ELL's Cabin

Freddy

13:31

hola

user116848

Yo!

Freddy

@Arrowfar is that you in your avatar?

user116848

Naah that's not me.

user116848

in The Frying Pan, 2 days ago, by Jay

Is that you in your profile picture? If so, you are a handsome bastard

Freddy

ohh, who is that? looks like filmstar

ya he is handsome

user116848

13:39

@Freddy A model from Iraq.

Freddy

2015 is ban and unban year for India!

user116848

I can't find the wikipedia entry in English but here it is:

user116848

Omar Borkan Al Gala

Omar Borkan Al Gala es un fotógrafo, actor y poeta árabe, conocido mundialmente a través de las redes sociales en 2013 por presuntamente haber sido uno de los tres hombres expulsados de Arabia Saudita por ser demasiado «guapo» para las mujeres presentes en un festival Tras el revuelo de convertirse en una de las historias más viralizadas por internet junto a la difusión de sus fotografías, fue invitado a dar entrevistas en diversos programas de televisión y portada de revistas, siendo presentado por la prensa internacional como «el árabe o el hombre más guapo del mundo», realizando una gira que...

Anonymous

@Freddy I don't understand what you mean by that

Anonymous

@Arrowfar He has really nice eyes.

user116848

13:46

@snailboat Yeah he has. A muslim!

user116848

@Freddy Yes I don't understand this either.

Freddy

Government banned Maggie(most famous noodles) and then adult websites(crazy thing) and within two month both got approval again

I think approval is better word

user116848

@Freddy Here in Pakistan many websites are blocked too.

user116848

@Freddy Maggie noodles is not banned here everyone eats it. But I hear it is not nutritional.

Freddy

Here already net neutrality and then government took such decision so there was lot of opposition.

user116848

13:55

I haven't checked the current status though. I don't follow news very often not even local.

Freddy

This type of stuff are treading on Instagram, that's the reason I am updated.

user116848

I see.

HarryCBurn

We have some sites banned over here. Sucked when I was trying to learn about how some hacking methods work.

Anonymous

@Arrowfar I can be kind out of out-of-date when it comes to news.

Freddy

VPN @HarryCBurn

user116848

14:02

@snailboat Yeah same here :)

HarryCBurn

@Freddy I used Tor for it ;p

Freddy

I use tunnel bear

for spotify

user116848

I use Proxy.

HarryCBurn

@Arrowfar Is that the name of the proxy?

Anonymous

I haven't run into internet censorship before, but I do know there is some in the US

Freddy

14:03

I think proxy is only for browser

user116848

@HarryCBurn No. I use the general proxies from the web.

Anonymous

I get the feeling it's a lot worse in a lot of other countries, though.

HarryCBurn

Ah, right.

Freddy

like proxfree.com/proxy

user116848

@snailboat Yes here it is worse even Youtube is not allowed.

Freddy

14:04

@HarryCBurn Which country do you belong?

HarryCBurn

@Freddy UK.

@Arrowfar Oh, wow.

Freddy

@Arrowfar You are Pakistan, right?

user116848

@Freddy Yes I am.

Freddy

@HarryCBurn I got too many cousins in U.K.

ohhh youtube is banned in Pakistan!

user116848

Yep!

user116848

14:06

And it sucks!

user116848

Everyone uses proxies and other channels to bypass the ban.

Freddy

But that makes internet slow

Anonymous

"The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." ― John Gilmore

user116848

Exactly.

user116848

@Freddy Yes some softwares like Hotspotshied make the internet very slow.

user116848

14:08

I don't use that.

Anonymous

@Freddy It's definitely a colossal waste of resources.

Anonymous

It's unfortunate that so many people try to break the internet.

Freddy

Net neutrality in India

As of April 2015, there were no laws governing net neutrality in India, which would require that all Internet users be treated equally, without discriminating or charging differentially by user, content, site, platform, application, type of attached equipment, or mode of communication. There have already been a few violations of net neutrality principles by some Indian service providers. The debate on network neutrality in India gathered public attention after Airtel, a mobile telephony service provider in India, announced in December 2014 additional charges for making voice calls (VoIP) from its...

user116848

But the funny thing is Youtube here works on phone.

user116848

Crazy stuff happens here (where I live).

Freddy

14:10

Same here

Jude Niroshan

Hi

user116848

Yo!

user116848

@Freddy So why is Youtube banned there? Here it is religious reasons. There?

Jude Niroshan

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Q: I got survived or I survived

I got survived. I survived. When I was talking with my friends I told, I got survived from that accident. Suddenly all of my friends laughed at me said, "dude, use proper English" Please tell me the difference between those two sentences and when to use them

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Anonymous

Survive is usually intransitive, and clauses with intransitive verbs can't be passivized.

Anonymous

14:14

The former would be a get-passive if it were grammatical.

Freddy

@Arrowfar YouTube is not banned here. Not possible, because government also use YouTube for many advertisement

user116848

ah

Anonymous

There is a special use of survive that appears in the passive: "He was survived by his wife and six children." But this is always a be-passive, never a get-passive.

Anonymous

In this special passive meaning, the subject he actually died, and the wife and six children lived on in his absence.

Anonymous

But that sense of survive doesn't apply to your example―you're still alive.

Jude Niroshan

14:25

So, which form is correct as I'm still alive? :)

Anonymous

*I got survived is ungrammatical.

Anonymous

14:47

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A: what does "still" imply in a question sentence?

What the grammar books are telling you is that when you're negating a sentence, you can't usually use still. *It isn't still raining. It's not raining anymore. In questions, you typically use the affirmative form. But negated questions are possible, in which case, you must use anymore ...

Anonymous

It isn't still raining doesn't seem ungrammatical to me.

HarryCBurn

15:01

@Freddy Too many?

Stack Exchange

20:12

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Q: Please add a link to a comprehensive list of English ver/preposition pairs and their meaningsg

When learning English, my wife often uses the wrong preposition with a verb. Could someone please add a resource (website or book) with a comprehensive list of English verb/preposition pairs and their meanings where they can simply look up the verb and find out which preposition to use.

feature-request

Damkerng T.

20:50

@JudeNiroshan The answers over there seem to be distracted by got and the passive voice. What you would want to say for your "I got survived from that accident." is "I survived that accident."

Anonymous

21:01

I guess because it asks about "I got survived." as a complete sentence

Anonymous

That's a good point, though

Anonymous

That's another transitive use—why doesn't it appear in the passive?

Damkerng T.

@snailboat I guess "The accident was survived by me" would sound very, very weird, if it was grammatical.

Anonymous

The other transitive use appears almost exclusively in the passive.

Anonymous

That is also weird.

Damkerng T.

21:06

I was trying to get back to bed, but it wasn't very successful... :D

Anonymous

Oh no!

Anonymous

I'm playing the lawyer game on my 3DS

Damkerng T.

Nice!

Anonymous

In this game they just call the judge 裁判長

Anonymous

Which is not exactly 'Your Honor'

Anonymous

21:08

I remember you asked about that

Damkerng T.

Yes! I did!

Calling the judge 裁判長 seems like calling the judge "Judge".

Anonymous

I think maybe you could say 閣下 is close to 'Your Honor', but then you could say that Japan doesn't have a custom of referring to judges that way

Anonymous

If that makes sense

Damkerng T.

Ah, the cultural thing. I wonder what the translators would choose to do.

Anonymous

It's fun playing some video games again :-)

Damkerng T.

21:19

It sounds like you're having a good time. :-)

Anonymous

In this game, you have to cross-examine witnesses and find the contradictions in their testimony!

Damkerng T.

Oh, so you're in the jury?

Anonymous

You're the defense attorney

Damkerng T.

Ahh

Oh, yes. You said cross-examine.

I think the meta post asks about a collocation dictionary.

I don't have a real good one to recommend.

Anonymous

I probably won't be of much help

Anonymous

21:28

Preposition choice can be difficult. It can depend not only on the verb but on the complement of the preposition

Damkerng T.

nods -- It sounds like he was thinking of phrasal verbs rather than the whole range of prepositions, though.

Anonymous

Oh, maybe so

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. More or less. I can't quite focus at the moment, even on a video game.

Damkerng T.

Aww (actually, me either. :-)

Anonymous

I'm just passing time today.

Damkerng T.

21:36

@snailboat Oh, you're one of the monkeys?

Bruno Mars - The Lazy Song [OFFICIAL VIDEO]

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Anonymous

Oh, I'm not familiar with that song

Anonymous

Just some stuff happening in real life right now, is all

Damkerng T.

Ahh

Anonymous

So I've mostly written the day off

Anonymous

What do you think of that sentence structure?

Anonymous

21:40

"Just some stuff happening in real life right now, is all."

Anonymous

It's like there's a complete sentence in subject position.

Damkerng T.

I think it's exactly that!

Instead of saying it in two sentences (X. That is all.) We merge them just like that.

It's the same structure as Just because ... and others, I think.

I have a hunch that someone might've given a nice name to it (the structure). :D

Anonymous

Well, you could call it a sentential complement.

Anonymous

> I was wondering, why is your hair green?

Anonymous

I'm taking the subject as a kind of complement (as in CGEL)

Anonymous

21:46

This is another thingy that looks like a sentential complement to me

Damkerng T.

21:58

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Q: "I did well" vs. "I did good"

I did well. I did good. Which one is a correct sentence? Please explain it with reasons. Can you please define them?

sentence-construction sentence-meaning adjectives adverbs

"Please explain it with reasons"!

How often do we see that? "Please explain with reasons." "Please explain with proofs."

Anyway, as a side effect, the question makes it obvious that the Classroom English is another dialect.

Catija

GRRRRRR I'm really frustrated by this preposition/verb guy.

Damkerng T.

Eh?

Catija

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Q: Please add a link to a comprehensive list of English ver/preposition pairs and their meaningsg

When learning English, my wife often uses the wrong preposition with a verb. Could someone please add a resource (website or book) with a comprehensive list of English verb/preposition pairs and their meanings where they can simply look up the verb and find out which preposition to use.

feature-request

Damkerng T.

You meant the spelling?

Catija

@DamkerngT. No... We're not a resources database. He's shown no attempt to find one on his own, just expects us to do the work.

Damkerng T.

22:07

Ahh

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