The Nineteenth Byte

des54321

00:00

but yeah not the really old yellow brick

Ginger

can you find the video? sounds funny

des54321

the one that looks like this

Ginger

that one ran C or smth and was programmed using IR

des54321

the RCX that one was called

Ginger

and now LEGO's gone Back In Time with their latest brick

it looks like something made for 5-year-olds

Unrelated String

00:03

@des54321 yeah this is the one i had too

@RadvylfPrograms ooh smart

des54321

@Ginger whats the new one? my google searches arent coming up with anything newer than the ev3

Ginger

can't recall

lemme see if I can find it

Lego Mindstorms Robot Inventor

des54321

damn wtf is that thing

it doesnt even have a screen

Ginger

yea

my reaction as well

lyxal

00:18

@des54321 that's what I meant by the orange one but there was another one I'm thinking of

Ginger

ayyy I did it

I am successfully capturing 50x50 video from my EV3

Unrelated String

nice

Ginger

at a stable 20fps and 1.5s latency

des54321

wonderful! you are successfully watching incredibly low res video on something made for making lego robots

Ginger

I sure am

you say that like it's a bad thing

Nobody

01:16

@des54321 good pfp, i think i'm gonna change one too

done

Visited 25 days: Happy, um, 25 day anniversary to, um, nobody...

;-)

Nobody

01:40

> We will rotate between Tuesdays and Thursdays, and shift the start time in 8 hour increments.

why not?

caird coinheringaahing

Because that didn't really work

Made the scheduling for events (that ping you get telling you it's time for BMG/LYAL) so much more annoying, made it harder to remember when the event was on so fewer people showed up, etc.

Nobody

oh ok

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Q: Biweekly Minigolf is Halfdead

Biweekly Minigolf is Halfdead... ... what should we do? As we can see from this excerpt BMG is slowly dying. People don't seem interested enough to even start it and the 21st BMG has little participants. (even though it hasn't happened in months lol) https://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/mes...

And, as I promised about 20 days ago, thank you

caird coinheringaahing

@NewPosts STATUS

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[01:53:02] status: 240

Nobody

@cairdcoinheringaahing what's that

caird coinheringaahing

01:53

@RadvylfPrograms New Posts seems to have missed the recent meta post

Nobody

@cairdcoinheringaahing seems so

caird coinheringaahing

@Nobody A command that ROs and mods can use if they think New Posts/Sandbox Posts is offline/has missed a post, to check if it's up

Actually, that's a good question: can the new ROs use the status command?

Nobody

@cairdcoinheringaahing OK, so, idk

lyxal

@NewPosts STATUS

there's your answer

Nobody

to check if it's up: how

caird coinheringaahing

01:55

@RadvylfPrograms The new ROs need to be added to New Posts' status command thing

@Nobody You don't

Nobody

@cairdcoinheringaahing i mean, how does ros check

caird coinheringaahing

I can't remember exactly what it looks like, but it's noticeably different

Or, it just doesn't respond

Nobody

@cairdcoinheringaahing oh ok

caird coinheringaahing

→ 5 messages moved to The Nineteenth Bakery. I'll leave the rest for Redwolf's edification

Nobody

so it is up but missed the post? ok

caird coinheringaahing

01:58

Yeah, Redwolf can take a look at the bot itself when he's around and try to figure out why

Nobody

Good Old Catch-The-Bug Time

Seggan

in light of this why not do like maybe a "work on your language" event thingy

Nobody

ok, gotta go, o/

Seggan

where people who are making langs get to show them off and develop them with others and other people can watch and participate in development

caird coinheringaahing

For what it's worth, regarding my recent answer, "letting it die" does, imo, also include (eventually) removing BMG from the chat event schedule, potentially as a "finally blow" (if that makes sense)

Seggan

02:05

ok that kinda was redundant (my chat post)

caird coinheringaahing

@Seggan Similar to LYAL, but where people can discuss and suggest how the language evolves, based on their impressions from trying it?

Seggan

kinda

lyxal

@Seggan I suggested that once

Seggan

tho my idea wont necessarily be restricted to one lang like LYAL, anyone can pitch in

lyxal

Apr 21 at 11:04, by lyxal

They'd sort of be like community directives - things that are on topic that people would want to collaborate on

@Seggan like that?

caird coinheringaahing

02:08

That seems much more general than just "working on an in-dev lang"

Seggan

bad mobile hotspot connection, still loading transcript :P

oh yeah, your idea is much more general than mine

lyxal

@Seggan I know that feeling :p

Seggan

so ya think i should write up a meta proposal?

or maybe repost this in the morning when theres more people

lyxal

I'd be on board with it

Seggan

and see the reaction then

caird coinheringaahing

02:13

Up to you. Can't hurt to ask again at another time to gauge interest before meta tho

Nobody

SO, DID SEGGAN WRITE A META UP

BAD CAPS LOCK BE OBEDIENT

Seggan

@Nobody ima ask in chat again in 12 hours and see the reaction. if it is positive ill write up a meta post

also i thought you left :P

caird coinheringaahing

@RadvylfPrograms Got to say, I've been super close to doing this multiple times: RaspberryPi.SE has (had?) a room called "The Bakery", so I double checked which room every time :P

Nobody

@Seggan ok, went back

Seggan

02:28

@Ginger is there makina docs anywhere?

Nobody

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A: Nominations for Language of the Month, Take 2

MarioLANG MarioLANG is a two-dimensionalesoteric programming languagemade byUser:Wh1teWolf, based on Super Mario. The source code's layout is similar to a Super Mario world, however the programs written in MarioLANG look like a completely normal application when compiled. It is evenTuring-comple...

PyGamer0

@emanresuA is now colorful

caird coinheringaahing

So is Ginger and des54321

Pride Month

PyGamer0

oh

i was about to say why is everyone colorful

caird coinheringaahing

Didn't you know? During June, everyone in the world becomes gay, and so must show off rainbows in some way :P

Nobody

02:41

ummmm

the opposite of me I guess

PyGamer0

@cairdcoinheringaahing the foka lol

Seggan

@Nobody is your avatar Nobody or is it just not loading for me

Nobody

@Seggan that's nobody

all white, nobody

Seggan

mhm

Nobody

@Seggan ;-)

;;;;----))))

PyGamer0

02:44

i used the `You are not JoKing, you are <name>!" on my friends,

Unrelated String

nice

PyGamer0

now they think i am dumber

Nobody

hahahahaha

explain

PyGamer0

@lyxal how is it funny when you do it :P

Nobody

to them

@PyGamer0 idk, maybe you've got to explain joking a person

Unrelated String

02:45

it probably helps that we have someone named jo king
whom your friends are probably not familiar with

Nobody

crash

PyGamer0

yeah i also told them "Jo King is a person living in Sydney" :p

they just dont get the joke lol

Nobody

@PyGamer0 explain cgcc and stuff

PyGamer0

o_o

Nobody

@lyxal i am suddenly interested in your name, how

caird coinheringaahing

02:46

@PyGamer0 This is so weird :P

PyGamer0

o_/

thejonymyster

is lyxal named after vyxal or is vyxal named after lyxal

Nobody

vyxal named after lyxal i guess

caird coinheringaahing

If someone just turned around to me and said "You're not laughing, you're caird", and their explanation was "Laugh Ing is a person living in Vladivostok", I'd have so many more questions :P

6

thejonymyster

people say that to me all the time even though my name isnt caird

Nobody

02:49

@cairdcoinheringaahing h m m, hahaha

Radvylf Programs

03:01

Okay, lyxal, pxeger, and emanresu A can now check NP/SP's status

Nobody

good

lyxal

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A: The many users of CGCC

Wow, y'all with your usernames that actually have meaning. I literally just spent 5 minutes typing random keys until I ended up with something I deemed "cool" and "ironic". Having said that, I did want to make sure the letters L and X were present (for maximum coolness) and that there was a name ...

Aug 15, 2021 at 8:05, by exedraj

Fun fact: it was an ipad keyboard that I was mashing that gave me Lyxal as a username

@thejonymyster I came first. Then the language

Purely because I'm that uncreative and uninspired

Nobody

hahaha

thejonymyster

@lyxal guys i just made a new golfing lang called vhejonymyster

doesnt have the same ring to it

lyxal

@PyGamer0 because I do it with context and because I've conditioned y'all to laugh at my horrible jokes

thejonymyster

03:06

although if i did make one itd be really funny if i named it that

lyxal

@thejonymyster duh, it only works with 5 letter usernames which are clearly the objectively best length usernames

caird coinheringaahing

vaird

thejonymyster

vhejo

:P getting closer

lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing see now that's a good language name

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vring

caird coinheringaahing

03:07

@lyxal yeah, but I already have a language whose name begins with v

lyxal

If v doesn't work, you can always try the letter j or the letter m

Like Jyxal and Myxal (real language languages btw)

caird coinheringaahing

jaird or maird :P

"maird" sounds like a real word tbh

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i do not like those

thejonymyster

jhejo...........................................................

Unrelated String

there's just something wrong about them

Radvylf Programs

03:08

"Jaird" sounds like some weird pronounciation of "Jared"

caird coinheringaahing

@thejonymyster ~~jhaego~~

lyxal

And that concludes my horrible master-class on esolang naming

emanresu A

^^^

caird coinheringaahing

@RadvylfPrograms Honestly, looks like how someone who spells "Ashley" as "Ashleigh" would spell "Jared" :P

thejonymyster

jairhd

Nobody

03:11

oh ok

for emanresu A, a username pronounced bread

lyxal

Sure makes life easier

caird coinheringaahing

In other news, "ghoti" is the new way to pronounce "fish"

PyGamer0

@cairdcoinheringaahing Rick Ashtleigh

thejonymyster

@cairdcoinheringaahing that would also make a good lang name

Unrelated String

fun fact, the first time i heard of ghoti was because it's the word for fish in klingon :P

er, ghotI'

user

03:15

@Nobody you’re gay when it’s not June but become straight in June?

caird coinheringaahing

During June, the market becomes saturated, so you get the best return on investment if you become straight. But, during the rest of the year, the inverse is true

user

On the contrary

If you’re straight in June while everyone is gay, you don’t get any profits

You gotta be gay/straight at the same time as everyone else

caird coinheringaahing

Nah, the stock price of gay plummets during June, because everyone is it

user

If you’re really talented you can be both

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah, but being bisexual is cheating. It's why the SEC arrests bisexuals

user

03:19

@cairdcoinheringaahing no, the demand for gay also increases because everyone is gay

Nobody

@user wdym

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah, but because the market is so saturated, you only get a tiny percentage of the profits from gay. If you invest in straight for June, then your smaller profits are distributed among the fewer straights during the month

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing the sec has suppressed pan sexual and bisexual people for too long

Nobody

oh , hh

Radvylf Programs

@user Gender anarchocapitalism?

caird coinheringaahing

03:21

@user The tax break for being asexual is crazy as well

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing this economics is going over my head but I’ll take your word for it

@cairdcoinheringaahing but it’s like living in Alaska

caird coinheringaahing

@RadvylfPrograms There are as many genders as you can buy

user

The government gives you money, but at what cost?

caird coinheringaahing

Nah, they give you garlic bread

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing no, creation of genders is unfortunately controlled by a single organization

@cairdcoinheringaahing oh it’d be worth it then

Radvylf Programs

03:23

@user The USSR invented nonbinary (computers, at least)

caird coinheringaahing

@user Ah yes, GenderCorp

I'm excited to see the fall line of genders, so in right now

user

@RadvylfPrograms trinary is still not enough

Radvylf Programs

Although recent developments in the field of quantum mechanics means that we'll soon be able to be 2^n genders at once

user

Ooh

caird coinheringaahing

I can't believe I get to cite this, but:

Radvylf Programs

03:24

Which will break gender cryptography, but also allow for interesting new scientific developments

caird coinheringaahing

Jan 4 at 22:21, by caird coinheringaahing

@thejonymyster Is this hardware that uses they/them pronouns? ;P

thejonymyster

@user psst... come to the dark web we have forbidden secret genders

user

Gender superposition

caird coinheringaahing

@RadvylfPrograms Which pales in comparison to genderfluid people's abilities of just being every gender at once if they want

user

@thejonymyster like what

Radvylf Programs

03:25

Actually, "gender cryptography" sounds like it would be an interesting field.

caird coinheringaahing

@user like that one over there, that we can't talk about

@thejonymyster "Hey kid, wanna buy some genders? *opens trenchcoat to reveal a bunch of pride flags*"

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing i would honestly pay good money for a superpower letting me change gender at will

Radvylf Programs

Gender or sex?

user

Both

thejonymyster

@user yknow when you finally get the fitted sheet on after struggling with it for way too long and its not even satisfying now that its complete? theres a gender for that

caird coinheringaahing

03:26

@user Good news is that it's actually free to change gender at will

user

Oh yes

Radvylf Programs

My fitted sheet actually is satisfying, so I guess I have a regular old non-forbidden gender :/

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing it may be free but i don’t have that ability

caird coinheringaahing

@thejonymyster I was actually one of the betatesters for that gender, it wasn't great before we rebalanced it

thejonymyster

lmao that just makes me think of the like

tf2 rebalancing of teams mid match

but for gender

autobalance thats the word

Radvylf Programs

03:28

A video game where instead of classes everyone picks a gender and they have distinct abilities and powers

caird coinheringaahing

@user yet

Radvylf Programs

Sort of ninja'd wow

thejonymyster

are you saying that heavy is a gender

user

@thejonymyster is this basically an upgraded version of the fitted sheet fetish? Because my friend has that and it’s kinda annoying

caird coinheringaahing

@RadvylfPrograms So, this would make bank from trans gamers

thejonymyster

03:29

@user -_-; i didnt know that was a thing good lord

caird coinheringaahing

@user wut

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing yeah I’m working on becoming asexual

Radvylf Programs

@user I got zero (relevant) results googling that

user

Thank god

thejonymyster

possibly for the best

Radvylf Programs

03:29

Your friend might just be an interesting person

caird coinheringaahing

Welp, rule 34 is now going to come into effect

user

I would be horrified if it was real

Radvylf Programs

No fitted_sheet tag on any of the major rule34 sites either

user

@RadvylfPrograms he is also imaginary

Nobody

@cairdcoinheringaahing which rule

Unrelated String

03:30

i feel like that could totally be a thing

just very niche

caird coinheringaahing

@RadvylfPrograms You aren't googling hard enough, I have results ಠ_ಠ

user

@RadvylfPrograms ferb, i know what we’re doing today

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oｈ

Radvylf Programs

I have a new pack of drawing pencils, let's do this

(Actually it's four years old and I found it under my bed)

It has a squishy eraser

caird coinheringaahing

Just gonna save this convo in case Redwolf ever runs for mod :P

Unrelated String

03:31

lmao

thejonymyster

@RadvylfPrograms how squishy are we talking? asking for a friend

user

@RadvylfPrograms like, squishier than normal erasers?

caird coinheringaahing

> Shop Our Fetish Bed Sheets Range

no

Radvylf Programs

One of those kneadable ones

thejonymyster

@user it seems we have a mutual friend

:P jk i dont want any part in this

Unrelated String

03:32

there's a difference between fetish bed sheets and a bed sheet fetish

user

Interesting, i should get one

Radvylf Programs

@UnrelatedString Yeah, all I can find are the former

Unrelated String

@RadvylfPrograms what

user

@UnrelatedString why not get both

Radvylf Programs

A kneadable eraser, you can squish them into any shape to erase fine details and stuff

They're actually kinda not that useful but they're fun

Unrelated String

03:33

huh

that actually kinda makes sense

caird coinheringaahing

That's just blu tack

But not good for sticking things

user

Tbh i use my erasers more as stress balls than erasers so that would actually be nice

Unrelated String

i don't have erasers

caird coinheringaahing

@user Pencil? Get the frick out of here with that, you heretic

user

Never seen one that thick

Radvylf Programs

03:43

@user Yeah, they're awful

Unrelated String

i can imagine

caird coinheringaahing

@user That's what she said

lyxal

→ 80 pens moved to Your Pen Is Short

7

Nobody

80

wow

Radvylf Programs

Whoa, the whole transcript fits on my screen now

Nobody

03:43

and pencil

caird coinheringaahing

@lyxal I think you'll find it's average size, and I'm not sensitive about this at all, no sir

thejonymyster

←what do people think about this, in particular about the meta

cringe or based

its ok if it sucks i have no shame :P

caird coinheringaahing

@thejonymyster petition to rename upvote/downvote to based/cringe

9

thejonymyster

in my heart that is their name already

caird coinheringaahing

@thejonymyster Check out the interactive tag, as the requirements for interactivity can be super weird

thejonymyster

03:46

oh! thank you

PyGamer0

@lyxal o_o

thejonymyster

@cairdcoinheringaahing i feel as though my challenge is pretty well specified in those regards? unless im missing something not in the tag info :0c

or maybe im just wrong in my assessment :P either way it was good to check that, ty

like i didnt specify anything quite so specific as "input yes or no" or like "input through this specific avenue" because that feels un-standard-i/o-rules-ish

should i specify whether the program has to be runnable again maybe? or whether the initial input must be prompted for mid program or not?

theres also the possibility that it isnt a good challenge, which is fine if its true

Nobody

afk brb o/

Eman yalpsid

04:40

just changed my name by linking to puzzling

I am NumberBasher which is Nobody

emanresu A

05:15

Cool esolang

Eman yalpsid

good

emanresu A

Lol

Eman yalpsid

let's learn chinese

the name is true

great name and lang

pxeger

05:41

Fun fact: }{ is valid Perl code: ato.pxeger.com/…

emanresu A

I'm scared

lyxal

no, you're emanresuA

Eman yalpsid

@pxeger doesn't work in tio

lyxal

Try it online!

what does the -n flag do?

Eman yalpsid

-n assume "while (<>) { ... }" loop around program

ahh

...

lyxal

05:47

if I had a nickel for every syntax prank I've seen in the last week I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it's happened twice.

pxeger

-n evaluates the given code for every line in STDIN

but actually, it does that by just wrapping your code in while(<>){ }

so you can just break out of the block lol

lyxal

Thank you copilot for suddenly deciding to be a polyglot

Eman yalpsid

lol

Unrelated String

i was about to google translate it but then i remembered you're here

is or isn't it complete nonsense

Eman yalpsid

06:03

@UnrelatedString makes sense

Unrelated String

amazing

Eman yalpsid

I would translate it that way too in fact

why

@UnrelatedString like why?

Unrelated String

because it got spit out of copilot lmao

Eman yalpsid

@UnrelatedString context?

wtf

Unrelated String

13 mins ago, by lyxal

Eman yalpsid

06:06

Oh, I didn't look closely

hahahaha

Jo King

@PyGamer0 sydneez nuts

5

Eman yalpsid

07:09

does new CMC still work now

new CMC

no it doesn't

!!newest

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Q: Eh, codegolf shmodegolf

This challenge is about implementing Shm-reduplication, originating in Yiddish, where one takes a word, duplicates it, and replaces the first syllable in the second word with "Shm" in order to indicate that one does not care. Some examples include: "Isn't the baby cute?", "Eh, baby shmaby" "Come...

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pxeger

09:52

→ 1 roll of greaseproof paper moved to The Nineteenth Bakery

PyGamer0

10:39

@JoKing lol

+1 advertising of vyxal done

PyGamer0

10:51

@cairdcoinheringaahing what does that mean

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Q: How many light changes will a 7-segment display need?

Problem Assume you have a single 7-segment display without a decimal point, so 7 "lines" that can be labelled A through G as seen here. This display will only show the numbers from 0 to 9 as usual, like so: Any time this display changes from one number to another, some of its lights will have t...

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