The Nineteenth Byte

happy (real) new year :)

CMC: Output "2018" (not code-golf, looking for nice techniques (excluding hardcoding), just like a bad pop-con :P)

@Mr.Xcoder ߢ? Name of the letter kind-of sounds like "New Year": NYA.

@Adám ‽

It is weird seeing "Dec 13 '17" on posts, given that it's 8 hours away where I am.

12:08 AM

@Doorknob Yes.

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Is there a star related hat or something btw

not super interesting, but sure looks neat

@Pavel Yes. If you get anything starred on New Year's Day, you get a hat.

@Mr.Xcoder APL: (⍕∘⌊∘*∘⌊∘○,∘⍕+⍨∘⌈∘○∘*)≡⍬

@Mr.Xcoder ∊⍕¨+⍨(⌈,⌊)○○~⍴⍬

12:13 AM

@cairdcoinheringaahing Neat. Can I have a star pls?

@Pavel Read Mego's pinned message. Sorry :/

Aww

Back, and @MartinEnder's code looks like APL Boxed Output

It's Funciton

@MartinEnder What does it do?

12:16 AM

it's just a number literal, but those area treated as base-2^21-encoded Unicode when being printed

the linebreaks in the number are arbitrary

Happy New Year to the UTC timezone peeps.

@Mr.Xcoder "~,+"*+.@

@JamesHolderness Huh?

dzaima

@Mr.Xcoder $("body")[0].innerHTML=$("body")[0].innerHTML.replace(/^[^]+Output "(.{4})"[^]+$/, "$1")

@Adám basically '+'.ord * ','.ord + '~'.ord

@Adám That was for Mr.Xcoder's CMC.

12:25 AM

@Mr.Xcoder Rust: Try it online!

This is iterator abuse.

@Mr.Xcoder Python, Try it online!

@Mr.Xcoder and now without the unprintable one ;)

@Mr.Xcoder {⎕←⍵,⍺}/{⍞←⍵ ⋄ ⍕≢⍞}¨'Happy New Year Two' 'Thousand & Eighteen!'

Dang, got 2014 and 2017

Neil

12:42 AM

@Adám Batch, 15 bytes: @echo %date:~6%

@MartinEnder Challenge accepted!

nice work :)

Thanks :-)

1:00 AM

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO UTC-1 !

Yay

(Which is basically no one)

@Zacharý There must be some people on Cape Verde celebrating.

Oh, forgot about them. I just saw that bit of Greenland ...

I was just going to say, it looks like Greenland too.

And Wikipedia also lists the Azores.

1:11 AM

A small part of Greenland is in UTC, another in UTC-1, and the rest in UTC-3

Oh, and a smaller portion in UTC-4

Greenlands time zones are WEIRD

Interesting. Never really thought of it as spanning that wide an area.

The UTC one is not near UTC territory.

Maybe that part of the country has been invaded by the Queen and she just declared it to be UK time there.

Then Canada invaded too (UTC-4)?

That's right. Blame Canada.

1:26 AM

Time in Antarctica

Antarctica sits on every line of longitude, due to the South Pole being situated near the middle of the continent. Theoretically Antarctica would be located in all time zones; however, areas south of the Antarctic Circle experience extreme day-night cycles near the times of the June and December solstices, making it difficult to determine which time zone would be appropriate. For practical purposes time zones are usually based on territorial claims; however, many stations use the time of the country they are owned by or the time zone of their supply base (e.g. McMurdo Station and Amundsen–Scott...

That makes Greenland look weak

LyricLy

Stand in the center of Antarctica, run around in a circle and enjoy a trip through three different time zones.

That would only be UTC+13, no?

1:57 AM

A few more minutes until UTC-2's new year! (Basically no one again)

HAPPY NEW YEAR UTC-2 !

One hour until Dennis celebrates

*Two

2:42 AM

Wait... the timestamp on the right corner of messages are in UTC? Yes...

Also... [re the pinned message] SE chat has kick feature?

They're UTC for me, but I would have thought they're just your local timezone.

And yes, SE chat has a kick feature. And some kind of ban I think.

How'd you not know that

There are a lot of things I don't know.

Case in point: I have no idea why I'm still awake.

So I think I'm going to go now. Goodnight everyone.

THe one thing you do know: Befunge

CMC: For all words that are longer than 2 characters, and only the first 2 characters are capitalized, fix itso that only the first character capitalized. Except for IDs.

@Zacharý (to fix your message)

(basically Microsoft Word autocorrect)

Q: Riffle shuffle a string - Cops

2:56 AM

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Robbers post A riffle shuffle is a way of shuffling cards where the deck is split into 2 roughly equal sections and the sections are riffled into each other in small groups. This is how to riffle shuffle a string: Split the string into equal sections. Reverse the string, and starting from the ...

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Q: Riffle shuffle a string - Robbers

Cops post A riffle shuffle is a way of shuffling cards where the deck is split into 2 roughly equal sections and the sections are riffled into each other in small groups. This is how to riffle shuffle a string: Split the string into equal sections. Reverse the string, and starting from the sta...

string random cops-and-robbers

3:10 AM

Happy belated new year UTC-2 !

@user202729 Eh?

Example test case: "THe" -> "The"

20 mins ago, by Zacharý

THe one thing you do know: Befunge

Q: how to make a online automated serial system for a clinic?Please let me know in details!

-2

which programming language is easier to make this type of application! is possible with java? I just have a idea! i know core java,php but not in advance! but i want to do something like serial app! please help me guys!

java functional-programming php

New Bounties With No Deadlines

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A: List of bounties with no deadline

400 reputation for an answer to Paint Starry Night that takes top place without built-in compression The bounty will be awarded to the first answer that takes first place (i.e. lowest score) without using an off-the-shelf compression routine. I'll award it even if it's immediately beaten by anot...

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

3:25 AM

I held shift too long, okay?

New Sandboxed Posts

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We Had A Question Once Which Only Failed On Sundays code-golf error-message date Inspired by We had a unit test once which only failed on Sundays, write a program or function that does nothing but throw an error on Sunday, and exit gracefully on any other day. Rules: No input, output through...

@NewMainPosts That stayed open for way too long. Guess not many people are awake/active. I wonder why...?

Now let's VTD it.

CMC: Output this. You may use any three distinct characters instead of a, b, and c. Optional trailing newline.

3:46 AM

@ConorO'Brien cyclic tag much?

collatz sequence in cyclic tag?

nope

close, however

[18, 9, 14, 7, 11, 17, 26, 13, 20, 10, 5, 8, 4, 2, 1]

close to collatz sequence

7->11
9->14
11->17
13->20
17->26

x -> (3x+1)/2

it is collatz sequence!

it is

then why you said it isn't lol

it's not cyclic tag :P

3:53 AM

it is

it's even on wikipedia

alright, it isn't cyclic

it's a 2-tag system, not cyclic tag :P

yes, you're right

Pyth, 28 bytes: j.u+ttN@c"aaa bc a")ChN*18\a

nice challenge

thank you

@LeakyNun fascinating answer. is N a function? I'm not very fluent in pyth, but it seems to be like that.

(at least, defined to be a function within the program)

To @Dennnis: HAPPY NEW YEAR!
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One 'n' too many it seems lol

4:02 AM

@ConorO'Brien ah, nice guess, but completely off

@Zacharý You have one redundant n

pyth is prefix

j means join the following with newlines

.u takes +ttN@c"aaa bc a")ChN and *18\a as input

it's the cumulative fixed-point operator

+ttN@c"aaa bc a")ChN is a function in N

so N is the argument as it were

tt implements the tag number (2), and @ index the codepoint of the first character into the production array. Fascinating.

@user202729 Too @Dennis, HAPPY BELATED NEW YEAR!

4:17 AM

@ConorO'Brien right

5:05 AM

happy new year from the US east coast!

LegionMammal978

Welp, it's Monday, January 1, 2018 in EST

mudkip201

happy new year!

Qwerp-Derp

5:49 AM

Fêtons !

^ (Does this work as "let's party"?)

6:26 AM

happy CST new year :D

7:51 AM

I've been in 2018 for almost 11 hours and it's been nothing but cold. Conclusion: global warming ends in 2018.

6

I have one minute until New Years in my time zone!

Qwerp-Derp

30 seconds now ^

HAPPY NEW YEARS!

(To everybody in my time zone)

Happy New Years everyone. Here's hoping for a good year this time.

8:11 AM

So apparently Valve will VAC anyone in Linux with a username starting with "catbot" (a TF2 server flooding bot name or something is catbot) without any other checks. Catbots just changed their name but VAC still bans anyone with the name catbot. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues/2475

8:30 AM

further issue reports on this may result in being banned from the Valve Software issue trackers.

TanMath

9:19 AM

Doing my duty and helping people get hats (at least that's what I think!) HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Why is this place empty?? Usually there's always somebody here!

Cuz I def came to get a star! :P

18 hours ago, by Mego

To reiterate: abusing SE systems to get hats is not okay. If you post starbait/nonsense to try to get a hat, you will be kicked.

um

Dec 3 '17 at 23:26, by Mego

> Sometimes, there isn't anybody talking in chat. That's perfectly fine. Don't send messages just because the room is quiet.

TanMath

@user202729 lol I was joking it's been a while since I have came and I always love to comment how active this chatroom is so yeah...

@betseg ...

@cairdcoinheringaahing I don't know about you, but at least for me, 2017 was an excellent year.

Hello mith! o/

hiya

9:42 AM

Hi

@TanMath If you'd like to post messages just to get a star/hat, please go to this room.

@Mr.Xcoder

Sorry, wrong content

yesterday, by user202729

@WheatWizard @Mr.Xcoder How is that similar? I don't understand...?

Oh, I seem to have overlooked your first ping. Will respond as soon as I get to my laptop, on mobile

9:59 AM

@user202729 So, "Convex Hull of a set of 2D point" was asking the submissions to return the coordinates of the vertices of the smallest convex set that contains the given points. "Maximum Area of a Polygon with Vertices of a Polygon" asked us to find the area of Polygon with its vertices equal to the given set of points. The differences are quite small IMO

Uh...? The "all subsets of size" and "area" are new parts. And you are not required to find the convex hull, too.

Although I agree that computing the area might be a significant enough difference, while obtaining the Polygon and the Convex Hull can be done similarly (I think).

If other users would reopen, I wouldn't hammer, because there are some differences. Not sure, but the challenges are closely related

Q: Maximum Area of a Polygon with Vertices of a Polygon

Convex hull = Graham sorting algorithm (by normal algorithm), while for this I can't think of any other method other than brute force.

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Rules Given a list of integer coordinates, l, with a length of at least 4, and an integer n such that n is smaller than the length of l (but at least 3), return the largest area of an n-gon (n-sided polygon) that has all the coordinates of its n vertices in the list l. No three vertices should b...

code-golf math geometry

^ The challenge, for reference.

@DJMcMayhem Not even counting personal issues, things such as the terror increase, racism increase, sexual assault increase and the presidential disaster (just my opinion on him), it's been a pretty bad year, considering.

Most existing algorithms are using "gift wrapping algorithm" (if that's correct), which can't be ported to the new challenge.

10:08 AM

Idk, my opinion is not so strong but I still tend to agree with Peter.

I am pretty sure that he would explain his reasoning much better than I can.

@user202729 no, that's not what I mean at all - I think we've missed each others' meaning at some point above, I'm not sure where. Regarding writing a new Python library for a challenge, no, that would not be allowed on any PPCG challenge as far as I know. (If it doesn't come under one of the standard loopholes it should do.) — Nathaniel 11 mins ago

^ What do you think? (the latter point)

It's allowed

You just have to say "Python + non-standard module" as your answer.

Yeah but designing a module for a specific challenge is a standard loophole

Not for that specific challenge, it can be for data compression in general. Dictionary compression to compress text is really common.

That's allowed.

10:14 AM

@cairdcoinheringaahing I think most of those (other than the president) are simply hot topics. Sexual assault hasn't increased, just the awareness of it (which is a good thing). I'm skeptical that terrorism has increased without numbers, and racism is simply something that can't be quantified. Yeah, there have been lots of high-profile racially charged protests, but that doesn't mean there is more racism in the world then there was before this year.

But, I suppose that's opening a can of worms, and totally off-topic for this room.

Either way, I hope you have an excellent 2018 :)

@DJMcMayhem You too! :)

Do anyone get "loading" text when click at vote score? (to get +/- details)

Let's just hope for the best for the year to come :)

@user202729 No, I don't.

It disappeared for me too, no idea why.

@DJMcMayhem globally terrorism deaths are rising

10:19 AM

Sorry to be that person, but link?

@Downgoat off-topic!

(I know off-topic isn't explicitly forbidden, but still...)

@user202729 Are we ever on-topic?

Sometimes, Parenting.SE need to stop asking strangers how to raise their kids, and just be a normal parent

@Mr.Xcoder around ~20 messages per day are on topic :P

or maybe more, idk I haven't been on TNB much recently

Sep 6 '17 at 18:16, by Dennis

@TheIOSCoder Rather atypically for TNB, we're having an on-topic discussion.

10:22 AM

Terrorism has dropped by 22% since 2014, but a record number (107) countries had at least one terror attack happen in them last year

So yeah being off-topic is not a problem. This is what makes this chatroom funnier :-)

@cairdcoinheringaahing terrorism in this stat = attempts, victims, identified members, occupied lang area, what?

But I don't like some topic... I think this one is completely unrelated. looking back TNB history

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Terrorism_Index

seeing new year topic while looking back TNB history

10:25 AM

more on-topicish: Anyone familiar with celery

Anyone up for the first Jelly training of 2018?

python thing not the food

Anyway... @Downgoat Any idea what went wrong with my browser and PPCG v2?

@Downgoat Mego :)

@user202729 yeah mego needs to restart the server

10:26 AM

@Downgoat Goats like celery (and all other greens).

I need to make a celery recurring task to fix the bug but what I have atm is not working which is actually why I am asking for help :P

But I see almost-everything else are work, except login.

actually I can restart the server lol I think mego gave me perms

@user202729 should be fixed

@Downgoat I read that before scrolling down and seeing you were talking about python, and for a second my reaction was How the heck is that any more on topic?!?!

tfw you really want to post starbait but something is holding you back

also, happy new year!

10:38 AM

@EriktheOutgolfer That's so starbait-y.

@Adám starbait is something each person may perceive differently...

...but starbait is generally of the form "star this so I get a nice hat please please please..." etc.

messages you know might get stars aren't necessarily starbait, for example talking about stars will inevitably get you a few stars, that doesn't mean you can't talk about stars

if you see star abuse, your plea to stop it will get you a few stars too (if you're quick enough, that is)

@EriktheOutgolfer I generally flag such. That avoids further stars.

Also, I can see potential of unclear specification here... for example, what if Pythagorean identity can be deduced from your identity list? — user202729 1 hour ago

Do you think so?

So far I can prove (sin²(2a) + cos²(2a)) = (sin²(a) + cos²(a)) ²

(for all a)

@Adám no, you can't always do that, flags are seen by the whole network, whereas the rules here are way stricter than other chatrooms, for example The Sphinx's Lair (Puzzling.SE's general discussion)

(although star abuse is mostly observed here IMHO)

@EriktheOutgolfer So?

10:50 AM

"stricter"? Really? "off-topic discussions are allowed"... (I don't participate in non-PPCG chatrooms much so I don't know)

@Adám when the flag is invalidated, obviously, more stars can be added, and flags would then just be annoying anymore and such...I believe that's an issue of chat itself

@EriktheOutgolfer The flag's title is "flag this message as spam, inappropriate, or offensive", so that's what I use it for.

@Adám well, tbf, I have observed cases where totally innocent and good messges get abused with stars...

@EriktheOutgolfer What does "get abused with stars" mean?

@Adám for example, during a discussion, star abuse may suddenly rise, and messages belonging in a valid, on-topic discussion be serially starred for no reason

10:54 AM

@EriktheOutgolfer So? What does that have to do with my flagging?

@Adám because flags are for the message content and may be perceived as invalid flags...that's why we should be able to "flag to ROs and site mods"

@EriktheOutgolfer Maybe you misunderstood (i.e. I didn't express myself clearly). I never flag a message because it gets starred. I only flag messages that break rules, e.g. ask for stars or votes.

@Adám as long as they don't break "Be Nice" and only break local chat room rules, your flag might be misunderstood

@EriktheOutgolfer Worth the risk, imho.

12:27 PM

I solved the PHP error from about 18 hours ago.

The variable wasn't actually defined.

So I set it to its default iff it wasn't.

New Year will not occur anywhere else now iirc.

12:44 PM

@Doorknob I was saw face's "Hello, World!" program and didn't understand how m worked. What is the significance of the second argument, why does it have to be *?

@wizzwizz4 it's 2:46 in utc+14

@betseg But isn't that 2:46 the next day?

yes

my brain borked for a second

It's 00:47 in UTC-12

1:15 PM

unfreeze request: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/46888/vsl

@Downgoat Done.

code-golf math number decision-problem primes

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Q: Is it a Pascal Prime?

It is well known that odd primes will appear in Pascal's triangle exactly twice. However, not all numbers that appear exactly twice in Pascal's triangle are prime. We'll call these numbers Pascal primes. Pascal primes are composite numbers that appear exactly twice in Pascal's triangle. The fir...

2:03 PM

2 days before hats end... right?
Can room owners unpin/unstar messages?

@user202729 Yes. Yes.

flawr

2:41 PM

I wish everyone a good 2018. I heard it is going to be this year that PPCG is going to get its design.

yes, i've heard it will be 6 to 8 weeks after this november

Riker

happy new year y'all

@flawr Hopefully we'll get a design, otherwise I won't trust SE ever again.

Riker

@betseg no it's just nov 1st

@Riker Happy New Year!

Dec 24 '17 at 3:51, by Geobits

@Riker Don't worry. I have it on good authority that the graduation design will be ready in November.

2:53 PM

@Riker did it just be new year in CA?

Owait nvm

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

its almost 2019

New Sandboxed Posts

3:14 PM

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Permute Dimensions code-golfarray-manipulation Given a n-dimensional array of integers and a permutation of the first n natural numbers, permute the array dimensions accordingly. Details The permutation is given as a list of integers, e.g. [1,3,2] means 1 gets mapped to 3, 2 gets mapped to 3 ...

@Cowsquack m stands for malloc, so mab sets a to point to a malloc'd area of memory of size b. The second argument is * in the Hello World example because it's the only integer variable that's been set at that point.

that makes sense, then what does the sizeof nummode in the docs mean?

3:30 PM

It's the size of the number mode, which is described further up in the docs. (So basically if the number mode is int, mxn will allocate space for n ints.)

3:41 PM

I am reading your clock answer, and see that you've used @. The docs tell me that it is replaced with the null byte, but I don't still see its significance

3:57 PM

Can functions return more than necessary? code-golf

if the quest6ion says "only return" or "only display", no

Like, I write a function that display "Hello, World!", but also return something.

oh, then no idea

> Greatest distance between any two points within U.S. Territory: 9,514 miles (15,311 km) from Point Udall, Guam to Point Udall, St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands (from Wikipedia)

H.PWiz

In Haskell, the function putStr has type String -> IO (). Thus it takes a String, prints it, and returns something (IO ()). Similarly, most Haskell functions that deal with IO will return an IO Something after performing an action. Not sure if this helps to answer your question, but you can't really do anything with the IO () anyway

type theory much

4:23 PM

@Cowsquack It terminates the format string, %d\n.

@Mr.Xcoder I have it from a reliable source that design thingamajiggs are probably going to start moving again soon. Probably.

Geobits

6:04 PM

I am the most reliable of sources.

7

6:15 PM

[ citation needed ]

mınxomaτ

Mar 5 '16 at 3:56, by Geobits

Ok, so I lied... it got at least a chuckle...

Geobits

6:47 PM

Not fair. I was drinking that night

6:58 PM

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Q: Finding My Favorite Times

I really like times that follow certain patterns. In particular, I like times where all the numbers are the same, or all of the numbers increase sequentially. Further, I viscerally hate when people put letters in my times, so all of that AM/PM nonsense is dead to me. Thus, my favorite times are: ...

code-golf date

The specificity of the YAY!!! didn't come up in the sandbox phase

(this is my first PPCG challenge, so I'm definitely new to typical ways)

@hBy2Py I suggest removing YAY!!! too.

Sandbox is not perfect by any means!

Suggestions please for what to change it to

'any invalid [thing]'?

Let the submissions return 0 perhaps or whatever else??

7:05 PM

y :)

Perhaps with a bytes bonus if someone actually implements the YAY!!!, maybe?

No, avoid bonuses (personal experience).

@Mr.Xcoder Ok. They have always seemed kind of ... off ... when I've seen them in other challenges.

def avoid bonus

Calibrating the proper size of the bonus has to be tricky

7:07 PM

exactly

b/c, e.g., different bytes required in different languages

gotcha

@hBy2Py Welcome to PPCG BTW! Very good first challenge (other than the YAY!!! part :P).

YAY!!!

:-D

What about specifying that it has to be a single return value?

i.e., requiring that it be only a single number or string, as opposed to, e.g., 0 0

yeah the challenge is good :D

@hBy2Py Are you planning to remove the 'YAY!!!'?

7:11 PM

Yes, I'm planning to just give the YAY!!! as an example of what one might return.

Ok.

I'd go with "any otherwise unattainable result" - this would include errors too and allows maximum flexibility for the golfers

I agree with Jonathan

Does this exclude [0 0] as valid?

Just about to suggest that

7:12 PM

(maybe explicitly exclude infinite loops ;p)

[0, 0] would not be obtainable any other way, so no.

Ahhk... so the goal is just to have it not return anything that's a valid output for a different input?

you could explicitly exclude it if you really want (although I wouldn't)

I had in mind the requirement that it produce the same output for each of the six favorite times.

it's all up to you of course!

@hBy2Py Exactly. Returning anything that you could not obtain with any valid input.

@JonathanAllan I smell a Jelly duel :P

7:15 PM

you could require the same behaviour in all "YEY!!!" cases

i.e consistent value

@jon @Mr.X Ok, edits made. Thoughts?

It looks fine to me.

looks good (Y)

Cool. Thanks very much to you both!

7:20 PM

can you produce an empty result for B?

According to the current rules, yes.

@Cowsquack Yep, as-revised that's ok now

@hBy2Py oh, (A) OR (B)? I think (B) ma be much easier - did you mean (A) AND (B)?

@JonathanAllan Well, (A) vs (B) depends on the value

If the input matches a favorite time, then (B) is to be output. Otherwise, (A)

"I need you to write me a program that either (A) ...; or (B) ..."

7:22 PM

The conditions are set forth in the second paragraph, below the code block listing the six times

"... either (A) tells me both (i) how many minutes it's been since my last favorite time as well as (ii) how many minutes from now my next favorite time will occur, if it is not now one of my favorite times; or (B) will supply a single 'signal value' if it is now one of my favorite times."

if it is not now one of my favorite times specifies when (A) applies

if it is now one of my favorite times specifies when (B) applies

Should I re-order that paragraph... maybe add emphasis?

That is what I thought originally - so, yes make it clearer

Argh I see no clever way of generating the favourite times.

"...that both (A) ...; and (B) ..."

ohh... I was thinking of the program from a single-given-execution perspective

i.e., on a given execution, it supplies either (A) or (B)

Hm.

See edits

@Mr.Xcoder I'm no golfer, but neither did I after I thought up the idea. Is what prompted me to turn it into (the beginnings of) a proper challenge.

still readable as either/or

7:28 PM

The time math also makes things awkward.

@JonathanAllan As in, I should change it to both/and language?

I think

@JonathanAllan I'm hesitant to rework it that completely, at this point. Hopefully any lingering confusion will be resolved by the sample inputs/outputs table?

It is quite clear to me

I think it is as simple as changing "either" to "both" and "or" to "and"

@JonathanAllan Fair enough; done.

I think I see the difference in semantics in the sentence.

I was thinking of what the program does on any given execution; IIUYC you're thinking of it as, 'what is the totality of the feature set of the program'.

7:38 PM

@hBy2Py "arithmetically" would include 1357 (+2,+2,+2)

you want "incrementally" I think

Same problem

best add 1357 to tests

good idea

See edit

increment means add one :)

You can increment by any amount

x += 35

7:40 PM

true :)

add words to make it clear and test case for completeness

@hBy2Py Can you recheck the 2244 test case?

(I think the second value should be 101 instead?)

Nevermind.

@Mr.Xcoder I used a lot of scratch paper coming up with those sample outputs.

Yeah I was wrong

The non-contiguity of the minutes is a real headache

At least there are no leap seconds :)

@hBy2Py Modulo by 60 :)

Of course that is not enough, though

7:46 PM

No, it doesn't work like that at all.

It's base-60, really

But written in decimal

I'm sure there's some python library that handles it all natively. I should probably exclude that. Datetime libraries generally?

@hBy2Py Please don't. It will turn your challenge into a "Do X without Y", which we generally hate. It's perfect as-is.

Ok

Noted!

AMA.

I shall forever remember your memorable handle for future incessant pestering.

Oh it's a pleasure, not an incessant pestering

We really need more users, more challenge writers. The activity on PPCG has dropped quite a bit ever since I joined, and we really want more challenges :)

7:55 PM

Well, that makes me feel better, actually -- I have no chops whatsoever for a proper golfing of something like this.

I felt a little bad for coming up with something that seemed so tricky without any intention of ever trying to solve it myself. :-P