ELL's Cabin

Damkerng T.

03:02

I wonder if @pazzo will drop in soon. I'm curious to know how pazzo thinks about the answers in the bounty question.

Damkerng T.

03:24

Hello @Delfino!

Delfino

Hello @DamkerngT.

How are you?

Damkerng T.

Good. Thanks. How are you?

Delfino

I fine, but tired, I'll be just a little.

Damkerng T.

Aww

A weird looking set of stats:

month   week    day
48      81      7

Damkerng T.

05:41

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Q: Are these sentences simple or complex?

They are not ever jealous for the cause, but jealous for they’re jealous. It is a monster begot upon itself, born on itself. In this example, are both of the sentences simple sentences? The first I think is compound. I'm not sure about the second one. Can anyone clarify for me?

This question actually makes me think...

Should we say it's a compound sentence? or should we say that it's a simple sentence with a compound verb phrase (or predicate)?

It's raining outside...

♫〜 It's raining rain. Hallelujah. It's raining rain. Amen. ♪♫♪

(I hacked a song!)

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Q: Sentence understanding

In Today's newspaper, I have read a sentence given below. Can anyone please tell me, what is meaning of It is learnt that clause in the sentence or what that has been used/added in the sentence as i believe without clause it makes sense. It is learnt that Mr. Prakash flagged the issue of autono...

sentence-meaning

Oh, It is learnt that ... Hmm...

Is it still in use? Is it only in India? Is it archaic?

Damkerng T.

06:23

> "[T]here is broad agreement that some sort of 'give-before-new' principle applies to English word ordering within the sentence. This idea was formulated by [Michael] Halliday (1967) as what we can term Given-New Principle. . .
http://grammar.about.com/od/fh/g/Given-Before-New-Principle.htm

A-ha! It's Halliday's idea!

Fantasier

06:34

> Your first sentence is complex. But is a subordinating conjunction. The first clause is your main clause and what follows the but is your subclause.

Wut ^

Damkerng T.

Indeed!

It should be answered by someone who has language structure as one of their strong suits. :P

Me? I'm still not even sure if the second sentence is simple or compound.

(or even complex or compound-complex!)

Fantasier

I don't like the single-compound-complex distinction. It's sorta pointless really.

Damkerng T.

nods -- Indeed.

Damkerng T.

07:16

PerfectGundam, Seoul, South Korea

111 4

present-perfect questions tense usage difference grammar literature

Today I learned, the perfect Gundam is a unicorn!

Oh, wait... it's a horse, not a unicorn!

Ahh... I just saw this:

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Q: Graduation, site closure, and a clearer outlook on the health of SE sites

Back in April of 2010, Joel shared our assumptions about the role of small sites in the newly minted Stack Exchange network: If a site does not have enough activity at the end of 90 days, it will be closed down. Any existing Q&A will be archived and made available for download, but the site...

discussion featured beta-phase beta-sites graduating-sites

Still haven't read it, but this caught my eyes:

> Success and graduation are not the same thing

I guess ELL's got the first; as for the latter, I think we're not ready yet.

Freddy

hola

Damkerng T.

Hallo!

Freddy

@dam Gundam is not a horse

it's a bot

Gundam

Gundam (Japanese: ガンダム, Hepburn: Gandamu), also referred to as the Gundam Series (ガンダムシリーズ, Gandamu Shirīzu) is a science fiction media franchise created by Sunrise that feature giant robots (or "mecha") called "mobile suits", with titular mobile suits that carry the name "Gundam." The franchise started on April 7, 1979, as an anime TV series called Mobile Suit Gundam, which was revolutionary in that it defined the real robot genre of anime by featuring giant robots in a militaristic war setting. The popularity of the first TV series and the merchandising that followed spawned a franchise that...

well not as intelligent as @dam

Damkerng T.

Yes, but... but... but... that avatar...

@Freddy It looks neat, though. :D

Freddy

07:35

@dam What does "Damkerng" means?

Damkerng T.

It has several meanings, along the lines of civilized, noble, flourishing.

Freddy

meaningorigin.com/d/name/damkerng-pathomvanich

Check out letter meaning

Damkerng T.

Interesting. :D

Hey, could there be a person name with all the letters in it?!

Freddy

let us ask google!

I don't think google is that intelligent

Damkerng T.

:-)

Freddy

07:45

But there is something more interesting "Damker" is surname!

Damkerng T.

Oh!

Freddy

Yes I got it

6letterwords.org/damkerng

There are no name with same letter

And furthermore only 2 words can be formed

Google is intelligent!

Damkerng T.

:D

Freddy

Well lunch time, need to go. BYE

Damkerng T.

Bye!

agent5566

08:13

hi everyone

stupid time zones :(

Damkerng T.

09:07

-3

Q: GRE - reading comprehension questions. I am having trouble understanding the correct answer to the question

" While the best sixteenth-century Renaissance scholars mastered the classics of ancient Roman literature in the original Latin and understood them in their original historical context, most of the scholars’ educated contemporaries knew the classics only from school lessons on selected Latin text...

meaning-in-context gre reason-why comprehension

It could as well be on ELL.

Damkerng T.

09:48

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Q: The present perfect in a past context in an ESL textbook

I know it is similar to Present perfect in a past-tense context. However, I feel my question is valid because it is about grammatical correctness, not a literary choice or twist. A: I have visited Thailand this vacation. B: How did you get there ? A: I took a flight. It took about 14 h...

grammar tense past-tense present-perfect literature

I'm a bit curious about the phrase "this vacation". Seeing the word "vacation" being used like this makes me thing that it must be in AmE, not BrE.

Also, why is it "this", not "last"?

Oh, the OP could just mean the time between two semesters.

Damkerng T.

10:36

Who gave the down vote before I neutralized it back to zero? And, why was the down vote not accompanied with a comment to explain the reason? That is not how we welcome new members to the ELL Exchange. The OP posed a perfectly valid question which elicited a reasonably quality answer. — JimM 19 hours ago

Something I saw while cleaning up my tabs.

M.A.Ramezani

10:47

Hullo cabin today!

Damkerng T.

Hello!

The other thing is to state that one does not say "It took him a year to go back", unless he took a rather leisurely globe-trotting route. However, "a year to get back" works. — Brian Hitchcock 2 days ago

Hmm... I think I don't get that.

M.A.Ramezani

@DamkerngT. Whoa!

But that could also mean the user posting that comment was also a target of random fuzzy downvotes.

Damkerng T.

I didn't downvote it, but I think the example sentence is questionable.

@StoneyB If only StoneyB would answer even more questions! If only it would stop raining. If only it would .... ! Isn't it more the case that we just don't use would with the first person in this type of construction? What d'you think? — Araucaria 6 mins ago

@Araucaria But what if the OP meant: even if it were 10 years ago, I would have thought the way I {(would) do | did} today.

M.A.Ramezani

I + would seems, well, peculiar to me, if not ungrammatical.

Damkerng T.

> If I had been as young as myself 20 years ago, I would have ...

:D

M.A.Ramezani

10:54

No no, akh!

I meant "If only I would...".

Damkerng T.

Well, how old am I supposed to be again? :P

M.A.Ramezani

Only Allah knows.

Damkerng T.

I can't remember it now; it's (I'm?) too old. :-)

Maybe I should try to use semicolons more.

M.A.Ramezani

;

Damkerng T.

;-)

M.A.Ramezani

10:56

I put it there so that you can copy it.

It's a hard character to type for robots.

Damkerng T.

Could be. Somehow . and , appear to be much friendlier.

M.A.Ramezani

Mainly because only the best of robots can wink.

Damkerng T.

;-)

M.A.Ramezani

Nice try, but you aren't one of the bests.

Damkerng T.

@M.A.Ramezani If only I would be willing to ... just crossed my mind.

checking the corpora...

Oh, 2 pages on the web.

2 hits on Google Books!

M.A.Ramezani

11:00

You are categorized as something else.

Damkerng T.

@M.A.Ramezani A hybrid?

> And he appeared to think his demand of sufficient importance to attract the attention of the Universal Consciousness and obtain the desired recognition, if only I would be willing to devote ten cents' worth of time to discussing the matter with the ...

> All Power is Given Unto You - Page 113

M.A.Ramezani

@DamkerngT. I think one is a typo and the other one is the FLAWLESS book.

@DamkerngT. I didn't say you're a frog!

BTW you were there when the meme FLAWLESS was created, weren't you?

Damkerng T.

If I were there, I must've forgotten it.

M.A.Ramezani

Oh then...We were talking about the English crap I study at school the other day.

Then Catija said:

Damkerng T.

Oh, you meant in our chat room. Then I can remember it.

(I thought you were talking about when the book was named Flawless.)

M.A.Ramezani

11:05

2 days ago, by Catija

Hey, at least you're not using this book: https://books.google.com/books?id=Ua2DibXhY1AC&pg=PA76&lpg=PA76&dq=how%20to%20le‌arn%20flawless%20eng%20hundred%20years%20make%20a%20century&source=bl&ots=oYmKXPD‌t-1&sig=L_tzxsc4w5GMSmhBd10iNgbBK94&hl=en&sa=X&ei=flVoVcLZBKau7gbV94LgBA&ved=0CCA‌Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=how%20to%20learn%20flawless%20eng%20hundred%20years%20make%20‌a%20century&f=false

Damkerng T.

Yes.

An interesting book, though.

M.A.Ramezani

Good as a bedtime story.

But how dare we mock the almighty FLAWLESS?

Damkerng T.

Who wrote it? What is it for? Whom is it for? How many people use it?

M.A.Ramezani

Raises hands Don't shoot, detective! He went that way.

Damkerng T.

Oh, the example (70) in the Flawless book is interesting...

> There is misery in the life of all men. (Incorrect)
There is misery in the lives of all men. (Correct)

M.A.Ramezani

11:10

Seriously? Who will end up attributing one life to all men?!

Damkerng T.

(72) is even weirder, imo.

M.A.Ramezani

Bring it!

Damkerng T.

> I called on this house. (Incorrect)

> I called at this house. (Correct)

M.A.Ramezani

What's this house supposed to be?

Where the call has taken place?

The place that the call is being "sent" to?

Damkerng T.

I think it's a rather unfortunate example sentence.

Too many readings available.

M.A.Ramezani

11:22

I'm kinda out for lunch.

Cya!

Damkerng T.

See you!

Damkerng T.

11:51

Hi @Damkerng, actually it's okay to put the comma after the word "and", because that turns the phrase "as a result" into the subordinate clause and "this is done by using a database of patients and the factors which have any significance are obtained" into the main clause. You can inject a subordinate clause into the middle of a main clause according to: goffs.herts.sch.uk/documents/literacy/literacy_skillswise/… — Mark 12 mins ago

Hmm... that's interesting.

checking out the PDF...

M.A.Ramezani

Why is he saying hullo to you?

@DamkerngT. It surprises me that you didn't take this into consideration.

Damkerng T.

@M.A.Ramezani Hmm... I don't think he was saying hullo (or hello), just a normal correction, which is potentially an "uncorrection" imho.

@M.A.Ramezani What is this this again?

It's rather unclear.

(Sorry)

M.A.Ramezani

Yummy radishes...Oh, where was I?

Damkerng T.

What I'm thinking right now is how "as a result [clause]" can be a subordinate clause, so I'm gonna ask.

M.A.Ramezani

I heard they could be a clause.

But this sentence is different IMO.

Not having a comma before and seems way more crucial to pay attention to rather than having as a result in between commas.

Even so, (after the correction of yours) I think the as a result might be a clause.

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