The Nineteenth Byte - 2024-05-06 (page 2 of 3)

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11:58 AM

Why did a moderator remove my pins in MY CHAT ROOM?

12:46 PM

@RydwolfPrograms this does still look like a pretty hard problem though. There are so many edge cases if one wanted to solve this with rules that you might as well just use a brute force approach. For example: You want to use "c" and "m" on the largest numbers (zombies), ideally "c" on the very largest, except if that number is so low in the stack that the numbers behind it are not big enough for that to have enough of an effect. I don't know how to prove a general rule would work.

got my second pull request to Neoforge merged :D

feels good to contribute

now, I did forget that M comes before P in the alphabet three times

but still

@Ginger so you want to tell us how this is relevant to a mod loader

github.com/neoforged/NeoForge/pull/918#discussion_r1589800413

and then I managed to do it two more times in the discord

@Ginger silly ginger

everyone knows the alphabet goes ABCDEFGHIJKLPNOMQRSTUVWXYZ

There's a proposal to move N up before M. (I've been a proponent of this at least since I was in 3rd grade.) You can see it already implemented in BQN which is named after incrementing the letters of APL — assuming N before M.

1:01 PM

I thimk I could support that. Soumds like sonethimg I night be imterested im

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Q: Our Partnership with OpenAI

Today, we announced an exciting new partnership with OpenAI. We’re pleased that OpenAI shares our commitment to socially responsible AI. You can read more details in the press release. We share updates on partnerships here on Meta because we believe in providing a space for you to ask questions a...

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new SE partnership with OpenAI just dropped

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find the press release here

> OpenAI and Stack Overflow are coming together via OverflowAPI access to provide OpenAI users and customers with the accurate and vetted data foundation that AI tools need to quickly find a solution to a problem so that technologists can stay focused on priority tasks

> OpenAI will utilize Stack Overflow’s OverflowAPI product and collaborate with Stack Overflow to improve model performance for developers who use their products. This integration will help OpenAI improve its AI models using enhanced content and feedback from the Stack Overflow community and provide attribution to the Stack Overflow community within ChatGPT to foster deeper engagement with content.

> Stack Overflow will utilize OpenAI models as part of their development of OverflowAI and work with OpenAI to leverage insights from internal testing to maximize the performance of OpenAI models. OpenAI’s partnership with Stack Overflow will help further drive its mission to empower the world to develop technology through collective knowledge, as Stack Overflow will be able to create better products that benefit the Stack Exchange community’s health, growth, and engagement.

@lyxal Didn't OpenAI already rip SO?

now it's official and up to date

@lyxal lies, treachery

@lyxal what

are you serious

no

i'm lyxal

thanks stack (lies)

1:05 PM

@lyxal Are we taking bets on whether the post will reach -1000?

this is news to basically everyone btw

no mod preview

downvote number six 😎

@Adám well that seems silly

how much longer will this go on for

Why would you place bets on something that's extremely very likely :p

so summary is this: OpenAI gets live SE api access, SE gets OpenAI models for OverflowAI

1:08 PM

wonderful :|

That's different to OpenAI scraping SE, because it means that data can be fetched from actual posts intentionally

plus no retraining

just stick the api data in

@lyxal Is it though? Only one visible SE Meta post reached -1000.

@lyxal *sonethimg

@Adám if the strike post can reach +1000, those people can easily downvote

almost spelt that downvore

@Neil fixed :p

@Ginger tbf there's already such an agreement with google

yeah, I know

1:14 PM

besides, looks like technically speaking it's only SO data

not SE in its entirity

(based on readings of the overflow api page)

1:28 PM

@lyxal and to think I was planning to make alphabet rearrangement jokes :p

instead my evening is now watching TL :p

1:43 PM

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A: Our Partnership with OpenAI

Some questions that come to mind: Is it going to be possible for indvidual users to opt out of having answers touched by OverflowAPI? Follow up: can sites opt out of being included in OverflowAPI? Related: What sites are included/excluded from OverflowAPI? What applications do y'all plan to use ...

"OverflowAPI"?

literally the thing OpenAI gets out of this

stackoverflow.co/api-solutions

oh

2:05 PM

honestly, SE can keep their AI stuff going

more MSE rep for me :p

and more discussion tag badge process too :p

@lyxal wait what

that's right

SE + OpenAI

wrong decision, that's just going to make OpenAI's next models shittier

no?

OpenAI is getting access to an API which can be queried by responses

this isn't training data as such

it's called Retrieval Augmented Generation

aws.amazon.com/what-is/retrieval-augmented-generation

yeah yeah I was joking

2:14 PM

@Ginger lol same, I've got PRs to PaperMC merged, had the same feeling

@mathscat but hey, given the latest AI generated answer scandal over on StackOverflow, it might actually make things worse :p

1221 answers on SO were recently confirmed to be AI generated

"how were they confirmed?" you ask

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Q: A commitment to amend and move forward

I posted ~1850 answers between March 2023 and April 2024, including ~1100 answers to bountied questions during their bounty periods. Of those 1850 answers, about two-thirds were based on generative AI content. I would like to sincerely apologize for the series of answers I posted on Stack Overflo...

discussion account-suspension ai-generated-content

A user with 1.3 million reputation admitted to posting a massive amount of AI generated answers

also, bronze badge!

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Unrelated String

people are great at naming political stances to make them sound more coherent and reasonable than they are
and claiming general values that don't have to be consistent with their judgments about any specific scenario :P

@lyxal lul

how'd I miss that

It wasn't featured

And even though it was temporarily on the hot on meta section, the down votes quickly removed it from there

I only found it because it was mentioned in TL lol

2:30 PM

ah

@lyxal okay wow

It's been fun to watch over the last few days

Anyhow I'm off for the night

Gonna have some fun transcripts to backread

o/

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Q: 3 Dimensional Minesweeper

3-Dimensional Minesweeper I've been on a minesweeper kick for a while, but all the questions are for 2 dimensions (or that one in 1D). But 2D is 2 easy! Challenge Write the shortest code possible to fill in the clues for a 3-dimensional minesweeper grid, since extra clicks are not optimal. Input ...

code-golf grid 3d minesweeper

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