The Nineteenth Byte

TimmyD

2:00 PM

Although I like spaces over tabs, and that seems like a pretty controversial topic.

Geobits

flagged as offensive

It's about time :P

Katenkyo

tab's are much more easy to use when you have to indent 5/6 times than 2 spaces ^^

Dennis

Unless you configure your tab key to insert two spaces. shudders

Katenkyo

@Dennis It is disturbing to see it as 2 spaces...

TimmyD

Feb 11 at 20:42, by TimmyD

When I use Notepad++ for coding (which isn't often, anymore, since most things I do aren't in VBScript and instead are in PowerShell so I use the ISE) I have it macro'd to replace tabs with spaces.

Dennis

2:04 PM

@Katenkyo Couldn't agree more.

Katenkyo

I use Notepad++ when I golf, and need it to be able to put my 4-spaces before each line to post on this site :)

TimmyD

@Katenkyo Ctrl-k

Mars Ultor

@Katenkyo I use SOX, so I tab after pasting.

Katenkyo

@TimmyD Ctrl-k puts in comment :)

Geobits

Ctrl+k in the SE answer box.

It puts the 4-spaces in for you to code-block it.

Dennis

2:08 PM

It also works with tabs btw.

Geobits

^

Yea, my tab-filled Java always gets pasted with no issues :)

Except being Java.

Stewie Griffin

Quick question =)
Should I post http://meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/8681/31516 or not?

Katenkyo

Oh, thanks, didn't know for that Oo. And tab'ing while in the box will just change focus, which is not what I want :)

Dennis

But you can indent with tabs in your editor, then copy-paste.

Katenkyo

That's what I'm actually doing, and why I prefer to let it doing 4 spaces :)

Geobits

2:12 PM

@StewieGriffin I'd give it more time, personally, unless you're sure. It doesn't look like many have seen it, since it's only been there for a few not-super-busy hours.

Stewie Griffin

@Geobits, I was hoping for a few personal opinions, not a general consensus :) If a few people here are positive then it will probably be well-received... :)

Geobits

I don't think the pyramid volume formula is right, though.

Stewie Griffin

@Geobits, really? Area*h, where the area is given by Heron's formula? Is that wrong?

Geobits

I think that would be right for a triangular prism.

Beta Decay

Katenkyo

2:15 PM

@StewieGriffin that's not right for the area of a piramid

it's more like the area of a triangle-shaped cylinder

Stewie Griffin

Crap, it's of course: 1/3*A*h

crayzeedude

spooky

Geobits

@BetaDecay Does this mean you're back from the dead?

Beta Decay

@Geobits Possibly. I've kind of got GCSEs atm but I'll be back around summertime

Geobits

Ah... Enjoy, good luck, and all that misc stuff etc yada yada.

Beta Decay

2:21 PM

Thanks... Computer Science is killing me at the moment :P

Damn golfing taught me bas habits

Geobits

Well if you survive, you'll be happy to note that we "graduated" recently.

Beta Decay

We actually did it?

Mars Ultor

GCSE + CS = confused

Computer Science as a subject?

Beta Decay

Yup

Mars Ultor

What's it like? (What topics do you learn?)

In Australia it's so easy I wish I was doing it.

Beta Decay

2:26 PM

Databases, how the different parts of the motherboard, programming

The biggest part is a controlled assessment where you write a bloody mile long report about a piece of code which you design from a given task

zyabin101 the Hated

2:42 PM

Watch Shifty Eyes become an esoteric language... — tac Mar 4 at 0:58

bpaste.net/show/d71d7f975d96

Katenkyo

@zyabin101theHated what the brainfuck...

zyabin101 the Hated

@Katenkyo Yes :P Because without these emoticons, Shifty Eyes will become Sauce. And when I saw this comment, I couldn't resist.

I also took inspiration from Mouse.

crayzeedude

3:01 PM

@zyabin101theHated is that your own language?

zyabin101 the Hated

@crayzeedude Yes, it is.

crayzeedude

@zyabin101theHated nice!

Katenkyo

@zyabin101theHated That's one more proof that everything can, and will, be turned into an esoteric language at some point!

crayzeedude

quick

is there a way to execute a block for each item in an array in cjam or

//pls 4giv am noob

Mars Ultor

3:18 PM

IDK if % (map) or / (each) works

Like this: [<array>]{<block>}/

crayzeedude

i have r1/ to read a single int and put each digit in an array

trying to convert the strings to chars

wait no

strings to ints

Mars Ultor

you mean int to string?

crayzeedude

well

Mars Ultor

otherwise, use map

crayzeedude

it's reading the number as a string and putting each digit in the array as a string

Mars Ultor

3:22 PM

Then i will do.

crayzeedude

ok i got it thanks

using map worked

Mars Ultor

for me % turned it into an array of char codes, i will parse a string[] into an int

crayzeedude

?

Mars Ultor

cjam.aditsu.net/…

See how they're char codes?

wait

cjam.aditsu.net/…

crayzeedude

cjam.aditsu.net/#code=r1%2F%7Bi%7D%25&input=1234

thats what i have

Mars Ultor

3:27 PM

That didn't actually work, it's actually an int[], not an int

Tip: add ` to find the type

crayzeedude

o

Mars Ultor

That's an int[]

Use cjam.aditsu.net/#code=r1%2Fi%25&input=1234

wait

Sp3000

If you want to read an int, it's ri. If you want to read a number and convert it to a list of digits, it's r:~. And if you want a list of char codes it's r:i

crayzeedude

o wow

yeahhh i have much to learn

but what exactly does ~ do in that case?

Mars Ultor

eval

crayzeedude

3:29 PM

ah

and then you could use r:c or r:s if you need a char or string

heyyyy i'm learning stuff :D

Mars Ultor

dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15495351/cjam.pdf

crayzeedude

i already have that up actually

Mars Ultor

@crayzeedude No, it's rc and rs

crayzeedude

well

i meant an actual array of chars

or 1-character strings for whatever reason one might have

Mars Ultor

Hmm

Whoops, forgot ` (repr/toString) automatically converts char[]s into strings

Sp3000

3:34 PM

:c doesn't do anything to a string (fyi). And rs doesn't differ much from r either.

(In CJam, strings are arrays of chars - there's no difference between the two)

crayzeedude

yeah, i know that

though i usually find it easier to work with arrays of chars

but again i have much to learn

also is there a complete reference/cheat sheet for the two-character ops anywhere?

CoolestVeto

Are you kidding me SE?

I just got the "Welcome to Stack Exchange chat!" message.

?

ಠ_ಠ

rip

3:42 PM

@CoolestVeto It's new.

crayzeedude

i got that yesterday too

CoolestVeto

oh

Geobits

By the way, Welcome to Stack Exchange Chat!

CoolestVeto

ihaichu

Geobits

Should I raichu an apology?

Easterly Irk

3:46 PM

Any advice on this?

It doesn't print the number, but that isn't specified. It that a loophole that doesn't matter?

Aqua Tart

I just tried out Akinator and he guessed Imoen from Baldur's Gate after 75 questions. Not bad.

Easterly Irk

What?

Geobits

Yea Akinator is fun :)

zyabin101 the Hated

@AquaTart Akinator?

Easterly Irk

oh that

en.akinator.com

@AquaTart ^

TimmyD

3:51 PM

I've got a 20Q at home. It's pretty fascinating.

20Q

== Principle and historyEdit == == Handheld deviceEdit == == Game showEdit == == ReferencesEdit == == External linksEdit... ==

crayzeedude

i used to have one of those "deluxe" 20Qs. prism-shaped, larger screen, etc.

was pretty neat

Easterly Irk

@TimmyD is it good at guessing?

Kevin W.

@TimmyD Animal, vegetable, or mineral?

Geobits

They're not bad for normal stuff. The database is only so big, though.

TimmyD

Yeah, it's not too shabby.

Easterly Irk

3:54 PM

@KevinW. None, Fruit.

Geobits

>_<

TimmyD

I picked it up right away when they came out, maybe Christmas 2004, so it was a huge deal back then.

Geobits

I coded one as a project from a book ages ago.

TimmyD

Obviously neural networks and computational power both have come a long way in the past dozen years.

Easterly Irk

@Geobits ^_^

Geobits

3:56 PM

Yea, mine was a straight lookup with booleans. Like I said, ages ago.

Easterly Irk

@TimmyD [citation-needed] for the neural network one. Marky is living proof.

A and N

@Dennis Can you please pull 05AB1E?

Geobits

> Marky is living proof.

>_>

I don't know how to tell you this, but...

Easterly Irk

Fine, chatting proof.

Katenkyo

Akinator needed 57 questions to guess what I was thinking of x)

zyabin101 the Hated

3:58 PM

@Katenkyo What?

Easterly Irk

@Geobits ... tabs are amazing and the only true method of identation.

@Katenkyo DONUT?

Geobits

@EasterlyIrk Well yes. Clearly.

Katenkyo

Elric of melniboné :)

He had a close guess while saying Siegfried, but failed once :D

Easterly Irk

@Geobits Oh good, I thought you were a heretic. :P

Aqua Tart

@EasterlyIrk videogamedunkey actually did a video about it which is how I found out about it.

Geobits

4:01 PM

Awww, he guessed Tien instead of Krillin. Bad Akinator!

Aqua Tart

I'm going to try my absolute hardest to think of the most obscure character possible

Easterly Irk

@AquaTart wait videogamedunkey is someone other than your donkey?

Brain Lot

@AquaTart The moment you find the most obscure character ever, it will no longer be the most obscure character ever.

Easterly Irk

Akinator thinks Elrond is NSFW. :P

Katenkyo

waht the fuck...

Dennis

4:03 PM

@AandN Pulled.

A and N

Thanks :)

Katenkyo

I was thinking of the main character of school days...

Easterly Irk

@Katenkyo Elrond is the same way. :P

Akinator, Elrond is not Clippy.

@AquaTart relavent to your search

Katenkyo

I guess akinator puts that when he can't find :p

Alright, I'm gonna try with nemo from Mr. Nobody

zyabin101 the Hated

> Found 9,710 results

Katenkyo

4:06 PM

forbidden...

On that epic fail, I'm leaving!

Have a nice day guys!

TimmyD

@BrainLot Kinda like the interesting number paradox

Easterly Irk

Well, Akinator apparently has an evil twin named Rokinator. WTF?

Geobits

Akinator absolutely failed on Marlene from FFVII. You could tell it was getting desperate toward the end, too.

Easterly Irk

But he couldn't guess himself.

Aqua Tart

Dammit he got it

Alex Kidd

It took him a while though.

@EasterlyIrk Yes.

zyabin101 the Hated

4:09 PM

Bye Katenkyo!

TimmyD

> it was getting desparate

Aqua Tart

> Character already played 1715 times

TimmyD

Turing test confirmed

Aqua Tart

:/

Easterly Irk

Wow, he got Chrono from Chronotrigger? Woah.

He actually guessed Marlene from FF though.

Brain Lot

4:09 PM

I thought of Howard Stern. You could tell he nailed it because the last three questions were "Is your character a radio show host?" "Is your character a radio show host?" "Is your character a radio show host?" (repeated the same question three times)

LegionMammal978

Geobits

@EasterlyIrk It's a main character. He better get that one.

LegionMammal978

SE thinks I'm stupid

Easterly Irk

@LegionMammal978 everybody got that.

Doorknob

19 hours ago, by Doorknob

@flawr It's a new message. Every signed in user sees it once and never again.

LegionMammal978

4:10 PM

Oh, it's new

I see

Easterly Irk

@LegionMammal978 s/thinks I\'m/is/

Doorknob

why would you escape the quote

LegionMammal978

@Doorknob \F\o\r\ \s\a\f\e\t\y

Easterly Irk

@Doorknob Because they\'re fun to escape.

2

TimmyD

> Is your character a porn addict.

O.O

Easterly Irk

4:11 PM

Question: Does Alex have a six pack?

Geobits

@TimmyD Well, is he??

zyabin101 the Hated

@EasterlyIrk Alex is a bird.

Easterly Irk

oh yea

TimmyD

> Is your character a sex maniac?

WTH type of game is this?!

Geobits

More like who did you pick to lead it down this path?

Kevin W.

4:13 PM

@TimmyD One on the internet; everything leads there eventually

Easterly Irk

> Did your character die escaping from prison

LegionMammal978

> Did your character never exist in the first place?

TimmyD

> Does your character spend a lot of time in bed?

Easterly Irk

Well, 150 tries later Alex A. was never guessed.

TimmyD

> Does your character live with their best friend?

Geobits

4:16 PM

@EasterlyIrk You said no to "is your character a real person?", right?

Aqua Tart

Guessed Tracer in 19 questions.

Easterly Irk

@Geobits No... Sorry.

Aqua Tart

I thought he wouldn't know because Overwatch was new but apparently not...

Easterly Irk

But he did ask if he was a bird, and I said yes

Geobits

:D

Easterly Irk

4:18 PM

And no to has a six pack. I don't think birds have those.

TimmyD

> Bravo. You have defeated me.

Easterly Irk

> Does your character have an obsession with llamas?

TimmyD

Didn't know Monkeyfarm (modestly popular YouTuber who does mostly Minecraft videos)

Aqua Tart

Guessed Dennis pretty quickly too.

That one was cool because none of his questions looked like he was getting close too...

Dennis

@AquaTart What now?

Aqua Tart

4:20 PM

Dennis the Menace not Dennis the Golfer

<--

^

^

^

@AlexA. Akinator doesn't know you.

Aqua Tart

4:21 PM

Dammit it guessed Shulker

crayzeedude

so

Aqua Tart

1.9 came out like 3 days ago...

Easterly Irk

roflmao

Minecraft nerds take to the skies to publicize it apparently. :P

crayzeedude

why is it that if i use # in a block it tries to find an index instead of taking one item on the stack raised to another?

Aqua Tart

All right, this time he won't get it.

Dennis

4:23 PM

@crayzeedude # is power for two numbers, index for everything else.

TimmyD

Dang ... he got Cool Spot (the 7-Up mascot) in like 15 guesses.

Dennis

What on Earth are y'all talking about?

TimmyD

Akinator

crayzeedude

and i have two numbers on the top of the stack when i try to use it?

Doorknob

@Dennis I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking this

Aqua Tart

4:24 PM

Thought of Reggie Fils-Aime, guessed Bill Gates. HA

Dennis

@TimmyD That raises more questions than it answers.

@crayzeedude Apparently not.

TimmyD

Yes, that's what he does.

crayzeedude

huh.

LegionMammal978

Spilled some water on my keyboard

Dennis

@crayzeedude Do you have a link?

LegionMammal978

4:25 PM

Just finished draining it out

TimmyD

@Dennis Have you ever played Twenty Questions? This is a web version of that.

Aqua Tart

Guessed Steve Wozniak. pls

crayzeedude

cjam.aditsu.net/#code=r%3A~2%2F_%2C%7B~%23%7D*&input=1234

RIP

LegionMammal978

@crayzeedude It creates quines?

Aqua Tart

Oh, he finally got it.

crayzeedude

4:27 PM

no?

TimmyD

@AquaTart Well, he's vaguely in the right category of people.

Doorknob

Aqua Tart

OK, this time I'm thinking of Jon Skeet.

Doorknob

WHAT

Aqua Tart

@Doorknob rekt

4

Doorknob

4:28 PM

it got it on the first try too O_o

TimmyD

Hah

crayzeedude

before the block starts, there are arrays of digits each with length 2

as well as a number representing the number of pairs on the stack

Geobits

The expression on his face is great, too. "Nethack? Please."

Dennis

@crayzeedude ~ will unwrap the array, pushing [1 2] and [3 4] on the stack.

# is index of those.

Aqua Tart

Hmm, does jon skeet qualify as famous

crayzeedude

4:30 PM

yeah, yeah

but i thought that it would take one number raised to the power of the other

Geobits

@AquaTart He's a cult classic. Not sure about famous.

crayzeedude

since they're plain numbers on top of the stack

Dennis

There are no numbers on the stack. You are not mapping the block.

Geobits

I bet he can't guess Greg from down the street.

crayzeedude

unless i'm just plain doing it wrong

Dennis

4:32 PM

r:~2/{~#}% would work.

(not the golfy way though)

LegionMammal978

Now that's just cheating

crayzeedude

except if the input is an odd number of digits in length, it takes the rest of it raised to the final digit which i don't want

LegionMammal978

Was thinking of this guy

Easterly Irk

He does that or says they are NSFW if he gives up.

Dennis

@crayzeedude :# instead of ~# fixes that.

LegionMammal978

4:41 PM

Apparently, SkyDoesMinecraft is perfectly random

Easterly Irk

The wizard of yendor is not NSFW.

Aqua Tart

So far Jon Skeet has Akinator stumped

He did guess John McAleese which made me lol

Ha-ha! I stumped Akinator.

> Bravo! You have defeated me!

Well that was easy

Wow, guessed Etho in 17 questions. That was fast.

I love how the picture is "YOU'VE BEEN ETHO'D"

ROFL it actually guessed tagg

Although he called him "Taggerung"

haven't heard that in years

Stumped Akinator with LOLYOU but I think that was mostly because I answered some of the questions wrong

(LOLYOU was in the database so)

Hmm what obscure gamer should I do next

I love how the first question after "does your character play CS:GO" is always "is your character a reptile." Totally not a LeafyIsHere check

defeated Akinator with Lex Phantomhive

This is getting easier

Aqua Tart

5:12 PM

@Doorknob Akinator guessed the Wizard of Yendor ;_;

Doorknob

/claps

Aqua Tart

I was so certain I had him....

OK, beat Akinator with Niels Abel.

That one I did not expect

Anonymous

5:29 PM

@xnor It's also important for answers which use parts from other answers to give attribution, because SE content is licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0 with attribution required. I'm not saying that's the case here, as the answer in question is very close to what I got independently, and is reasonable for it to be a completely independent solution, but it's something to remember.

CoolestVeto

Guys I diiiiid it. :D I can forward MC now.

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