MCU Discussion

FAE

20:05

looks around suspiciously

Yuuki

So I saw Age of Ultron yesterday night.

FAE

What'd you think?

Yuuki

Pretty good.

Banner/Romanov was weird but didn't feel unnatural like romance usually does in action movies.

I think my sister put it best, it felt "rushed, but not forced".

FAE

Yeah, I agree

Yuuki

Hawkeye was awesome, I enjoy seeing the turnaround he made from the first Avengers.

FAE

20:07

there was apparently 40 minutes cut or so

Yeah, I really liked the fact that we actually got to see his character in this one

he spent most of Avengers 1 being either under control or recovering from being under control

Yuuki

I remember after the first one, everyone was all "what's the point of Hawkeye?" and now everyone loves him.

FAE

haha, awesome

Yuuki

"The city is floating, we're fighting an army of robots, and I have a bow and arrow. None of this makes sense."

FAE

I think if you look at Avengers 1 then Avengers 2, you can see the beginning of progression of Banner/Romanov

Haha yeah

I was disappointed with the whole Jeremy Renner/Chris Evans thing re: Black Widow, dunno if you heard about that

Yuuki

I think it would've been nice if they put stuff relating to that in the post-movie stuff in Winter Soldier and maybe Iron Man 3.

They went really heavy on the "Hawkeye's gonna die" hints.

FAE

20:11

Yeah, I was really worried that was gonna happen too

Yuuki

The one thing I don't like about Joss Whedon is that he has this tendency to kill off characters just to show that "no one has Plot Armor".

Sterno

Hawkeye won the movie

FAE

Well it actually wasn't his idea to kill Coulson in the first

and that didn't end up sticking anyway

Sterno

Thor's mystical journey was confusing and weird (the process of it, not the vision he saw)

though how planting an idea on his head made him learn stuff is another matter

Yuuki

@FAE Which I'm wondering if it's going to happen with Quicksilver and then he's in Agents of SHIELD.

FAE

20:13

There's more stuff related to that in the cuts I think

Yuuki

Probably not though.

FAE

@Yuuki Apparently Quicksilver's definitely dead

Sterno

@Yuuki That show doesn't have the budget for his special effects. Plus, it would up the power level of the show too much

Yuuki

@FAE Yeah, I don't think they'd want to send people to "Tahiti" way too much.

FAE

@Yuuki Also I play Marvel Heroes 2015 (the MMO ARPG thing) and damn am I glad I saw the movie early because people were spoiling it left and right this week

Yuuki

20:14

@FAE What jerks.

Sterno

I liked Ultron's dialogue but he just wasn't all that menacing. I was expecting him to be a more worthy foe.

FAE

@Sterno I think that was the point though, you know? He was like a child who knew too much.

He had all this information about the terrible things that humanity's done but lacked the experience and maturity to process it and understand it properly

Sterno

I also think the movie should be renamed to Weekend of Ultron other than Age of Ultron, but you know

FAE

haha

Sterno

James Spader really delivered though

Yuuki

20:16

Ultron is a bit strange. What makes him terrifying isn't that he's a clinical, logic-driven robot. Because he's not. He's a straightforward sociopath.

FAE

I think James Spader did a fantastic job

Yeah

Yuuki

Just as strongly influenced by emotions as any human, which is interesting to see in a robot.

FAE

Spader brought a humanity to him that I don't know anyone else could

Yuuki

And terrifying.

FAE

apparently he was written with Spader in mind to voice

Sterno

20:17

I wonder if it was in the cut material, but it also felt weird Stark kept saying (at least twice, maybe more) "Yeah, but really, Ultron never should have been able to become alive, we weren't that far yet" but the movie never really addressed that

Unless that just boils down to "infinity gem magic, yo"

FAE

probably

Yuuki

So, new Avengers team is now Captain America, Black Widow, Falcon, Scarlet Witch, War Machine, and The Vision?

FAE

Yeah, this was the last movie that this particular team would be together

Yuuki

I dunno, I'm pretty sure they'll be coming back in Infinity War, Part 2 at least.

Iron Man, Hulk, and Hawkeye, that is.

Maybe the new team gets the s--- beaten out of them in Part 1 to establish suspense.

FAE

Probably back, but not as "The Avengers" I think

Yuuki

20:20

And then big superhero team-up in Part 2.

I wonder if Scarlet Witch and The Vision are going to have a romance like they did in the comics? I mean, I guess they were maybe kinda hinting at it.

Sterno

I hope they don't waste a movie's short screen time on that

Unless it's in its own movie

FAE

I don't know much about the comic canon

Yuuki

Ugh, I still don't like Benedict Cumberbatch for Doctor Strange.

FAE

I've only ever seen him as Smaug in The Hobbit, so not really "seen" then

Yuuki

So, I'm not sure what happened. The Vision's made with vibranium, not Ultron's last body?

FAE

20:26

I think he's like a combination of biological matter and vibranium

Sterno

Something that bothered me a bit was that Ultron's soldiers were getting taken down pretty easy at the end, by things like bullets or a jabbed arrow

Yuuki

Ultron's last body (Ultron Prime?) looks like it's made of vibranium, but it gets destroyed pretty easily...

Sterno

@Yuuki I don't think it had vibranium

Yuuki

@Sterno I think it might've been cut because when it first appears, it looks like vibranium.

Sterno

Maybe, but then he should have been a lot tougher, or else vibranium just doesn't seem that great anymore

FAE

20:30

If we want to get super technical, it shouldn't even bounce, but Cap's shield does...

Yuuki

That's because Cap is 'MURICA.

Sterno

Trying to decide if the best line of the movie was "No it wasn't" in response to "Good talk"

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FAE

haha

I think it did a decent job with pacing

Yuuki

Oh, one of the chips that Stark was considering as a JARVIS-replacement read "TADASHI".

FAE

It hit the ground running, but even when the slower paced stuff hit after that it didn't feel like it was boring or that the movie was the length that it was, at least for me

Yuuki

20:35

Sterno

You have no idea how much I was hoping that would involve Rebecca Black

Yuuki

Well, the visible part reads "DASHI", but I'm pretty sure it's supposed to say "TADASHI".

Sterno

I saw the post-credits scene with Thanos and the glove. Then I left. Did I miss any others?

Yuuki

@Sterno I don't think so. I didn't stay either because @FAE said nothing story-important happened afterwards.

FAE

@Sterno No, the only other thing was at the very, very end it said "The Avengers will return"

Yuuki

20:38

@FAE I don't even know why they had to add that.

FAE

@Yuuki I dunno, maybe there are people out there who don't follow the movie news excessively and somehow, maybe, don't know there will be a third? I honestly have no idea.

Yuuki

Yeah, but anybody's who willing to stay to see that line will have seen the two scenes that build up Thanos.

FAE

Yeah, that's true.

Yuuki

I kinda wish they would put more side plot stuff in the mid-credits scenes so they have more "time" to work with. Like they could've had Natasha ask Bruce out on a date (because I don't think it'd be the other way around) for Winter Soldier's mid-credits scene.

Then it wouldn't feel as rushed as it did.

FAE

She was flirting with Cap a lot in WS though

so it may have been jarring to the audience

FAE

21:15

Are either of you gonna see it again?

Yuuki

21:55

Not sure.

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