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12:01 AM
how did he fidn out your name?
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ it's not his name though
 
.....
ask him yourself
 
12:14 AM
... what?! There are 1556 zsh processes running on my Pi. That would explain the extreme slowness...
 
29 bytes for the iceland flag! 48h64w48E0U1CSFcx20 8 D72828x
new lang noncompeting :P
 
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12:34 AM
@Doorknob Looks like your pie has been forked.
7
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ link?
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ no link yet
I still need a name
and to make it turing complete
it can only add and subtract at this point :P
and I need to look at other graphical output code golfs and make it good for those
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ By choice or for PPCG? For the latter, primality testing is enough.
 
@Dennis by choice. I make all my languages TC, at least, as close to it as possible.
 
I'm not really sure how to verify that. It's quite obvious for some languages, but in some cases...
 
12:43 AM
in some cases I hope some basic structure and looping brings it close enough--that, or a semi rigorous proof/reduction to a cyclic tag system or BF
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Ferik.
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ No
 
Ferik?
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Myst?
 
isn't that the name of an early 3d game or soemthing
 
google says yes
 
12:45 AM
I was thinking of reusing a name for a language that I never published and probably never will due to image encoding: "Peindre"
 
myst sounds nice tho
 
1:38 AM
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ wat
 
> I had the same situation as you Nathan -- Not only did Preview crash every time ...
 
>_> I forgot me suggesting an edit goes into a queue
 
I changed "Nathan" -> "Downgoat" and said "my name is Downgoat" as a edit message
reviewers are gonna be so confused
 
2:04 AM
I'm thinking about picking up a dvorak keyboard, anybody use dvorak?
 
2:19 AM
Chris does iirc.
 
@Dennis Just saw your Seros answer
interesting
 
@Dennis chris?
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Jester-Young
 
@quartata Sesos. I had been planning to write a golfy version of BF for some time.
 
Awkward typo....
 
2:27 AM
Next step: primality test
 
@Dennis The numeric I/O is nice, one of the more annoying aspects of BF
 
On second thought, I should do the loop catalogs first.
Yeah, numeric input and output is definitely an advantage.
So is while-not-EOF.
 
@Dennis Done and done.
 
3:24 AM
3
Q: Recognize mod-folds

LynnTask Define a mod-fold as a function of the form f(x) = x % a1 % a2 % … % ak, where the ai are positive integers and k ≥ 0. (Here, % is the left-associative modulo operator.) Given a list of n integers y0, …, yn−1, determine if there exists a mod-fold f so that each yi = f(i). You may choose ...

 
user214599
3:36 AM
@Dennis I can't understand sesos, can you explain them using brainfuck?
 
What is chat supposed to be anymore? Lately whenever I come by on one of my infrequent visits, I'm unsure if what I post is appropriate for the chatroom. I used to treat it like when I just talk to my friends or random people, but now I'm not sure how site-oriented it is supposed to be...
Such that I'm afraid to write chat messages...
 
@Justin Pah, you'll be fine.
 
Okay
So I've been having this thought. My family has almost managed to visit all 50 states in the United States and I thought it would be interesting to know the years in which we visited each one. Unfortunately, this would be quite difficult because digging through all the information would take some time. It would be easy, however, if we just had a database of it all. So I've been thinking: what if I just record my life in a database?
It's like a journal, except completely unstructured...
 
@Justin Don't worry about it. No part of chatiquette forbids idle chatter.
 
The Chatiquette is mostly because jokes and memes were being overused, and the chat was filling up with noise.
 
3:45 AM
@Justin Isn't that what Facebook are trying to achieve with the timeline feature
I don't even mind the jokes and memes as much as one character punctuation messages
 
@Quill Facebook doesn't have details about everything that happens in my life or every event, and certainly not from before Facebook was even a thing.
 
@MatthewRoh Most instructions have a direct equivalent. jmp is [, jnz is ], get is ,, put is ., rwd is <, fwd is >, sub is -, and add is +. The main difference is that you write add 5 instead of +++++.
 
And does Facebook let you like SQL queries :P
 
There's also nop (for do-while loops) and jne (quits on EOF instead of 0).
 
@Justin I've actually started doing that on a small scale. I record the tasks I get done each day in a Google doc. Not just errands, but also stuff like social events, reading books, watching videos/movies/TV shows, etc.
 
3:49 AM
Google docs or even spreadsheets would be sad though; no SQL queries for me :D
 
Well, I am hoping to make a website to do much the same thing eventually.
 
What do you mean?
 
More automation and better organizations of things I got done during the day and things I have to do.
 
Hello
 
I started using Google Calendar to prioritise the time I'm spending on issues, and it seems to be working well
 
3:55 AM
Haha this was not supposed to be related to coordinating my life at all or planning or anything like that
Just like starting a sql database so I could write myself queries about my life
 
Guys my eyes are bleeding @Events and GameThreads help please
I've been working on this controller for 6 hours
This is up there as the worst code I've ever written
 
> controller
> worst code I've ever written
checks out
 
Well they don't need to look at the controller source
They can write their bots in any language, they just take input and write the new button states each tick
The main problem is that I can't sleep in hooks so I have to spawn threads anytime I want to do anything basically
As a result it's gotten fairly ugly. It's not that bad but it's not terribly clean
 
Has anyone ever used VEX robotics? I brushed the dust off an old VEX starter kit today, and I'm trying to see how difficult it is to add custom programming. It looks like it requires a special piece of hardware.
It also looks like I'm in luck, since they released the legacy software for free: robotc.net/download/vex
 
4:45 AM
For the Sesos bounty, I need a Brainfuck answer.
 
then write one?
 
"\_(._.)_//"
 
Question: what would be more useful in a stack-based language whose stack is empty?
1. Use last pushed item for pop()'s with empty stack
2. Use last popped item for pop()'s with empty stack
3. Read a line of input for pop()'s with empty stack
4. Use the last thing inputted for pop()'s with empty stack

I will have a command-line flag to change which option to use, but which should be default?
 
@GamrCorps In some langs, a bit of input is obtained when popping from an empty stack.
 
user214599
Has anyone seen this
 
user214599
 
5:15 AM
which do you like better: import a as b or from a import b?
 
@Downgoat Both, if import a as b aliases a to b and from a import b applies a.b to the global namespace.
Apply in that sense means copy.
 
@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 oh ok. i see
wait I meant:
import a from b or from a import b
 
The second.
 
any particular reason?
or just because python does it that way ;P
 
Python. ;P
 
5:20 AM
ok ill do the former
Cheddar needs to be as python-free as possible
antivenom is expensive
especially for goats since hospitals don't take hay/tin cans
 
Might as well not do print() since that's how Python does it
 
@quartata yeah
well time to work on module system! brb
 
Better get rid of all ifs fors and whiles too. Just to be safe
 
its okay. Python doesn't even have for(a;b;c) style fors
it doesn't even have switch statements either
 
Grrr. I had to completely re-install windows. For absolutely no reason.
 
5:23 AM
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan o_o really? why? what happened?
 
@Downgoat from a import b makes more sense in general since you want to go from least specific to most specific
Otherwise you'd have to get used to looking at the end of lines for module names
 
I guess my point is that with something as basic of a syntax element as this why would you not like it just because it's mildly associated with Python
 
6 hours ago, by Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man
FML. My computer crashed and won't restart...
I didn't even change anything.
 
more seriously, I'd rather avoid doing it because A) it's less confusing when you can simply say 'import' statement because it begins with import B) I'm not going to do something just because python does it
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Q__Q
 
Thankfully I'm tracking config files on git.
 
5:24 AM
that sucks
are your files saved or are they gone?
 
Except that I still have to reinstall a bunch of crap.
Most of them are saved or tracked.
 
that reminds me, I need to start time-machining my computer again >_>
 
@Downgoat how does it look with regular import statements?
 
It's the little things that are going to drive me crazy. Like wallpapers, and chrome extensions etc.
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan you used custom wallpaper?
 
5:26 AM
Who doesn't?
 
^ speaking of wallpapers, I took this picture of yosemite which is very good destop background
 
Damn. That's beautiful.
 
Nice picture!
That's Half Dome, right? I visited there as well earlier this year :)
 
Did you hike yosemite?
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan I did the 12-mileish panorama trail before but not for this picture
@Doorknob @DrGreenEggsandIronMan thanks :)
 
5:32 AM
Hopefully I'll do a 14er sometime in the next couple weeks.
 
Dad just came and sent me to the river. For absolutely no reason.
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan but if you are half-iron man, won't you just be able to fly across the entire trial really quickly?
@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 do you have like a river near your home?
 
@Downgoat Nope.
 
@Downgoat The trial?
 
@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 o_O
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan sorry trail
 
5:35 AM
Oh. Yeah, I can do half of it really quickly, but eggs aren't very good at hiking, so the second half is a lot harder.
 
do you think having a namespace command is good idea?
 
6:17 AM
Anyone here have an algorithm for finding all permuations of n elements of a list l lying around? My goal is to turn l=[1 2 3], n=2 into [1 2] [2 1] [1 3] [3 1] [2 3] [3 2] (not necessarily in that order)
 
Those are permutations, not combinations.
 
oh yeah, my bad. thats what i meant
 
6:31 AM
TIL babel allows trailing commas
 
I'm making a bunch of builtin list/stream constructors for popular sequences for a golfing language I'm writing, what sequences should I definitely add in?
 
meep meep
 
7:08 AM
\o/ \o/ \o/ JS/Cheddar interfacing works
 
Congrats
\o/
 
@Fawful your name sounds like "flawrful". are you in any way a sock of @flawr?
cheddar> var js = cheddar.internal(cheddar.uid)
cheddar> js.translate(123)
< Instance of "PrimitiveInterface" >
 
I am most certainly not! How dare you make such an allegation! (I actually tried to change this to my real name recently, but it seems like that didn't work. :P)
 
@Fawful you got prompted with the 30 day limit?
 
I didn't; not quite sure what 30 day limit you're talking about as I haven't seen anything like that referenced anywhere
The current name is based off of mariowiki.com/fawful from the Mario RPGs.
 
7:13 AM
oh >_> you can only change your name every 30 days is what I'm talking about
that 30-day limit has caused me... trouble... in the past to say the least
 
I've only tried to change it once ever, so that wouldn't apply
Apparently the change took affect with all my answers and profiles and things, but not here in the chat.
 
@Fawful oh, you have to go to your chat account and change your parent user to "Programming Puzzles & Code Golf"
 
shrug
That might help :P
Did it work?
 
yup
 
I'll take your word for it, as it still looks like Fawful to me.
Oh wait, nope, there we go.
 
7:20 AM
question: is there shorthand for a ? b : true?
a | b = 0, that'll return false rather than true
question: how should JS interfacing for objects be?
 
@Downgoat see below:
var a = true
var b = 'test'
c = () => console.log(!a || b)
c() // 'test'
a = false
c() // true
 
user214599
7:51 AM
Hi
 
user214599
this->sayHi();
 
user214599
@Downgoat
 
user214599
class Downgoat : Goat
{
void sayBaa()
{
cout << "Baa" << endl;
}
};
 
8:43 AM
g'm golfers
 
9:38 AM
wow this room is quiet
hi @mınxomaτ
 
10:04 AM
hi
 
hi
\o/ someone

 JavaScript

Topic: Anything JavaScript, ECMAScript including Node, React, ...
._.
 
I'm 'bout to submit a sandbox post
 
why you messin with the fancy characters
?
I can do that too
∫∑∑?
 
(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
 
10:12 AM
you copied and pasted that
 
didn't you?
confess
 
i have pressed altgr+up+up+down+down+left+right+left+right+b+a
(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
 
i have wincompose
 
10:13 AM
I know the konami code too
 
so when i type the konami code on my keyboard i flip a table: (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
 
there are more characters than keypresses as well
You are shameful
not the copy paste
but the denial
 
denial of what?
 
of copy paste
//˚<>˚\\
The spider will eat you now
 
no i dont copy paste
i only copy paste for the look of disaproval
 
10:17 AM
this one -> ಠ_ಠ
?
 
yep
ಠ_ಠ
 
but the eyes are used in that thing you claim to not copy paste
!!!!!
YOU HAVE BEEN CAUGHT
WIAT
 
because when i type compose + the konami code the entire flip the table is drawn
 
YOU KNOW WHAT PROFESSION IS IN DANGER OF BEING CAUGHT
A SPY
SPY!!!!!!!!!
THE SPY IS TUXCRAFTING
 
≡Ø
ಠ_ಠ
 
10:20 AM
˚@˚
 
ʌ
°¶°
ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ
 
it is the Hexeyed-Pentmawed abomination
RUN
/( ˚o˚)/
. . / \
 
hide in the sandbox!
(I made a post in the sandbox)
 
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Destructible WatermelonWhich ghosts are missing? In this challenge, given a list of ghosts from Pac-Man, you must output which ghosts are missing. Input Input will consist of a string, which will be a list of ghosts, which are; Blinky Inky Pinky Clyde However, the list may also include Pac-Man (with that punctua...

 
10:29 AM
^^^
 
try to create a 3-byte jelly answer
 
please pay my sandbox post attention this time
 
@TùxCräftîñg Won't work, this is strings
 
I think i may weep if this suffers the same fate as my KotH challenge
 
10:30 AM
you could do it in fewer bytes than the input strings
i think there was a hello world with fewer bytes, than the chars in "Hello, world!"
in some golfing lang
 
HQ9+: H
Stuck: nothing
 
help decimal in/output just means set numin and set numout, right?
 
I meant in a proper general purpose lang
brb
 
for sesos
 
Ꝇ°ꝇ unicode is ꟿeirȸ
 
10:36 AM
why is this even a character?
 
a broken L
visibly it's a ꟿeird latin letter
 
@DestructibleWatermelon For the username of @MamaFunRoll
 
^
Hello World @flawr
 
𝔥𝔢𝔩𝔩𝔬 𝔭𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔲𝔦𝔫 @𝔗ù𝔵𝕮𝔯ä𝔣𝔱îñ𝔤
 
10:39 AM
ok i surrender
 
Run for the hills
 
𝔶𝔬𝔲 𝔡𝔬𝔫'𝔱 𝔥𝔞𝔳𝔢 𝔱𝔬 𝔯𝔲𝔫 𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔪 𝔪𝔢
 
ಠ_ಠ
(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡 ┻━┻ flawr
TIL striked out table is still regular table
 
𝔭𝔩𝔢𝔞𝔰𝔢 𝔯𝔢𝔣𝔯𝔞𝔦𝔫 𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔪 𝔥𝔞𝔯𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔱𝔞𝔟𝔩𝔢𝔰
 
ɹʍɐꞁɟ╰(«○»益«○»)╯ɟꞁɐʍɹ
 
10:41 AM
(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡 ┻/┻ flawr
crossed out table
I'll teach you @flawr
 
(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻⌿┻ flawr
 
フラールは日本ごがすきですか。
 
10:45 AM
𝔦'𝔪 𝔫𝔬𝔱 𝔢𝔳𝔦𝔩. 𝔞𝔱 𝔩𝔢𝔞𝔰𝔱 𝔫𝔬𝔱 𝔞𝔩𝔴𝔞𝔶𝔰
 
ȸȹ
hi @Lynn
 
≤_≥
 
hooray for oversized gt an lt signs
????
 
OH NO FULL-WIDTH CHARS
Ĥ∃ŁΠ
 
10:47 AM
you have to agree that the semicolon is the best; it's so useful in so many ways.
 
⍮_⍮
 
Also it looks amazing; look at the mixture of colon and comma
 
@Downgoat I'm not aware that any of my garments have an SE account :D
 
≈_≈
brb
 
@Dennis help
 
10:50 AM
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ 𝔴𝔥𝔞𝔱 𝔡𝔬 𝔶𝔬𝔲 𝔫𝔢𝔢𝔡 𝔥𝔢𝔩𝔭 𝔴𝔦𝔱𝔥?
 
i dont have gothic letters but i have playing cards
🂠🂠🂠🂠🂠🂠🂠🂠🂠🂠🂠🂠🂠🂠🂠🂠🂠🂠🂠
 
𝔡𝔬 𝔦 𝔥𝔞𝔳𝔢 𝔱𝔬 𝔠𝔥𝔬𝔬𝔰𝔢 𝔬𝔫𝔢?
 
𝓘 𝓯𝓸𝓾𝓷𝓭 𝓼𝓹𝓮𝓬𝓲𝓪𝓵 𝓬𝓱𝓪𝓻𝓪𝓬𝓽𝓮𝓻𝓼
𝓱𝓪𝓱𝓪
 
…¯…
 
10:53 AM
I can't type with them in good time though
 
איך ליבע ווורשט.
 
mac has no alt codes
just alt plus the keys
bloody mac
 
𝔪𝔞𝔨𝔢 𝔞 𝔟𝔬𝔬𝔨𝔪𝔞𝔯𝔨𝔩𝔢𝔱=)
 
i use a compose key emulator
 
10:54 AM
i have mapped the compose key to right alt
 
tell me this sorcery
respected wizard
 
eg: altgr+A+&+A = Ꜳ
 
doesn't mac have ctrl+u codes
 
on linux the compose key is directly in XOrg
on windows there is WinCompose
on mac idk
 
what is control u
 
10:55 AM
on linux it's the equivalent of alt codes
 
@TùxCräftîñg i choose the third card from the right
 
i found one
 
help does anyone know sesos
 
but i'm not sure of its trustworthiness
 
10:56 AM
@TùxCräftîñg did I win?
 
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ what is sesos
 
8
Q: Add Compose key to OS X

MikeyBI want to change one of my keys on my keyboard to a Compose key so I can easily type common accents or characters, e.g.: Compose+e+' -> é. Is there a setting I can change or a program I can install to add this feature? For instance, I would like to use Caps Lock as Compose.

 
10:58 AM
ty
 
11:34 AM
0
Q: The fastest square root calculator

Mega ManWrite a program which outputs the square root of a given number in the shortest time possible. Rules It may not use any builtins or powering with numbers between 0 and 1. Given number means submitted as a function argument as a command line argument as a direct input on stdin or a window Y...

 
 
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12:35 PM
has anyone here been able to crack this yet?
 
Hi.
 
a emoji based cipher ಠ_ಠ
just a fancy sub cipher
 
Define "crack"
 
@Dennis I copied the timing script + output/timing method here, is that okay?
 

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