We love math, physics, chemistry and random talk.

M.A.Ramezani

17:00

@ADG You don't need improving. You mean well.

But you shouldn't be so loose on using words.

Specially on the Net.

ADG

well wish I had that memory machine from MIB

Mann

What would be scided

.-.

ADG

@Mann remeber INDIGO?

Mann

That gandhi chapter?

ADG

Kumar was a sharecroper farmer

M.A.Ramezani

17:01

Apparently, being so loose with words is the property of every single guy in this room.

Mann

I don't , I read every chapter last minute

ADG

gandhiji scided lawyers for taking too much fees from peasants to represent them at court

Mann

loool

AH

@M.A.Ramezani , we are just like that hehe

M.A.Ramezani

This room should be renamed to Loosenification machine.

ADG

@M.A.Ramezani actualy most people with chemistry are tight with words

@M.A.Ramezani that's an insult

Mann

17:02

Well , this is sparta.

ADG

HAHA

@Mann get the meme

M.A.Ramezani

@ADG In fact, the worlds of math.SE and chem.SE differ very much.

ADG

I didn't watched the movie or saw it but just because you used it i wathecd the 1 min video where he kicked and said this is sparta

@M.A.Ramezani actually only chem.SE differs

Mann

This is Sparta! Last techno remix

►

M.A.Ramezani

Again, PhDs in math would get tight with words...That's what scientists always do.

Mann

17:03

Why end at meme!

ADG

I like very society other than that

Mann

I wouldn't believe me.

I'd getting more high on disorder :D

ADG

@Mann no you're normal

M.A.Ramezani

But math.SE is so big, mods are loose on moderation.

ADG

tanu weds manu returns dekhi

Mann

17:04

haaan

kal hi dekhi thi lol

ADG

@M.A.Ramezani nope they are not so formal and consider that we are humans

@Mann maine aaj

kaisi lagi

Mann

@M.A.Ramezani , i am informal 24/7 :D

M.A.Ramezani

So people see no problem in being loose with words.

Mann

9/10

:D

or more

ADG

@M.A.Ramezani if I answer some question in short everyone accepts it and upvotes it as long it helps

M.A.Ramezani

17:05

23 hours ago, by M.A.Ramezani

A HW chem question looks like an imbecile trying to use you and get the hell of the answer outta ya, but a math Q, even when it's obvious that it's HW and its OP is a help vampire, looks like a delicious puzzle that asks solving.

The same goes with short answers.

The asker feels that way.

Chem isn't like math.

ADG

but it really frustates me and makes me think some people at chem.Se stupid when they downvote and try to delete my post because it is short.

M.A.Ramezani

In math, you can say 2x+2x = 4x.

Mann

That's why i mostly use, math hehe

ADG

forexample the answer to : Why doesn't Anti-Markonikov happens with other than bromine is just that others have positive heat of enthalpy

you can go on and explain it in 20pages too

M.A.Ramezani

In chemistry, when you say "no, the proton will attack from the other side." you're expected to say why.

Get the picture?

ADG

17:07

but as long it is short and too the point and helps anyone which is looking for the answer, it should be fine

@M.A.Ramezani well your case is not a fact, if enthalpy is positive, it i s, you can't explain why...

M.A.Ramezani

@ADG How do you know the short answer helps the OP?

ADG

@M.A.Ramezani we are humans

Mann

1

Q: Find $(f^{-1})'(a) = f(x) = 2x^3 + 3x^2+7x+4, a=4 $

Find $(f^{-1})'(a) = f(x) = 2x^3 + 3x^2+7x+4, a=4 $ How do I go about solving a problem like this? What are the steps?

calculus

M.A.Ramezani

@ADG A lot of things can be explained.

And should be explained.

ADG

you can become very nitpicky if you want but that doesn't help anyone

@M.A.Ramezani like what?

they are bound to be another manifestation of it

M.A.Ramezani

17:08

@ADG You keep saying that. Look. Imagine a mechanism question.

Mann

$$\huge{GRABS POPCORN}$$

M.A.Ramezani

You say "OK I know that this will be an anti-addition and..."

ADG

mereko sidhe sidhe bat karne ke liye hindi pe utarna padega

M.A.Ramezani

But the OP wouldn't know why it would be an anti-addition!

You assume that the OP knows how to get the answer, so you provide the answer.

That usually isn't the case.

ADG

?? he is asking why doesn't it happen with other than bromine, where can other such things come from,

Mann

17:10

0

Q: If $(I-A)(I+A)^{-1}$ is orthogonal then prove that A is skew symmetric.

Question from Determinants.Can't solve !

matrices determinant

M.A.Ramezani

And you say?

ADG

@M.A.Ramezani if you explain it whole then it wil be like you're doing their homework

M.A.Ramezani

@Mann My man! Next time activate the feeds so I can swear at SE's bot OK? I can't swear at a real human.

ADG

they should research somthing atleast

give them a hint atleast

Mann

How do you activate a feed .-.

M.A.Ramezani

17:12

Hints aren't the final answer!

ADG

@Mann see, how it is, it just tells how impatient he is, bitter but true

@M.A.Ramezani so why do you have a homework policy then??

ab aaya unt pahad ke niche

M.A.Ramezani

@ADG That's not for all of the questions.

You're applying it for all of them.

Questions must be answered completely.

Homework shouldn't have gotten answered.

But then, some guys said HW questions can be useful.

ADG

@M.A.Ramezani which questions, specify. [3rd line]

M.A.Ramezani

Specially the challenging ones.

@ADG All chemistry questions must be answered.

ADG

Ok you just post a hint, wait if OP understands, if not explain a little, if it is required for the general society,we aren't lectureres se?

Mann

17:15

THis is so intense

M.A.Ramezani

As I was saying, so because some said HW might be useful, we allowed them, only if they provided the asker's effort.

ADG

@M.A.Ramezani so why not chemistry homework?

Mann

OOO

M.A.Ramezani

@Mann It's gonna get better.

Mann

HAHA :D

ADG

17:16

@Mann ln x<sqrt(x) fro 0<x<1 true or false

M.A.Ramezani

23 hours ago, by M.A.Ramezani

A HW chem question looks like an imbecile trying to use you and get the hell of the answer outta ya, but a math Q, even when it's obvious that it's HW and its OP is a help vampire, looks like a delicious puzzle that asks solving.

ADG

bhains ke aage bin baja raha hun :D

M.A.Ramezani

See why?

Mann

koi na tumse na ho payga xD

ADG

@M.A.Ramezani I'm not talking about that anymore, there's no benefit to me finally, I was just helping chem.Se

M.A.Ramezani

17:16

Englise lotfan.

@ADG Well you didn't know how to.

ADG

@Mann batana tmwr main kya kaisa laga?

Mann

true? ln x is negative D:

main kya?

M.A.Ramezani

OK this is getting Hindi. I'm gonna go play some games. Be here when you guys' English mode turns on again.

ADG

@Mann mera answer sahi hai kya yahan pe math.stackexchange.com/questions/1315955/…

Mann

@M.A.Ramezani , :( Don't :(

ADG

17:19

post some mathjax

i wanna test my chatjax, it's not working maybe

Mann

$\bbox[black]{\color{white}{hi}}$

ADG

$$\huge\int_0^1\frac{\ln(1-x)}x=??$$

yaya it's working noe, it stopped somewhereinbetween

Mann

THE INTEGRAL oo lemme see

ADG

You make stupid boxes, let the experts (me) do it (bura na mano 11 bajne wale hain)

Mann

DO IT QUICK

:D

ADG

17:21

$$\huge \bbox[5px,border:2px solid red]{\text{Satyam Shivam Sundaram}}$$

Mann

WOw

ADG

live example at @M.A.Ramezani here math.stackexchange.com/a/1315972/67609

Mann

What if i put this as tagline in end of my every question

ROFL

ADG

we'll take this line:

$$\huge \bbox[5px,border:2px solid red]{\text{Sare Jahan Se Accha ...}}$$

Mann

Or this

See, my failure. math.stackexchange.com/questions/1315959/…

ADG

17:24

huge popcorn is not working

Mann

Why not tho

Never mind.

I have 15 69 points in math. Life level +!

ADG

Ihave nothing

Mann

Nothing either. .-.

Solving integral sec

Using differentiation

M.A.Ramezani

@ADG For god's sake!

$\ovalbox{\mathbf{Chem.SE isn't Math.SE!!!}}$

What?

Doesn't support Oval box?

Shtoopid MathJaX!

But the point remains: Math.SE isn't Chem.SE.

ADG

@M.A.Ramezani stupid you, stop saying stupid to others

it hurts

MathJax!=Latex BTW @M.A.Ramezani

He cam eto me and said

"ADG AGD, MAR hurt me..."

M.A.Ramezani

17:28

@ADG Sorry. I didn't know your other name was MathJaX.

ADG

see the new message

Mann

Is the answer e wtf, I am doing some weird stuff

M.A.Ramezani

@ADG LaTeX does have \Ovalbox.

Mann

or not

not

M.A.Ramezani

MathJaX doesn't support it.

ADG

17:30

@Mann cd drive kharab ho gayi hai sari cds empty dikha rahi hai :(

maine socha GTA vice city kheloon par *cry*

Mann

I know that feel, probably the optical sensor or some shit like that "(

M.A.Ramezani

Oh! You have kharab too?

Mann

GTA vice city is old :D

ADG

@M.A.Ramezani did you googled satyam shivam.. what did you found.

@Mann meri pen drive main dal dena aur facebook bhi dono install kar loonga

@M.A.Ramezani depends what you're inferring the meaning of it as...

M.A.Ramezani

@ADG Beauty-Godliness-Don't remember.

Mann

17:32

$$\huge{\huge{WHAAAT?}}$$

ADG

"The True, God and The Beautiful"

M.A.Ramezani

@ADG We call broken things kharab in Persian.

Mann

That we too! oo

ADG

persian evolved from hindi when traders.... I won't explain but give an example

M.A.Ramezani

If Martin was here, he was gonna say Don't abuse MathJaX!

Seriously though.

What's with all the TeX overenthusiasm?

Mann

17:33

I abuse a lot :(

@ADG that feel when math.stackexchange.com/questions/1315959/…

ADG

@M.A.Ramezani He thinks he's everything, the boss, the god, I don't like it. any insults are purely coincidental and unintentional but truth is bitter

Mann

Such faillss $$\huge{HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA}$$

M.A.Ramezani

@ADG Then don't use a word you don't know!

I was calling MathJaX stupid, not you.

ADG

@Mann wwhy not. tell you a short story he modified my post saying, don't abuse mathjax and i felt irritated, then I modified around 10 posts that had similar thngs but were not touched but.

Mann

I am all ears

eyess*

ADG

17:35

@Mann isko translate kar dena "for MAR" : [are main keh raha tha ki mathjax mere pas aaye or boli ke " Adg Adg "(2 saal ke chote bacche jaise) phir... mar ne meri insult ki]

even the sin cos etc. names arised form hindi from indian mathematicians works

Mann

OFcourse

M.A.Ramezani

@ADG Aha!

The west leads the science now.

That doesn't mean they were as awesome before.

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

@ADG I'm not sure what you have in mind. Are you gonna blog your solutions to those problems?

Mann

@AdityaAgarwal BC, room nahi join karta but on MSE

ADG

sin cos and sin-inverse were called jya, cojya and otkram jya

@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut just a guideline, not the serius bolgger who post codes solutions and baal ki khal nikal deta hai

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

17:38

ah

ADG

when it was translated by the traders or people which cam ein india it's name changed little by little while reaching europe and east and finally we had sin cos etc.

Mann

kash mere mein bhi koi gun hote, .-.

ADG

@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut you're ravi shankar?

Mann

Yes

ADG

@Mann english gun or hindi gun

Mann

17:39

hindi

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

@ADG Why? Do you have a reason to doubt my name? :P

ADG

@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut this one? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravi_Shankar

Mann

What if RAVI shankar was not real, what if this whole world was a lie

ADG

Tell me how to get a stack T-shirt

should I just copy the llogo in paint and just print it?

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

@Mann Exactly!

ADG

17:40

i knew it all this time

thanks for confirming

Mann

What if i don't exist!

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog

"On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog" is an adage which began as a cartoon caption by Peter Steiner and published by The New Yorker on July 5, 1993. The cartoon features two dogs: one sitting on a chair in front of a computer, speaking the caption to a second dog sitting on the floor. As of 2011, the panel was the most reproduced cartoon from The New Yorker, and Steiner has earned over US $50,000 from its reprinting. == History == Peter Steiner, a cartoonist and contributor to The New Yorker since 1979, said the cartoon initially did not get a lot of attention, but later took on a life of...

Mann

I am a cow , secretely

ADG

@Mann have you done with trasnslation or need some formulaes

Mann

You would never know.

translation of what?

ADG

17:41

[are main keh raha tha ki mathjax mere pas aaye or boli ke " Adg Adg "(2 saal ke chote bacche jaise) phir... mar ne meri insult ki] for MAR

M.A.Ramezani

@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut Everyone knows I'm a chair cyclohexane. If you don't believe me, look at my avatar.

ADG

why is chat trying to repeat my message two times each

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

heh

ADG

@M.A.Ramezani I a boat cyclohexane sometimes

Mann

Nono, i understand that. mujhe itni hindi aati hai :D

ADG

17:42

but i prefer to have my axial positions apart

@Mann I asked you to translate it so that MAR could understand

@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut would you help?

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

@ADG Help what?

ADG

@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut you're south indian, right? your face looks like

Mann

So, I was saying that, mathjax should come to me and say " adg adg" (like a 2 year old baby child)then , mar insulted me.

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

@ADG yeah

ADG

translating maybe, if you have time, if you're interested ,

shoul dis not the corretc word to use

Mann

17:43

I am NOrth indian punjab de sher javan puttar

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

No, kinda busy right now (just came to reply) ... sorry

Mann

sasriakal

M.A.Ramezani

@ADG So what? I call some code shtoopid and you feel insulted to your death?

ADG

@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut thanks for clarifiying, go on, best of luck with your future, i see you have a bright future, and you're a genius too

@M.A.Ramezani it wa sonly apt for the minute time window I spoke, it holds no sense now

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

@ADG Thanks. I'm flattered again

ADG

17:45

@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut how do you define flattered, happy or happy by praised?

Mann

You are made to be flattered. .-.

M.A.Ramezani

You know it's really typical to call something stupid.

When no one's offended, you shouldn't be.

Mann

unlike me, always ""khote da putt, kuch jindagi ch kar vi leya kar""

ADG

@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut did you saw the ISIS thingie------------>

M.A.Ramezani

That's the point man!

@ADG Heh. That's some guy who's lacking attention...Poor guy.

Thinks he'll get attention when he calls himself terrorist.

ADG

17:47

@M.A.Ramezani hmmm... so why did Lordstryker said me dick and got no flags or sus and edited it when anyone could see it and my reply instead garnered free flags?

Mann

But funny. :D

M.A.Ramezani

Don't give him what he wants.

@ADG Wha?

ADG

Some associations really don't tke it as joke

Mann

I still found it funny. lol

M.A.Ramezani

Where?

Link!

ADG

17:47

@M.A.Ramezani 28 that's half a month ago, will search it

guess it' s name invited many downvotes/ the isis man

Mann

Ya that tho

M.A.Ramezani

@ADG It's some psychological thing.

Some people say

> OK, I couldn't get attention.

Mann

Am I the only one who find it funny. .-.

ADG

see this

chat.stackexchange.com/messages/21634567/history

he needs severe punishment

Mann

> WHY SO SERIOUS

M.A.Ramezani

17:50

> So if I can't be the good guy and the hero, let's be the villain and get attention.

ADG

very disappointing comping this from a teacher who is old enough and would have experience both in life and teaching. hhmm

@Mann get the meme for it too

why have you trying to freeze you average temperature

so that your entropy decreases

Mann

Indeed. My ENERGY IS SO DISPERSED

ADG

and you have become un-random now

HAHA

LOL x3

Mann

un-random that'd big lie

I DISAGREE

ADG

@Mann did you saw chat.stackexchange.com/messages/21634567/history

the last line

Mann

17:52

Ofcourse

I had read that long ago

I joined a moment later there

ADG

@Mann it's true you didn't get the why so serious meme (I know I'm being ...)

Mann

I HAVE A 10 KBPS NET CALM DOWN xD

which constantly goes 0

> Phase opening image

> about to download

M.A.Ramezani

@ADG I saw it.

But you can't flag that because of its revision history.

ADG

@M.A.Ramezani don't you see it as abusive/swearing or such

Mann

> Phase upload

M.A.Ramezani

17:55

What if he was angry at that point, but then cooled off?

ADG

@M.A.Ramezani well i can swear at you 30 time now and then say i was angry then but now i have cooled

M.A.Ramezani

It's Lordstryker ya know.

Mann

> Phase upload

ADG

such an action is not allowed whatsoever the reason

M.A.Ramezani

He came to ELL's chat and insulted some of us.

Mann

17:55

Everyone can get angry, i disagree that argument :D

M.A.Ramezani

Then Snailboat threw all messages in trash and ignored everything?

Mann

That doesn't mean they can go off and randomly call people dicklol

ADG

@M.A.Ramezani really how? I'm interested in the story

M.A.Ramezani

@Mann Yes.

ADG

it is just a degenrate case where the moderator flowed with the sentimental values

you are unnecessarily formal when it doesn't needs to and not when it necessary!

M.A.Ramezani

17:57

@ADG Well, he went venturing on ELL. Answered a question and then a so-called A-hole asked him for reference. While he was a native speaker himself.

@ADG Some words can't be explained by others.

ADG

@M.A.Ramezani anything such happens again and i'll make sure...

M.A.Ramezani

And if we're to solve issues, informality would become a big problem.

ADG

@M.A.Ramezani so not that you bend down and start abusing?

M.A.Ramezani

@ADG Yeah well, Lord sometimes can get irritated so fast.

Mann

Exactly, that is not good,

ADG

17:58

well I said this back about you that you're a young moderator for chat and someone (Secondrikudo maybe) came you made you moderator

Mann

that is equivalent to showing illogical ego. I hate it (lord .s)

M.A.Ramezani

@ADG Yes it was the 2nd Rikudo.

ADG

and when you were irritating me i said "stupid don't irritate me and " where i used stupid as jhandu, don't know what mental state my mind told to type in hindi, you could never understand that

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