I remember that J.R. asked all of us, native or non-native speakers alike, to back our answers up with references.

I haven't read everything up there, but if Khan did that, isn't that what the site wants?

@snailboat Apparently they haven't... they're still commenting on it.

There is certainly a point that dictionaries don't capture how we really use language.

Once, I tried looking for a definition of "silly" that included any sort of idea of "fun"

I couldn't find any. Only stupid. foolish.

@JimReynolds Look at Nima's stimulate vs. challenge.

@JimReynolds Dictionaries have to cover more language than we would use in the ordinary course of life.

Because we usually know what those words mean.

Yes, but less common doesn't always imply "you shouldn't use"

Again, that's not what I'm saying. Aren't I allowed to say "this isn't commonly-used, and you should have said that"?

Another is being told "you can't do this" for simplicity's sake, and then later finding out, "Well you really can. We just tell that to learners so you can remember it."

Or does my opinion have to be either "you should use this all the time" or "you should never use this"?

From the answer: Third, though it's not common, it's also correct to use the adjective storied with a number prefixed to express the number of floors a building has such as "five-storied/storeyed houses".

O.O

@Catija This guy's cat apparently preferred to displace its leavings on their shoe. That's what I think happened. He needs to blow off steam, even if it's unreasonable.

Expect a -10 meta.ELU post.

@JimReynolds Ah, this was updated and the AJAX didn't notify me.

@jimsug Sockets are playful and funny these days.

Yeah, I was getting double chat pings all morning.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I've passed him a rose. I've told him that if he wants to flag I will abide by whatever the mod decides.

Were you leaving or arriving when you waved?

OMG I'm noticed.

@Catija Arriving.

Cool!

Yeah, I can tell that from the mountainous message thread above.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I'm half asleep and was in bed until this thing started... and I'm not talking about this "story/storied" convo in here.

What was all the chilli about?

@Catija Heh, I know the feeling.

Kinda, sorta.

I dunno. I was a public safety dispatcher for seven years. When we dispatched to fires, we always had to include how many stories a building had . . . er, I mean how storied a building was. O.O

No but seriously, some people said four-storied commercial wooden structure ... blah, blah,

And some said x-story. I am quite sure I'm used to it myself.

Both ways.

I'm sure I've heard "storied" but I'm not a fan. People also say a lot of eggcorn stuff they don't realize they've got wrong.

Then there are those hotels that had a lot of murders in them and are populated by ghosts. .... they are many-storied.

@JimReynolds Well, that's completely different, though ;)

O.O

Huh, is this about that adjectivized "storey" question?

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M The one that just got closed as duplicate? Yeah, I think so.

Firefighters should know how many ghosts they're being sent in to deal with.

Yay!!

I wasn't there when it got closed. :'(

I started that, from snailboat's pointing, which then disappeared.

Snailboat retracted her head into her shell a few times earlier.

Hi. Good Morning Everyone!

Snail party?

No pretzels, I assume.

Or unsalted ones, if any. Hi Jude.

/me finishes reading upchat and greets everyone

@JimReynolds yikes

\o

@snailboat the story/storied thing? Likely a matter of mode.

Chat's been hot.

Reminds me of the Tavern.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M hehe. yup. handle it carefully without burning your hand

I assume it's more acceptable in spoken language.

But that data is scarce.

@JudeNiroshan I don't have a hand. I'm a diamondoid.

As much as I love COCA, I find lots of things that I . . . don't . . . find.

Uh.

I ..

That is ..

OK. I'm taking the dogs for a walk.

@jimsug That sometimes happens when you agree to chat with this guy. He's kinda fun, kinda rude.

Because Sam's not here today, you may need to do this task.

Why do you want to say it another way?

Did you want to understand the meaning, or do you want to write it with a different feeling or ... ?

You might need to do it because Sam is not here, and Sam usually does it.

@JimReynolds looking for a formal way

Yeah, that.

It's pretty formal as it is, but you don't need "here".

@JudeNiroshan This is as formal as it gets, unless you wanna get back to Shakespeare's time.

And yeah, omit here.

As Sam isn't present today, you may need to ...

"Isn't" is usually ok even in formal language.

And even to say "As Sam isn't here today, you may need to...."

Is still formal, in my opinion.

It's not informal.

@JimReynolds ohh ok. isn't is quiet ok; comparatively to aren't and doesn't in formal writing

Yes.

@JimReynolds I'm guessing... I'm guessing that you've heard it both ways because you're old enough. :-)

@JimReynolds does that sentence sounds like commanding? Will it be ok if a junior is saying this to his team leader ?

Why you ....

It is polite enough for anyone to say to anyone, in most situations.

Hehe! -- It looks like two-storeyed began to fade in the 60s.

@DamkerngT. Remember our first chat messages with this guy? He admitted his teeth are falling out. . .

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M The people in Tavern on the Meta always ignore me. :(

If it was "commanding" that would only happen from tone of voice.

There are two stories about that, Damkerng!

@Catija They never say hi to anyone.

ok.

@JimReynolds Could be!

@Catija HI! (so we are different from them)

Actually, @snailboat also began to fade in the 60s.

Either you have a bot to throw in the poor chat, or have something to say about blames or unicorns or 6-8 something, or you're not there.

@JimReynolds It's midnight there.

:D Hi @JudeNiroshan

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Or freehand circles?

Well, yeah, if there's a screenshot.

Sheesh. . .It looks like my handwriting.

lol

@DamkerngT. OOOH, compare with "two story" and "two storied".

Yes. Oh, it was storey vs. storeyed.

See ... So you were completely gone by 1980. Fading was well underway in the 60s, indeed!

@snailboat lol. One snail is older than 13 years to me! Crazy fact ! :D

Or to the amount of nonsense spewed from inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M.

@JudeNiroshan :D

In any language.

Tries spouting Mongolian nonsense

@snailboat How is it going with Einstein in there?

Hey, that ain't Mongolian. :(

@snailboat :O You're... older than me. :( But not by much. 1982.

Love this font change

Relatively well.

@JudeNiroshan What font change ?

@JudeNiroshan Font change?

Cat, that is the year I would have graduated high school, if I had graduated high school.

Touche.

@snailboat Well... I was so used to being older than mar...

Dotheth thee inthulteths mye?

Hah! Now I have that é thingy on my porkchat list.

@snailboat I'm -16 years old.

@snailboat So... those two things put us in about the same place though, anyway... seeing as it's only a year.

@JimReynolds Nay.

@Catija, I'll send you a giftcard if it's the right one.

Or would it be a gift card?

@JimReynolds Stop using your old-people talk... selfie-stick, binge-watch, humblebrag... those are all current words now... right?

If it's a smartcard, it would be a gifted card.

@snailboat "storied" sounds odd. It's a "five story building".

Oh, I can't remember all these new things people are talking about. TV ??

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I see the font has changed in Chat Room. Not sure whether it came from browser or in site

@JudeNiroshan Screenshot, or it didn't happen.

@snailboat it does totally!

But I feel like an old person when I constantly add "-ly" to what they say on tv.

@snailboat really... really

Reallily?

@snailboat I know. I think we've even talked about it before. It's just one of my pet peeves.

now, it's more flatly adverbs.

Yeah, I understood that. Totally.

@snailboat And -ish will replace -ly, -ize, -ify, and such.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Absolute-ish!

@DamkerngT. You mean, they'll izify ishified adverblies?

Not really. I mean it will be ishish ishishish adverbish-es.

:D

Oh, @JimReynolds I did listen to your students' tape. Did you want responses here or ? I don't honestly have much to say because I'm not certain what I'm listening for. I have a friend from an island in China and they have pretty similar speech patterns, actually. Not sure if it's the language or the island thing... I'm sure the accents are regional to some extent.

I can.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Witch! Burn him!

There is a department store named The Future. I see it every once in a while. Does that count? :P

@Catija's gonna get a chat message from me saying that there are instructions in that Google drive link.

@Cat there are instructions in that Google drive link.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Bah. I can't figure out where it went. I downloaded everything except the instructions page.

Hah!

Well, pretty much everything in them emphasized the fact that these students aren't supposed to be fluent fluent, just a little fluent, so your score shouldn't be that low.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M No, I mean where to send my assessment... I wasn't sure if there was an email in that instruction sheet or what.

@Catija @Dam coded it, posted it here, and then gave @JimR a site's link about how to decode it.

That was so ideal, I rampaged.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Now I have to search...

Basecode64.org.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Yeah, I saw that... but I've no clue how to do that fancy hexcode stuff.

@Catija Me neither, but I think the site'll do it for you.

@snailboat Who punched you?

Good choice.

I'll use kick from now on.

@Catija The encoder is here: base64encode.org

Though there are more vulgar substitutions.

It did. . .

OK... now that I have that "bookmarked". (and that's in quotes because my version of "bookmarking" is to make a tab and then minimize the tab...)

Three spam flags in 7 minutes. . .Don't you ever stop being a flag heaven meta.SE!

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Are those Chinese adverts still popping up? I got 4-5 of them about 15 minutes ago.

@Catija Yeah. . .But they just popped down I guess.

@snailboat Yeah, one of the mods on M&TV wishes he could close vote without using his modhammer close vote.

@snailboat Kinda.

I certainly think that would be nice.

@snailboat You've asked the right person.

@Cat I would love to get your assessment. It's hard to say how to rate. Otherwise I'd be more confident about my own.

Huh, K.

I'm so used to $ldots$ I forget them.

You can just put them here or email me. Sexy on my profile.

Whenever there are dollar signs I automagically put spaces, but no dollar sign, no cigar . . . I mean no space.

Bah, ideally I won't be this silly here.

@JimReynolds You founded a chain of bakeries???

@Catija Hey I upcoated your meta.SE Q.

Now the spaces all want breaks. Unionized.

It's worth upcoating.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M IKR!?! It's a good idea.

That why it's hardly going to be implemented.

@snailboat An app I have converts ... to the ellipsis character automatically, but it won't convert . . . :(

@snailboat envies!

@DamkerngT. . . .

ThThTh?

I think that's "dot-dot-dot" in Japanese.

Its thingy is too tall.

It must be an h.

@snailboat For me, it's this character: 人

Darn.

I'm mistyping 'em a lot these days.

Lambda!

Person

Two strokes vs. one!

It's actually like drawing a sword.

@ Cat yes! With my best friend and someone else's money.

@snailboat That's eight in Persian.

Looks for his money

@JimReynolds How fun! Are they still around (the bakeries, not the people)?

@snailboat Interesting . . . Here's our eight: ۸.Actually, the Arial font for Persian is small.

Now there's only one left. In snailboat's neighborhood.

I wonder how ۸ evolved into 8.

/me flies away. Bye guys and someone else.

They left me and my friend on our own with nothing but How to start a biz for dummies (really)...until we had four. Then the board got involved operationally from Japan and ruined it.

Bye!

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Bye!

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Fly safely.

That's another character!

I counted 9!

Interesting!

Oh, it looks quite different in handwriting!

I guess their shorthand would be like that!

Oh, doesn't the rightmost one look wrong or like an alternate style?

nods -- I can see two strokes look like they're in the reverse.

Gothic is screen-friendly, I think.

AHHHH... The more I listen to these girls, the more nit-picky I get. @JimReynolds :( Not that they're bad at all... I think they do quite well... Ugh. I'm glad I'm not you.

It's easy to be nit-picky, and easy to be generous (whenever we can understand them at all). It's very hard to try to give them something that they can use as a benchmark to measure against later, or to compare themselves to some standard.

Yes. I spent two months in Dallas when I was a teenager and returned to California with a Southern accent.

@JimReynolds My mom yelled at me when I was in England for speaking with a British accent.

I hope you didn't tell her, "Kiss my arse!" O.O

@JimReynolds No... but that makes me think of My Fair Lady.

Gosh. All I know about My Fair Lady is that it's the title of something.

I might guess something British. Britishisishy.

@JimReynolds Please tell me you're kidding?

Yes!

Seriously!

I know it's famous.

Does that count for something?

Audrey Hepburn (but sung by Marnie Nixon)...

Based on Pygmalion.

I grew up in a fishing and lumber town of 5,000 people. The only reason I got into college is because we had no TV so I started reading every non-fiction book in the library.

It so happened that I started in the mystery section. I wonder if I'd make a good detective.

What is the Magna Carta? I don't know.

I know it's famous.

Hmmmm.

One of those same women, my students in the sound file, told me early on that her favorite group was Maroon 5.

I didn't recognize the name.

Considering you're essentially Henry Higgins, you should at least watch My Fair Lady.

Henry Higgins, forty years old, is a bundle of paradoxes. In spite of his brilliant intellectual achievements, his manners are usually those of the worst sort o

O.O

@JimReynolds I mean more in the sense of your line of work, not your personality.

(In "hip-hop" voice): Catija, you can put away yo' hammer, because you just nailed me!

I stopped after "brilliant". :D

@Dam where did you go?

He might be in hibernation mode.

@JimReynolds Hullo!

Was it? haha

Hugs the robot.

Oh, are we singing in here?

@Dam, you said something earlier I found soooo funny.

I have been trying to go back and find it.

But I'm slow.

No need to hurry. :P

@snailboat ♬ Wee... ♬

I know. Your firmware doesn't include the impatience upgrade.

@JimReynolds What do you mean by "sexy on my profile"... you say I can email you but I can't find your email on your profile, if that's what you mean. :(

Haha. New smartphone!!

@snailboat Ooooh, good word.

I got my sexy here, I got my sexy there. I leave my sexy, every-sexy-where.

[email protected]

I thought it was in here.

Damkerng emailed me once.

Tangentially related to My Fair Lady as the other person famous for portraying Eliza is also the most famous person to sing "Do a Deer".

Now I send him my deepest thoughts and experiences almost hourly.

Little-known fact: a female snail is also called a doe.