The Nineteenth Byte

Razetime

4:09 PM

you can pass multiple procs and lambdas however

user

4:29 PM

caird coinheringaahing

@user Scammers don't "continue for a laugh" :P

As soon as they realise they aren't getting any money from you, they cut their loses and look for someone they can scam

user

Interesting

@user @BrowncatPrograms This may be good advice for you when dealing with future scammers :P

caird coinheringaahing

@user Nah, you're doing it for fun, so might as well go as elaborate and grand as you can without them catching on :P

See how far you can push it

user

:P

Is that a threat? o.O

caird coinheringaahing

@user Thank god, I was annoyed I'd have to wait 50 more years :P

user

4:39 PM

ಠ_ಠ

Browncat Programs

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing Imma live exactly 50.0001 more years just to piss you off

@BrowncatPrograms This happens a lot, I think it's just people who misclick or something

caird coinheringaahing

@user That's 50 years and 52 minutes :P

user

I'm going to eat some junk food now to get a head start on that :P

caird coinheringaahing

@BrowncatPrograms I found another way for you to annoy yourself with chat messages (in addition to your pings for every message) :P

Here, you can opt into "quicker notifications" which sends replies directly into your global inbox with no 15 minute waiting period (I think) :P

Browncat Programs

4:46 PM

I've seen that before, no idea why anyone'd use it :p

pxeger

@cairdcoinheringaahing can I opt in to "no notifications"? If I miss a chat ping and then open it after 15 minutes, the inbox item stays there on all my open tabs and it really annoys me

caird coinheringaahing

I don't think so

pxeger

:/

caird coinheringaahing

5:02 PM

The short delay for chat is on the order of seconds. — Catija ♦ Dec 3 '18 at 12:56

O.o

hyper-neutrino

yet feeds still take like an hour to work :D lol

pxeger

that's just because they use plain RSS

Browncat Programs

No, even with instantly updating RSS it only checks every hour or so for changes

pxeger

There could be a special integration between chat feeds bots and SE site feeds but that seems like more effort than it would be worth from SE's perspective

@BrowncatPrograms yes, because it's not a good idea to check RSS feeds every few seconds

Browncat Programs

My dream is to build a (small) computer out of relays some day, because I really like the clicking sound, but it looks like it'd cost about $9.71 per bit (!) of storage D:

caird coinheringaahing

5:07 PM

A few times per hour (say once every 15 minutes) would work

Browncat Programs

@BrowncatPrograms You'd probably need a minimum of four 8 bit registers just to have a somewhat useful processor, and that's over $300 just for the registers themselves

And when you start adding things like an ALU and the circuitry just to move things between registers, that'd be a lot of relays, and thus a lot of money :(

(not to mention the fact that you'd probably want at least a couple dozen bytes of RAM so you can hold numbers big enough to do interesting computations on)

Although I wonder if there's more efficient combinations of relays that would give you more storage per relay

pxeger

5:43 PM

> I've just discovered you can get 850kg of gravel, delivered, all-in, door-to-door, for about £63. I'm baffled as to how anyone can afford to sell it that cheap.

this is random but wow, that is a lot of gravel for not a lot of money

reddit.com/r/AskUK/comments/piwldt/…

caird coinheringaahing

Not exactly that quantity and price, but the place I work at sells 5kg bags of grit for £0.75 each

pxeger

grit is salt, not gravel isn't it?

caird coinheringaahing

They're currently on sale, but the normal price is something like £1.49 sp ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@pxeger Its like a combination of salt and sand I think

O.o B&Q sells bags of Sharp Sand for £0.09/kg

pxeger

@cairdcoinheringaahing where on earth do you work? and how do you know the price of grit off the top of your head??

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger Garden centre, and I work on the tills, so I remember prices for some reason :P

pxeger

5:52 PM

weirdo

lol

caird coinheringaahing

My memory is weirdly good at remembering random facts :P

pxeger

yes I think you've said that before lol

My memory is weirdly good at remembering people who say "My memory is weirdly good at remembering random facts"

pxeger

codegolf.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/61832

sigh

caird coinheringaahing

It's been a while since I rejected an edit for spam/vandalism :P

user

6:44 PM

> error-correction lol

@BrowncatPrograms Solution: Become trillionaire

Browncat Programs

I just calculated it'd be about $700 for four 8-bit registers and the circuitry needed to move things around between them

Although TBF at that point bulk pricing would reduce it by quite a bit

If you go ahead and buy 230 relays, which will give you a lot of extra (since you need 144 for what I just described), the price per relay drops by 25% so you'd pay closer to $550 (not counting the extra relays)

user

@pxeger Hey, I remember pxeger saying that just now!

My memory is weirdly good at remembering people who say 'My memory is weirdly good at remembering people who say "My memory is weirdly good at remembering random facts"'

Browncat Programs

@BrowncatPrograms That's actually surprisingly low, now that I think about it

caird coinheringaahing

I'm 100% convinced my memory is literally random access memory :P

user

I'm not sure that's how RAM works, but my own memory is a corrupted hard drive anyway :P

Browncat Programs

6:55 PM

Speaking of random access memory, 256 bytes would be a convenient size for memory on a small 8 bit system, so I wonder how much that would cost

caird coinheringaahing

@user wdym, RAM is obviously entirely random and unusable :P

Browncat Programs

@BrowncatPrograms You'd need exactly 1024 relays

user

Oh, it's no wonder I did poorly in my CS class, then, Java's arrays use random access :P

Imagine using relays when you can just use pigeons

This post made by magician gang

Browncat Programs

@BrowncatPrograms Luckily in quantities that large the price drops again, so you'd only pay about $4k for the whole register + RAM module

"only"

pxeger

@user wdym? per RFC 1149, pigeons can be used as relays

user

6:57 PM

lol

caird coinheringaahing

@JanDvorak in chat it was suggested Integer[] array = (Integer[]) c.get(cache); fisherYatesShuffle(array); Just imagine how many things would break... — user12166 May 30 '14 at 17:57

user

That is so deliciously cursed :P

pxeger

@BrowncatPrograms use dekatrons instead of relays! Then you'll get ≈3.32× the memory for the same number of things

Browncat Programs

Hmm, hard to decide whether I'd like lots of clicky noises or lots of blinky lights more

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing It works even better for Bytes because all of them are cached afaik, whereas only the middle few Integers are cached

@BrowncatPrograms Both. Both is good

caird coinheringaahing

6:59 PM

@user So does Python :P

Browncat Programs

Clicky noises have the advantage of not killing me if I touch them :p

IIRC vacuum tubes run at a pretty high voltage

caird coinheringaahing

Also, monkey brain like clicky

Browncat Programs

Anyway, gtg for now

user

Monkei brain like clicky blinky

@cairdcoinheringaahing o.O Why does Python have to cache them too?

pxeger

@user because all Python ints are arbitrary-precision, they must be stored on the heap, so every new integer requires allocation. Small ints (something like -10 to 100 IIRC) are sufficiently frequently used, though, that it warrants allocating them at interpreter startup

user

7:11 PM

TIL

emanresu A

9:03 PM

Idea: What if we rehash this, but with bytes instead of characters, and maybe some different challenges?

caird coinheringaahing

Sounds like it could be an interesting idea. Different challenges could completely change it, as those aren't exactly challenges, more proof of ability

emanresu A

True

caird coinheringaahing

There's also the idea of collecting the bytes

emanresu A

Like add two numbers or count up to a number

caird coinheringaahing

That collection was done through chat, which was much more active back then. Not sure you'd get enough to make an interesting challenge tbh

emanresu A

9:06 PM

True...

Maybe a few bytes each then?

Could probably get around 20 users, so maybe 5 each?

caird coinheringaahing

I feel like there's a better way to get bytes from a more extended group of users (i.e. main), but can't think of one that works especially well

emanresu A

Aside from 11 / 12

caird coinheringaahing

A post on main would be off-topic, and posting on meta would likely just reach roughyl the same number of users as chat

emanresu A

Yeah :P

What if we just, say, took the top 50 users on main and took a random byte from each of their highest voted answers, in addition to polling people?

caird coinheringaahing

That skips users who are active now, but aren't in the top 50

For example, you :P

emanresu A

9:14 PM

Top 50 users this year then?

Also, is Jelly's codepage aligned with printable ASCII?

caird coinheringaahing

Yes

hyper-neutrino

not too sure that's even that indicative. dennis is #31 this year

caird coinheringaahing

@emanresuA Potentially, but that misses out on the community contribution side of the challenge - people got to choose which character they thought they'd be able to use the best

hyper-neutrino

also i feel like at that point we might as well just RNG the whole byte set lol

emanresu A

True

caird coinheringaahing

9:16 PM

You could go by Participation (ignoring users who don't post, like gnat), but that has the same issue as above

emanresu A

Yes...

caird coinheringaahing

I kinda want to copy @hyper-neutrino and do some Jelly explanation videos, but all my computer mics are awful :P

emanresu A

Just send hyper the transcript then and get him to do the audio!

caird coinheringaahing

At that point, I'd just write it up in the post :P

user

in C++ Questions and Answers on Stack Overflow Chat, Aug 2 '18 at 21:58, by OneRaynyDay

why is C++ such a fkd up language

emanresu A

9:21 PM

Out of context quote of the day

user

I've been grappling with it for the past couple hours and I am now bald from tearing out my hear

caird coinheringaahing

What about your hair though?

Browncat Programs

@emanresuA It's not really out of context, what context do you need for knowing C++ is bad :p

user

ಠ_ಠ My brain has been damaged

How tf do you make a typo that turns hair into hear

emanresu A

idk

caird coinheringaahing

9:23 PM

@user The levenshtein distance is only 2, that's an acceptable typo :P

Any typo with a levenshtein distance greater than the length of the intended word is unacceptable :P

hyper-neutrino

lol wut

emanresu A

Sesquipedalian hamster wheel.

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Because at that point, you've basically gotten the entire word wrong :P

emanresu A

@cairdcoinheringaahing ^^

hyper-neutrino

i mean by that logic if i just type every letter wrong that's equal levy distance to the word length soo like

even by that metric my one friend still manages to make plenty of unacceptable typos

emanresu A

9:25 PM

oeygrs.

hyper-neutrino

also you don't really need to write up a transcript and get me to do the audio, if you have particular cool jelly answers, i'd be happy to do an analysis of them and provide you a video :P it's not like i can't read jelly

caird coinheringaahing

Oysters?

emanresu A

'yes', I think.

hyper-neutrino

@emanresuA hyper voice acting career when /s

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Yeah, but I like explaining my own answers :P

And I speak much more fluently than I type

emanresu A

9:28 PM

I've already written up the explanations for codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/235072/100664, and still no one's actually properly tried to crack it.

user

@hyper-neutrino lol, I'm imagining a neutrino in a physics video going "Try Jelly! It's concise, elegant, and absolutely disgusting1"

emanresu A

(Except Wasif bruteforcing it, but that doesn't count, and he fell for one of my tricks anyway)

caird coinheringaahing

Wow, only took 3 years for someone to (publicly admit that they) bruteforce it :P

emanresu A

Oh well, I put a lot of languages in there.

hyper-neutrino

@wasif One, it's not Befunge-93 - the letters need to be ascending, and there needs to be a d and no 0x00. Two, please don't bruteforce, it's against the spirit of the challenge, and Dennis has specifically asked not to do it. — emanresu A yesterday

wait, did he? am i blind? why don't i see dennis's comment lol

caird coinheringaahing

9:34 PM

IIRC Dennis asked in chat when I first suggested the challenge, and everyone else agreed (someone else left a comment on the question saying the same thing)

emanresu A

@mbomb007 Take a look at this comment. Aside from requesting that Robbers don't brute-force, there is nothing more that we can do to prevent this behaviour unfortunately. However, I invite anyone to downvote Robbers using scripts to brute-force submissions as it contradicts the spirit of the challenge. — caird coinheringaahing Feb 8 '18 at 23:16

Important: Please be nice to TIO and don't just (write a script or manually) test all of the languages there. TIO is very busy already. — DELETE_ME Feb 7 '18 at 11:37

caird coinheringaahing

I will say: leave it to CGCC to find a way to ruin the fun of a challenge

hyper-neutrino

ah ok

caird coinheringaahing

I've had to abandon a lot of fun challenge ideas because I know some smart-ass is going to turn around and find the "best" answer that is as dull as rocks, because someone always has to win here

user

Why abandon them just because someone might do that? It might be fun for others anyway, even if they don't win

caird coinheringaahing

9:38 PM

Because people don't like popularity-contests here, and will downvote them no matter what

It's no fun writing a challenge if I know a large portion of people will dislike it, simply because it fits into one of many categories

user

:(

emanresu A

I downvote 'do this creatively' popcons

Also:

3

A: Let's rise higher

7. Keg, 4,376,598 bytes, 2,157,610 distinct bytes, Score: 3697321176253, My total score: 3697321192720 You can find the source code here Don't even bother trying it online. This uses everything in unicode except the bytes \n BCDEGHLMNPSTUVaceghiklmnoprstuv, so the next person to answer is going t...

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing Considering the rep and reputation you have, that might be less of a problem

caird coinheringaahing

I don't care about the rep

user

I know, I'm saying people will be less likely to downvote one of your posts because of your (SE) reputation and your reputation as a sensible member of CGCC

caird coinheringaahing

9:40 PM

I don't just write challenges so that people can enjoy writing an answer, I write them because I genuinely enjoy seeing people come up with crazy good answers. Unfortunately, most of the ideas I have for challenges that could produce those answers would also produce 15 people FGITWing the most boring, least-effort answer

user

But it'd be worth it if you had 15 people taking the time to write interesting, clever answers

emanresu A

Like the programming language quiz resulted in lots of clever, obfuscated and carefully polyglotted answers.

user

^

Even if it had lots of low-quality answers, it was worth it

emanresu A

Like this one

caird coinheringaahing

And is still has a "Please don't brute force guys" black cloud hanging over it

emanresu A

9:44 PM

They made a file that was a valid assembly program and a valid program in both Brainloller and Piet.

If that's not impressive, I don't kno what is.

It also resulted in this though

caird coinheringaahing

Idk, I don't have much faith in this community as a whole to set aside that "need" to produce an answer that "technically" wins, but is literally so uninteresting that everyone else has immediately disregarded it. I think code-golf is a massive driver of that, because it instils the mindset of "if it isn't the best, it isn't good", and that we could do with bringing back popularity-contest

Unfortunately, I know that as soon as we relax those rules, there's going to be a huge flood of shitty, VLQ pop-cons which are basically "Do X but creatively" and I'd rather be frustrated that I can't write the challenges I want than have this site undergo a flood of VLQ

emanresu A

Yes :(

Maybe some more stuff like codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/224562/…?

caird coinheringaahing

Hmm

user

Nah

That was a mistake

emanresu A

No

It was fun

user

9:49 PM

Looking back, half my questions were mistakes

caird coinheringaahing

It was fun. It wasn't a good challenge

emanresu A

side to side, side, side to side
Oh-u-Oh-u-Oh Oh-u-Oh-u-Oh-u I'm falling
Don we now our gay apparel, Fa la la la la la la la la
The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round
It won't be long yeah (yeah), yeah (yeah), yeah (yeah)
So catchy, catchy, it's such a catchy song
Please don't be long (don't be long)
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
(Galileo) Galileo, (Galileo) Galileo, Galileo Figaro Magnifico-o-o-o-o
99 bottles of beer on the wall, 99 bottles of beer
No, you can't. Yes, I can. No, you can't. Yes, I can. No, you can't. Yes, I can, Yes, I can!

user

@emanresuA The scoring was messed up, and the "songs" created were pretty boring

emanresu A

We created ^^ at least

user

> Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

emanresu A

9:50 PM

Yeah, I was bored.

caird coinheringaahing

My aim is to write a challenge that is fun, produces almost exclusively interesting answers, is a good challenge, and don't rely on any "hacky workarounds" to get there

Even if it takes me 1000 challenges to get there :P

emanresu A

I don't know why I did all my answers in Splinter, of all languages.

I suppose it's more interesting than JS, which was the only other language I knew at the time

Any of the deadfishes would just be me pasting stuff into my metagolfer :p

Although by the end, my answers were actually shorter than the song, something I find quite impressive.

caird coinheringaahing

Looking through my challenges, I can honestly say that I'm disappointed in all of them. Either they're uninteresting challenges, they ultimately produced uninteresting answers, or they didn't get anywhere near the attention I believe they should've

emanresu A

Programming language quiz was good tho

caird coinheringaahing

It wasn't original, and I had to ask people to not do the boring thing because I knew someone would

emanresu A

9:55 PM

codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/162093/… could've been good if it was easier.

caird coinheringaahing

Hmm

emanresu A

Someone added a string literal, and then someone else added a print instruction

caird coinheringaahing

@cairdcoinheringaahing Not sure I would upvote any of my questions

I don't think I'd downvote many (though there are a couple I would), but unless I answered them, I don't think I'd upvote them

emanresu A

Frankly, I think the language itself was too complex - if you guys had built in all the literals and some basic math / string / array functions and made it stack-based, it could be quite poggers...

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing All of them?!

caird coinheringaahing

9:57 PM

Yeah

Pretty sad statement for someone with 139 questions, huh? :P

user

I personally quite enjoy most of your challenges (the ones I can understand, at least). Sure, you have a few that are just "Implement this cool sequence," but most of those are still interesting imo

emanresu A

codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/224365/implement-minceraft was popular, but attracted a bunch of duplicate answers.

A lot of new users answered it though

I'm not sure whether that's a good thing or a bad thing

caird coinheringaahing

@user I think most of them are interesting enough to post, but not interesting enough to upvote

This is probably the question that pissed me off the most with answerers here

Actually, scratch that, I found a way more abusive solution: eval. The four distinct inputs just define functions which format the four shapes. @cairdcoinheringaahing, I recommend scoring as length(code)+length(indicators); or restrict indicator to one character. — GammaFunction Oct 26 '19 at 12:53

That feels like something someone would try to pull back in 2014, and is exactly what I mean when I say that people here are too obsessed with the "best" solution, damned to the rules/spirit of the challenge

emanresu A

CMQ: Longest handwritten code-golf answer?

Mine's codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/230069/100664

Wheat Wizard

Add a language to a polyglot isn't code-golf but it is huge and certainly handwritten.

caird coinheringaahing

10:04 PM

The current program for that takes up 50% of the post limit IIRC :P

I'm guessing Community raises an auto-flag on any new answer to that?

emanresu A

@WheatWizard True lol.

It's pretty incredible

Although stasoid's probably the only person on the planet who understands it

Wheat Wizard

No stasoid certainly doesn't understand it.

I don't think anyone has understood the thing since like 30.

It's too complex for any one person to understand and it really isn't needed.

caird coinheringaahing

stasoid definitely understands how the programs interact with each other enough to add new languages, but I doubt they understand the whole thing

Wheat Wizard

The biggest obstacle to actually adding anything new right now is testing every single language.

There are half a dozen I can't run on my computer or TIO.

I would love to add another but It's not really possible for me.

emanresu A

I guess you sort of understand where everything can go - like, "This part is commented out for Perl, Ruby, all the Pythons - so the next thing won't interact with those - the IPs for all the 2D langs will never come here - This part is made invisible by the CSS, so it's fine - etcetera, etcetera.

Wheat Wizard

10:12 PM

You don't even really have to. Just make your change and then see what breaks. This knowledge helps since it allows you to make a more informed choices for language and starting, but it is surprisingly possible to work on it with no prior knowledge

9

A: Compute the Median

Brain-Flak, 914 + 1 = 915 bytes ([]){({}[()]<(([])<{({}[()]<([([({}<(({})<>)<>>)<><({}<>)>]{}<(())>)](<>)){({}())<>}{}({}<><{}{}>){{}<>(<({}<({}<>)<>>)<>({}<>)>)}{}({}<>)<>>)}{}<>{}>[()]){({}[()]<({}<>)<>>)}{}<>>)}{}([]<(()())>(<>))<>{(({})){({}[()])<>}{}}{}<>([{}()]{}<(())>){((<{}{}([[]]()){({}()()

@emanresuA I think this is mine.

emanresu A

Wow nice

@WheatWizard True. That's partly what I did for codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/155018/… :p

caird coinheringaahing

@WheatWizard Don't you have one that was larger than the observable universe, but then you golfed it down a bunch? Or was that not hand-written?

emanresu A

Also, you should probably edit that to 914 bytes

(Flagno)

Wheat Wizard

I'll make that change if I have another thing to edit into it.

@cairdcoinheringaahing That was my quine.

emanresu A

Also, what if we rehashed it, but in the style of codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/224562/…? I.e. there's not just one thread, two or more people can chain off the same answer with different languages. It might work better if we say you can only chain off answers that are less than a day old or something... That way if there's something really hard to chain off of, it can be skipped.

caird coinheringaahing

10:23 PM

@emanresuA rehashed what?

The time capsule one?

emanresu A

No, polygot

Also, how did you reply to that?

Wheat Wizard

I'd be happy to just rehash add a language to a polyglot, no changes needed.

I'd love to see how things would evolve with some different initial choices.

emanresu A

True. V would be painful to polyglot

caird coinheringaahing

@emanresuA Reply to what?

Wheat Wizard

e.g. Lua is something we've never been able to add.

emanresu A

10:25 PM

You replied to a message in front of your one.

caird coinheringaahing

Try refreshing :P

emanresu A

shouldiblamecaching.com

Wheat Wizard

@emanresuA V is like the second answer on the existing one?

emanresu A

@WheatWizard Yes

caird coinheringaahing

@emanresuA Nah, editing a message can do that

emanresu A

10:26 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing Oh

shouldiblamesechat.com

caird coinheringaahing

Yes

Always

emanresu A

shouldiregisterthatdomain.com

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino If you want to, this is the explanation I wanted to do a video for :P

emanresu A

Losing to osabie. sadge.

It is a string challenge tho :p

caird coinheringaahing

Plus it involves handling two bits of data, which stack based languages can just dump to the stack and forget about until later

I don't know Vyxal well, but I'm pretty sure that both Vyxal and 05AB1E dump a whole bunch to the stack to deal with them separately, then recombine at the end, right?

emanresu A

10:31 PM

One moment

@WheatWizard can we output the tuple backwards?

Ok, after trying to understand what wasif is doing, it's actually dumping stuff to the register.

He can save two bytes by dumping it to the stack tho

Neil

@cairdcoinheringaahing As in, it's random as to whether you actually get to access any of it? Mine feels the same...

emanresu A

My memory's in various servers around the world. It'll last forever, so, uh, what was I saying again?

Who wants to bully their browser?

(Blame Lyxal for that one)

Bubbler

11:03 PM

Achievement "Revolutionize History (Jelly)" (20,000pts): Outgolf Dennis in Jelly in a non-trivial way

emanresu A

That is ingenious

How long did you work on that for?

caird coinheringaahing

Very nice :P

Bubbler

@emanresuA An hour, maybe?

caird coinheringaahing

One thing to point out: neither þ nor œi existed in 2016 :P

emanresu A

adds multidimensional index to Vyxal

Bubbler

11:05 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing I guessed so, but at least it isn't simple built-in substitution :P

caird coinheringaahing

@Bubbler Oh yeah, it's still an impressive answer, regardless of that :P

I always find myself a little bit prouder if I can outgolf Dennis in Jelly using builtins that existed at the time, that's all :P

And I think that ' would have done the same thing as þ

emanresu A

CMC: Add two numbers without using builtins.

caird coinheringaahing

RFL in Jelly, takes [a, b]

emanresu A

No, all of those are builtins!

caird coinheringaahing

ಠ_ಠ

emanresu A

11:09 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing What language is that in?

caird coinheringaahing

esolangs.org/wiki/%E0%B2%A0_%E0%B2%A0

Neil

@Bubbler hmm, now you've got me thinking that it should be possible to do that with regex

anyway, cancer surgery tomorrow, wish me luck (but I don't want the pings please)

caird coinheringaahing

Good luck, hope it goes well

7

Bubbler

@emanresuA (almost) Every language needs some built-in for arithmetic (even an add instruction in machine code, as well as all other instructions, is a built-in). If you ban ALL built-ins, you end up with something like untyped lambda calculus with weird encodings of stuff

emanresu A

@Bubbler I'm joking

feel free to 'you're not joking' me

Bubbler

11:13 PM

@emanresuA At least I can answer in untyped lambda calculus: \m n f x.m f(n f x)

caird coinheringaahing

@emanresuA yOu'Re NoT jOkInG, yOu'Re EmAnReSu A

emanresu A

But f is a builtin, right?

Bubbler

No, it's just a variable name

emanresu A

Oh

I see

caird coinheringaahing

Arguably, function application is a builtin

emanresu A

11:14 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing I have got got.

Bubbler

@cairdcoinheringaahing :P

emanresu A

ಠ益ಠ

caird coinheringaahing

@emanresuA You have been gotten got

Bubbler

I just noticed that a regular TIO gives "Try it online!", Vyxal interpreter gives "Try it Online!", and Hyper's JHT gives "Try It Online!"

Unrelated String

when's "try it online!"

caird coinheringaahing

11:17 PM

Japt's uses "Try it here!" IIRC

emanresu A

!(trY iT onlinE)

caird coinheringaahing

@OldSandboxPosts That message got OSP the Outspoken badge :P

emanresu A

@cairdcoinheringaahing Are you proud of it?

caird coinheringaahing

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

emanresu A

Wait, isn't it running on hyper's server?

caird coinheringaahing

11:19 PM

OSP? No, it's on Redwolf's

emanresu A

Oh lo;

That is a very redwolf thing to say

caird coinheringaahing

I was trying to figure out how OSP got Talkative, as I thought that was it's first starred message. Then I realised user went on a star spam in the Testing room :P

@emanresuA The sand thing?

emanresu A

Yes

@cairdcoinheringaahing Oh lol

caird coinheringaahing

It may be hosted on Redwolf's server, but I still have the login details for it :P

Of course, that message was 100% posted by OSP becoming sentient for a fraction of a second, not me pretending to be it :P

emanresu A

@cairdcoinheringaahing Oh lol

What is its password?

caird coinheringaahing

11:23 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

:P

emanresu A

Wait seriously?

caird coinheringaahing

(it's not, btw. I'm not giving out the login details for my chatbot :P)

emanresu A

:(

caird coinheringaahing

Especially as OSP is - I think - the first bot to be explicitly granted permission to be here :P

emanresu A

@Bubbler DSO has no permalinking :P

I'm bored, but not bored enough to do work.

caird coinheringaahing

11:31 PM

That's the sweet spot, often called "Code Golfer's Boredom" :P

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Bubbler

Lol, I often suffer from that too :P

lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing wait you actually call it something?

I just call it procrastination

emanresu A

codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/53196/100664

user

@lyxal ikr

Imagine being not bored enough to name your state of being creatively

This post made by too bored and tired to burn your laptop gang

emanresu A

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Q: Inject Textual Rickrolls

Because rickrolling is the greatest meme on Earth, you [know the rules and so do I] are to write the shortest code that can textually rickroll the unsuspecting reader. Let [you down] there be an input text which contains letters, punctuation, and spaces. Anytime a [lie and hurt you] phrase from...

caird coinheringaahing

11:40 PM

@lyxal Sometimes, I'll be bored enough to give it a name :P

lyxal

I've been bored enough to refresh the covid vaccine booking page for an hour trying to get an earlier appointment to no avail

And I actually mean a whole hour

caird coinheringaahing

Speaking of, I got my second vaccination today, so I'm officially immortal :P

lyxal

Lucky

I can't get my first until the 4th of October

Bubbler

Congrats

I got my first last week

emanresu A

@cairdcoinheringaahing I've got my first, I have to wait six weeks for the second, and I'm going back to school on Thursday.

caird coinheringaahing

11:49 PM

Say what you will about all the covid f-ups done by the UK, but the vaccination rollout here has been impressive

lyxal

Y'all living in countries that actually have decent vaccination programs

Bubbler

More like half-decent but somehow working

lyxal

I assume y'all'ven't had to deal with "priority group" nonsense

caird coinheringaahing

@emanresuA I start uni (rather, I start a week-long pub crawl that counts as an "introduction week") in 14 days, which is the recommended period of time from vaccine to full effectiveness :P

@lyxal Yes, but months ago

emanresu A

I only became eligible to get it last week :p

Bubbler

11:51 PM

@lyxal Also yes until last few months or two weeks ago, depending on whether you consider age groups as priority groups

caird coinheringaahing

Interesting, we have 5 different users for the top rep earner for each period (week, month, quarter, year, all time)

emanresu A

I'm quarter

lyxal

@lyxal what's funny is that there's always this one appointment on the 27th of October at 11:30am which no one ever takes

Bubbler

I'm none

caird coinheringaahing

@cairdcoinheringaahing Wait, no, only on the leagues page

user

11:53 PM

@lyxal I live in a country with a pretty good vaccination program but idiots who refuse to get the vaccine :(

caird coinheringaahing

I'm top for month and year on codegolf.stackexchange.com/users?tab=Reputation

Oh right, the leagues update the same time as SEDE, once a week on Sundays

@lyxal Why?

emanresu A

I just did a test run of my rickroll-inserting program and:

we're [no stra [full commi [just wanna tell you how 'm feelng]tment's wht i [just wanna tell you how 'm feelng]'m thi [just wanna tell you how 'm feelng]nki [just wanna tell you how 'm feelng]ng of]ngers to love] no [stra [full commi [just wanna tell you how 'm feelng]tment's wht i [just wanna tell you how 'm feelng]'m thi [just wanna tell you how 'm feelng]nki [just wanna tell you how 'm feelng]ng of]ngers to love]

lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing idk

It's even funnier because I saw that there's was an appointment on the same day at 8.30am instead, and it got snapped up instantly

emanresu A

Take the 11:30am one tehn :P

lyxal

Heck no

emanresu A

11:56 PM

The ghosts aren't as bad as they sound, and there's only a small chance of bear attacks.

user

@lyxal Why not?

lyxal

I didn't reroll the appointments page for an hour just to sacrifice my 4th of October appointment

emanresu A

Oh lol

CMC: Type a random positive integer in chat. Smallest that no one else enters wins.

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lyxal

My headcanon is that the person giving the vaccination at the 11.30am appointment is a real jerk, and everyone knows that, so they avoid getting that appointment

emanresu A

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Go!

lyxal

11:57 PM

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caird coinheringaahing

@Catija Do you know how the Community Ads project is going? There's nothing mentioned about it in the Q3 timeline, and this sort of, kind of mentions Q2/Q3 being the target?

emanresu A

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