ELL's Cabin

Jude Niroshan

06:26

Good Morning!

@DamkerngT.

Damkerng T.

Morning!

Jude Niroshan

how are you?

today i am facing for a another problem with my work related thing in office. I need some help. @DamkerngT.

Damkerng T.

I feel a bit tired. I was thinking about taking a short nap. :-)

What's the phrase you're looking for?

Jude Niroshan

My LIVE database access has been removed. I feel like everyone is not neglecting my work as i'm the youngest person in whole company.

Damkerng T.

Yes?

Jude Niroshan

06:28

They are afraid of giving me responsibilities

give me a sec

ok

i'm here

so, few days back only i got to know that the LIVE database access which was gave me months back, has removed without my awareness. they had done it surreptitiously

@DamkerngT.

so, i am going to write an email to my managers

acting like that i think they have done it by mistake.( But i know they have done it purposefully )

Damkerng T.

Heh!

Jude Niroshan

this is what i have wrote as my email

"Hi Kandee,

Since few weeks back my RS 8 database url is not working. I'm not sure whether is has been removed or due to any changes made, it's not available for me anymore. For some of the fix now items i have to check live db. Most of the mapping related work i need this as some data i cannot ensure it through any interface. FYI.

--
Regards,
Jude Niroshan"

Damkerng T.

was not working

Jude Niroshan

but still it is not working too

Damkerng T.

Oh, you didn't mean 'because'?

Jude Niroshan

06:37

where?

Damkerng T.

Never mind that. I thought you used "since" for "because".

Jude Niroshan

ah no..

Damkerng T.

Use hasn't worked or hasn't been working instead.

Jude Niroshan

i know, since is not really goes with this context

how do you really say it in english?
"Since few weeks back my RS 8 database url is not working"
- I'm trying to say is = I got to know that this link is not working only few days back

Damkerng T.

I'm not sure whether the database was removed or it was due to some changes made to the database, but I can't access it anymore.

I'm slow now because I'm lying on my sofa, typing from my iPad.

> For some of the fix now items i have to check live db.

I'm not sure what you meant by that.

Jude Niroshan

06:43

fix now items = some kind of tasks I need to do. (type of a work)

Damkerng T.

> Most of the mapping related work i need this as some data i cannot ensure it through any interface.

Same. I can't guess this one either.

Jude Niroshan

but does this fulfill my intended purpose of writing this email?

11 mins ago, by Jude Niroshan

acting like that i think they have done it by mistake.( But i know they have done it purposefully )

Damkerng T.

@JudeNiroshan Perhaps, I have to check data in the live database to work on some of the fix-now items?

Jude Niroshan

so, i need some rough way to say that i'm capable of handling tasks

Damkerng T.

Does that edit sound right for you?

Jude Niroshan

06:47

And i'm sending this to (Kandee) - Head of our team

@DamkerngT. generously i'd say, not exactly. I want to impress them with this email, that even thought i'm young; i have the knowledge and i can handle responsibility.

worse part is :

people who joined with me to the company but have less knowledge is getting rewards

but me; treating like a new comer here

:(

Help me @DamkerngT.

Damkerng T.

Here is my tip, and it's not really about language.

Jude Niroshan

ok

Damkerng T.

Care less about the words or phrasing, and care more about the real intent in your writing.

Usually, an average person will look through your language and if you can write the way you're describe your situation for me, you'll be fine.

Unless, of course, your job is teaching English!

So, if you want to express your capability, that you're confident that you can handle the task or the job, simply say so. It usually works.

Jude Niroshan

@DamkerngT. but i'm going to address the head of our project and this email will be visible for all others (nearly 60 people)

Damkerng T.

"I believe that I can handle this task." -- simple and effective, and polite enough.

Jude Niroshan

06:53

@DamkerngT. but i feel it's not polite way to ask directly

it's like begging
I really don't like this company culture because of this. They treat me like a child here. I almost have nearly 2 years of industry experience which even some of the elder people even doesn't have

Damkerng T.

When reading a letter or a mail written by a non-native speaker (and I'm a non-native speaker), we usually try our best to look to the message, and overlook the grammar, spelling, word choices, and so on.

A moment

Sorry for the intermission!

Where was I?

Oh, I was about to suggest this before I was interrupted. I think it may work better if you try to write it in your first language first (I mean, for this kind of letter), and then translate that into English. It'll be easier for us to polish or rearrange sentences in your letter.

I mean, it's easy to edit your letter than to write a letter for you.

Jude Niroshan

@DamkerngT. great idea

Damkerng T.

^*easier

Jude Niroshan

i'll write it and comes to you

:D

Damkerng T.

It looks like I'm going to be busy for a while. I'm sorry that this is all I can help for now.

@JudeNiroshan Great!

See you later!

Sawarnik

14:58

Hey @DamkerngT.

Damkerng T.

@Sawarnik Hello, 404, um... @Sawarnik!

Sawarnik

@DamkerngT. :D You remember me?

Damkerng T.

I'm not sure, but I think you must've been either one of the two guys from the math room.

Sawarnik

Yup :)

Damkerng T.

A-ha! :D

The older one or the younger one?

Sawarnik

15:01

Younger one :D

Damkerng T.

LOL

How are you?

Sawarnik

:D

though a bit exhausted ..

how are you? .. and how is bangkok?

Damkerng T.

Aww... studying hard?

Hmm... looks okay at the moment, but the aftereffect is still there.

Sawarnik

Lots of homework .. LOTS of homework :'(

Damkerng T.

Haha! :D

Homework is good. Lots of homework is even better. :D

Sawarnik

15:03

@DamkerngT. Seriously? :O

Damkerng T.

You can become good at it sooner. :-)

@Sawarnik I was only half serious, though. :D

Sawarnik

Good at what exactly? :D

@DamkerngT. Ah :D :P

Tell me something I don't know @DamkerngT.

Damkerng T.

You don't know what I'm doing. :P

Sawarnik

You must be designing some humanoid :D

Damkerng T.

Hah! Hmm... you may be right. :P

Sawarnik

15:08

So what do you do exactly? Write code, build parts, or something else :P

Damkerng T.

Writing some code, yes.

But more importantly, I'm doing it while enjoying my chocolate. :D

Sawarnik

Then why do you stay awake 24*7? :/

@DamkerngT. Aha!

Damkerng T.

Hee

Sawarnik

@DamkerngT. Actually you were chatting..

Damkerng T.

Ah, that's true too!

Sawarnik

15:10

Also, did the coup get rid of itself?

Damkerng T.

I wouldn't like to talk about politics.

Sawarnik

Okay :D

Damkerng T.

Thanks! What's happening on Math SE?

@Sawarnik For several reasons.

Sawarnik

Ah.

I haven't talked to the older one in months.

Damkerng T.

Aww...

BTW, speaking of humanoid robots... see how good we walk!

Boston Dynamics' Atlas Robot Tested Outside

►

Sawarnik

15:15

lets see :D

Why is it connected with thick wires? :O @DamkerngT.

Damkerng T.

In the later part?

Sawarnik

The humanoid has it all the time..

Damkerng T.

In the later part, it was dragging something heavy behind it.

Sawarnik

Aww..

Damkerng T.

Oh, I think the cables were mostly about the power and maybe a safety line. Just in case it falls.

Sawarnik

15:18

@DamkerngT. Hmm .. so do you work at Boston Dynamics?

Damkerng T.

@Sawarnik Ah, no! :D

Sawarnik

@DamkerngT. Uh .. then where? :D

Damkerng T.

In Bangkok. :D

Sawarnik

I was thinking you must have designed some piece of that robot :P

@DamkerngT. that is a big place .. somewhere specific? :P

Damkerng T.

That's about as specific as I'm comfortable with. :D

Sawarnik

15:20

@DamkerngT. Aww..

Either way, I better start doing my homework though :D

Ta-ta..

Damkerng T.

TTFN!

New Bionics Let Us Run, Climb and Dance | Hugh Herr | TED Talks

►

Not very new, but it still looks cool every time I see it.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

16:28

I thought when I went all dramatic in ELL's Cabin yesterday I won't come here for a month, but guess I got over it as soon as my head hit the pillow.

I now kinda feel bad for him too.

Damkerng T.

Hehe! Good!

nods

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

in Room for Loong and inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M, 21 hours ago, by inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Sigh It didn't end well for him either @Loong. I'm half-angry half-sad half-don't care for him.

in Room for Loong and inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M, 21 hours ago, by inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

in English Language & Usage, 17 hours ago, by Arrowfar

@Mitch @MattE.Эллен @Robusto @Cerberus @skullpatrol and all the others. I'm leaving SE. I have made up my mind. It has been nice knowing you guys. Take care and goodbye.

Damkerng T.

Wait, I think we'd better discuss that in the main room.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Now, to wrap that conversation up, Tuesdays are not as much bad as my hatred towards them.

@DamkerngT. Na'a, I finished discussing that.

Damkerng T.

16:47

← 9 messages moved from Language Overflow

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

17:23

\o @Cat

Everyone, good news! ELL will be the next site that will be officially graduated!

2

^^ @Dam @Snail @Stoney @Jim @J.R. @Fred @Fanta @JimR @Man ^^

@Cat thanks for that comment!

Damkerng T.

I wonder what the site will look like.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

It will graduate without design @Dam - See that meta post.

Damkerng T.

Oh!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

The SE team decided it doesn't make sense to postpone graduation just because of the site design.

So adding a new design isn't the first thing that comes with graduation.

However, we'll get a design as soon as the design team finishes it.

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Q: Is it correct to say 'my mom is posh'?

Posh means attractive and expensive like a posh hotel. I also read that you can say, 'My family is posh'. If I will say, 'My mom is posh,' what does it mean?

word-usage

:O

Damkerng T.

I'm pretty sure that I found it in a recent novel I read.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

17:31

Huh, wait, they didn't mean the "posh" I had in mind.

Damkerng T.

Hmm... I couldn't find it.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Find it? It's the last word in your sentence.

Damkerng T.

The word in the novel I think it was in.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Aha.

Damkerng T.

Oh, found it!

> The Time Traveler's Wife

The second sentence from the bottom.

Still, family is not really a person.

Freddy

17:45

wow this is awsome

I think ELL is first webiste to graduate without change in design.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@Freddy First as in fifth?

Yellow @Art! Did we just gain a chat reg?

ArtOfCode

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Might 'a done.

Freddy

Is there any other S.E. site?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@Freddy Yes like, 150 of 'em.

Freddy

Okay phase 1 site policies are changed

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

17:50

I think you should read its previous version first @Fred.

Freddy

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M you were first one to comment. I will read old and new policy both but now I need to sleep.

Good night everyone

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

G'night

Anonymous

19:12

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Woo hoo!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Woohoo indeed!

\o @Snail!

Anonymous

Thanks for posting that―I wouldn't have seen it

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Bows BTW @Snail using the notion of reduced relative clauses to explain post modifiers was an absurd idea, right?

Anonymous

It's not an absurd idea, I just think that there are occasions where it doesn't work so well

Anonymous

The hypothesis that they're "contracted" can be shown to be false by examining phrases that can't be expanded: "a matter concerning the public interest", "an affidavit containing all the basic factual material", "a society consisting of educated people" (Biber et al. 1999 p.631-2). In all three examples, the verbs are stative (in the relevant senses) and resist being rephrased with full relative clauses in the progressive; people would not say "a matter which is concerning the public interest", and even if they did, it would have dynamic meaning the original does not. — snailboat Aug 5 at 2:00

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

19:16

Bingo!

Anonymous

In this context, the term used was "contracted" rather than "reduced", so I used that term in quotes. But the examples I quoted are relevant to the reduced relative analysis

Anonymous

an affidavit [containing all the basic factual material] would have to be reduced from an affidavit [which contains all the basic factual material], and a generative theory would have to explain the change in form

Anonymous

At a minimum, we can see they're not basic ellipsis, because ellipsis doesn't result in changed word forms

Anonymous

It's just leaving stuff out.

Anonymous

The analysis does work pretty well a lot of the time.

Anonymous

19:20

Sometimes you can use a theory you don't necessarily agree with in order to teach someone something, by the way, though it usually requires that you avoid explaining it as a general principle

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Yeah, that happens all the time in teaching chemistry.

Anonymous

Like, if someone doesn't understand something and it's easily explainable in terms of ellipsis of that is, you can point out that the two versions are equivalent.

Anonymous

Although you might want to avoid stating unequivocally that it is ellipsis.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

A lot of chem teachers say "to do X you need to calculate Y times Z. It's the rule"

A lot of real chem teachers say "to do X the textbook recommends the students to do Y times Z. However, this is an oversimplification and doesn't work in certain conditions."

"Those conditions are <insert chem jargon here>, but you don't need to worry about them in your course."

Anonymous

That's a good approach.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

19:25

I use it to explain stuff on chem.

Those teachers keep the student amazed that "Whoa, there's a lot for me to learn." and at the same time, don't give scientifically incorrect explanations and at the same time, provide the student with a clearer vista and a bigger perspective of things. It's also a useful why, usually.

Anonymous

Unfortunately, giving a complete explanation is sometimes equivalent to writing out (or quoting) an entire chapter of a book . . .

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Unfortunately though, teaching chemistry is always webbed with oversimplifications. Funny thing is, the students usually think that is how things are. And then they go all "I knowz everything. ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ"

@snailboat My teacher always gives me a name to Google when the more correct explanation will distract from the lessons or it's really large.

Like for example, he says: "For the interested, go read about "conformations". And then compare them with "configurations"."

Anonymous

In the case of linguistics, Google is a useful tool, but as usual, books are considerably better than most of the information online

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Yeah. More technical chemistry concepts are almost non-existent on the internet, due to obvious reasons.

But for people like me, 99% of the stuff is better explained on the internet.

Anonymous

Well, imagine if most things people wrote about chemistry online were what people believed 200+ years ago . . .

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

19:33

(For that 1% my curiosity is to blame, since I wander way above my brain's pay grade)

@snailboat Current high school chemistry is a paraphrasing of what people found out about 200 years ago.

It gets reduced to only a century in university courses. Typically it doesn't get to recent discoveries at all until PhD, unless the student chooses their topic of research from something recent.

Anonymous

That's not the case in the US

Anonymous

Although basically all science courses are somewhat out-of-date and generally contain some information known to be inaccurate

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

That's the case in pretty much Earth.

Anonymous

But no, you're very much mistaken.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Well, I've seen topics that are discussed in The Periodic Table and the site.

Anonymous

19:36

My high school chemistry course was of course out-of-date, as can be expected, but nothing like 200 years out-of-date

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

They all are discoveries from at most 1960s.

Anonymous

Yeah, that's fair.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Or,

they're about something bogus or, from a molecule that is mystical to scientists.

@snailboat 200-years-ago knowledge doesn't mean it's out-dated.

Just, over-simplified.

On extreme cases yeah, of course.

Anonymous

Well, it'd be a waste of time to give anyone a chemistry course teaching the state of the art from 1815.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Physics they teach pretty much dates back to Faraday's time.

The most advanced chemistry courses in standard syllabuses in pre-university usually cite Arrhenius' work.

Anonymous

19:40

I'm glad our schools aren't nearly that bad here.

Anonymous

In general you can expect high school courses to be a few decades out-of-date and contain oversimplifications, things known to be inaccurate . . .

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I've heard the schools in the US are more practical.

Anonymous

Well, our schools are terrible.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@snailboat I'm yet to see something in any course they teach anywhere on Earth about any science subject at any time taught to any human being younger than 20, that isn't inaccurate.

(Of course it might be different about linguistics)

Anonymous

It is different.

Anonymous

19:43

No one teaches anything about linguistics in American schools to students younger than 18. :-)

Anonymous

People grow up thinking "linguist" means "someone who can speak lots of languages"

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Yeah I figured, teaching language science is different.

Anonymous

People just don't learn grammar at all.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

People study the big picture, and then get to smaller details.

If they do.

Anonymous

The entire field of modern linguistics does not exist, from the point of view of high school and earlier education in the US.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

19:44

@snailboat At least we're better in one aspect here. :)

Anonymous

There are plenty of countries where grammar is taught, although almost always a form of traditional grammar that is rather lacking

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Part of it is because Persian isn't as dramatically changing everyday as English.

Agreed.

Anonymous

Usually students who are taught grammar about their native language are taught a grammar that is, well, not very good.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

And not well-classified at all.

They tend to teach classifications of words that are really arbitrary here.

Anonymous

Most English speakers, on the other hand, grow up familiar with just a few grammatical terms, and in general don't actually know what those terms mean.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

19:46

And the only people agreeing with the book authors are book authors.

Like "noun", "verb", "prep" and alike?

Anonymous

Yeah.

Anonymous

"subjunctive", "tense", "passive"

Anonymous

"noun", "verb", "preposition"

Anonymous

People don't actually know what these mean, but most English speakers are familiar with the words at least.

Anonymous

Like, "tense", for example. Lots of English speakers think "tense" means something like "form of a verb OR construction that a verb appears in with auxiliary verbs"

Anonymous

19:49

So they think that English has not only past and present tenses, but a "passive tense", etc.

Anonymous

That's because these things are never really laid out, and they aren't put into technical contexts where they could see the actual distinction between what is a tense and what is not a tense, and certainly are never given theoretical arguments about what should be considered a tense or not

Anonymous

They're just sort of picked up from context without explanation, and the context is very often insufficient

Anonymous

If you ask a lot of Americans to define "noun", they'll say something like "a person, place, or a thing"

Anonymous

And they'll say a verb is a "doing word" or "a word that expresses an action"

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Bingo! Same things happens here about any subject in school.

Anonymous

19:51

We have lots of compulsory subjects here, and lots of students who aren't interested in actually learning anything in them

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@snailboat I'll say the same in Persian. But that's when I'm explaining things to my little brother.

Anonymous

Not to mention lots of teachers who aren't actually interested in teaching anything

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Interesting.

Anonymous

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I think in general grade schoolers are old enough to understand most of the basic concepts in linguistics

Anonymous

Young kids in general are very smart

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

19:53

I agree with some parents that kids have potentials that remain locked in schools.

Anonymous

And the basics of linguistics aren't terribly difficult to grasp.

Anonymous

Of course, everyone's different.

Anonymous

But most kids, I think, are bright enough to grasp most concepts well before they're actually taught in American schools.

Anonymous

We basically waste all of grades one through six here.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Same thing happens in Iran . . . Everything is compulsory, and everything compulsory drives away uninterested students.

Us too.

Anonymous

19:55

It's terrible. Not only had I already learned pretty much everything they taught us before I entered the first grade, but they taught us lots of things I realized, even at the time, were false.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Actually, there are exams to separate good and bad students, the best students get to study in "Tizhoshan" schools.

Is there anything like that in the US?

Anonymous

I did go to a gifted school, but they didn't let me in until the fifth grade. I don't know why.

Anonymous

That school was ungraded, and I got to focus on programming there.

Anonymous

My friend who died last week was my best friend from that gifted school.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Ahh

Well I'm in a gifted school right now. ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ

Anonymous

19:58

I wasn't good at making friends, even at that school.

Anonymous

Although I was bullied much less there.

Anonymous

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M School system in the US vary quite a lot from region to region. They tend to be funded and organized on a local level.

Anonymous

Some places have gifted programs, some do not.

Anonymous

The program I attended only allowed 4 students from each regular school.

Anonymous

So access was unfortunately fairly limited.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

20:00

Hmm, gifted schools are unanimously funded by government here.

Anonymous

Yeah, see, they're funded by the government here―but local government

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Ours is local to Iran.

Anonymous

The US federal government generally doesn't pay for schools.

Anonymous

I was lucky to grow up in an area where schools were very well funded, although I still think those schools weren't very good.

Anonymous

In other areas, schools are often very poorly funded. Imagine areas where most folks don't have school-age children.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

20:02

Schools are never very good.

Anonymous

So of course they don't want to pay tax for other people's children to attend school.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Every gathering has its own downsides.

Anonymous

So although I say they weren't very good, I'm fairly certain that many other schools were (and are) considerably worse.

Anonymous

Chicago has a famously bad public school system.

Anonymous

(I didn't grow up in Chicago proper, but in the Chicagoland area.)

Anonymous

20:03

I had a lot of friends who attended private schools, and some of those were supposed to be pretty good.

Anonymous

But.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@snailboat I don't know the difference.

Anonymous

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Chicago is a city. It's surrounded by suburbs and such.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Aha.

Anonymous

Chicago as well as the entire surrounding area are "Chicagoland".

Anonymous

20:04

There are about 10 million people there.

Anonymous

Chicago itself has less than 3 million.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Got it.

Anonymous

When I was in high school, I became friends with a number of students at other schools, including those top-tier private schools, because of debate / forensics

Anonymous

"Forensics" is basically speech team, including debate events.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Debates are your "plus side", as Jihoon puts it.

Anonymous

20:06

And when I got to know kids at the most prominent private school in the area, I learned that the school had a pretty major drug problem.

Anonymous

I was surprised.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Childhood is all about surprises.

Anonymous

That's true, I suppose.

Anonymous

Then again, my post-childhood life hasn't stopped being full of surprises. ;-)

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

K, @snail I gotta invade the bed. It was a fun chat. Later!

Anonymous

20:11

Rest well!

Anonymous

It must be late there. It's only 1PM here.

Stephie

@snailboat - which would put you on the West Coast? Hi, btw!

Anonymous

@Stephie Yes, that's right! Hello! I currently live near San Jose

Stephie

Gives me a serious case of itchy feet... <sigh>

Anonymous

I grew up in Illinois, though

Stephie

20:16

figured that much...

Anonymous

Oh, well, I suppose you saw my earlier messages :-)

Stephie

Have been here a few minutes... But am here for the first time.

Anonymous

Welcome to ELL chat!

Stephie

Thanks! After @inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M found me over at the Frying Pan he invited me to stop by.

Anonymous

Ahh

Anonymous

20:18

Hopefully we can keep this an active, productive room for discussing English and other things

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Don't ping me I'm trying to sleep!

Anonymous

We do go off-topic here

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

(The speaker volume is at 0 tho')

Anonymous

Although I think it's helpful to learners. It provides a space for learners to discuss what they want in English :-)

Stephie

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M, you asked for it ;-)

What's the time at your place?

Oh, UTC +3:30! Sorry,, sleep tight!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

20:21

00:49:08 a.m.

Stephie

Doesn't your computer have an "off" button...? (ok, mine apparently doesn't either)

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

You can turn the sounds of the pings off.

Anonymous

That's what I do.

Stephie

@snailboat - so what are typical topics here?

Anonymous

Well, we do talk about English a lot, including questions on ELL.

Anonymous

20:24

Along with other sorts of meta-discussion about ELL.

Anonymous

Sometimes we talk about other languages, too.

Anonymous

That's partially my fault―I have a tendency to talk about Japanese :-)

Stephie

Help me out - how does one talk about English? Perhaps I should read a few old logs?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Also about snails, robots, molecules, politics, Japanese, chem.SE . . .

Anonymous

Oh, well, for example

Anonymous

20:25

We had a very brief discussion about reduced relatives here: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/23534709#23534709

Anonymous

But then it derailed into a discussion about education more generally

Anonymous

There was a conflict here a few days ago, and that's still in the chat logs, unfortunately

Anonymous

So if you look back, you might see that.

Stephie

Oh, I think I heard about the conflict...

Seems there was quite some fuss? Whatever.

Anonymous

I'm only pointing it out so you aren't surprised if you see the chat log. We don't really need to rehash it now.

Anonymous

20:28

Best to move on :-)

Anonymous

I think a lot of the time discussion about English starts when someone links to an interesting question on ELL.

Anonymous

Then we can discuss the particular problem in that question.

Anonymous

And sometimes that leads to one of us writing an answer.

Stephie

I see...

Anonymous

Other times, a learner will say something ungrammatical and we'll discuss that.

Stephie

20:32

Thanks for the wrap-up! <big yawn> have to go, it's "only" UTC+1 here but I've been up since 6... I will come back these days, if I may. Was nice to meet you!

Anonymous

Have a good night! You too!

Anonymous

Come back any time!

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