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog a pangram? There's no a

2

Oh.

lazy

I'm dumb.

2

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:42

I'm off to... shudders Update the docs. Wish me luck! :D

phase

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ gg

quartata

0

A: Is it a pangram?

O, 11 bytes GQ_s{n-}dS= Try it online. Sadly, O does not have set difference :/ Explanation G Pushes the alphabet to the stack Q Pushes input to the stack _ Converts the string to lowercase s Split string into char array { }d Iterate through ar...

Pyth cannot be beaten, sadly.

4

I've tried all the languages I know.

Here's a pretty O solution at any rate

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

How long is pyth, again?

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ 6 bytes

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

hmm

quartata

01:44

Oh it's 7.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

,-sai in Jolf, I think

Cyoce

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ glhf

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Seriously

Probably uses stuff posted after the challenge though

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata It's invalid, of course, since the s object is.. yeah

quartata

At any rate I beat most of the other golfing languages

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:45

wait actually l-sai

quartata

Tied with CJam

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^)^

quartata

Thanks @phase

phase

@quartata no prob

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

mini challenge print the ascii characters from 32 to 126

Cyoce

01:47

My language (currently under development) would probably beat that score without special modifications to fit the challenge, but would be invalid (the language isn't done)

Dennis

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ GS2, 1 byte: ç gs2.tryitonline.net/#code=w6c&input=

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Cyoce what is it's paradigm?

@Dennis there's a newline...

Cyoce

orientation?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

As in, object-oriented, stack-oriented

Cyoce

stack

quartata

01:48

That's called paradigm @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Cyoce

#rekt

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata shit

quartata

Calling it orientation implies some very.... strange... things

Dennis

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Nope.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata yeah

quartata

01:49

That brings up some good philosophical questions actually.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Dennis Nevermind, just a display bug on your part :P

Never split output up by punctuation

quartata

Any rate, I'm proud of my O answer.

The first answer I actually put effort into.

Watch it get no upvotes in exchange.

4

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I think I'll ~~down~~ upvote it

Cyoce

@quartata my life

PhiNotPi

Can anyone identify this language?

> Te kiero preguntar algoo

El'endia Starman

01:52

Foo.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

fire way

quartata

@PhiNotPi Really shitty Spanish

Dennis

^

quartata

It means "I want to ask you something"

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

yo say habla?

me no habla

Thomas Kwa

01:53

It's something European, bc 'preguntar'

quartata

It's really shitty Spanish.

I'm 100% confident.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

But, alas, quartata is an idiot.

;)

PhiNotPi

okay, I got it as a random text message from an unknown number

Dennis

quartata-is-right

Doorknob

"preguntar" is a word in Portuguese too, yeah?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:54

@Dennis duh

quartata

@Dennis yay

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Idiots don't make great O answers

LOOK UPON THE EVIDENCE

Doorknob

disclaimer: all of my knowledge of Portuguese comes from looking at the home page of Stack Overflow in Portuguese

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Never mind... it's "perguntar." Slightly different.

RikerW

preguntar means to ask or inquire. I speak a little bit of spanish

Doorknob

Lo sabía también ;)

Dennis

@Doorknob It's also quero, no quiero, which it what the kiero is supposed to spell.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:56

I'm tired.

Doorknob

@Dennis Maybe it's just supposed to be really, really bad Portuguese. :P (probably not)

Dennis

Hahaha.

It's Spanish txtspk, no doubt about it.

RikerW

Anybody here not in America?

Doorknob

@Dennis

El'endia Starman

Well, Dennis is in South America...

Dennis

01:58

I'm in America. ^

RikerW

Where then?

Like what country.

El'endia Starman

Paraguay, I think.

Dennis

^

PhiNotPi

Some weird country like that.

Dennis

Hush, you.

RikerW

01:59

Never met somebody named Dennis from Paraguay. :P

El'endia Starman

Well, now you have!

RikerW

Wait, from Paraguay or in Paraguay?

Dennis

In.

Doorknob

I don't think I've ever met anyone from Paraguy (aside from on the Internet).

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