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15:01
Um, hi!
What is it with this room and random mod flags?
Maybe I should move that message to the main room.
@Dam I meant that it's easy to confuse . . . Oh god. Not again.
Which room is this? (I came because of a flag)
@PaulWhite We have no idea.
15:02
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Mostly rhetorical :)
It was addressed to me directly, tough, but the message also mentioned another user.
@PaulWhite It was a rude/offensive flag :)
WHAT MESSAGE?!
@Zizouz212 I'd moved all of the rest to ELL's Cabin.
It feels bad to be the only one that doesn't understand what's going on in the world.
15:03
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Don't worry, I'm awfully confused now.
I'm slow to find that message again.
Where is it?
@Zizouz212 Indeed, but this room has been quite active on the flag front just recently. Mostly from one particular user, on messages that did not need flagging.
Anyways, I'll see you peeps later :)
I'm sorry, but I find it rude/offensive to be blatantly accused of the action in that message.
That message?
Sheesh.
15:04
@PaulWhite Okay, I didn't realize that
What message?
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Poor you, even I don't know...
@Zizouz212 No worries.
If that user chooses to hold me responsible for a user leaving the site, that doesn't make it true or appropriate.
15:05
Well, if you do find something rude or offensive, mark it as such. If it's really consistent with the same user, just raise a custom chat mod flag :)
∑(。・Д・。)???
@Catija That doesn't mean a moderator will agree with you :)
Argh! I don't want this in this room. Never mind that. I'll move all of these to the main room later.
@Zizouz212 I've only flagged one message as offensive in chat in the past few days, so I'm not certain what's all the ado is about.
@PaulWhite I never said that they would... but I still have the right to flag if I find it inappropriate.
ʅฺ(・ω・。)ʃฺ??
15:07
@Catija Sure. It's just this room has raised a lot of flags, bringing mods in from all over the network, where they were busy doing ... other stuff.
Hence, flags may not be taken as seriously.
@PaulWhite I'm not aware of any of that... I know there was an issue in the ELL Cabin a few days ago... maybe a week by now... but I'm not aware of other flags... I just woke up... after too few hours, to a collection of comments including the one that I flagged.
Okay, for the mods. I think it started with this message:
in ELL's Cabin, 6 hours ago, by Catija
@DamkerngT. Which should be curbed... getting around a closed question by making a placeholder answer is... not acceptable behavior in my book.
@PaulWhite Ironically, this room was intended to stay outta conflicts.
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I know. And yes there is some irony there.
Two hours later, the mentioned user came in to post this:
in ELL's Cabin, 4 hours ago, by Araucaria
@Catija "@DamkerngT. Which should be curbed... getting around a closed question by making a placeholder answer is... not acceptable behavior in my book." The problem is that some members on here actually take care over their posts so that they provide clear accurate and even, wait for it, researched and referenced answers. OMG!
15:09
@Catija That's you, others may have.
@DamkerngT. I didn't even flag that one...
nods -- I still hope that we can talk look at the issue objectively.
@Zizouz212 But you're talking about it as if I was abusing flags... And I don't mean you, specifically... I mean, the influx of mods here seems to be implying that.
@Catija Oh no! I didn't mean that. I just was that there was a flag on a message in this room raised by someone.
It was about "placeholder answers". Some users opted to post an answers with 40-60 p's as a placeholder.
15:11
@Catija You didn't abuse anything, I agree.
The reason behind that can be found in the other room after that message.
But couldn't we all be a bit more easy-going?
@Arau's message above is very sarcastic.
I think a meta post could sort this out.
Well, I'm heading off. We need to find people who don't know how to review :)
@Zizouz212 Bye!
15:12
@Zizouz212 See you!
See ya peeps :) (If I'm in a good mood, maybe I'll say how many peeps we caught at Open Source :) )
@Zizouz212 Catch some from my side.
@Catija The link has gone now. Want to point me at the post you found objectionable?
I agree with Catija. I think it's almost 10 days now. Those old flags.
@PaulWhite It's been "(removed)"... and I'm not sure how to link to it or if you could even see it... probably you could...
15:18
@Catija I could, but if it has been removed, there's not much else to be done with it.
I can't see the message now. Perhaps only the mods can see it.
Yep, mods can see removed messages
@Loong Right, thanks.
Ok well there doesn't seem to be any imminent sign of apocalypse in here, so I'm going back to what I was doing.
See you later!
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15:22
Hi?
@Zizouz212 Hi!
@Zizouz212 Thanks!
Sorry, I'e got this really bad thing with pings...
You can ask anyone :)
@ArtOfCode Probably should move over here... if for no reason other than saving @Dam from moving all the messages later on.
@Catija Hmmm?
Question: what's the point of having the two rooms?
15:28
@Catija Thanks!
@ArtOfCode If you asked me, the two rooms are very different in nature.
@DamkerngT. They are?
Though most regulars chat in both rooms.
Is there any point in having LO gallery any more?
@ArtOfCode Yes. One is for ELL. The other is for language in general, mostly goes in the same direction as my interests.
@ArtOfCode This one is a general ELL room. Anything can be discussed. The other one is a more general Language room... we often discuss languages other than English... and, since it's not "ELL's official room, it's inappropriate to discuss some topics there... particularly Meta type discussions.
15:30
@DamkerngT. Ah, sense made
@ArtOfCode I asked myself that a few times. I think let's better keep it like this a little more while.
Also, chatting in English just for practicing English should stay in this room.
Mais oui oui! Je parlerais jamais l'anglais maintenant!
But English problems (IELTS/TOEFL/GMAT/GRE tests) are welcome in Language Overflow, too!
15:34
@Zizouz212 Haha! <-- That was in French, BTW.
:P
Je sais! Je parlerais jamais l'anglais, vous voyez?
Désolé je ne peux pas parler français !
Ehe, Zizouz212 no puede escribir :P
Je devine: c'est Google Translate qui vous aide?
Also, @DamkerngT If someone wants to create a meta post about it, that's fine. Considering what just happened, I'm not going to be the one who does it because I don't need to be attacked any more simply for disagreeing with someone's methods for answering questions.
15:36
@Zizouz212 Oui! (In my case)
Zizouz tiene que corregirse
@ArtOfCode Que vous est bizarre!
@Catija It's been raised before.
@jimsug Mon ami! Comment sa va?
Same user, same method.
15:36
@Catija Understood.
@jimsug In Meta or in chat? Is there an existing meta question about it already?
If I understand it correctly, and Araucaria left a placeholder post on a question in case it was closed... in meta. By me.
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Q: Placeholder answer posts

jimsugWhat exactly is the word "there" in an existential construction? And related questions This question recently had an answer posted to it that came up in the first post queue, (which I've screencapped in case it's deleted in the meantime) which simply states: This is a place-holding answer, j...

Nous parlons francais dans un salle a bavarder!
@Zizouz212 Obviamente, que otro lugar vas a usar?
15:39
@ArtOfCode Fermer-la! cours
@Zizouz212 mdr
Pardon?
My French internet speak is possibly antiquated.
@Zizouz212 Refuso. Nunca voy a
Back in my highschool days, that meant mort de rire.
15:40
Alors, tu comprend un petit peu?
I say this like I'm old, but I'm actually not.
@Zizouz212 Bits and pieces, but only enough to get by.
Alright :)
Yep, I know English and French quite fluently, and then I'm on and off with my Norwegian
@Catija Please feel free to raise it again, though.
That didn't get so much discussion for some reason, and personally I don't like it.
Off-topic questions add to the noise on a site, and adding an answer just makes it hang around that much longer.
@jimsug I'd rather place a bounty on your question than write one of my own... but you can't place bounties on Meta posts.
@Catija Which is why I say whoever writes the best answer will be awarded a 500 point bounty in a single day. Then I go about how bounties can't be awarded on meta :D
15:46
@jimsug Very true. Answering bad questions after they've been closed is bad policy, in my book.
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Let me try again...
Oh, they left the room!
Hello, @athlonusm!
16:11
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Q: What is the simplest way to get the highest band in IELTS?

Micky KWhat is the simplest way to get the highest band in IELTS? share the useful link to get the good material about IELTS.

Aww... we get this kind of question every once in a while.
17:05
Is this ok to show as a message in web form?
"EmpNo is auto-generated and it cannot be changed."
grammer is ok?
@DamkerngT. hi ^
@DamkerngT. I'm here
What's EmpNo?
@JudeNiroshan There was a new user passing by.
Employee Number?
@DamkerngT. ohh... he has missed a big fish
@DamkerngT. yes
EmpNo is not a common abbreviation. Better spell it in full.
Unless your users expect EmpNo.
@DamkerngT. I have this full text next to the input field. So, i thought it would be unnecessary
17:10
@JudeNiroshan The texts in real forms are a little different from standard English. It's the best if the writer (of these texts) can see how the form is actually used.
That's a very long input text field for "15"! :D
@JudeNiroshan Remove "it".
Writing advice.
@DamkerngT. thanks. I'll reduce the width. That didn't come to my mind; BTW
I think this would convey your message well: Employee Number is auto-generated and cannot be changed.
It could be shortened, if you'd like as: (auto-generated and cannot be changed)
@DamkerngT. short & sweet one! love it
 
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18:18
hi
anyone here?
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M ?
 
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20:14
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Q: 2015 Moderator Election Q&A - Question Collection

Grace NoteIn connection with the moderator elections, we will be holding a Q&A with the candidates. This will be an opportunity for members of the community to pose questions to the candidates on the topic of moderation. Participation is completely voluntary. Here's how it'll work: During the nominati...

20:37
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Q: 2015 Community Moderator Election

CommunityThe 2015 Community Moderator Election is now underway! Community moderator elections have three phases: Nomination phase Primary phase Election phase Most elections take between two and three weeks, but this depends on how many candidates there are. Please visit the official election page a...

21:03
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Q: How do I throw somebody else's hat into the ring?

StoneyBI'm delighted to see us slouching toward Bethelehem to be born; but I find no provision for nominating anyone but myself. Is this by design or oversight?

@DamkerngT. Feel like ...
@snailboat ... being nominated for mod? ... Yous two have fourhandedly driven the whole Chat end of this place for at least two years, you've earned it if you want it.
 
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Anonymous
22:23
I think there are probably better candidates for moderator than me :-)
22:35
@Catija No. Keep those on Meta.
@Catija Ignore that last comment further above - I missed the in bit in "inappropriate".
22:50
@Catija Although, need it be said, it's better to raise things in Meta in general when they belong on Meta, especially if they're person specific. Keep the chat rooms for people who want to chat constructively about things like English, language, improvements to ELL, etc etc
23:04
Hullo @J.R.!
Mod elections, finally! ELL graduated!
Now, will you nominate?
I will probably offer to keep serving as a moderator, if that's what the community wants.
Moderator election coming up! If you feel you can contribute more to this community than you now can, please do nominate!
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I agree with Stoney, though, it's weird that we can only nominate ourselves.
@J.R. That's what I want, and @Dam and @Snail want, prolly.
Can't speak for them, so they have to show up and say they agree.
But you made a great mod, make a great mod, and will make a great mod, hopefully!
I don't generally quote the Grateful Dead, but, "What a long, strange trip it's been."
23:12
@Cat you should nominate too!
I wonder if our @Dam will nominate. I may need my nagging powers to persuade him.
Starting with . . . clears voice . . . @Dam you should definitely nominate!
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I'll think about it... :) Do we know how many slots we're getting?
Ah, three.
Hmmm...
3. Hmm.
It really depends on who'll nominate. Voting could become hard.
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I have a feeling there are going to be 5-6 good candidates (if all the people I think of run)... and it's going to make selecting people very difficult.
I hope we get at least 6-8 strong candidates to run. Voting should be a little hard.
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Strong candidates. I'm thinking bodybuilders.
23:19
If we don't have that many quality candidates willing to run, we probably wouldn't be ready to graduate.
@J.R. We have graduated.
@J.R. I suppose... I didn't know Movies & TV well when I voted in the elections but the final three were pretty much the most obvious choices.
That's why I expect we'll get a lot of strong candidates :^)
From NOAD: strong (adj.) possessing skills and qualities that create a likelihood of success
(no bodybuilding necessary)
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A: 2015 Moderator Election Q&A - Question Collection

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.MIf you get a diamond next to your name, it will look shiny and all, but, you used to be writing answers and/or questions, you used to comment on the delicate and finer points of English grammar . . .  But now what you mainly are gonna do is cleaning after the mess of spam, processing flags, warn...

There goes my three answers.
You guys should answer too.
> Well done Marsling"
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