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12:47 AM
Since the patch didn't come today, is it likely we'll have to wait until next Tuesday?
Or is there a chance they'll do a mid-week update?
 
12:58 AM
@StrixVaria or @GraceNote
 
They've done some patches on weekends.
Sometimes on Thursdays
It's pretty unpredictable
I remember with the Leona patch
Instead of patching the game
They completely took it down for 2 days
And when it came back you couldn't even buy Leona
 
Oh wow. o.O
And Leona sucks, so... That's terrible.
 
Regarding the new tag: basically, because Irelia's kit is very diverse (was formerly potent in both magical and physical, has True damage, has Sustain, has gap closer, has CC, has anti-CC), she's very annoying to balance. Which led to Morello deciding to nerf her.
A lot. To the point that if you mention anything, then it's time that we "Better nerf Irelia".
"We added life steal runes" -> Better Nerf Irelia!
"Red Buff now has a weaker slow" -> Better Nerf Irelia!
"TRYNDAMERE IS SO OP!" -> Better Nerf Irelia!
Etc., etc.
 
@Tristan Hey, she's pretty great at stun-locking
 
@GraceNote Thanks for the clarification!
 
1:03 AM
Did you ever try her other than the one game?
Because she's not really meant to solo-lane
 
@FallenAngelEyes I did not... Because I didn't enjoy her at all when I used her. <.<
 
@Tristan Well, she's a supporty tank, and without anyone to support, she's a bit subpar, especially as you can't take advantage of her passive then.
 
@FallenAngelEyes Now that you mention it... I forgot we were only doing a 3v3 custom. For some reason, I thought your 'solo-lane' didn't make sense. And then I remembered.
 
@Tristan I'd give her another shot the next time she comes around
 
@FallenAngelEyes That seems fair.
 
 
2 hours later…
3:06 AM
They released Ziggs patch notes.
 
Where?
Oh, of course, the first link on the main page.
 
I loaded up the client to see if the patch was out yet. It isn't yet, but it said the patch notes were out so I imagine the patch should hopefully be coming soon.
 
So, @John was wondering if any of us would be willing to play Heroes of Newerth since it's Linux capable...
 
No.
 
> Enchanted Crystal Arrow now grants vision while in flight.
 
3:07 AM
I will not play a game with denying.
 
Denying?
 
Killing your own creeps to prevent the opposing team from getting experience.
 
In the original DotA and several derivatives, when your own creeps are below a certain health level, you can auto-attack them.
 
That sounds a little cheap...
 
If you kill them, you severely reduce the experience the enemy would've gotten. This is called denying.
 
3:09 AM
@Tristan It's just part of the gameplay for those games.
It's balanced just fine, but I personally find it less enjoyable.
 
@Tristan A major design decision in League of Legends was to remove denying and never turn back.
 
It supposedly increases the skill cap during laning.
 
I could see why. Handicapping a team seems pretty unfair.
 
That's the argument for it.
 
(even though I only play against bots...)
 
3:09 AM
It's not handicapping a team, though.
Both teams can do it.
The reason LoL decided against it is because it slows down the early game progression, and so that there would be more of a focus on offense and harassing the opposing champ as opposed to defense.
 
@StrixVaria The harassing and pushing are two of the main reasons I like LoL so much.
 
Exactly
That's why I don't want to turn back to a game with denying
Denying seems more like busy-work than LoL, which seems to have more strategy and positioning
More Morgana nerfs :(
Slight AP ratio reduction on her ult
 
Sivir nerfs, too
 
Some pretty good Ashe buffs
 
> Minor tweak to Rammus' dance to actually rotate around his center axis when on his back
Hehe
 
3:14 AM
That settles that. I'm buying Rammus.
<.<
 
I'm going to do a quick match before heading to bed.
 
@GraceNote I'd join you, but my internet is acting up worse than usual tonight. =\
 
@Strix?
 
No thanks.
 
3:35 AM
@StrixVaria Oh good! I saw the artist spotlight on him, but this is nice.
 
@Tristan awww durn :/
 
He looks pretty awkward
 
@StrixVaria he looks extremely fun to me.
 
Awkward and fun aren't mutually exclusive
 
He is being bought ASAP for me. ^_^
 
3:39 AM
His ult looks like it does too much damage
Either that or Phreak is way overfed in this video
Why does he have 20 rune pages!?
 
@StrixVaria @RavenDreamer has 13 rune pages...
 
I thought you could only have 9...
 
I know they increased the cap, but I can't remember to what.
 
3:52 AM
@StrixVaria Recent update increased it to 20
 
At 6300 IP each, I don't think I'll be getting any no matter how high they make the cap
 
Patch still isn't out, though.
Also, YESSS, TONS OF DAMAGE.
 
@GraceNote Talkin' bout Ziggs? =3
 
Well, Phreak more accurately, but yes by proxy.
One of many "Champion Spotlight" traditions is Phreak saying something does "TONS OF DAMAGE". There's also him playing virtually any hero as a jungler, and also building Triforces on everything.
 
What hero doesn't benefit from a Trinity Force?
It gives pretty much every stat :)
 
4:00 AM
@StrixVaria I got it on Sion once. I immediately realized my mistake and sold it to purchase Infinity Edge.
 
Alright, patch isn't out, I'm going to call it a night. G'nite all~
 
But on that note, I'm going to bed. Maybe I'll sleep later than 3 am. G'night everyone.
 
4:12 AM
@Tristan Only one of which has been bought with IP. I got 1 bonus for being around for so long, and then bought a 7 pack with RP.
And it's 11, not 13.
 
 
7 hours later…
11:05 AM
Servers are up and running and Ziggs has been released and quickly purchased! ^_^
 
 
2 hours later…
12:40 PM
Oh, quick note, do not run anything like LoL Replay, it causes the game to crash. :)
 
@Zamual05 Since the patch or what? Because I've never had a prob with LoL Replay.
 
@FallenAngelEyes Yeah. The patch doesn't work with it.
 
Blagh
@StrixVaria Nooooooooooooooooooo :(
 
@FallenAngelEyes Yep
 
12:58 PM
> Added a new option, "Show Smartcast Ranges"
Ooooh
I may just turn on Smartcast now then permanently
 
Ziggs is fuuuuun. ^_^
So very very fun.
 
I liked that ult you had at the end on Ryze
It came out of nowhere
 
:P
I love that it makes the missile whistling sound as it travels. :)
 
Up for another match?
 
Yesh! ^_^
 
1:09 PM
I'll get in too if we start quickly
 
Two games, only one new bot. >.<
 
Yeah seriously
 
patches
 
I am gonna blow that one up, and that one up and of course that one too! Myahahahahahahahaha!
 
I can hear your cackle from here
 
1:13 PM
My cats are hiding. ^_^
He laughs as he walks. :)
 
1:31 PM
I hear the new bots are more prevalent on Intermediate level
 
Actually, I was surprised Shen did anything different on beginner
 
I can't find the Smartcast option anymore O_o
 
The last beginner game I played seemed standard fare
 
He still doesn't use Vorpal Blade! Ever!
 
I'll have to try out intermediate after work
 
1:32 PM
I can find the option to turn on the visible ranges, but not Smartcast itself. Does turning on the ranges just turn on Smartcast too now?
 
It's like the most aggravating thing about facing Shen bot - he's annoying but he's not even using his full kit!
"I'm only using 75% of my full potential and I'm still saving the day, hohoho!"
 
Cause Shen is awesome like that.^_^
 
I can read!
Relevant:
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Q: What gets counted as "Healing Done"?

Nick TWhat gets counted as "Healing Done" in the League of Legends stats? The scoreboard after a game shows me doing all of 71 healing (some strangely small value), and other non-overt healers doing conspicuous amounts. The enemy Graves had the summoner spell Heal, which perhaps accounts for his he...

 
No, it does not just turn on smartcast by itself, I don't think... wtf...
 
Yeah, I can't find it either, weird...
 
1:37 PM
It's just shift + Q|W|E|R, innit?
 
Yeah, but you could turn it on to always smartcast.
 
I'm not really sure how the "smart cast range" thing would even work, honestly. How does it know which skill you're planning to use, to show you the correct range?
 
@GraceNote It shows the range when you press the key down
 
Really handy.
 
so press down Q, it shows Q's range and then should fire Q when you release the key
 
1:38 PM
That seems like a waste of smart cast time to have to hold down the key
That's also how it normally operates if you just normal cast, neh?
 
You don't have to hold it down, only if you want to plan out what you are doing, and to probably help those who like using smartcast on all the time.
 
@GraceNote Normal cast, the range stays visible after you release the key
 
Though, not being able to turn on the always smartcast option kinda defeats the point. >.<
 
Which seems like a boon when you're trying to actually scope the range, neh, than for an accidental release to blow everything to pieces
Well, at least the range mechanic in the patch notes makes sense, now.
 
doing some testing here, it seems Cass's Q is smartcasting, but nothing else of hers is
 
1:42 PM
Her Q already does that.
 
Ah, k, wasn't sure
 
A couple of heroes have always-smart-cast effects. Urgot's Q, Vayne's Tumble, etc.
 
Karthas too
 
Aye, Karthus' Q as well
 
I never thought about Vayne's Tumble for some reason, haha, just accepted it as-is
 
1:43 PM
Aside from Tumble (which is more of a haste matter), it tends to be a lot often on things you want to just be mashing the button (Karthus, Urgot, Cass)
You can still see the range on these by hovering over the icon on the bottom, though.
 
yeah, noticed that
 
I think Fizz's E also.
By the by, Ziggs looks crazy.
 
I don't recall that it was, actually
 
I wish I didn't have class in 15 minutes! :/
 
Every time I hear talk of explosions and Ziggs, I always just hear the voice of Hyper Princess Pitch.
 
1:46 PM
lol
you're headed off for workstuff now, I assume, @Grace?
 
mor esPLOSIONS
 
Aye
 
Car asplosion! House asplosion! Kid asplosion!
 
Oh, whoa.
Scarlet Hammer Poppy is awesome.
 
Pic?
 
1:48 PM
Gr. Just quit.
 
Ohho
 
And also Predator Master Yi? I think?
 
That wasn't mentioned in the patch, but that's certainly a new skin
 
statement retracted
see above
 
@Zamual05 those aren't Yi >>
 
1:51 PM
It didn't load for me for some reason. >.<
 
2:08 PM
@RavenDreamer She looks like a fish.
 
2:25 PM
This update can't download fast enough! =3
 
2:35 PM
Hm.. I didn't realize just how serious I was about that, as it's currently downloading at 2KB/s...
 
@Tristan ew :(
 
>.<
 
It took a long time even on fios, unfortunately
 
I think it's because I uninstalled the Pando Media Booster, so it's not using the normal P2P functions to download.
 
Install Pando Media Booster again, go to starbucks to download it so your hotel doesn't ban you, and then come back to play!
Assuming you have a laptop...
 
2:38 PM
@StrixVaria Thing is, the hotel banned him every time he'd start LoL then
 
Well once it's installed he can uninstall the booster again
 
@StrixVaria That sounds like a lot of work... <.< It's going faster again.
 
Even though that sounds like a lot of effort, at 2KB/s it's going to take a day to finish downloading.
 
@StrixVaria Done. =P
 
Awesome!
Once I really break down the math it's hard to stop myself from spending money on LoL.
I can go to a movie for $10 per person plus $8 for a popcorn that lasts 2 hours, or buy 3 LoL skins for endless enjoyment.
 
3:05 PM
Haha
 
@StrixVaria you need to find a better movie theater, holy carp
 
@IanPugsley They're all like that. Maybe $8 popcorn is an exaggeration but $10 for a ticket is standard.
 
(I say that when the last movie I went to was $10.50 per person)
@StrixVaria if you can get a matinee they're usually cheaper (first show of the day on weekends, usually before 6 on weekdays)
 
@IanPugsley thats because it was the wrong theater
 
@OrigamiRobot don't bring your IRL fussing in here - that theater is only that cheap before 6pm
 
3:10 PM
@OrigamiRobot This just makes me think of bringing movie tickets from one theater to another and getting charged a conversion rate.
 
@IanPugsley orly?
 
I looked at that theater for that movie for the next day and it was $10
 
@IanPugsley Just saying
 
@OrigamiRobot Why do you want to go see Contraband?
 
@Tristan I don't. It is just an example of Ian being wrong :P
 
3:24 PM
@OrigamiRobot Oh. Okay... I was gonna say save your money for Friday and go see Chronicle.
 
@Tristan That's what I'm doing! Except I'm going Saturday.
 
@StrixVaria I want to see it so bad... Hopefully my tax return comes in soon. lol
 
I go to the movies like... once a year, if that
 
@FallenAngelEyes What are you going to use your 1 for this year? The Hobbit?
 
@Tristan I might go twice this year, Avengers and the Hobbit
 
3:28 PM
I think the last time I saw a movie in theatres was maybe two years ago. >.>
 
it's expensive though
 
The main ones I want to see are Chronicle, The Hunger Games, Avengers, and Hobbit. =P
 
€10 euro just for entry
then parking
 
@Tristan I only know what the later half are.
 
Oh yeah, Hunger Games
 
3:29 PM
@OrigamiRobot Hunger Games is based on a book. Chronicle is about some guys who get special powers, and one of them goes crazy and starts abusing it.
 
I'll probably go see that, though I liked the latter books less
The Hunger Games is a trilogy of young adult books
 
@FallenAngelEyes Yeah, the first one was amazing. The second one was okay. the third one pissed me off with how rushed it was.
 
@Tristan Even the second was rushed :/ I didn't like the pacing of that one at all
Are you on Steam? I don't wanna spoil people >>
 
It was like the author said "Well, I'm nowhere near finished telling this story, so I'd better cut out everything good and fit the ending into these 300 pages."
 
@Tristan Oh yea, I know about Chronicle. It seems neat.
 
3:30 PM
@FallenAngelEyes Connecting now.
 
I couldn't even finish reading the second book of Hunger Games.
 
@StrixVaria It picks up about halfway through. The third one's the worst one though.
 
3:54 PM
Teemo!
 
...well that was unexpected
 
?
 
4:16 PM
@Zamual05 Have you tried Lich Bane on Ziggs? He seems like he would like that in conjunction with his passive.
 
@StrixVaria If I can afford it, I'll give it a shot this game. <.< If I play Ziggs.
 
@StrixVaria I haven't, but yeah it would be. Haven't gotten the chance to build it yet. :P
 
Let me know how it turns out.
 
@StrixVaria There was actually a small discussion about his passive versus Lichbane before his release, from the guy who designed him.
 
4:55 PM
@StrixVaria It isn't bad. When it is up and your passive is ready the damage they do together is nuts.
 
I'd actually reckon it more efficient to use when your passive isn't up.
 
It is, just saying when they are together it is funny to see a mage hit that hard with a basic attack. :P
 
That said, being a purely skill-shot caster does make Ziggs pretty good on using Lichbane anyway.
 
 
1 hour later…
6:18 PM
Wow, just did first Dominion bot game
that was... hectic, but actually really fun
came in 3rd on Morgana
 
Who were your opponents?
 
Swain, Wukong, Shyvana, Rammus, and...
my short term memory is horrible uh...
I can't remember
 
That is... a very funky lineup
 
@FallenangelEyes Graves.
 
Ah yes
Was only Beginner, we won within... 13 minutes or something?
Crazy fast @_@
 
6:47 PM
Sounds like a pretty heated debate on The Bridge...
 
7:41 PM
I forgot there are bots on Dominion!
Tonight is going to be a pretty dedicated LoL night for me, but there's a good chance I'll be playing PvP instead of bot games.
I have 1-2 RL friends who will be playing, but you guys are welcome to join in if you want.
 
8:00 PM
@StrixVaria I'd do terrible. Level 12 against a sea of level 30s? <.< I'd just end up feeding.
 
That's not entirely true.
You would be placed against people who are probably better than you, but the three of us would be placed against people who are worse than us, generally.
If the matchmaking works properly (which it tends to do).
We've played with new players before, and as long as you're conscious of your mistakes and trying to learn, it's no big deal.
We're not going to murder you for it.
 
@StrixVaria I'm definitely not a fan of
 
Look at it as a chance to improve, if you want.
I won't force you to join if you're uncomfortable with it, though :)
 
Would you be playing normal games, or dominion?
 
Probably normal games.
 
8:05 PM
Well... I may give it a go. It'll depend on my connection.
 
I'll check in with you before we get started.
 
@Tristan Consider it this way - you're going to be playing with people who aren't going to direct untold amounts of anonymous internet hate against you. That's a bit safer to fail (but also learn) on than playing full blind queue.
 
@GraceNote True.
 
We will also probably have a jungler every game (even though I don't jungle), so both mid and top will be solos, not just mid.
As a new player, you'll probably want to stick to a dual-lane, which (generally) means either R-DPS, Tank, or Support
 
Do you have a full 5 with Tristan?
 
8:13 PM
No, he would be the 3rd or 4th, depending
One of my friends is a bit...flaky
You're welcome to join too, Grace
 
I might have the time, we'll see
 
@StrixVaria Any idea what time this would be taking place?
 
@Tristan We'll probably get started around 6:30 EST
 
k
 
 
1 hour later…
9:16 PM
Hurray! Leona is available again! ^_^
 
Yayy!
 
LoL Recorder working yet?
 
What happened to Leona?
 
I am up to 65 Champions. >.<
 
Who'd you buy!?
 
9:19 PM
No, I think LoL Recorder needs to update their stuff.
 
@Zamual05 Oh, Zam! I meant to ask you. Do you happen to have the replay of my Cho'Gath penta kill?
 
@StrixVaria Something was bugged and caused games with her in them to crash.
@FallenAngelEyes I picked up Nidalee.
 
That's reminiscent of when she was first released.
 
@Tristan I should, will have to dig through my saves.
 
@Zamual05 If it's too much trouble, don't worry about it.
 
9:24 PM
@Tristan Found it!
Pretty sure anyway.
There ya go. :)
 
@Zamual05 Thank you! =D
 
@Tristan No problem. ^_^
 
9:48 PM
@Zamual05 That was the one. =3
 
@Tristan Hurray! ^_^
 
I just found out that not only is LeBlanc 3150 IP now, but she has always cost only 3150 IP. If I had known that all along I'd definitely own her already.
I'm sad now.
 
@StrixVaria If it's any consolation, I used the RP I was going to spend on Ahri (Arhi?) to get Ziggs today... And I can't afford anymore RP. =(
 
Why hadn't you already bought Ahri?
 
I don't imagine that Tristan has had a chance to try her, and Ziggs came quite recently and is all the hot buzz
 
9:53 PM
Have you guys tried Ziggs out already? How is he?
 
@Wilerson He's a ton of fun.
 
@Wilerson What @Tristan said. :P
 
nuker?
 
@StrixVaria And yes, because I hadn't tried Ahri yet... And Ziggs looked so fun in the champion spotlight... so I bought him first. =\
 
@Wilerson Very much so
 
9:58 PM
Ahri is alright, I guess... when her boomerang shot hits on both ways, it causes a lot of damage
and her ult is great for chasing/escaping
 
I find her Fox Fire to be more reliable, honestly
 
I think I'm more than half-way to getting Ahri, IP-wise.
 
@StrixVaria I'm about 1/6th of the way there.
 
Now that I know LeBlanc is so "cheap", though, I kind of want to just buy her and get a skin for her and then skip Ahri.
 
@Wilerson But yeah, like @GraceNote Ziggs is very much a nuker. With enough AP, his ult can devastate a champ... from across the map.
 
10:01 PM
The Fox Fire is more reliable because it's not a skillshot, I guess
 
@StrixVaria Is the skin on sale right now?
 
I only used Ahri when she was free, though
@Tristan nice!
 
@Wilerson It's still kind of a skill shot, technically
 
@GraceNote I don't think so, but I know I've seen an awesome LeBlanc skin. I'm looking through them right now to see how much they are.
 
I find it more reliable because they're single attacks (so spell vamp/rylais work max on it)
@StrixVaria My personal recommendation is to wait until a particular skin you want goes on sale, before you decide to buy a champion just for said skin.
 
10:03 PM
I see. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but Fox Fire isn't targetable, is it?
as in, "let's focus Irelia on that teamfight"
 
@GraceNote The chances the specific skin I want, of all LeBlanc skins, goes on sale seems rather slim.
 
@StrixVaria Which is?
 
@StrixVaria That's what I said about Aviator Irelia, and yet here I am.
 
@StrixVaria Prestigious was just on sale recently, in case that's the one you're eyeing
 
@FallenAngelEyes That is indeed the one.
 
10:04 PM
Now, I bought Irelia for more than half a year before that skin went on sale.
 
Yeah, went on sale a couple weeks ago and I picked it up
 
@StrixVaria ...uf, okay, that's a bit of a bummer on timing
 
I'll just rein in my impulses on that particular skin and keep saving my IP then :P
Ahri's skins are rather lackluster, unfortunately.
 
I'm looking forward to Dynasty Ahri
 
@StrixVaria She's still fairly new, isn't she?
 
10:06 PM
@Tristan Yes but all heroes launch with 2 extra skins. They don't have to be boring :(
I haven't seen them in game, but I just feel like the splash art for Ahri's skins isn't distinctive enough from the default one.
 
@StrixVaria True. I think every champion should have a funny skin on launch.
 
I like Dynasty moreso than her default skin, mehself. It's got a nice aura to it.
 
@Tristan I want to see a Swain skin where Swain is a raven and the ravens are tiny Swains.
 
@StrixVaria I've seen Dynasty often, but only once have I seen an active Midnight Ahri. Now, the number of disconnecting Midnight Ahri users...
 
Have the default skin, a good serious skin, and then a silly one... Like Teemo Cottontail, or Lumberjack Sion.
I don't remember clicking reply... but apparently I did. <.<
 
10:09 PM
I don't think it has to be a joke, necessarily, but it at least shouldn't be entirely serious. Like Monarch Kog'Maw
 
@StrixVaria That skin wasn't a joke?
 
Not anymore than Caterpillar Kog'Maw was
 
 
1 hour later…
11:12 PM
Wait, was there another update?
 
@Tristan I was just thinking the same thing. Mine is patching for some reason.
 
@StrixVaria That might have been what Zam meant by Leona being available again.
 
Oh right.
 
11:31 PM
...and what terrible timing I have to vanish. Well, hope you two enjoy your games, sorry I can't join ye!
 
No problem! Next time.
 
11:52 PM
@FallenAngelEyes I think Strix and I are about to play against real people... There may be room for another if you're interested.
 
@Tristan uuuuuh
 
@FallenAngelEyes I think we'd only have one random person on our team... So the flaming wouldn't be bad, I wouldn't think.
 
@Tristan That's an interesting way to try to console someone :P
 
@FallenAngelEyes Hey, if a baddie like me is brave enough to try it... >.>
 

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