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12:00
@Lamart i see
in English Language Learners, Apr 16 at 17:05, by Shog9
@MARamezani the hell?
@agent5566 Read it all up!
12:15
Oh, that brings back some bad memories.
@agent5566 There was a lot of drama.
@DamkerngT. I'm indifferent now.
Me too. I also ignore some users everywhere, just to be on the safe side.
But let's move on.
Oh man!
This is big: I wrote an answer in chem.SE!
Eh? I think it's your regular activity.
Well I regularly don't answer.
I edit, chat, comment in meta, answer in meta, etc etc.
But no answering in the main site.
Neither on ELL.
Why do you think my rep is usually constant?
12:20
Hmm... it's sort of climbing slowly, I think.
Perhaps like mine. :D
I could make that climb fast.
But nah...Or meh.
nods
I think we all can.
[the emoticon for bragging]
I mean, points mostly reflect participation.
Participation in answering slash asking
12:23
A user with some 50k rep points can know much much less than someone with 1 rep point. :D
I am participating in chem.SE, but I do the janitors' jobs.
I mostly spend my time reading on ELL, so...
You do the janitors' jobs too?
I don't know if reading is even qualified.
This construction is grammatical and not especially unusual. I think the other commenters are unknowingly responding to the fact that it sounds a little awkward in this particular sentence, where there are more-graceful alternatives. Here's an example from real life. — Ben Kovitz 10 hours ago
This is interesting!
@DamkerngT. I am sorry but that was the only way of showing my complete history and the whole drama for which @agent5566 so eagerly waited for.
12:26
> We feel it inappropriate to ...
@Lamart I understand that. Don't worry. No need to apologize.
Damn this! Why am I getting authentication error thingies?
@M.A.Ramezani Where?
@Lamart I think you're a native English speaker. Why not come in and help stuff in ELL?
@Lamart Clicking the link in Ben's comment.
@Dam do you think the sites think I'm a bot?
I have no idea.
I guess it must've been either your browser or your ISP.
No idea is a good thing to have.
12:29
:D
Anyway, @M.A.Ramezani, it's nothing much. It's just an example showing that "We feel it (adj.) ..." does exist.
Hmm?
Like
> We feel it cold.
?
Yes. Something like that.
But the real sentence is We feel it inappropriate to ...
The OP wondered whether He feels it embarrassing is a valid sentence.
It's very weird.
Ben says it isn't, then he says it is.
BTW I miss him.
12:33
Maybe it's like I like it like that.
(or I like it hot)
I presented a lecture about Iran's weather and he was the audience.
Though like and feel are not really the same kind of verb.
Oh, really? Cool!
Just like I babbled about history with ya.
@DamkerngT. That paper's quite interesting, thanks! But I'm a bit surprised that the was able to present the first points as research though. For many linguists of English, that's the standard view! And I know language teachers who've been saying that for yonks and yonks too!
@Araucaria I'll pass your thanks to @snailboat. :-)
12:36
@DamkerngT. Thanks :)
My pleasure!
@Araucaria Oh hullo!
@DamkerngT. I think He feels it embarrassing is ok as long as there's an "extraposed subject" in the sentence :)
@Arau your choice of words is unique in itself.
@M.A.Ramezani Hi old bean. I'll take that as a complement ;)
12:37
Oh, hmm... I think I don't know "extraposed subject" that well.
@Araucaria It's OK, but why don't we just use a subordinate clause and get over it?
This is funny (=strange) since no one calls a 16-yo old unless they've seen me. I mean the 16-yo. Whatever.
@M.A.Ramezani Miss Ben?
Don't worry about "extraposed subject". I can try to read about it in my spare time.
Ben Kovitz.
12:41
@DamkerngT. Erm, the story goes something like this: we don't like to use long infinitive clauses as subjects, or as objects described by PCs. [Actually I should have said extraposed "object" in OP's case] They can be difficult to process. So we stick in a dummy NP, it in the place of that infinitive clase. We then put an infinitive at the end of the verb phrase instead.
@M.A.Ramezani Isnt he active anymore?
@Dam
@Lamart He is. But not in chat.
He used to come to chat.
Okay, thanks. A quickie. Is this okay: He depends on his parents financially and feels it embarrassing. Does it have an extraposed subject too?
@M.A.Ramezani Oh. Okay
@DamkerngT. Whats up with this Puzzle of the Day?
(Because I think if it's okay. He feels it embarrassing, as a standalone sentence should be okay too, given that it refers back to some sentence before it.)
@Lamart It's just a puzzle. You can try it and we can discuss it together. :-)
12:44
@DamkerngT. You send one every single day?
It's more like one or two a week. :-)
@DamkerngT. So "He finds it difficult to juggle penguins" means the same as "He finds to juggle penguins difficult" and "It's dangerous to kiss lions on th lips" means the same as "To kisslions on the lips is dangerous". The versions with "it" in are using this as a dummy subject or object and putting the displaced intinitive at the end ...
The patter It's dangerous to kiss lions on the lips is quite common, even in formal writing.
But what about He feels it difficult to juggle penguins?
@DamkerngT. I am clueless
@Lamart About what he's going to touch?
12:47
@DamkerngT. Well, it could be thought of as having an ellipted extraposed object, but for some reason that won't work here. I don't know exactly why.
@DamkerngT. I think it's probably marginal even with an extraposed object ....
@Araucaria Perhaps it's like one of my mantras: Not all verbs are equal.
@DamkerngT. Yes. Something Ba... and then a squashing sound.
@DamkerngT. Yes, quite!
@Lamart Aww...
Is the puzzle obvious to you? @Araucaria :-)
Bark?
12:51
It's ended with the /t/.
@DamkerngT. I can't find the puzzle!
Hey, ELL cabin!
Ah!
It's here:
Jun 1 at 10:35, by Damkerng T.
Puzzle of the Day 20150601 (What is he going to go touch?): https://www.dropbox.com/s/bbq04ni4cqpvkgf/20150601%20Puzzle%20of%20the%20Day.mp3‌​?dl=0
In my Dropbox.
Hello, @Unihedron! Welcome to the room!
@Unihedron Hey! Did you come here following me?
@Lamart No, not really.
@DamkerngT. Hello, hello! It's my second visit, actually.
12:53
Oh! I must've been half-asleep the last time. :D
@Unihedron Thats sad
@Unihedron Hullo!
@Lamart Well, at least you had a spark of hope for being important, you may choose to believe I'm lying if you so desire if that makes you happier, I don't know.
@M.A.Ramezani Hiya!
@Uni What's with the new trend in meta? Everyone's thinking about tagging betas something else.
Then tagging graduated ones something else.
The taggification machine has just begun working.
@M.A.Ramezani I share your sentiments.
12:56
@Unihedron No no....I was just wondering if I could draw people to ELL like how @M.A.Ramezani does :)
@Lamart Draws sword.
@M.A.Ramezani Loads rifle
Looks nice doesn't it?
Makes me think of Games of Throne.
Game of Thrones?
13:00
Oh, it shows that I'm not a real fan of the show!
Not a fan.
I'm a cyclohexane.
Oh, poll: What's the best Q/A you contributed to the whole of SO/SE in your opinion?
@Unihedron We have a John Snow in chemistry, and he's a nice guy.
@M.A.Ramezani that would be my only self-asked-self-answered post
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Q: What do the constructs \H, \V and \N mean?

UnihedronThe following constructs are not well documented, but they do work as of specific versions of PHP onwards; Which are these versions, what are these constructs and which other implementations support this? \H \V \N This thread is part of The Stack Overflow Regex Reference.

Ahan.
What about you @Dam?
For me, the best answer is
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A: Alkane, Alkene, Alkyne boiling point

M.A.RamezaniDisclaimer: All of this "jazz" will be about reaching a mere rule-of-thumb. You can't just compare whole families of organic compounds with each other. There are more factors to consider than below, mostly based on isomerism notions. However, as most of the A grade exams emphasize on the lighter ...

Really comprehensive.
And this is my best question. It didn't get much upvotes, but it was the hardest to answer thing I asked:
5
Q: Why is the electronegativity of hydrogen 2.20?

M.A.RamezaniWell, I was doing research about the ways we can measure electronegativity and I just realized there must be an arbitrary electronegativity set for an specific element to give us the relative amounts of the other ones. Pauling used hydrogen and suggested 2.1 for its electronegativity which later ...

Both in chemistry.
I think I haven't written anything that shiny on ELL yet.
13:17
Best?
In your opinion.
Hmm... I don't know. I don't keep track of it.
It could be the most upvoted, most memorable, the hardest, whatever.
@DamkerngT. C'mon!
Wait, does Meta count?
@Unihedron Hmm...Yep.
13:18
@Unihedron Should be. :-)
42
Q: One-box repositories, issue tickets and such on GitHub in the chat

UnihedronGitHub links are posted in chat quite frequently, but the support of the appearance is somewhat poor: <html><head><link rel="stylesheet" href="http://cdn-chat.sstatic.net/chat/css/chat.stackoverflow.com.css"></head><body><div id="transcript"><div class="monologue user-2246344"><div class="si...

^ Then here's my best question :)
I kinda like this one:
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A: How to cope with complaints from tutors who want to fight cheaters?

UnihedronDo not deal with claims to remove copyrighted content by yourself. The author of the copyrighted content should file a DMCA takedown notice following section 15 of the Stack Exchange Terms of Service in order for it to be removed from the revision history as well. Reporting Copyright Infringe...

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Q: How to parse these crazy sentences

Damkerng T.I have enough Unicoins to buy "Guaranteed answer" today. So, instead of asking how to parse only one sentence as I should, I will ask "how to parse these following seven sentences". (Why ask one if I can ask seven! grin) One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got into my paj...

^ and here's my best answer
well, nice clash
13:19
@Unihedron Neat!
@DamkerngT. Aha.
@Unihedron How to parse these crazy sentences? :}
@Unihedron Woof. Seems so cool!
@Unihedron Is it a fox in the gif on your profile?
@DamkerngT. it's a red fox
they also only catch the mouse if they're jumping towards north
Anonymous
@Araucaria He wrote:
Anonymous
> It is very easy to show that syntactically [these examples of be] are auxiliaries. In fact this has often been noted or assumed in the literature, without much ado (see, e.g., Huddleston & Pullum, 2002, p. 114 [...]), so I am not claiming to have discovered anything 'new' about English grammar in this section. Rather I would like to simply put all the facts before the readers of this journal in a clear fashion, and explore how they potentially affect the teaching and learning of English.
13:22
The fox looks funny, and cute. :-)
@Unihedron Oh, are they white mice? :D
@DamkerngT. they're the arctic mice
Anonymous
@Araucaria So that's not presented as research
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. It's better with finds than feels
I remember that there is a specific name for this kind of work.
@snailboat Indeed. But He feels it embarrassing is sort of passable, imo.
13:27
What in the world in arctic mice?!
^ that critter in his mouth
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. I'm not really sure that works
Anonymous
But you might be interested in examples like:
Anonymous
> Why did you feel it necessary to write another book?
13:28
@Unihedron Oh, so arctic mice is an image. :}
Anonymous
> As staff director of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, I feel it important to clarify to readers that Thernstrom was speaking in her own personal capacity and not articulating the official view of the commission.
Way to go, Macmillan!
@snailboat Hmm... it sounds like an it-cleft.
Anonymous
> We feel it imperative that the Legislature earmark the vast majority of this money, which totals $9.1 billion over the next 25 years, to programs that educate the public on the devastating effects of tobacco use, anti-smoking marketing campaigns, smoking prevention and educational activities targeted at youths, smoking cessation programs for youths and adults, tougher enforcement laws preventing merchants from selling to minors... anything that does not misuse the funds.
@DamkerngT. The first time I saw critter I thought the author meant it to be a lump of wood.
Anonymous
To be honest, I'm not fond of the last two examples either
Anonymous
13:30
These are all from COCA
@M.A.Ramezani You should've looked it up in Macmillan. :P
I've seen chemists use this structure very much.
Anonymous
I think this use of feel generally appears with adjectives that represent a personal judgment about something
Specially on their blogs.
@snailboat What do you think about the OP's sentence? (1-7)
Anonymous
13:31
Can you link me to the question?
> He depends on his parents financially and feels it embarrassing.
Anonymous
Seems pretty weird.
@DamkerngT. OK now after thinking about it I think it doesn't work.
@snailboat Great minds think alike.
Anonymous
"feels that it's embarrassing" or "finds it embarrassing" would work
I think I'll give it a 4.
Anonymous
13:33
4 out of what?
@DamkerngT. Out of 100?
On the scale of 1-7.
Anonymous
Yay, my favorite scale!
How did you come up with that scale?
Cats?
Anonymous
13:33
It has all the best numbers.
Specially 5.
@M.A.Ramezani I got it from snailboat. :D
Anonymous
More seriously, you want to use an odd number so you can pick something in the middle. 1-5 or 1-7 are good
Anonymous
I like 1-7 because you can distinguish between 2 and 3 and between 5 and 6
@snailboat 3 in the middle is weird.
I hated 1 to 10.
I still hate it.
Anonymous
13:35
But 1-9 is too much.
helloo
You can never come up with the correct number.
Hello!
@fahdijbeli Hullo!
Anonymous
You'd want to do 0-10.
13:35
@Unihedron lol you are here :p
@snailboat Worse.
@fahdijbeli I'm not sure if I know you, but hi.
I gave 6, then said it's too much, gave 5, said it's not enough, gave 6, said it's not enough and so on.
In the end, I never end up pleased with my scoring.
Anonymous
I think 1-7 is the best scale.
@Unihedron you are Java ?
Anonymous
13:36
Besides, admit it, 7 is a great numeral.
It's good, but weird.
@M.A.Ramezani In logarithmetic scales, the center of 1-10 are 3.
@fahdijbeli No he's a fox.
@snailboat It's magnificent!
@Unihedron Meh. I'm not a mathematician.
@DamkerngT. 7 is a sacred number.
I'm thinking of putting up a MARithmetic scale.
13:38
@Unihedron I see you always in java room aren't you ?
Anonymous
@M.A.Ramezani If you were, I wonder if you'd take issue with "3" rather than "about 3" :-)
@snailboat 2.64 is bad in itself. It's $\sqrt{7}$.
Good times, but I'm heading back to my headquarters, seeya ELL!
See you around!
13:44
@Unihedron CYA!
I agree with the video:
> Our minds work with proportions...
Anonymous
Farewell, Unihedron!
Anonymous
I'm having trouble loading the main site
It's okay on my end.
Unihedron, Earth, Alpha Centauri
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I get confused about these two person
that's why I told to him are Java
:p
13:51
I think it's the same Unihedron. :-)
hehe yes mee too
@snailboat I can review. That's why it's out.
I think this should be closed:
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Q: What is the word used for "Make best use of"?

user3340627For example if i'm designing a parking space, I want to find the most appropriate design that will let the maximum number of cars park with minimum space lost, so I need a design that will help me make best use of the space. I'm pretty sure that is another word that better describes these express...

You?
If this question is close-voted, why the h3ll do we have the word request tag? There are 100s of similar questions on SE: ELU (English Language & Usage). — pazzo 2 hours ago
I think his point is valid.
Though I wish the answer would've been a bit longer.
Yes...I left it open.
^A simple 'were' would sound more idiomatic...
13:57
Agree.
But unless I'm nitpicking, I wouldn't consider the original version to be off the road.
Anonymous
14:12
I like it either way
Anonymous
But I think my opinion on woulds has been called into question ;-)
Anonymous
I think the were version sounds slightly more formal, that's all
Good evening/morning everyone :-)
Anonymous
14:43
Morning, @Man_From_India! :-)
Anonymous
@fahdijbeli Is your article done already?
@snailboat yes but it's still pending, just to be confirmed by my reviewr
and afer that I will share it
Anonymous
Congrats! :-)
thanks ^^
but is hard if you are working and studying in the same time -_-
@snailboat Ah, gave it more of a break-time skim than a thorough reading. Yes, you're quite right of course ...
15:05
0
Q: state -- when is it a countable noun and when not?

Cookie MonsterExample with a context (Wikipedia article): A stack may be implemented to have a bounded capacity. If the stack is full and does not contain enough space to accept an entity to be pushed, the stack is then considered to be in an overflow state. The pop operation removes an item from the top o...

Uh-oh! A Wikipedia page could use an edit, I guess. (haven't read it)
hi
i have some question related with stackoverflow
but it seems OOT
hello there
What kind of question is it?
i tried to post this question "Is there any free database in internet of popular tour spot in the world like eiffel tower, great wall of china for free? " but stackoverflow said it doesnt meet quality standard
is there my grammar wrong?
sorry i am not native english my grammer is so mess
15:08
Me neither.
oh haha, same
Your sentence could use an edit, though.
what it supposed to be?
i think the sentence is right .
@M.A.Ramezani The middle of 1-7 is 4 not three!
First, what do you mean by "database in internet of popular tour spot"?
Spot should be in plural.
And you could use some more articles.
15:09
oh, so it must be popular tour spots?
You didn't think of only one single spot, I believe.
yes
database is set of data
so yes
Also, I think the more appropriate term is probably tourist attractions.
> Is there any free database on the web for famous tourist attractions (tourist spots) around the world (like the Eiffel Tower, the Great Wall of China, etc.)?
I may phrase it like that.
15:13
WOW
why god why
you do it right
0
Q: Tour spots database on internet?

user965347Is there any free database on the web for famous tourist attractions (tourist spots) around the world (like the Eiffel Tower, or the Great Wall of China)?

yeah yeah
thanks anyway
This kind of database is probably called "tourism database".
You're welcome!
where was u born ? u said u r not native english right?
but ur name is looks like west enough
I'm not a native speaker. I'm a Bangkokian. (Bangkok, Thailand)
oh.
i am indonesian
LOL -- I guess my name is sort of Thai-ish. :-)
Hello, neighbor!
15:16
lol yeah
yeah :D
thanks once again, i gonna back to work
Okay. See you around!
15:32
0
A: what is the difference between nude/naked?

JayI think it was Robert Heinlein who said, "Nude is sexy. Naked is defenseless." This is one of those cases where dictionary definitions of the two words might well be the same, but there are subtle differences in shades of meaning. As others have noted, we generally use "nude" to refer to art. I...

> I think it was Robert Heinlein who said, "Nude is sexy. Naked is defenseless."
My version:
> Nude is art, naked is pure.
15:54
@user965347 are you french ?
@user965347 you have a down vote lol
you should delete or improuve your post at least you will have enough reputation left
otherwise you loose them :/
@user965347 I think facebook it has something like recommandation algorithme for"tourist attractions (tourist spots)"
something like this
16:17
@Araucaria Pffft. Details.
16:33
@DamkerngT. Hmm...Let me think... Damkerng reminds me of cowboy movies too.
Hah! Cowboy movies!?
I wonder what those movies are...
I bet that's why @user thought you were western.
That made me curious, too. :-)
I'd never thought that my name is English sounding or something.
Hehe!
Anonymous
16:59
It sounds more Thai than English to me
Anonymous
But I've never had a really good grasp of what Thai names sound like, to be honest
Well it doesn't seem English to me, but if someone had asked me what I think about @Damkerng before meeting the robot, I would've said no idea.
I consider only the English names in English books to be English.
But I knew what @user965347 was thinking about.
It could look a bit German like, perhaps, considering that danke is a German word. :-)
Whoops! By @user up there I have pinged two people actually.
@DamkerngT. Hmm...Yeah.
tchrist also tried to read my name and he came up with something sounds like "dam-king". :P
17:03
It also could sound Dutch.
@DamkerngT. That's where BrE pronunciation gets ya!
Hehe! But he is American!
Anyway, my experience suggests that I shouldn't expect anyone non-Thai to read my name right the first time. :P
Frankly I won't recognize any names from Sri Lanka to Taiwan.
I'd either say they're Chinese, or I'll check "none of the above".
1
A: Usage of 'Recommend'

KhanThe above sentence in the pattern "subject + object + to-infinitive" is correct in addition to these constructions: "subject + present participle (-ing form)" and "subject + object + (that) + bare infinitive". We recommend you to book your flight early. We recommend booking your flight early. W...

Oops! I think I fixed it the wrong way.
All the patterns miss the verb recommend!
0
Q: How does using "not" differs from using a negative word?

XPMaiAs an example It's unwise to vote down this question. It's not wise to vote down this question I know semantically, they're the same. However, I want to know technically, how do they differ?

That's interesting!
@DamkerngT. Yeah!
I think I can't think of anything now.
Anonymous
17:42
There are plenty of differences
Anonymous
> It was not natural at all.
> It wasn't natural at all.
> *It was unnatural at all.
I like how that guy's being a bit of a dick. Makes it easy for me to ignore his question.
Oh, hi all. :)
I'm now going to the trip. See ya Cabin!
Going to the trip? What does that mean?
@Catija The journey of life...
Seriously though, I'm voluntarily leaving now before my dad gets angry. We're going on a vacation, so buy guys.
17:49
@M.A.Ramezani Hmmm... that's not one I've heard before. Oooh, have fun!
@Catija I wrote it ungrammatically deliberately.
Yeah... sure you did. :P

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