The Nineteenth Byte

12:01 AM

@mınxomaτ Does this require modifying the kernel directly or is there a supported mechanism for inventing syscalls?

12:56 AM

Poll: do you wear glasses/contacts?

@mınxomaτ brilliant

1:11 AM

@Downgoat huh, I'm the first no

quartata

do nightvision gogles count

Anonymous

1:33 AM

Somehow one of my coworkers' PHP error log is 141 GB... These logs are truncated daily

Anonymous

I would struggle to make 141 GB of PHP errors in one day on purpose...

mudkip201

o.o

@quartata if you wear those when working yes

quartata

@Downgoat but theyre not "prescription"

@quartata can you work without them

(Effectively work)

Anonymous

1:44 AM

@quartata "prescription night vision goggles" was an unfortunately unrewarding search

quartata

@Downgoat am i outside

@Mego you just glue the lens on

save money

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3:24 AM

Why are java generics so bad

Why are java lambdas so bad

I think someone at Sun looked at C++ templates and thought
"Man, these error messages are so bad that it'll be worth completely gutting the functionality of our own generics to avoid that nonsense"

4:15 AM

Mathematica, in it's quest to have a builtin for everything, has a Minecraft API

Sherlock9

Oh that is magnificent

4:39 AM

@quartata have you used selenium/behave before

Sherlock9

I have used Selenium very briefly before, but I don't know if I remember enough to help if you have questions

I went into chrome://flags, clicked on random buttons, and I'm not sure I recognize this browser anymore.

@Sherlock9 just curious on if it's a good idea to push forward with selenium for frontend tests. How was your general experience using it?

Sherlock9

It was alright, but I didn't use it for long because I wasn't on that project for long

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6:32 AM

@Pavel Nah, I'm building the kernel from source :)

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ASCII-only

8:34 AM

@Pavel well it's not very hard to create new bindings. especially if it's Mathematica of all things

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user202729

9:42 AM

@Pavel well I suppose C has it too. (otherwise how could Mathematica implement it)

@Pavel What's wrong with lambda?

Blue

The capacity to do it is not the same as having it as a builtin for it

user202729

It's not really a built-in. It's a package.

ASCII-only

9:58 AM

@user202729 language interop

Neil

@ASCII-only any idea why this crashes?

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1:45 PM

@Downgoat um, why do only 2 in 5 people not have vision issues

Dennis

More than 6 in 10 people wear glasses or contact lenses

betseg

uhhhh

@Dennis let's make people believe we're a good sample just to mess up with a survey regarding programming

Dennis

The problem with these polls is that they're voluntary. Most TNB users who don't need glasses probably don't care enough to vote.

AdmBorkBork

Somehow my mouse cursor got flipped horizontally and it's kinda freaking me out.

1:54 PM

^^ isn't the problem really that votes can be fake? ...

uh, are you using M$ Offi¢€?

because that horizontal flip is actually a thing, not just a bug

Dennis

Of course people can lie in polls, but I'd expect selection bias to be far more common.

anyone any good at algorithms 101?

AdmBorkBork

Oh weird, it was actually only in my PowerShell ISE window. Closing and reopening fixed it. Very strange.

can H=[17, 17, 16, 14, 15, 5, 13, 11, 13, 12, 14, 8, 7] be a valid binary max-heap?

caird coinheringaahing

2:22 PM

@Mego Thanks!

maybe too much like homework? :)

2:51 PM

@Anush what do you think

@Poke I am hoping yes

but I wanted to check

is this for a class you're taking?

why are you hoping yes? is this the result of a script you wrote?

how would you define a binary max heap

no I just set myself an exercise to try to learn about these things

I was using this definition en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_heap

> Heaps where the parent key is greater than or equal to (≥) the child keys are called max-heaps

So if you organize your example into a binary tree structure, does that hold?

I think so but I wanted a second set of eyes

3:11 PM

that's one way to arrange it, i suppose

nice!

but it doesn't work....

now you have confused me :)

my example shows that it is not a valid binary max heap

because 5 is not greater than or equal to its children

theoretically your list is not the order of the nodes, though

so /me shrugs

@mınxomaτ Is the Windows kernel open source?

@user202729 C does not have an equivalent of the MinecraftConnect function

@Pavel hmm.. thanks

@user202729 The type inference on the lambda arguments, when using them with generic functional interfaces, is godawful.

Adám

3:27 PM

@Pavel Doesn't mınxomaτ work for Microsoft?

3:39 PM

sees somebody type out "mınxomaτ" outside of ping

4:01 PM

@Adám I didn't know that

@Adám I don't believe so

Me neither. (I don't).

I'm pretty sure he works for a security company

I think so.

You think so but you're not sure? :P

4:03 PM

Ok, so if you don't work at Microsoft, how do you build the Windows kernel from source?

I have the source. Or at least the part I need to build the base kernel modules.

Well, let us know when you're done with that

@DJMcMayhem No I am. This week has been more spreadsheet wizardry than coding. We are in the middle of a complete software audit. You, where you get questions like: "Where's the catalog of copied StackOverflow snippets used anywhere in the codebase with timestamps, attribution and a diff for the original version vs. the current usage".

That sounds fun

@Pavel I shall.

@Pavel Yeah, I totally don't feel the sudden urge to punch everyone at the auditing company.

The way this works is: Technical analyst at auditor asks a good, straight to the point question -> non-technical person at auditor twists it into legal speak (beyond recognition, sometimes the result is self-contradicting) -> I have to deal with it and bother everyone about code they may or may not have adapted from SO like 8 years ago...

4:11 PM

Why do guys care about code copied from SO, anyway?

If an investor kicks off a potential M&A process, they usually blow a few tens of thousands of dollars on software audits so that, from a legal standpoint, the actual IP of the company is squeaky clean. That means every line of code, every npm or nuget package has to have a license accounted for or must be written entirely by the company. This entails rewriting everything that doesn't have a "good" (in legal terms) license, most prominently GPL stuff.

Here's an example: blackducksoftware.com

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Nathan Merrill

7:04 PM

@Downgoat I've used selenium a lot. I think it's great if you want full, round-trip testing. I think that it's often overkill for stuff, but if you want it, I think it's a great product

Q: Who can get more points? (Card game KoTH)

7:42 PM

We've recently adapted testcafe for (some) frontend tests. Also a very good tool.

wwwhat the hell chrome

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Addison Crump

8:09 PM

It's good to come back and see that the site still doesn't have a graduated layout yet

@mınxomaτ aw i could have filed that bug... I noticed it around 10am this morning