ELL's Cabin

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

05:27

@tchrist Raises an interesting point: There are no single interpretations of tags on ELL. They used that tag as a 'classifier', while its rule is denoting the subject of forming questions. Then again, the wiki is pretty clear at that. :/

Anonymous

05:42

I'm wary of tense as a tag for this reason.

Anonymous

In the EFL world, you hear lots of things like 'continuous tense'. Most people don't really know what tense means, and those who do have an idea don't always agree. There are multiple reasonable definitions, but people rarely discuss them—they simply use the term and assume other people use it the same way.

Anonymous

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M You could hold some events to discuss how to revise the current set of tags, then organize another event for retagging. Just an idea.

Anonymous

The problem with retagging right now is that our current set of tags is incoherent, but it's not clear what changes we should make specifically to solve that problem.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Well, for a start, to date I've never seen an ELL question that would properly be tagged with just one tag.

And then we should decide how broad a tag should be.

Anonymous

Having one good tag on every question is a start. It's a good idea for SEO purposes. Having more is fine, but it's more important to have zero bad tags.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

05:52

We get a lot of attention when we post on meta.

There's way more attention when something's going on in ELL itself.

Chatrooms, to my demise, aren't terribly populated.

Anonymous

I also think tags should be simple enough that learners can use them, even at an intermediate level. But I'm not sure how to make tags meaningful in a precise way without using technical terms.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

That's way harder than creating good tags.

Anonymous

06:13

What purpose do we want tags to serve? Right now I can think of the following: 1) Make questions on a given topic easier to find, including topics that are hard to search for. 2) Allow users to favorite or ignore Qs on specific topics. 3) Provide tag wiki as a reference. 4) Improve findability on Google (SEO). 5) Award gold tag badge dupehammer. 6) Show users that a certain topic is on-topic on ELL. 7) Encourage users to standardize terminology through careful tag naming and synonymizing.

Anonymous

Our current set of tags doesn't do any of these things well.

Anonymous

Except 5, I suppose…

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Well, in many SEs one of those 7 is sacrificed so the others are abode well.

In chem, we have a "homework" tag.

While homework questions will be closed unless the OP shows some effort in getting an answer.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

06:40

@TCh unix and other OS's also have fonts like "Times" right?

Damkerng T.

09:23

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Q: Belonged and Owned as transitive or intransitive verb

I learned that Belong and Owned are Intransitive verbs hence cannot be use in passive voice. If we use these sentence with is/was it become passive. But can we use as to tell someone status? e.g. 1 Is this property belong to my father? (Question) Yes, this property is belong to your father (An...

tchrist

Hurts.

Damkerng T.

Lately, we seem to be lenient with voting to close unclear questions.

We're not sure what they are asking, but I think it's something around the passive voice, the transitivity of verbs, and maybe the two verbs belong and own too.

Also, as JMB put it:

Try to clear up your question to help yourself. If you're asking about passive, write the past participle correctly (of the verb belong), or as @MaulikV writes, if you're using active, you will need "does". Lastly, I'm not sure what you are asking in your question: are the two verbs (in)transitive, or are your examples correct. — JMB 26 mins ago

It indeed looks like the OP is asking, are my examples correct?

tchrist

People don’t really use belong that way very much, even if he said it right. That sounds like something a language that lacks a possessive case would use.

Whose land is this?
This is my father’s land.

Is this your father’s land?

Notice none of that needs belong.

Damkerng T.

Indeed.

tchrist

Could you please tell me who the owner of this property is?

It belongs to my father.

I suppose. Just not a common word.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

09:34

WHO DIS LIBRARY IS BELONG TO????????///???// KTHXBAI

Damkerng T.

I think, these days, belong is usually used in another sense: I've finally found a place where I belong.

tchrist

That sounds better.

tchrist

10:00

We need badpeoplenames.se.

Infinity

Hello everybody. An opinion which is based on emotions is called "sentiment". What do we have for the opinion that is based on facts and rationality?

Damkerng T.

Could be either, IMHO, depending on context.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Hullo @Infinity! Welcome to the Cabin! Hmm . . .

Damkerng T.

Oh, wait. I think I misread your message.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@Inf what is your context?

Is this opinion a guess?

Infinity

10:12

opinion

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

?

Damkerng T.

Perhaps judgement or assessment

tchrist

Opinions based on emotions are not called feelings.

Infinity

In a text the writer criticizes the movement of the leftists by using the word sentiment meaning their movment is based on emothions. And I just would like to know if one want to say that the movement is based of rationality, what is the right word?

Damkerng T.

The sentiment of a political group or party in a given situation is usually not really only about emotions, I think.

tchrist

10:21

Based on reason, I would say.

Damkerng T.

nods

Sentiment doesn't have to be sentimental, imo.

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A: Belong and Own as transitive or intransitive verb

"Own" is transitive, and takes a Direct Object: X owns Y "Belong" is intransitive, and takes an Indirect Object (or none at all): A belongs to B C does not belong here As for your examples: in Example 1, neither the question nor the answer is in correct form. They should be; Q: Does thi...

Hats off to Brian Hitchcock. He chose to answer everything!

tchrist

> † 1. Personal experience, one’s own feeling. Obs.

C. 1374 Chaucer Troilus ii. 13 ― For-whi to euery louere I me excuse That of no sentement I þis endite But out of latyn in my tunge it write.
C. 1385 Chaucer L.G.W. 69 ― Ye loueres that kan make of sentement In this cas oght ye be diligent To forthren me sumwhat in my labour.
C. 1402 Lydg. Compl. Bl. Knt. 197 ― Right so fare I, that of no sentement Saye right naught··But as I herde··This man complayne with a pitous soun.
† 2. Sensation, physical feeling. In later use, a knowledge due to vague sensation. Obs.

They also note that....

> In the 17th c. the word seems to have been re-introduced with the mod.Fr. spelling sentiment (1314 in Hatz-Darm.).

The first 5 senses are marked obsolete.

Infinity

@DamkerngT. It is! At least according to OALD: "sentiment: a feeling or an opinion, especially one based on emotions"

Damkerng T.

I'd say that it can be.

tchrist

> 6. a. What one feels with regard to something; mental attitude (of approval or disapproval, etc.); an opinion or view as to what is right or agreeable. Often pl. with collective sense.
b. In wider sense: An opinion, view (e.g. on a question of fact or scientific truth). ? Obs.
7. a. A mental feeling, an emotion. Now chiefly applied, and by psychologists sometimes restricted, to those feelings which involve an intellectual element or are concerned with ideal objects. In the 17–18th c. often spec. an amatory feeling or inclination.

Infinity

10:28

being based on emotions is emphasized

tchrist

Using sentiment to mean “opinion” is marked ? Obs. so I think they are not sure.

Damkerng T.

I think sense 6 is interesting. Is "mental attitude" the same as "emotion"?

tchrist

This seems to have been used a lot in the 19th century. There are also earlier citations, but these are from the 1800s:

> 1833 Ht. Martineau Manch. Strike iii. 27 ― What were his sentiments respecting the meeting?
1840 Thirlwall Greece VII. 87 ― There needed··scarcely a voice to express the universal sentiment.
1848 Dickens Dombey xxiv, ― Barnet, to say the truth, appeared to entertain an opposite sentiment on the subject.
1852 H. Rogers Ecl. Faith (1853) 190 ― In one sentiment, indeed, you are pretty well agreed-that the Bible is to be discarded.
1875 Jowett Plato (ed. 2) IV. 231 ― We are··not attempting to draw a precise line between his real sentiments and those··attributed to him.

That's the sentiment=opinion sense #6.

Fact-based evidence produces not opinion but belief.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

10:44

@TCh I again embraced and kissed unicode:

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Warning: This relies on fonts used in the user's computer. Use at your own risk. But seriously, how many computers today don't have fonts like Times not installed? Using the Unicode macro is a workaround we could use to produce upright Greek letters. However, the font sizes are not guaranteed t...

tchrist

That was incredibly freaky.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Thank you!

Jude Niroshan

11:00

Good Evening!

It's the most used Java version currently does not sound well for me

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Afternoon!

tchrist

Sound well?

*sound good to me

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@tchrist We're doing medical analysis.

tchrist

You have currently too far from where it belongs.

Make it the second word.

Jude Niroshan

@tchrist Exactly!

It's currently the most user Java version.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

11:03

Uh-oh.

Jude Niroshan

is it?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@JudeNiroshan used, you mean?

Jude Niroshan

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M use refer to like using a software

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@JudeNiroshan No I mean you used user in your second sentence instead of used.

Jude Niroshan

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M sorry. typo

I am happy to see even though Java 8 has released and books like this publishing for knowledge hungers like us.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

11:06

Ahh.

Jude Niroshan

knowledge hungers ; is there a one single word for this?

I don't know whether this is correct or not. It just came to my mind

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@JudeNiroshan Um, there's a bit of fixing needed there.

@JudeNiroshan It's not a correct word to use.

tchrist

@JudeNiroshan You mean using a program; software is not a count noun.

Jude Niroshan

I am talking about a book which has newly published. this refers to it.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@JudeNiroshan Java has been released.

@JudeNiroshan see that even though

Wait a sec.

@Jude your use of even though doesn't make sense to me.

tchrist

11:09

What’s a knowledge hunger? People are not hunger.

Or is hungers verbing?

Jude Niroshan

@tchrist People who have thurst in knowing things. That is what I tried to implied

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@tchrist It can't be. He means they're craving for knowledge or what.

tchrist

People hungry for knowledge.

Jude Niroshan

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M yes. That's the word. craving

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Or a more friendly (?) tone would be hungry-for-knowledge people like us.

tchrist

11:12

I would avoid that.

Jude Niroshan

it seems like this sentence is too long. or it doesn't ?

tchrist

Don't put spaces in front of punctuation.

And invert questions.

> It seems like this sentence is too long, doesn't it?

Tag questions are always inverted.

Jude Niroshan

@tchrist thanks!

jimsug

11:30

I'd like to catch some learners early:

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Damkerng T.

Neat!

Love it!

Ah, wait. That's on ELU!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Too bad you have to screw that image in a few months. :/

jimsug

Yup.

Damkerng T.

:D

jimsug

Damkerng T.

11:33

That's an interesting idea. I upvoted it anyway.

jimsug

The migration path is active.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

OH CRUD

Damkerng T.

A-ha!

tchrist

You’ve been okraed?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I wish I had.

Damkerng T.

11:35

Only in one direction at the moment, right?

tchrist

So far.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

The other one doesn't matter that much anyway.

puputeh24

12:08

I find myself stroding in behind the scene of ELL and knowing some "comments" for English question. [screaming] Do I need to leave here before I'm killed?

Damkerng T.

Why such knowledge could get you killed? :D

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@DamkerngT. He(?) might blow up.

@pup are you a he, or a she?

puputeh24

It sounded like questioner asked stupid questions...

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M you guess!

Damkerng T.

Don't think of questions as whether stupid or not. Real questions (and their askers) aren't stupid.

puputeh24

I'm glad I'm here because I always forgot belongs or belong to. tchrist said it wasn't used commonly.

Damkerng T.

12:13

Not in the sense that's usually used in examples in ELL grammar books, I think.

puputeh24

It's good to know if I ask stupid question as well :D

ELL grammar books?

Damkerng T.

@puputeh24 Don't worry. Most, if not all, of our users don't think like that. :D

@puputeh24 Grammar books for people who learn English as a second language.

puputeh24

Oh ya.. I was reading some English learning method on Quora today, someone wrote "you nailed it". haha It makes me happy.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@pup a learner shouldn't use a word until they have attained fluency over its usage, collocations and prepositions along with the meaning.

Damkerng T.

(^_^)

puputeh24

12:17

I know what grammar book is. Do you mean ELL has published a grammar books or just loads of grammar questions posted and answered on ELL?

Damkerng T.

Oh, nothing like that. ELL is a general term.

ELL = English Language Learners

So, ELL books = books for ELL

> However,“English as a foreign language” is not used in instructional or school settings, as the students might feel devalued by being called foreigners. Therefore, English Language Learners (ELL) is used instead, and the students’ home language and cultures are considered important. All students who do not speak English proficiently or are learning English for the first time, are referred to as ELLs (Wright, 2010).

> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_as_a_second_or_foreign_language

tchrist

Test of English as a Foreign Language

Test of English as a Foreign Language (TOEFL, /ˈtoʊfəl/, TOH-fəl) is a standardized test of English language proficiency for non-native English language speakers wishing to enroll in US universities. The test is accepted by many English-speaking academic and professional institutions. TOEFL is one of the two major English-language tests in the world, the other being the IELTS. TOEFL is a trademark of the Educational Testing Service (ETS), a private non-profit organization, which designs and administers the tests. The scores are valid for 2 years; then they are no longer reported. == HistoryEdit... ==

puputeh24

12:38

Thank you!

stack exchange is a company in real life? It shocked me.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@puputeh24 How else could they manage so many communities?

puputeh24

I don't know. I was curious about that whether you guys were doing volunteer jobs.. I'm sorry... *covers my face

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@puputeh24 We are.

We're not connected to the company in any ways.

I'm a 16-year-old kid from Iran.

puputeh24

my ex-teacher to-be was from Iran too! great to meet you!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Nice to meet you too. :)

tchrist

12:47

Iran is awfully self-absorbed. When they get older, they will be known as Weran or Theyran or Yallran.

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puputeh24

I thought you were from Russian / Ukraine or somewhere whose native language is Russian.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@tchrist Hah!

@puputeh24 Why?

puputeh24

I'm from Malaysia. I hope you know where is Malaysia because since last year, Malaysia is quite famous in the world..sigh

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M wasn't your username in Russian?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I used to know all the countries in the world.

@puputeh24 It's the backward version of English.

tchrist

Malasia is Benasia’s evil twin.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

12:49

It used to be M.A.Ramezani.

puputeh24

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M used to know? You forgot most of them now?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

No.

tchrist

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M And then they changed them.

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puputeh24

@tchrist I'm sorry. What does Malasia is Benasia’s evil twin mean?

tchrist

Like how maleficent is the opposite of beneficent.

puputeh24

12:53

@tchrist I like this video! It's funny

tchrist

It's a bad joke.

Ben-Asia would therefore be good-Asia and Mal-Asia would therefore be bad-Asia. It is playing on mal=bad ben=good.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@tchrist I saw something in Piled Higher and Deeper the other day . . .

puputeh24

@tchrist Thanks for your explanation :D

Catija

14:51

Is there a way to get a list of protected questions? I saw one yesterday that was protected and it made absolutely no sense why... but I was on mobile, so I couldn't get the full picture.

Damkerng T.

@Catija I tried to find it on this page: ell.stackexchange.com/help/searching, but to no avail.

Catija

@DamkerngT. Yeah, the only place I see it is on the main tools page (stats) but it only lists recent ones... Fortunately, that was the one I was looking for but it seems that a longer list somewhere could be helpful.

ell.stackexchange.com/tools

Damkerng T.

30d is not bad!

Catija

@DamkerngT. 30d?

Damkerng T.

Catija

14:59

Oh, Ha. I didn't realize you could change those. :P

Damkerng T.

There are three protected questions in the last 30 days, if I understand that page correctly.

:D

Catija

Seems to be. I find it interesting that they give us a tab for migrated, closed, and deleted but only a section of up to 30 days for protected. Seems like protected questions should be listed so that you can possibly unprotect them in the future.

Damkerng T.

I didn't even know (I sorta knew I guess, but I didn't think about it!) until you mentions the tools page!

@Catija I found a query on SEDE: data.stackexchange.com/ell/query/352945/…

But it always gave me "Timeout expired".

(I've tried it a few times.)

Catija

Yeah, doesn't seem to be functional.

Damkerng T.

Hmm... 'you mentions'... switching between tabs can degrade my English, obviously!

Catija

15:05

HA HA HA

Damkerng T.

:D

Catija

15:46

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Q: Change this specific sentence from active voice to passive voice

Sentence: I must go and look for my brothers. I need to change this sentence to passive voice. What would be the correct passive voice form of this sentence? I think the verb here is "look". My attempt: To look for my brothers is why I have to go.

passive active-voice

Maybe I'm just realizing it now but that question seems way too specific to be very helpful to other people.

I know a lot of ELL stuff is like that but.

Anonymous

@Catija There are a number of conceptual problems with that question.

Anonymous

"The verb" is must, go, and look. There are three verbs.

Anonymous

And you don't make sentences passive, you make clauses passive.

Anonymous

And there is no passive equivalent here.

Catija

I feel like teachers keep giving their students "questions" like this to teach them how to use passive sentences but I've never seen anyone explain why they need to make a sentence like this passive.

Anonymous

15:51

Well, if you did need to, you'd be out of luck―it's impossible.

Anonymous

Also, it doesn't really make sense having separate tags for passive and active voice.

Anonymous

There are a number of reasons to use passives, but they're usually not covered at all or covered only poorly.

Anonymous

To be fair, it's a difficult topic to cover adequately.

Anonymous

See Information Status and Noncanonical Word Order in English (Birner & Ward 1998) starting on page 194.

Anonymous

B&W talk about the information status of passive clauses in terms of argument reversal. Passive clauses are usually felicitous when the information status of the by-phrase and subject are opposite the normal information status of the corresponding active clause.

Catija

15:58

Chasly, this sentence has been assigned as part of homework assignment for a 4th grade kid. The assignment is to convert sentences from active form to passive form. It may be possible that the teacher made an error, and this sentence cannot be changed to passive form. However, I am not sure. — Zain Imran 48 secs ago

Wow... a fourth grader? Ugh.

Anonymous

The syntactic subject of the passive (that is, the constituent on the left) is typically at least as familiar in the discourse as the by-phrase NP in real passives. And that's actually a fairly important criterion for deciding when passives work and when they don't.

Anonymous

Of course, most passives are short passives. That is to say, they don't include a by-phrase.

Anonymous

So people often mistakenly think "passive" means "vague about agency". Who did it? Don't want to say? Use a passive! And that is one reason people use passives, but it's not always true, and there are many passives where the agent is emphasized.

Anonymous

@Catija Hmm, that's too bad :-(

Catija

@snailboat Honestly, the answer that he has is probably what the teacher wants... but it's still a crappy question.

Anonymous

16:02

I think it would be better to show people real examples of passives in context, and to discuss when they're used and why.

Anonymous

If you don't know when to use passives, and you try using them, you'll get a lot of resistance. People will notice they're infelicitous (= they don't work as intended in context) and jump on them and say "Passives are bad! Don't use passives!"

Anonymous

Or they'll notice they're stylistically inappropriate.

Anonymous

And then people will think their problem was using passives at all, instead of using them poorly.

Anonymous

This seems to happen all the time.

tchrist

@Catija Protection only helps. You would nearly never want to unprotect things.

Anonymous

16:12

@Catija I think for most ELL questions about passives, what the teacher wants isn't very helpful.

Anonymous

I gave up on answering any questions about passives on ELL a while ago.

Anonymous

The answers I would give are generally not the answers people want.

Catija

@snailboat But you know more about language than most people... even for me, I don't like these questions but most of what you said doesn't make sense to me because I personally don't really understand passives.

All I know is that Word tells me not to use them.

Anonymous

Word is dumb.

Catija

Yes. I usually turn that part of grammar checking off. I know that teachers in high school told us to use active voice... but I've never understood why they think it's so much better.

Anonymous

16:15

@Catija You might be interested in reading Style: Toward Clarity and Grace.

tchrist

Moreover, all three of those were protected by Community for very good reasons and should stay protected. It seems incredible that those three are the only ones that needed protection; you guys should be doing that.

Anonymous

Using active clauses when they're appropriate is a good idea.
Using passive clauses when they're appropriate is a good idea.
Both of these things are true but tell you nothing, unfortunately. :-(

Catija

@tchrist Yes... I wanted to look because in the mobile app, the most recent one only shows that there's one answer. Deleted answers don't show up in the mobile app.

tchrist

That's lame.

Just use a real browser.

Here are the parameters:

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A: Auto-protect questions that get more than N answers from new users in a 24-hour period

This has been implemented pretty much as described in the question and is now deployed across the network. Default threshold is 5 answers in 24 hours (by new users i.e. users who earned less than 10 reputation on the site, excluding any association bonuses), at the point of which the question ge...

Catija

The app is a lot better for everything else.

Anonymous

16:18

I was confused by the mobile app. I was already used to using the mobile version of the site on my phone, which works okay, but I often had to click to the 'full' version of the site because the mobile version of the site had limited functionality.

Anonymous

So I installed the mobile app thinking, "Okay! Finally there's an app with all the functionality, presumably with a mobile-specific interface!"

Anonymous

But it actually had less functionality than the mobile web version.

Anonymous

I ended up uninstalling it a day later. I couldn't figure out what it was for.

Catija

@snailboat Hmmm. Yeah. My husband always says that a lot of professional papers are intentionally written in passive voice to separate the researcher from the information... or something.

tchrist

@snailboat I bet you are right.

Can you protect questions using a handcomp?

Anonymous

16:19

I have to click through to the 'full' site to protect a question.

tchrist

@snailboat They just want to know how to get a good grade.

Anonymous

Also to do just about anything related to moderation.

Catija

I like the app but I tell myself that the only use of it is for viewing questions and quick stuff like flagging or close voting... I see people on Meta.SE asking for the full functions of the site and I get what they want but I don't expect it from the app...

Anonymous

People write entire posts from the app.

Anonymous

I couldn't bring myself to do that, even for a hat.

tchrist

16:22

@snailboat I haven't tried. Too much bouncing around you need to do, plus I would be surprised if all the tools were there.

Catija

@snailboat I don't. I can't stand typing on a screen. I need the tactile click response from my keyboard. I tried to use a "piano" app... and I deleted it right away because I need to feel the spaces between the keys and need to be able to touch the keys without making noise.

Anonymous

I don't think any of the moderator tools are available on the mobile web or app versions.

tchrist

I like to hover.

Timestamps.

ELU has 3 protected question in the last day, 6 in the last two days, and 15+ in each of the longer categories.

I've protected about 3,500 questions or so myself.

Catija

But ELU gets more questions and more visits... I don't see much that needs to be protected on ELL.

tchrist

16:37

The stuff that needs protecting is the stuff the pings the VLQ review queue.

Otherwise it's just making more work for people.

Catija

We've only had 4,455 LQP reviews... I think we simply don't get them much.

tchrist

Wow, I could have done those ones by myself. :)

Catija

Thanks. I was just looking for that but I don't have the rep on ELU to see it. We've only had... 4 today, compared to your 63.

tchrist

Are you sure?

I think anybody can see it.

english.stackexchange.com/review/low-quality-posts/stats

Catija

I can probably see the link... but the only way I know to get to it is to go to the review queue and I can't access that queue.

tchrist

16:45

You won't be able to see how people voted though.

Catija

Ah, I figured out how to get there now. :D

Anonymous

How much reputation do you need to see other people's reviews on that page?

Catija

All it says is that "I don't have any"... so I think I can only see my reviews?

Anonymous

Yeah, I can only see my own on that page.

Anonymous

But if I look at the same path on ELL, I see everyone's reviews.

Anonymous

16:48

I assume it's because I have a privilege on ELL I don't have on ELU, but I don't know which one.

Catija

I can see that other people have reviewed... and the quantity they've done, but I can't see what they voted.

Anonymous

Oh, it's /help/privileges/moderator-tools

Anonymous

So I guess I need 10k reputation to see other people's.

Catija

Yeah, with my rep on ELL I can see what everyone voted.

Anonymous

It's only 2k on ELL! :-)

Anonymous

16:50

For now.

Catija

Until we get a site design... I have that much time to get to 20 K. :P

But I've not been answering as much recently because I've been busy with other stuff.

tchrist

Most one-liner answers are low quality.

Catija

@tchrist Generally, yes.

tchrist

That doesn't mean they need to be deleted, of course.

Although some do.

Catija

Yeah... there's a one-sentence answer that I think, personally, is really a bit of a joke answer and it has 20 upvotes compared to the accepted answer that actually answers the question, which has only 8.

OK, it has three sentences in two "paragraphs"... but I still don't think the answer doesn't really address what the question is asking.

Anonymous

16:56

Are you deliberately avoiding linking to it here?

Catija

I don't know.

I don't want to create drama, So it's easier to not.

Anonymous

Fair enough! :-)

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