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7:00 PM
@quartata Yes, thanks - a lot more clear, now.
 
@Riker you should actually do it
 
I am actually
:D
it's the ubuntu font
 
Sure
 
I gtg right now, will finish it in an hour or so though
 
I personally like Roboto and Open Sans
Is it on GH?
 
7:04 PM
working on it right now
at rikerw.github.io
 
Cool
 
Do we have an active enough community to have two CnR challenges going at the same time? I know we (as a collective) try and limit how many KOTHs we have going at the same time.
 
I think we should probably only have 1 at a time
 
Because cop submissions are already scarce-ish
 
On that front, do people think my current KOTH in the sandbox is postable?
 
7:10 PM
Crap I didn't see any other CnRs in the sandbox....
Oh well that will give me time to write a leaderboard
 
@muddyfish yes
just not yet
 
@Riker how long do you think?
 
after this cnr ends
 
@Riker *these
 
well yeah
 
7:14 PM
I don't think the CnR and KoTH people overlap that much
 
CnRs are really weird
as there's not normally enough information to know whether an answer is good / interesting to crack / etc. until you've worked on it
 
@quartata I try and do both if I can. Though I'm only really interested in posting things to crack
 
This is not exactly a CnR at any rate.
 
@quartata what do you mean by that?
 
the cops don't do much
 
7:16 PM
@Riker quite the opposite
 
then I must have read it wrong
 
what iz cnr ;-;
 
cops 'n' robbers
challenge style
 
im bad at abbreviations
 
@muddyfish This is kind of a weird CnR busy beaver cross. I have another one in mind that's similar so I might make a tag
Once I can demonstrate how to generalize it
@Riker Cop answers are really hard to make is my point
And the self cracks are tricky
 
7:18 PM
ah
 
@quartata I sandboxed one of those a while back but deleted it from the sandbox because the sandbox commenters were persistently misunderstanding what it was about
I may try to redo it as at some point
 
@AdmBorkBork Beavers are vicious though. They might kill off all the wolves
 
@LliwTelracs poor wolves can't get at the beavers in their hidey holes either :(
2
 
@LliwTelracs what about this wolf?
 
7:26 PM
@Riker woof?
brb uploading higher res version
 
lol
 
@muddyfish done, @mod could you pull me?
 
hmm, I'm getting a bit disillusioned with the voting at the moment; out of my recent answers, a trivial Retina answer scored +14, whereas the two Jelly answers which beat Dennis are at +0 and +1
it's really disheartening to see larger rewards the less effort you put in
 
ye, it's a problem
 
@ais523 I'm honestly surprised you haven't seen that before
 
7:29 PM
@muddyfish I have, this is just a particularly bad and depressing instance though
 
pretty much everyone's top answers are no-effort-required ones
 
out of my top-voted three answers, two are trivial, the third won a best of PPCG award (which is probably the only reason it gained enough visibility to compete with the other two)
 
@ais523 I mortarboarded off of a blah PowerShell answer.
 
actually the top two are identical 1-byte answers
 
@ais523 only 1 of my top 5 I would consider had much interesting effort put into them
 
7:32 PM
Remember the print all alphanumeric characters challenge? Someone posted a BF answer that outgolfed Dennis, but the answer has only 2 upvotes
 
My top three are 1) Something that took a lot of work that I'm really proud of 2) a meh answer that got way outgolfed and no one noticed and 3) a jelly one-byte built-in
 
@KritixiLithos I can remember a challenge for printing all alphanumeric characters that aren't in your program
do you mean that one?
 
@KritixiLithos you mean alphabet ones?
 
43
Q: Print all ASCII alphanumeric characters without using them

watChallenge Print the following characters: abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ1234567890 The catch is that you may not use any one of them in your code. You may print them in arbitrary order, with or without a leading or trailing newline, but you may not print any other char...

 
@KritixiLithos I love your V answer on that. One of my favorite V answers probably
 
7:35 PM
:D
 
I do think part of it is a self-feedback loop based on reputation. I have noticed that I've been tending to get more upvotes on my PowerShell answers as my reputation has increased.
 
hm
my top answer is that goat one
>_<
my second top is one that took work because the interpreter was weird af
 
... Misclicked on my rep counter and it's reset to 0 from almost 10k
 
?
@muddyfish what rep counter?
 
@Riker the green thing that tells you when you get more rep
 
7:49 PM
@DJMcMayhem Prettifier and ChatJax
 
@muddyfish ah
@muddyfish uh wait you haven't checked it for that long?
 
@Riker I wanted to let it get to 10k
 
oh
RIP
 
I normally just visit my user page if I'm that interested in where it came from
 
this is like the way I have to take a day off PPCG every now and then because I don't want to get Fanatic
 
7:51 PM
@ais523 why wouldn't you want that?
 
I remember when @flawr had no gold badges... and then the fire nation attacked he became too addicted to ppcg
 
it's only pretending you have no life
 
@muddyfish likely gives employers a bad impression
 
@Riker avatar, right?
 
ye
and general meme
 
7:52 PM
@ais523 why would they care if you spent your time doing recreational programming?
 
I don't know many memes
 
@Riker :D I actually just started watching that
 
hahaha
it's good
the plot twist at the end was shit tho
 
Once you finish avatar the last airbender, you can watch Korra
 
7:53 PM
</spoiler>
 
@Riker no! No no no! No spoilers!
 
What plot twist? Everything was normal
 
@Riker wait there was a plot twist?
 
OK, I'm leaving chat. Brb, haha
 
@muddyfish my message was mostly a joke
the korra/asami bit
 
Anonymous
7:55 PM
@Riker That was hardly a plot twist for the people paying attention
 
yeah it was mostly a joke
 
@Riker I don't get it, they don't appear in avatar
 
@KritixiLithos that was in The Legend of Korra
wasn't it?
 
Did you uh, get the prettifier, Dj?
 
@muddyfish ye
 
7:56 PM
But what plot twist are you talking about?
 
@KritixiLithos don't worry, it's not really a plot twist per say
 
end of legend of korra, relationship popped up between krora and asami
it was a joke about it being a plot twist tho
 
It was implied.
 
can we delete those bits so @DJMcMayhem can come back?
 
Ah, I don't remember much about Korra (I've only watched avatar many times, I've watched korra only once)
 
Anonymous
7:58 PM
Eh, he could just ignore that conversation
 
Anonymous
I could move it to Trash, but I'm not going to do that unless the conversation participants want it to happen
 
wat
ok pls halp
 
@Riker Oh, I already knew that. I have been on the internet before, of course I knew that
 
wat
i have a need to make a forum website
 
I'm not watching Korra anyway
 
Anonymous
7:59 PM
Korra is pretty good
 
Avatar is better
 
Anonymous
@KritixiLithos Well obviously
 
I preferred Avatar
 
Because Aang is much smarter than korra
Also Sokka was missing from Korra :(
 
Anonymous
My wife and I are in the middle of re-watching AtlA+LoK. We're almost done with AtlA. The problem is, we act like old people and fall asleep during episodes, so we ended up unintentionally skipping several episodes.
 
8:00 PM
What's the timeline between the two? How far apart are that?
 
@DJMcMayhem lol I figured not sure
 
A few generations
 
Prettifier is treating <backslash> as HTML. Looks neat.
 
Anonymous
@DJMcMayhem 70 years
 
@Mego I'm notorious for falling asleep during movies. Even during really good/exciting action movies or in the theatre. It's kinda sad haha
I get a lot of crap for it
 
Anonymous
8:01 PM
I normally don't fall asleep during TV shows or movies
 
Anonymous
But I'm taking new allergy medication which makes me super sleepy
 
Nothing to see here. Move along...
 
@Mego what are you allergic to?
 
Anonymous
@KritixiLithos That's a pretty big spoiler
 
^
 
Anonymous
8:02 PM
@Riker Everything, it seems :P
 
Anonymous
You guys should probably make a room for Avatar/Korra spoilers
 
I saw it, but I'm not far enough in for it to blow my mind, so I'll probably just forget it
 
Anonymous
Just remember: Uncle Iroh is the best character in the series
3
 
Anonymous
You'll understand why as you continue watching
 
Oh, I already knew that. ;)
 
Anonymous
8:06 PM
leaves on the vine
 
@Mego That sucks. When I was a kid I had horrible allergies, mostly to cats. Thankfully they've gotten a lot better. I barely notice them anymore except for like one or twice a year when they get really bad
 
Anonymous
I have to deal with a bunch of seasonal allergens - cedar, pine, etc.
 
@Mego He's my favourite character too.
 
@DJMcMayhem :(
 
@DJMcMayhem A cat allergic to cats. Hmm...
 
8:09 PM
I have a friend who's allergic to pine trees. I don't even know how that's possible, but they definitely picked the wrong state to live in haha
 
wot
 
@DJMcMayhem an allergy's caused by the immune system having an incorrect response to something that it shouldn't be responding to; because the immune system is designed to be able to detect and destroy anything that isn't part of the body, it thus has a very large number of things that it can detect, and that allows for a very large number of potential allergies
 
Anonymous
@DJMcMayhem I went to college in the middle of a pine forest. I don't make good decisions.
 
Anonymous
Pine pollen is an irritant normally, and being allergic to it makes it even worse
 
I also have a friend who's allergic to pineapple, which is probably the weirdest allergy I've heard of
 
8:19 PM
I'm allergic to avocado and banana
 
Anonymous
Pineapple is pretty hardcore. It's one of the few things that tries to eat you back.
 
And eucalyptus (just smelling it, not that I eat it, lol)
 
if (Boolean.toString(condition).equals("true")){}
 
8:39 PM
> If you choose a sequence that has not been proven to be finite you must output all terms that might exist not just the ones listed on the OEIS page
what about langs with no arbitrary long ints
 
Anonymous
@betseg You should comment that on the question rather than in here
 
tfw you find one of martin's questions on another site you requent
 
Anonymous
Martin is omnipresent
 
yes but his avatar isn't
he has an identicon on scifi
2
Q: Why does Marsh burn tin in the dark?

Martin EnderThis question contains spoilers for the first part of the trilogy (and maybe minor spoilers for the second part, not sure). You've been warned. At the end of chapter 69 of the The Hero of Ages we have this bit: Marsh held up the sheet, flaring his tin to get a better look at its contents in ...

shows the right avatar in chat, but on main I see a green identicon?
 
I see his avatar
 
Anonymous
8:53 PM
Blame caching
 
hm okay
 
@Dennis OK sorry
 
@DJMcMayhem just remember 1 thing about avatar: the earth king has invited you to lake laogai
 
9:09 PM
o_O Uhh, ok?
This comment chain is glorious
 
Anonymous
@DJMcMayhem Ooh yay free comment flags
 
@Mego on that site, those kinds of comments are allowed, sorry. no flags for you
:P
 
Anonymous
Too chatty is too chatty, regardless of the site
 
Anonymous
If the mods of SFF don't enforce those rules, then they're not exactly doing their jobs
 
@Riker Now I'm waiting for the badge (1000 days straight)
 
9:17 PM
lol
just in case you want to see it
it's something about not having to use c that saves time
 
Ooh, RomainL commented on it!
I actually know who that is
 
@Riker Martin's avatar shows as his identicon in chat on three different devices but not in the transcript so you're not alone
 
@DJMcMayhem o_O who?
@quartata hahaha
 
@Riker Pretty much the Dennis of vi.se
 
9:22 PM
Ye
I run into people from VI.se all the time. TommyA on GitHub a bunch of times, tommcdo has a ton of plugins, carpetsmoker is on Meta so all the time, I've seen statox on PPCG before, and apparently Romainl is on reddit
 
huh cool
 
I'm not surprised about the PPCG one, I lurk on many more SEs than I contribute to
 
Actually, he's one of the few people who have used V before:
5
A: This is my pillow

statoxV, 22 21 bytes Edit One byte won, thanks @DjMcMayhem: 5á\5á/05ä$4Ä5x$p4Ä3ä} Changes are: Y4P -> 4Ä Use V duplicate line instead of Vim built-in command (this will add a blank line at the end of the paragraph) 3äG -> 3ä} Duplicate the paragraph instead of the whole buffer (to avoid blank l...

 
oh cool
@DJMcMayhem hahaha his 2 answers are on teh same question, 1 is vim and the other is V
 
Yeah, lol
 
9:31 PM
I somehow managed to avoid getting killed when being paralysed by the floating eye
I feel fortunate
 
9:46 PM
In Python can I do something like print(sum(for i in range(5)))
 
Wouldn't print(sum(range(5))) work?
 
Sorry that was wrong
Something like sum(for i in range(3,5):a[i])
 
@ATaco was rereading this, a lot of the comments seem to say "DON"T DRIVE OVER WOMBATS"
is it seriously that bad, other than accidentally killing an animal?
they seem to imply it will total your car and ruin your life
 
They're stronger than your car
 
Well, according to Wikipedia, wombats are 20 to 35kg.
 
9:50 PM
@ATaco really?
 
That would really mess up a car.
 
@AdmBorkBork wtaf
does not look like 50-70 pounds
 
Those things break legs by rolling at them
 
@ATaco wtf
ok I can believe "don't hit wombats" now
 
Straya
 
9:51 PM
why are even the cute things in AUS evil
 
@Riker Very cute. Would pet and then die. 12/10
 
Leo
@betseg something like sum([a[i] for i in range(3,5)]) ?
 
Our pets are normally birds for a reason
 
you have the big ass spiders that live in your boots, the kangaroos, and then the cute fuzzy things that will break your legs by doing a sonic roll at them
@ATaco o-o
 
@ATaco So that the spiders will eat them instead of you?
 
9:53 PM
Our fauna just evolved in a very competitive environment
 
uh-huh
this is olympic level shit
 
They're harmless if you know how to deal with them
 
But most people don't?
 
most people here do
 
@flawr chocolate lizard vs cuddly but evil giant gopher
 
9:56 PM
@ATaco At least the ones in internet videos getting killed probably don't.
 
Cuddly Giant Gopher sounds like an auto generated username
@flawr yeah but then there's that guy that just straight up punched a roo
 
lol
 
@ATaco The roo just didn't know how to deal with hoomans, as I said.
 
lol
also, this is an interesting mix of people atm
chocolate consuming lizard from switzerland, lego taco from AUS, and picasso cat from the west coast US
 
Well, this downward facing PowerShell logo from middle US has to leave. Seeya, folks. :p
 
10:00 PM
For people without reference, punching a roo would be like trying to tackle a bear
 
@AdmBorkBork see ya
@ATaco do you actually call them 'roos' also?
or is that just shorter to type
 
@Riker you're living at AlexA.-coast?
 
We call em roos
 
@ATaco Yeah those effing bears, I gotta show them all the time whos boss.
 
@flawr I'm 2 states below him
 
10:02 PM
Your biggest threat where I live though is just the meth heads
 
Regarding this:
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

quartataRegex Golf Cops and Robbers (draft) cops-and-robbers kolmogorov-complexity regex Challenge: Cops: The cops must post a 100 byte or less program in any language that outputs 30 strings of printable ASCII (this excludes newlines), 15 of them "match" strings and 15 "don't match" strings. The st...

Should I remove the required number of strings?
Like, as many "match" strings as you want as long as you have an equivalent amount of "don't match"
 
@ATaco don't worry
we have those in CA also
 
Things you shouldn't do in Python (skipping the handicap the OP allowed)
 
@Riker Haha :D
 
we do >_>
 
10:06 PM
I got soo sick of seeing TypeError: not enough arguments for format string while making that.
 
lol
 
Also, are those banned special characters sufficient? I kind of forgot to check to see if I missed any >_>
 
@Riker For me it is the math-heads causing most of the problems.
 
It's mostly pot-heads here >_>
 
you live in co of course you do
@DJMcMayhem I live in CA. we have meth heads, pot heads, and then the coke/heroin addicts
 
10:16 PM
Please use the Nethack room for Nethack discussion.
 
@quartata no it's the same one. It got unfrosted
 
@DJMcMayhem pls
 
Should I move --- Ninja'd
 
kek
 
10:18 PM
@DJMcMayhem Oh it is. Huh
 
Dennis unfroze it when a nethack discussion happened... Last night? Two nights ago?
Haha, I've moved 95 message there so far
 
nice
 
So Dj, Did you get the Prettifier?
 
Not yet. I'll install it tonight
 
0
Q: Counting in binary nybbles

Shaun BebbersThis challenge is to output to your terminal, window, canvas or screen the numbers zero to 10 inclusive. Each outputted number must be shown as a 4-bit wide nybble, so zero must show as 0000 and so on. You may separate each number outputted with a space, comma or carriage return. Smallest soluti...

 
10:43 PM
0
Q: I am having an issue with reversing this array, please help,I am pulling my hair out

Sarah Elizabeth MI am so done with this program, I am trying to get the array to print reversed AND THEN delete the reoccuring values, based off of what the user inputted. This is what I have, everything works, minus the numerical printing, along with having the array numerically sorted first AND THEN duplicate...

 
@NewMainPosts hammer pls
 
aaw=)
 
yes
 
Aaaaand closed.
We need to up our hustle, these are rookie speeds.
 
iirc doorknob's record is like 29 seconds or something
maybe even less, liek 9
 
10:50 PM
Lua's lang-lua:string.format supports Octal, Hex, and unsigned int, but it doesn't support Binary.`
 
wat
11:03 PM
yay i built my first iOS app
 
I just cut myself, and am now wearing 4 layers of band-aids on my finger. ;-;
 
wat
 
We need a chat.SE iPhone app.
 
wat
exists
it is built in to the stack exchange thing
 
Now on Windows Phone ;-;
 
11:13 PM
The SE app doesn't support chat.
 
wat
if I ever get working on the Desktop app I will seriously consider making a mobile app
 
It redirects to the browser of choice.
 
wat
embedded browser
 
It barely works. My phone will think I'm still typing the previous line when I start a new message, and I can backspace into it when there's nothing there.
 
@ATaco click add to home screen on SE website
Should work
they might need approriate meta tag
 
11:23 PM
Also, we need a meta post for Userscripts.
 
@ATaco nah, not really where userscripts belong
stackapps is correct place if it's for SE
 
11:35 PM
I used used aL because it was golfier than 26.
 
I golfed two bytes off a Dennis answer. :D
 
wat
I am making an SE Chat desktop app right now.
Still very rough
Dumbest idea ever: Browser written in electron
 
For the curious aL gets the length of the Alphabet, and 26 would require concatenation.
 
wat
I'm just using electron
 
11:40 PM
@wat if you want to be pedantic chrome is then dumbest idea evet
 
OS written in electron
 
Heh oops
 
wat
@Downgoat ...kek
@Pavel nodeos is a thing
 
Yep
 
It's 2:43 am
I can't sleep
Halp
 
11:43 PM
NodeOS is still Linux...
You want jQuery OS
@betseg count goats to sleep
 
@Downgoat No you don't. You really don't.
 
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

h_sMultiplication puzzle using digits 1-9 The puzzle is to use the digits 1-9 inclusive, exactly once, to fill in the blanks such that: _ _ _ _ * 3 = _ _ _ _ _ Your task is to create the shortest program that finds all solutions to the equation. math number arithmetic

 
@Downgoat How hard is it to make a Linux distro?
 
@mınxomaτ I mean it's fast ATM
@Pavel much easier than making OS from scratch
 
@Pavel 1. Use any linux distro. 2. Modify one byte. 3. Done.
 
11:45 PM
That's not what I meant >_>
 
Btw I posted a 260 byte Python code to the newest CNR challenge if you want to take a look
I think my first Python golf
 
wat
11:59 PM
why is electron so hard ._.
 

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