ELL's Cabin

Anonymous

00:14

@NathanTuggy That user regular deletes and re-asks questions to get rid of things like comments or answers they don't want to be there.

Nathan Tuggy

@snailboat Oh, wonderful. Anything else that can be done?

Anonymous

@NathanTuggy Well, I started a meta discussion at one point.

Anonymous

8

Q: Is it okay for users to delete questions and re-ask them verbatim?

Ten minutes ago, a user deleted a question they'd asked and created a new substantially identical question in its place. The old question had an answer, but it was downvoted and had already been deleted by the author, so there was no loss there. It did, however, have at least one helpful commen...

discussion

Anonymous

And other users have noticed the pattern repeating after I posted it:

Anonymous

Basically the same thing has happened again with the same user, this time with Put Under Investigation and To Be Under Investigation. I’m giving meatie the benefit of the doubt and treating this as a defecit of understanding and not a subversive act. As far as I can tell, we have (perhaps by writing beautifully rather than clearly) given this user the impression that the deletion is the problem. — Tyler James Young Jul 31 '14 at 17:57

Anonymous

00:15

ell.stackexchange.com/questions/37644/… ell.stackexchange.com/questions/35258/the-usage-of-withhold — jimsug Oct 25 '14 at 10:18

Anonymous

As J.R. wrote in that meta thread:

Anonymous

@Esoteric - This particular user in a known SE troll who has played the same game for years, under different monikers and sock puppets. I was trying to dance around that backstory while informing the community about who they are "helping" with their time and efforts. I don't so much mind the questions – some of them are a bit clever and may be helpful for the learner – but I'm not quite so fond of the ensuing discussions. — J.R. ♦ Sep 15 '14 at 9:20

Anonymous

Their questions aren't usually real questions to begin with, and their behavior isn't really in line with SE rules or beneficial to the community. But as far as I know, besides making another meta-thread pointing out that this happened dozens of times, there isn't much we can do as regular users.

Nathan Tuggy

Bleh.

/me wonders how long the q-ban will take to kick in

Anonymous

I don't think at this point it's likely to ever kick in.

Anonymous

00:19

stackexchange.com/leagues/229/alltime/ell/2013-01-23/6362#6362

jimsug

I don't think it will, sadly.

Anonymous

It's not really designed for persistent (borderline?) troll behavior that the moderator chooses to tolerate

jimsug

Only thing I can think of is undelete, then close the new one as dup or merge if there are questions.

Anonymous

@jimsug I'm fairly sure J.R. does take action sometimes, although it's hard for me to really remain aware of what exactly those actions are.

jimsug

But yeah, as you say. This is why there are moderators.

Nathan Tuggy

00:20

@jimsug Yeah, that would be my preference.

Anonymous

Well, moderator.

Anonymous

The other three are inactive.

jimsug

:/ well, as long as he's handling it fine.

Anonymous

J.R. does a good job with moderating in general. He's a people person and is really patient, friendly, and manages to moderate without getting on anyone's bad side.

Anonymous

He keeps things positive.

Anonymous

00:22

I don't agree with the particular site policies ELL has, like encouraging answers in comments for example, but

Anonymous

That doesn't mean I think J.R. is doing a bad job as a moderator

Anonymous

Anyway, it's up to him to contact the SE team if he ever feels he needs more help

Nathan Tuggy

@snailboat Barring really obvious cases where he can't suddenly keep up, I assume

Anonymous

@NathanTuggy Well, J.R. is here pretty often!

Anonymous

You might see a few times here and there where he doesn't show up for a few days.

Anonymous

00:24

But the community does a lot of handling things like Not An Answer flags itself.

Nathan Tuggy

Yeah, it doesn't seem likely that we'll run into any serious dry spells any time soon

Anonymous

We've got a lot of active reviewers.

Anonymous

A lot of the time I imagine it's not necessary for diamond moderators to do anything.

Anonymous

I'm a moderator on Japanese.SE, and we're a significantly smaller site :-)

Anonymous

1516

Japanese Language – japanese.stackexchange.com

Beta Q&A site for students, teachers, and linguists wanting to discuss the finer points of the Japanese language.

Currently in public beta.

Anonymous

00:29

913

English Language Learners – ell.stackexchange.com

Beta Q&A site for speakers of other languages learning English.

Currently in public beta.

Anonymous

I'm not a very good moderator, though. Moderating is hard.

Damkerng T.

02:06

I wonder how this bounty will end up.

8

Q: Use of "go" in passive form

Can we use verb "Go" in passive voice?

verb passive-voice

Catija

07:07

I am so tired of ELU migrating questions to ELL that should just be closed because they're crappy questions on any site.

Jim Reynolds

07:21

ell.stackexchange.com/review/close/25537

@Cat I know of no policy prohibiting several related questions from being asked.

Furthermore, I think the the expectation that research be done first applies when a poster asks a question that should otherwise be easily answered by looking something up.

The question about "I who am your teacher, verb [something]" is not unclear. The poster wants to know if it's grammatical.

Catija

07:35

@JimReynolds The only thing that makes them "related" is being on the same test. Otherwise, they're not related at all. The OP doesn't even say what he thinks the answer is, only what the test says the correct answer is. Even simply stating "I think it should be A because ___ and not C" would show that they've made some attempt at answering the question.

@JimReynolds He's asking for proofreading and not even explaining what he's trying to say. We don't do proofreading and it's impossible to answer the question in any way that's helpful without knowing what he does want to say.

Jim Reynolds

Proofreading?

I disagree. I think the policy against "proofreading" may not be very clear, however.

Catija

The only possible way to answer that question is to say "no, it's not correct". There's no way to say what is correct because it's completely unclear what he's trying to say, which is why I've VTC as "unclear what you're asking".

Jim Reynolds

Which one?

Oh. "I who am your teacher, ____" Well: Is it, or is it not, grammatical?

jimsug

@Catija Best thing to do is to draw attention to crappy migrations with a meta post.

If it's the same person, multiple times, or from the same sites.

The ELL mod(s) can then talk about it upstairs because it's a ~~real~~ problem that multiple people have noticed/agree with.

Jim Reynolds

I don't know if it's ever been decided anywhere which questions belong to which. If not, that's going to remain a problem until there's a comprehensive effort to resolve it.

Is it wrong or bad when someone answers on ELU, an elementary question about English that we'd expect only an ELL to have?

jimsug

07:50

Well, it's not as though any question necessarily belongs only on one site.

the SE network is like a series of lenses through which we question the world.

A question could be on topic on ELU and ELL, but they could get very different answers on each site.

Or Physics and Bicycles, for example.

Jim Reynolds

Exactly. But on ELU help, I think there's policy guideline to evaluate "whether the question's more suitable for ELL".

jimsug

So it's possible that there's some overlap with the questions that could be on-topic on ELU and ELL, but the answers will be different.

Maybe start a meta post on ELU? :/

Jim Reynolds

No. I prefer to wait until @Cat gets frustrated with something and then disagree with her.

O.O

jimsug

o.O

Jim Reynolds

hugs Cat.

Actually, I do agree with you, @jims, on all your points.

And I recognize your intention to improve the site(s), @Cat. ;

I just think we can usually do something more helpful than close questions right and left and we could offer users advice that helps them move forward instead of being so fast to close everything.

jimsug

08:05

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Q: What is the etiquette about recommending sites in comments?

There are many cases where a user posts a question on site A that either isn't on-topic or seems to be better suited to, say, Site B. Quite often, there is a comment posted that runs along these lines: Might this be better for Site B? This can be helpful - it's brought attention to some sit...

discussion comments etiquette

Hmm. That is less related than I thought it was :P

Jim Reynolds

WHICH IS WHY YOU SHOULD HAVE POSTED IT IN ------, DAMMIT!

:d

Wait, what emoticon did I just produce?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

08:20

@JimReynolds Licking their nose with their tongue. It's kinda useful actually.

@JimReynolds I have to agree with @Cat on this one.

Jim Reynolds

Your opinion is worthless. Go take a nap.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Actually, I just woke up.

Poor @Cat. Someone flamed her back on ELL. Pats @Cat

I do not know who or what to blame, as most of the time a language barrier is to blame, but clearly you're a little bit off the grids here. @Catija only wanted to help you, and asked you for clarifications. Your sentence is ungrammatical, but unless we know why exactly you worded it like that, we wouldn't be able to tackle with your confusion effectively. So sorrowful that with making assumptions you just drew away people who wanted to help you. — inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M 35 secs ago

Sometimes I wanna beat some people up.

Jim Reynolds

Why not just answer his question?

The OP did not feel helped, and I can understand why.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

That's not what SE does.

You answer when you can answer.

Jim Reynolds

He asked if the sentence was "correct".

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

08:33

We answer questions like that, in one months time, it'd turn into a proofreading service.

@JimReynolds It wasn't for sure, and that only needed one word.

. . .Which could be easily indicated in the comments, and was.

jimsug

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Slippery slope

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

\o @Jims @JeffGuKang @santiago.

santiago

yo

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@jimsug That is not without any argument.

Jim Reynolds

Hi everyone.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

08:35

This has been discussed a lot in different shapes in meta.SE, and I think you do know that.

Oh wait darn! I need to go. Lost track of time.

Bye guys.

Jim Reynolds

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Later!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

BTW this was the easiest 115 repz ever:

7

Q: markdown to put a box around text in a comment

This comment displays with a box around some of the text. Firefox and Safari both display it this way. What is the markdown code to create such a box?

support comments design markdown

Jim Reynolds

Awesome catch, MAR!

grawlix !!!!!

You are too cool for school.

jimsug

2

A: What dictates the tags appended to 'Not the answer you're looking for?'

It's just the tags that the question is tagged with - look at this question, for example! I'd put more in this to prevent it coming up in the VLQ post queue, but there's not much more to be said ;)

Easy "A" :P

Anonymous

08:53

I think 'misspelled' implies that you didn't know the correct spelling. 'Mistyped' implies what happened: you know the spelling, but there was an error somewhere between your brain and your fingers. — jamesqf 14 hours ago

Anonymous

Comment-answer at +6. It can't be downvoted, and no matter what, it'll always be featured above any actual answers. And in all likelihood, a real answer posted at this point would remain below 6 votes.

Anonymous

Very little incentive to post a more correct answer at this point for anyone.

Anonymous

It's too bad ELL encourages comment answers. I really do think they break the system.

Jim Reynolds

What about the motive of supplying a correct answer?

Do rep points mean so much to so many that they won't answer just because they guess they won't get more upvotes than an answer in a comment?

Anonymous

I'm not saying it's impossible to post an answer. You can do it if you want. The idea behind the site doesn't work in this case, though.

Anonymous

09:08

People will always see the higher upvoted, featured answer first, the one no one can downvote or edit

Jim Reynolds

You fault the community for too many of us giving answers in comments , and for too many of us rewarding such ansments?

Anonymous

In cases where it's really wrong, permanently featuring the comment answer is actively harmful to readers

Anonymous

Regardless of what appears beneath it

Anonymous

I don't really fault anyone in the community, just the general policy on ELL that short answers should appear in the comments section

Jim Reynolds

That's a policy????

jimsug

09:12

... It's been a custom, as far as I know.

Anonymous

Policy.

Anonymous

16

Q: Submitting Answers that merely answer the question

Lately I've noticed quite a few answers that provide an answer to the O.P.'s question, but provide no supporting information. Sometimes, comments are left, asking for more information; other times, these answers have been flagged by users, and the mod team has converted some of these answers in...

discussion

Anonymous

Short answers shouldn't be answers, they should be comments; and the mods sometimes convert short answers to comments.

Anonymous

That's the sentiment there.

Anonymous

My answer on that post disagreeing was up to 25

Anonymous

09:16

But none of the meta discussion against comment answers ever led to a change

Anonymous

It was at 25 when that question was a lot lower than 16, anyway...

Anonymous

I ended up deleting it, which was probably dumb

jimsug

@snailboat That question is more about referencing rather than short answers.

Anonymous

Anyway.

Anonymous

It's a moot point.

jimsug

09:19

shrugs I've been absent from ELL for far too long to know what the current sentiment is.

Anonymous

Doesn't matter, really.

jimsug

Note that that shrug wasn't indifference towards your opinions, but rather an expression of my not being able to really say much more on it.

Anonymous

The site's going to be run a certain way regardless.

jimsug

Yeah. That's true.

Jim Reynolds

Why was your answer there highlighted shaded?

Anonymous

09:21

I deleted it a long time ago when I decided to be like everyone else and post comment answers

Anonymous

I got rid of my meta posts saying not to post comment answers, saying that answers not good enough for the answer column should be deleted rather than converted to comments

jimsug

Hmm, yeah. I do remember that post.

Anonymous

So I shouldn't be complaining now ;-)

jimsug

Well, I think this is part of the effect of J.R. effectively moderating the site alone.

A strong personality usually wins out in small groups, and he's got no-one to compete with :P

Jim Reynolds

Ha!

jimsug

09:24

God only knows how Law would be run if I was alone.

Not a slight on him.

But the fewer alternate viewpoints you have, the easier it is to make decisions.

For better or for worse.

Personally, I don't recall having any major gripes with his moderation.

Anonymous

He does a good job.

Anonymous

Even if I don't agree with certain decisions.

Jim Reynolds

It's why you should be complaining, applying another line of reasoning.

Anonymous

Ling.SE is in a much more degenerate state from the POV of the SE Q&A site design. It's treated as a discussion site, a forum

jimsug

15

A: What is a candy or chocolate bar packaging informally called?

I'd call it the wrapper : see Collins but it basically means the packaging around something. Can you please pick up the wrapper?

This is still my highest-rated answer on ELL

It would've fit in a comment :P

Anonymous

09:27

That may be fine in the community's eyes...

Anonymous

Well, I've posted short answers before. Some of them got converted to comments.

Anonymous

It's silly, but now I'm kinda afraid to post short answers.

jimsug

Ha.

Challenge accepted.

I will only post answers that are comment-length or less on ELL from now on :P

Of course, as I say, I've been less active on it, but still.

Anonymous

I think the way we interact with the site design affects our decision making process more than we generally think about.

Jim Reynolds

I value concinctivism .

Anonymous

09:29

Including points.

jimsug

@JimReynolds concision?

@snailboat Sure. Imaginary points are fun. But doing some research and getting into the meat of a question is fun for me, too.

Jim Reynolds

Precisivi atism

jimsug

Then again, succinctness is an art worth pursuing, too.

Anonymous

It's the reason gamification works—we respond to artificial rewards automatically, often without realizing it. Sure, other stuff factors in, too, but...

Jim Reynolds

+1 @snailboat

Anonymous

09:32

Anyway, this is me randomly waking up in the middle of the night and ranting in chat... :-)

jimsug

@snailboat This would never happen at The Sidebar

Anonymous

After today I'm going to go back to my path of least resistance-ing

jimsug

There's not enough people :P

Jim Reynolds

By gamification she means the hijacking of the site by gay Asian males.

Anonymous

I got rid of my grumbling in the comments.

Anonymous

09:36

Rant complete. Now I can go back to Team Comment :-)

jimsug

@JimReynolds Hmm. I fit two-thirds of that broad generalisation :P

Anonymous

On Japanese.SE, there's a policy against comment answers, and people flag them and actively quote the meta to one another on a regular basis. But some people there prefer comment answering for various reasons (like they don't want to be downvoted, for example)

jimsug

I wonder what closure stats on ELL are like

Anonymous

Sometimes when users flag comment answers and I remove them, it's decried as abuse on the part of the moderators

Anonymous

I'm tired of that, too :-)

jimsug

09:41

17.79% close rate :|

Anonymous

I should just not be a moderator and not worry about that stuff.

Anonymous

Japanese.SE has a lower close rate, I think

Anonymous

What was the URL for close stats again?

jimsug

/tools/question-close-stats

Anonymous

13.33%!

jimsug

09:44

Law is on 5.53%

Jim Reynolds

I always assumed that more people didn't want to presume to answer, as a modesty or shyness thing.

Anonymous

People are more afraid of downvotes on Japanese.SE than here

jimsug

97% answered on ELL though

Anonymous

99% on Japanese

jimsug

nice

Anonymous

09:47

I think one difference is that LeP is extremely active on ELL

Anonymous

He's the source of a huge portion of our unanswered questions

jimsug

@snailboat I wonder if closed questions count.

Anonymous

Open questions without answers at 1 or above

Anonymous

I imagine LeP is active on Law too, but not on Japanese.SE

jimsug

yeah but not as active.

Anonymous

09:52

I think I'm too grumpy, so I need another break to reduce my grumpiness quotient.

jimsug

10:16

Short answer #1

0

A: With which countries do we use 'The'?

We use "The" where the name refers to an area that is a collection of some kind, or a structure of some kind. What do I mean by this? I lived in China vs The People's Republic of China I lived in America vs The United States of America There are some notable exceptions such as The Netherl...

Jim Reynolds

11:03

When the name contains a proper name (Netherlands, Philippines) or when it includes a political/structural term.

Damkerng T.

@JimReynolds When their government says so? :P

jimsug

@JimReynolds Aren't all country names proper names? :P

Jim Reynolds

Well, if the country name includes or equals a name that was proper in it's own right?

I originally read this in "Grammar for English Teachers" Martin Parrott

Parrot?

Polly wants the Cracker

jimsug

Eh. That's pretty useless to a Language learner

how are they meant to know what is and isn't a name in it's own right?

Jim Reynolds

@jimsug Grammar rules are generally.

jimsug

11:14

@JimReynolds There are good and bad ways of explaining it, though.

Jim Reynolds

Except weird people who love it, and robots.

Yes. I agree. I was inclined to try to blurt out what I "know", without reading the whole postor considering why you pointed to it now.

AND I FIRMLY STAND BY MY PRINCIPLES!!!

(That often earns points no matter what.)

Hey! Aren't't there points in this chat room?

Damkerng T.

@JimReynolds "Points in this chat room" (a parrot says so)

Jim Reynolds

Lol

(Echo): Lol

Damkerng T.

Haha!

Jim Reynolds

Do I seem to recall that jimsug is from ... Singapore??

Why do I think so?

Damkerng T.

11:20

I remember that jimsug is from Australia.

jimsug

@DamkerngT. Yup.

Jim Reynolds

Hmm... That leaves wide open the question of whether he is "Asian".

Did you see his earlier confession?

Damkerng T.

?

Jim Reynolds

He is two of: 1) Asian; 2) male; 3) gay.

jimsug

Confession sounds so morbid.

Damkerng T.

11:23

(Wondering if Australian + Asian = Austronesian)

Jim Reynolds

He is Australopiticine?

So??

I meant:sp?

New phone.

Damkerng T.

Sp = Smartphone?

trying to train his cat to parrot...

Jim Reynolds

Spelling??

Damkerng T.

or his parrot to meow...

Jim Reynolds

0.o

Damkerng T.

11:26

(What kind of pet do I have?!)

Jim Reynolds

Kitty-kitty

Damkerng T.

Kit Kat?

(That's Android 4.4!)

Jim Reynolds

Which is just a little gay. You could qualify as an honorary member.

Damkerng T.

Hah! I'm honored? :-)

Where is my prize?

Jim Reynolds

:-)

Damkerng T.

11:29

looking for some boxes of Kit Kat. :P

Jim Reynolds

Hmm... A toaster oven.

That sounds good.

Damkerng T.

11:57

Catija:What I can do? I share my posts .but I don't get comments. That's why I share my posts on different sites so that I may get quick response. My some posts are not fully answered. I requested our teachers for solving them. — user124234 Jul 23 at 8:16

Maybe that's why many questions are posted on a many sites/stacks at once.

Okay, Catija.but l also have to tell these things to my students. That's why I can't wait. But now , as you said. I will have to wait for your answers. — user124234 Jul 23 at 8:47

Oh, and they are a teacher!

And an English teacher at that.

Stack Exchange

13:17

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Q: A proposal for a meta post that shows our users how to salvage/improve questions

TL;DR: let's make a catalog of "How to salvage your question" examples. There are a handful of reasons that a lot of our questions on our main site, ELL, got closed on. Except for "duplicate of ...", most, if not all, of the questions voted to close on these reasons are salvageable, in my humb...

discussion

Freddy

13:47

hola

Damkerng T.

15:14

@Freddy Halo!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

o/ @Dam

Damkerng T.

\o

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

How're you?

Damkerng T.

I'm okay. :D

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

How am I?

Damkerng T.

15:23

You're okay, I guess. :D

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Don't guess.

I just got back from Kung Fu class thingy.

I was really hyper today.

Damkerng T.

LOL

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

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Q: A proposal for a meta post that shows our users how to salvage/improve questions

TL;DR: let's make a catalog of "How to salvage your question" examples. There are a handful of reasons that a lot of our questions on our main site, ELL, got closed on. Except for "duplicate of ...", most, if not all, of the questions voted to close on these reasons are salvageable, in my humb...

discussion

Now I wanna proofread it for ya.

Damkerng T.

Be my guess! (And thanks in advance.)

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

> . . .got closed on.

?

It's kinda weird.

You could have said:

> Got a close vote on them.

Or

> get closed.

Hellloooo? @Dam king!

Damkerng T.

15:29

"... get closed on" may work.

"... get closed on them" has one too many pronoun.

"... get closed" misses a pronoun or a part that relates this clause back to "the reasons".

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Hmm, "get closed on" is the way to go then.

"Got" can't refer to habits.

But ELL has a habit of closing stuff.

Heck, I reviewed 10 CV's yesterday!!! I have never one that on chem.SE.

Speaking of reviewing, let me get back to. ..

Damkerng T.

nods -- I was thinking about what happened, I think.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Hehehehe!

I think it's because the thing doesn't have any punctuation marks at all.

Damkerng T.

Oh, I wonder how the spam detector works!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

It's highly based on Markov chain detection I think.

Like for example, no punctuation mark chars in n chars or something like that.

Catija

15:48

@JimReynolds :D Don't worry about it. I fell asleep. It was 3 am

jimsug

@Catija yeah, sorry for the misunderstanding.

I think I read it that way because you gave an example, then said what you said ;P

Catija

Don't worry about it. You were making good points. My answer is a bit disjointed, I think, because Nima kept asking new questions, so I rewrote it a couple of times.

jimsug

Yeah, I don't think this is the first time I've had that thought about Nima. I think she(?) is known for this.

It's a bit like meatie :P

Catija

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M "flamed her back" implied that I was flaming first. :P

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@Catija No, I meant [someone] [flamed her] [back on ELL].

Catija

15:55

@StackExchange This is a good idea. We could add a close reason that says "please review this meta post and update your question accordingly".

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Ah, I see.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@Catija Ping @Dam king!

Damkerng T.

I got pinged!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

You mean summoned.

Damkerng T.

I guess they're supposed to mean about the same here.

jimsug

@Catija Those are what the custom off-topic reasons are.

All of those reasons link to meta posts:

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

15:58

@jimsug Nah, a link would never hurt.

jimsug

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Q: Alternative websites for proofreading

What websites are there where people can practice writing English, and have what they've written corrected by native speakers? (It'll be useful to point people to this question if they've asked a "question" that's purely "please proofread this text")

discussion faq online-resources

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Q: Policy for questions that are entirely answerable with a dictionary

I've asked this question to garner consensus about what we should do with questions that are completely answered by a dictionary definition. This question, for example. If a question requires a dictionary definition as a supplement, that's something else entirely. But if the entirety of a quest...

discussion off-topic

55

Q: Please, everyone... details. Please

I've seen a lot of questions crop up recently, where individuals are giving a very brief snippet of English, and asking something like: Is this correct? What does this mean? What is the difference between X & Y? Is there a better way to say this? Such questions are fine, of course (except...

discussion faq

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

You're fast!

jimsug

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M These are the meta posts that those close reasons link to.

But you can only have three per SE site

Damkerng T.

IMHO, the first one is for chasing people away from the site.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I know, but an additional link is fun.

Clickable thingies are always fun. Click click click

Catija

15:59

@jimsug Right... but we can add a fourth one that applies to "please improve your question". For example, with the TOEFL question, we could include an example about separating unrelated question into different questions and, for each question saying which you think is the correct answer and which you think are wrong but what the actual answer is.

Damkerng T.

The second one is similar, because we basically tell them to use dictionaries instead of our site, which is fair, I think.

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